La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 1509.

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Quote from: Hvdv on January 09, 2024, 12:20:24 PM

Of course, but Xavi is trying to shoulder the team in times of need. What they want to do is very challenging. They will not spend much money and will be successful. This seems unlikely. He promoted a few players from La Masia to the A team level, but it would not be right to expect the same great performance as in previous years.

Most of the blame will still be on xavi as it has to do with the teams performance and it's normal that whenever a team is declining in their performance the first point of call is the coach and it's very fine because he overseas every affair of the team especially on the pitch and the results they produce.

There are young players who are able to help the team get desired results as expected of them, this was seen in their las two games when firstly was the pattern of the game experienced after a few changes and in the most recent has to do with the performance of the team using the younger and good players all through so I will say so far it's more of a tactical problem and player's placement if xavi can further improve on these aspect he can make do with the squad he has got and possibly get amongst top four even if he's in able to win the lalig a this season but then by next season he will be properly positioned for winning trophies.

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Quote from: Warkop on January 09, 2024, 08:56:03 AM

In my opinion, Barcelona will definitely bring in new players in the transfer market this winter, but their spending on players is limited and they are looking for very affordable prices because Barcelona is experiencing a financial crisis which has a big impact on this. It is indeed very difficult for Barcelona to win the La Liga title this season, but if they can take advantage of this winter transfer moment to find players who really occupy the positions they need and change their playing strategy patterns and achieve victory in the next match. . I am sure that Barcelona will definitely be able to overtake this ranking position, although it is unlikely that they will be able to compete with Real Mandrid and Girona. Real Madrid can be certain to be champions, it is reported that they will bring in Kylian Mbappé in the winter transfer market this time, this will make Real Madrid's attack line even more capable of putting pressure on their opponents. If only Girona could bring in new, more qualified players to sharpen their attacking power. That way, Girona will be better prepared to face Real Madrid later to win the Laliga title this season.

At the moment I still haven't found information about Barcelona because it must be difficult to determine Barcelona current space give the financial limitations they are currently facing even now some of their players are being targeted by several big clubs such as Araujo whom Bayern targets to strengthen their squad.

It is currently difficult for Xavi to make a breakthrough because on the one hand he is required to make Barcelona performance better. Still on the other hand Barcelona financial limitations make Xavi unable to further explore the depth of the squad he has.
So that with Barcelona performance which tends to decline in goal productivity, Xavi cannot do much because of the limitations they have even if they are looking for players in the end it will only be the same scheme as players whose contracts will expire or be loaned out.

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Quote from: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on January 09, 2024, 03:38:41 AM

Barcelona is starting to experience setbacks this season and is slowly unable to compete with the three leaders of La Liga this season. The defeat against Girona was quite a blow because in the previous season Girona was not a tough opponent for Barcelona. This season Girona became the best team not because they were able to beat Barcelona but because they managed to become a strong challenger to Real Madrid at the top of the standings and at the same time became a title challenger who was still quite the favourite.

Xavi Hernandez could not run a good situation for the team because of the limited number of players he needed and he always tried to include young players when a number of key players were injured. It looks like the unstable financial conditions will be much more difficult and Xavi Hernandez will be increasingly tested when playing matches in the Champions League.

I believe that a team doesn't get terrible over a single season, they were the title winners last season, they can't be all that bad in just a single year, they are still fine if you ask me. The thing that matters the most to me is the fact that they have come up with 4 amazing talented young players, you may think that doesn't mean much, but that is great for them for two main reasons.

First reason is that they have players in 4 positions that can play for over a decade, and still can be sold later on, think about it, playing someone for 10 years, and then still have value to sell them is great, doesn't mean they will be great for 10 years, but there is a possibility. Or, if they want to, they can sell right now and make even more money as well, fixing their transfer and financial issues.

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I agree with you, I don't see why Xavi is to be blamed for what Barcelona are going through right now. There is no way that they Barcelona will be winning the league every season. If they are not winning the games now, I think the team is just in a transition and will do better next season if they buy the right players. For me Xavi has done well as a coach.

The coach is fully responsible for the decline in the team's performance. Last season Barcelona performed extraordinary by winning the La Liga trophy, while this season Barcelona's performance has experienced a very significant decline compared to last season. The coach's dismissal occurred due to the team's increasingly poor performance. Tuchel has experienced the situation when Chelsea is unable to maintain its best performance. He is the one who is being blamed for the team's poor performance.
It's true, it's impossible for Barcelona to win trophies every season, at least he must be able to make Barcelona compete with Real Madrid in the title race.

For me, as long as Barcelona can still stay in the top four, of course it will still be a good result and not bad at all. I also don't expect Barcelona to always be a title candidate every season because maintaining consistency is certainly not as easy as imagine . But indeed, because Barcelona during Xavi coaching was only good in La Liga, and then if this season Barcelona fails in La Liga then of course that will be a bad result because Barcelona is also not very promising in getting good results in the Champions League.

Barcelona are not in good form this season. It will be very difficult for them to win the La Liga title. Because their performance is very erratic and at the same time Barcelona is behind Real Madrid by a big gap of 7 points. If the performance is not regular, it will not be possible to reduce this gap of 7 points.
Barcelona are still in financial trouble. So they are not able to strengthen their squad enough by buying players at high prices. Barcelona needs another experienced striker in the attack. Lewandowski's performances are now quite erratic. At the same time, Barcelona needs an experienced defender in the squad. If not, it will not be possible for Barcelona to maintain dominance in the Champions League and La Liga.

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I agree with you, I don't see why Xavi is to be blamed for what Barcelona are going through right now. There is no way that they Barcelona will be winning the league every season. If they are not winning the games now, I think the team is just in a transition and will do better next season if they buy the right players. For me Xavi has done well as a coach.

The coach is fully responsible for the decline in the team's performance. Last season Barcelona performed extraordinary by winning the La Liga trophy, while this season Barcelona's performance has experienced a very significant decline compared to last season. The coach's dismissal occurred due to the team's increasingly poor performance. Tuchel has experienced the situation when Chelsea is unable to maintain its best performance. He is the one who is being blamed for the team's poor performance.
It's true, it's impossible for Barcelona to win trophies every season, at least he must be able to make Barcelona compete with Real Madrid in the title race.

For me, as long as Barcelona can still stay in the top four, of course it will still be a good result and not bad at all. I also don't expect Barcelona to always be a title candidate every season because maintaining consistency is certainly not as easy as imagine . But indeed, because Barcelona during Xavi coaching was only good in La Liga, and then if this season Barcelona fails in La Liga then of course that will be a bad result because Barcelona is also not very promising in getting good results in the Champions League.

Of course, but Xavi is trying to shoulder the team in times of need. What they want to do is very challenging. They will not spend much money and will be successful. This seems unlikely. He promoted a few players from La Masia to the A team level, but it would not be right to expect the same great performance as in previous years.

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Quote from: zaim7413 on January 09, 2024, 09:36:57 AM

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Quote from: HajiBagi on January 09, 2024, 01:14:32 AM

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I agree with you, I don't see why Xavi is to be blamed for what Barcelona are going through right now. There is no way that they Barcelona will be winning the league every season. If they are not winning the games now, I think the team is just in a transition and will do better next season if they buy the right players. For me Xavi has done well as a coach.

The coach is fully responsible for the decline in the team's performance. Last season Barcelona performed extraordinary by winning the La Liga trophy, while this season Barcelona's performance has experienced a very significant decline compared to last season. The coach's dismissal occurred due to the team's increasingly poor performance. Tuchel has experienced the situation when Chelsea is unable to maintain its best performance. He is the one who is being blamed for the team's poor performance.
It's true, it's impossible for Barcelona to win trophies every season, at least he must be able to make Barcelona compete with Real Madrid in the title race.

For me, as long as Barcelona can still stay in the top four, of course it will still be a good result and not bad at all. I also don't expect Barcelona to always be a title candidate every season because maintaining consistency is certainly not as easy as imagine . But indeed, because Barcelona during Xavi coaching was only good in La Liga, and then if this season Barcelona fails in La Liga then of course that will be a bad result because Barcelona is also not very promising in getting good results in the Champions League.

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Quote from: KTChampions on January 09, 2024, 09:11:57 AM

Despite the title last year, Xavi had two years of failure in European competition, plus, taking into account their last game, Barcelona set a historical anti-record - 20 games without a win with a difference of more than one goal. This has never happened in history (and Barcelona has had very difficult times in different periods). Episodes like this look like systemic problems, right? Another question is how much of Xavi’s share of blame is here personally, but I think that there is definitely some - the club does not look like a club that achieves more than it deserves, rather the opposite.

Barcelona today is not the same Barcelona as its glory days, but what is unique is that Barcelona can still win titles even if they only get them in domestic competitions. Real Madrid barely won anything last season even though they had many experienced players and big stars in their squad, it was also much worse than Barcelona who were facing bad financial problems.
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Absolutely not. Real won the Copa del Rey + they reached the semi-finals of the Champions League. The mere fact that they reached the semi-finals of the Champions League outweighs all the achievements (Super Cup + La Liga) of Barcelona. Fair or not, from a business point of view, the Champions League is more important than the national championship because it gives more money. Moreover, the fact that Real lost the title last year was quite natural given the restructuring they made.

Considering that the young players who were reinforced this year will form Real Madrid's core squad a few years later, I think even the semi-finals are a great success. We have to be patient with Real Madrid for a year or two. With patience, there may be a Real Madrid that knows each other very well and whose reserves are even very high quality.

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Quote from: skarais on January 09, 2024, 11:29:15 AM

OK, Real Madrid might make more money than Barcelona just because Real Madrid made it to the semifinals of the Champions League, so what have they achieved? Expectations for Real Madrid are always high when it comes to winning titles, but they failed miserably last season if they didn't talk about business.

So far I am not one of those people who hate Real Madrid and any team for failing to win the title, but I have never regretted saying that Real Madrid was bad in domestic competition last season even when Barcelona had to face big problems. Barcelona was much better than Real Madrid last season, that is the fact.

When comparing the two clubs, Real Madrid has emerged as the clear winner; they will not accept anything less than the best outcomes. Carlo Ancelotti is present to make sure things go smoothly with his players. Real Madrid has accomplished everything in the span of decades, and they are largely gaining solid points on the table despite competing with Girona for first place. Since the beginning, Real Madrid and Barcelona have been the only clubs that have piqued the imagination of viewers, and they have been unstoppable in terms of competitive racing.

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Quote from: skarais on January 09, 2024, 11:29:15 AM

So far I am not one of those people who hate Real Madrid and any team for failing to win the title, but I have never regretted saying that Real Madrid was bad in domestic competition last season even when Barcelona had to face big problems. Barcelona was much better than Real Madrid last season, that is the fact.

I think we all know that it is not easy to rotate players and maintain the performance of Madrid's main squad last season where they played in the UCL and Laliga as well as other championships, of course Ancelotti had anticipated this, only they failed to be eliminated by Manchester City in the UCL so To catch up in the domestic league is a bit difficult because there is not enough time, but even so last season they were not said to be without a title because they won the title in the Copa Del Rey.

Even though it was a title they didn't really hope for apart from the UCL, I'm also not a Madrid fan but last season was a bad season for them but after this season they performed very well because they added some talented young players and this is the new era that Madrid wants by bringing in several young players like Bellingham and others, I think they have a chance to win the title this season, whether in Laliga or UCL. I think you also feel the difference now, right? Grin

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Absolutely not. Real won the Copa del Rey + they reached the semi-finals of the Champions League. The mere fact that they reached the semi-finals of the Champions League outweighs all the achievements (Super Cup + La Liga) of Barcelona. Fair or not, from a business point of view, the Champions League is more important than the national championship because it gives more money. Moreover, the fact that Real lost the title last year was quite natural given the restructuring they made.

OK, Real Madrid might make more money than Barcelona just because Real Madrid made it to the semifinals of the Champions League, so what have they achieved? Expectations for Real Madrid are always high when it comes to winning titles, but they failed miserably last season if they didn't talk about business.

So far I am not one of those people who hate Real Madrid and any team for failing to win the title, but I have never regretted saying that Real Madrid was bad in domestic competition last season even when Barcelona had to face big problems. Barcelona was much better than Real Madrid last season, that is the fact.

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Quote from: Doell on January 09, 2024, 09:48:14 AM

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Yeah in teams like Girona when youa re doing so good with this players in some cases is not so good to bting new players and disbalance the team, you only have to buy a player in a position where you know you only have 1 player for that position and in case of a injuty put the new one.

I think I understand what you say, indeed the performance of the Girona squad is already very good, and it is worried new player will not be able to adapt optimally.

There shall not need to bring the new player to the club. Michel can still perform better with available player as long as all of these players are still complete and none of them will decide to leave from the club to join in other club.
Im also still worrying about michel sanchez since girona's president stated that if other club could sign him as a new coach and it makes me think girona can end its way to climbing up once michel will be leaving from the club soon.

Quote from: Doell on January 09, 2024, 09:48:14 AM

If Girona want to buy new players, Girona should buy one or two to add depth their squad, because may will be help at least as a replacement if a core player is injured. Considering in the rest of this season situation might heat up, the Girona manager must be able to make very a good plans.

There will be no new players to be added into the club. Girona's players have been targeting by so many clubs otherwise. It will be absolutely ridiculous if girona's president will give him permission to leave from the club. Girona needs to keep him far longer in the club.
but yet again as long as girona will able to keep all of things to stay much longer in the club and i think that UCL will be possible for girona next season. It's very hard to maintain the performance from the club and michel has done it.

Girona needs to prevent him and key players to leave from the club no matter how big the offer came from other clubs.

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Quote from: KTChampions on January 09, 2024, 09:11:57 AM

Despite the title last year, Xavi had two years of failure in European competition, plus, taking into account their last game, Barcelona set a historical anti-record - 20 games without a win with a difference of more than one goal. This has never happened in history (and Barcelona has had very difficult times in different periods). Episodes like this look like systemic problems, right? Another question is how much of Xavi’s share of blame is here personally, but I think that there is definitely some - the club does not look like a club that achieves more than it deserves, rather the opposite.

Barcelona today is not the same Barcelona as its glory days, but what is unique is that Barcelona can still win titles even if they only get them in domestic competitions. Real Madrid barely won anything last season even though they had many experienced players and big stars in their squad, it was also much worse than Barcelona who were facing bad financial problems.
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Absolutely not. Real won the Copa del Rey + they reached the semi-finals of the Champions League. The mere fact that they reached the semi-finals of the Champions League outweighs all the achievements (Super Cup + La Liga) of Barcelona. Fair or not, from a business point of view, the Champions League is more important than the national championship because it gives more money. Moreover, the fact that Real lost the title last year was quite natural given the restructuring they made.

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Quote from: Warkop on January 09, 2024, 08:56:03 AM

In my opinion, Barcelona will definitely bring in new players in the transfer market this winter, but their spending on players is limited and they are looking for very affordable prices because Barcelona is experiencing a financial crisis which has a big impact on this.

Yeah that could be true but however is still going to be a serious challenge for Barcelona because if they are not financially enough to buy a good quality player and decided to use the little they have to buy other smaller players, perhaps there poor performance will still remain the same so is better they sign one good quality player than buying three inexperienced player that cannot be able to help the club and improve there performance, so there management needs to really settle down to think things through in other to use the little resources they have wisely because the current situation of Barcelona cannot be change by some inexperienced players, however what they need right now is a game changer, a player who can deliver.

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Quote from: KTChampions on January 09, 2024, 09:11:57 AM

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Despite the title last year, Xavi had two years of failure in European competition, plus, taking into account their last game, Barcelona set a historical anti-record - 20 games without a win with a difference of more than one goal. This has never happened in history (and Barcelona has had very difficult times in different periods). Episodes like this look like systemic problems, right? Another question is how much of Xavi’s share of blame is here personally, but I think that there is definitely some - the club does not look like a club that achieves more than it deserves, rather the opposite.

Barcelona today is not the same Barcelona as its glory days, but what is unique is that Barcelona can still win titles even if they only get them in domestic competitions. Real Madrid barely won anything last season even though they had many experienced players and big stars in their squad, it was also much worse than Barcelona who were facing bad financial problems.

It's natural for Barcelona to fail in European competitions because they don't have the worth it resources to beat their tough opponents. They are a team with several loan players, they also maximize young players from the academy to fight together and win something. Barcelona is a great team, they can do it when they are in a complicated problem.

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Quote from: Doell on January 09, 2024, 09:48:14 AM

Quote from: Volgastallion on January 09, 2024, 09:34:40 AM

Yeah in teams like Girona when youa re doing so good with this players in some cases is not so good to bting new players and disbalance the team, you only have to buy a player in a position where you know you only have 1 player for that position and in case of a injuty put the new one.

I think I understand what you say, indeed the performance of the Girona squad is already very good, and it is worried new player will not be able to adapt optimally. If Girona want to buy new players, Girona should buy one or two to add depth their squad, because may will be help at least as a replacement if a core player is injured. Considering in the rest of this season situation might heat up, the Girona manager must be able to make very a good plans.

I agree, adding only the players necessary to add depth to the squad by buying one or two new players could be a wise move.
because when buying new players it is also important to consider aspects of team integration so that the adaptation of new players runs smoothly. Good communication between managers, players and coaching staff will help create a positive atmosphere in a team that has been created well,
Hopefully Girona management can make the right decisions and succeed in implementing a mature strategy to achieve success in the remainder of this season and become a challenger for the LaLiga title.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on January 09, 2024, 09:34:40 AM

Yeah in teams like Girona when youa re doing so good with this players in some cases is not so good to bting new players and disbalance the team, you only have to buy a player in a position where you know you only have 1 player for that position and in case of a injuty put the new one.

I think I understand what you say, indeed the performance of the Girona squad is already very good, and it is worried new player will not be able to adapt optimally. If Girona want to buy new players, Girona should buy one or two to add depth their squad, because may will be help at least as a replacement if a core player is injured. Considering in the rest of this season situation might heat up, the Girona manager must be able to make very a good plans.

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Since Real Madrid and Girona have the same number of points in the league, I think it would be best for Barcelona to give up on winning the league title this season. With this point differences, I don't think Barcelona can compete with these two teams at this point, Barcelona should be concentrating on how to qualify to the next champions league, as Atletico Madrid and Athletic Club want to overtake them.

In these two competitions Barcelona's chances are equally slim, in Laliga because they are seven points behind and with the conditions of Real Madrid and Girona, which are quite stable in appearance, it can be said that it is impossible for Barcelona to take over the top of the standings, because it means that Real Madrid and Girona must lose at least eight points with Barcelona continuing to perform well by getting three points in all the remaining matches, and this is quite a difficult thing because during the last match against Las Palmas they almost got a draw and finally won after Las Palmas got a red card and Gundogan managed to score through the penalty spot.
Moreover, the champions league where the competition is with strong teams from different leagues and can get to the semifinals is already a pretty good achievement for Barcelona but it's not an easy thing because the opponent will be even harder when it enters the quarterfinals.

If Barcelona don't get new players in the winter transfer window who can help the team, then of course they don't have much chance of winning the Primera... But still there are 19 games left until the end of the season, and seven points is not very much, although I think that Real will win the title this season... But it will be a big surprise if Girona do it...

In my opinion, Barcelona will definitely bring in new players in the transfer market this winter, but their spending on players is limited and they are looking for very affordable prices because Barcelona is experiencing a financial crisis which has a big impact on this. It is indeed very difficult for Barcelona to win the La Liga title this season, but if they can take advantage of this winter transfer moment to find players who really occupy the positions they need and change their playing strategy patterns and achieve victory in the next match. . I am sure that Barcelona will definitely be able to overtake this ranking position, although it is unlikely that they will be able to compete with Real Mandrid and Girona. Real Madrid can be certain to be champions, it is reported that they will bring in Kylian Mbappé in the winter transfer market this time, this will make Real Madrid's attack line even more capable of putting pressure on their opponents. If only Girona could bring in new, more qualified players to sharpen their attacking power. That way, Girona will be better prepared to face Real Madrid later to win the Laliga title this season.

Barcelona's position is hard to explain.

The club needs money to pay the debt but it is also in the needs to recruit the new talents to the club. So, it's hard to tell which thing that will be prioritized by xavi. he has received many blames due to the horrific performance of barcelona.
He may receive more soon. barcelona has lost its standard and it's performing even worse than before. Barcelona have an abundance for a certain level of midfielders. The main problem this club has only lewandowski as its striker which was very disappointed to see that.
Barcelona could do so much more but the debt has prvented it to do that. This is the main problem that needs to be sorted out but im still questioning the solutions from xavi regarding this problem. It's going to be a rocky road for xavi to sorted it all out from the club.
So i thought overall barcelona's performance was really poor even when it was facing some weak clubs as its opponents. This is a setback for barcelona caused by the fans were expecting a lot from barcelona but barcelona can't bring it on.

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Quote from: Justbillywitt on January 09, 2024, 09:25:58 AM

Quote from: HajiBagi on January 09, 2024, 01:14:32 AM

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I agree with you, I don't see why Xavi is to be blamed for what Barcelona are going through right now. There is no way that they Barcelona will be winning the league every season. If they are not winning the games now, I think the team is just in a transition and will do better next season if they buy the right players. For me Xavi has done well as a coach.

The coach is fully responsible for the decline in the team's performance. Last season Barcelona performed extraordinary by winning the La Liga trophy, while this season Barcelona's performance has experienced a very significant decline compared to last season. The coach's dismissal occurred due to the team's increasingly poor performance. Tuchel has experienced the situation when Chelsea is unable to maintain its best performance. He is the one who is being blamed for the team's poor performance.
It's true, it's impossible for Barcelona to win trophies every season, at least he must be able to make Barcelona compete with Real Madrid in the title race.

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Yeah in teams like Girona when youa re doing so good with this players in some cases is not so good to bting new players and disbalance the team, you only have to buy a player in a position where you know you only have 1 player for that position and in case of a injuty put the new one.

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