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Quote from: zaki12 on January 31, 2023, 09:47:15 AM

Losing casimero is the main culprit, management doesn't learn from experience. When selling Claude Makalele, there was a decline in performance. Now it's happening again. Makalele and Casemero are not really big stars. But their ability to maintain the balance of the team is irreplaceable.
Ronaldo brazil, ronaldo portugal Are big stars They go Real Madrid is not bad. However, Makalele and Casimero left. Real Madrid is helpless and rarely even Real Madrid clean sheet every game.
Valverde just isn't playing well right now, even though before this world cup players in Madrid could be relied on.

Dani Carvajal, Aurelien Tchouameni, Ferland Mendy, Lucas Vazquez are all out due to injury and it's clear that Real Madrid have lost control of their defense a bit. Losing Casemiro shouldn't be too much of problem as Tchouameni can be relied on in his position, but it was due to injury that Real Madrid took hit.

Ancelotti seems to have signaled that Real Madrid need some defenders both at left and right back, also he needs some strikers to back up Benzema. I don't know when that will happen, but it's good signal to expect some signings.

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Quote from: hahay on January 31, 2023, 10:02:08 AM

The first is Bilbao, which in the end will not be able to compete in the top four, even though Bilbao was previously in the top four. Next maybe about Betis and also Villarreal, I think they still don't have good ability to be able to compete in the top four until the end of the season.
Therefore, maybe I was a little surprised by the defeat that Villarreal received because Villarreal lost at home by Rayo Vallecano with a final score of 0-1.

Villareal's defeat by Rayo Vallecano may indeed come as a bit of a shock. But I was more surprised by Athletic Bilbao's defeat by Celta Vigo. Even Celta Vigo had a good game in that match. that is, they can keep up with Athletic Bilbao's game pattern. I think in the second half of the season a lot of weak teams have turned strong. so that some matches become very difficult to predict.

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Quote from: coinerer on January 31, 2023, 02:18:31 AM

I agree with you Real Madrid is much strong team and Their players are very active and can pass the ball very well so it will be very difficult for Valencia to win with them. But everyone's predictions indicate that Real Madrid will easily win against Valencia because Real Madrid is a very smart team and they have a lot of reputation worldwide. Valencia is a bit better team but can't match Real Madrid maybe Real Madrid will have some difficulty to win against them but it is very possible that Real Madrid will win against them very easily.

Real madrid was highly favored in this match, valencia was not a strong opponent for Real madrid especially since valencia was in not good condition in their last 5 matches. Valencia weaknesses can be used as best as possible for Real Madrid to return to winning ways after previously experiencing a draw against Real Sociedad. But this match seems to be full of pressure from both teams to be able to win this match, especially for Real Madrid, who don't want the points to be further away from Barcelona, of course they will play more aggressively in pressing.

In the last few matches that Real Madrid have played, it is obvious that their performance has continued to decline, this is none other than Vinicius and Rodrygo have not been able to make a big contribution in scoring goals, Benzema is still better than the two.

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Quote from: onecall123 on January 31, 2023, 08:38:06 AM

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Although as we know, Madrid experienced a slight decline in performance and was five points behind Barcelona. Madrid's decline in performance is not without reason, the problem is that some of their core players have been injured. to the extent that, Don Carlo rotated his midfielder to become a defender during the match against Sociedad. nonetheless, I'm sure Don Carlo will bring his team back to the real track.

I've been waiting for that. The cycle of Madrid's success is always cyclical, so changes can happen. A goalless draw against Real Sociedad resulted in them dropping points. There is no way that Real Madrid can keep up this form until the end of the season, Ancelotti might be able to turn things around for his team.

Real Madrid played well even though they dropped two points at home, Real Madrid was unlucky not being able to score a single goal despite having several chances. The season is still long, anything can happen even though currently Barcelona is 5 points ahead of Real Madrid. The draw that Real Madrid had just won made Ancelotti even more serious about preparing his team for the next match, a win had to be obtained to maintain the difference in points from Barcelona.

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Quote from: Renampun on January 31, 2023, 07:13:17 AM

valencia's management is really funny, they blame Gattuso because currently valencia is still in an unsafe zone but they don't want to add a number of potential players for valencia. Gattuso has moved clubs several times, hopefully, he will soon find a suitable team and want to stay with him for a long time.

It is normal for Board management to blame the coach for the team's results. Because for them, the coach is a leader who must be able to provide a good strategy with any quality of players, must be able to achieve the target desired by the board. I agree with @bering, being a good player is not guarantee he will become a good coach too. Gattuso should try to follow Maldini decision to become as a director or he can choose to become other than a coach. Perhaps his best career right now is not as a coach. See what happens with Seedorf, he also can't give any good result for his club. And now, no club hire him.

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Quote from: onecall123 on January 31, 2023, 08:38:06 AM

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Although as we know, Madrid experienced a slight decline in performance and was five points behind Barcelona. Madrid's decline in performance is not without reason, the problem is that some of their core players have been injured. to the extent that, Don Carlo rotated his midfielder to become a defender during the match against Sociedad. nonetheless, I'm sure Don Carlo will bring his team back to the real track.

I've been waiting for that. The cycle of Madrid's success is always cyclical, so changes can happen. A goalless draw against Real Sociedad resulted in them dropping points. There is no way that Real Madrid can keep up this form until the end of the season, Ancelotti might be able to turn things around for his team.

Real madrid must have won the remaining matches until the end of season. The draw was only making the gap to the barcelona become even bigger. As far as i know that if real madrid can't even perform like when real against sociedad.
It seems like that real madrid needs to be even more active by buying the new players. So many players in real madrid are old enough compared with barcelona. This is also giving a very big impact to the club. Barcelona will face real madrid in semifinal of capa del rey. Real madrid must make revenge against barcelona.

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Quote from: onecall123 on January 31, 2023, 08:38:06 AM

Quote from: rahmad2nd on January 31, 2023, 05:04:30 AM

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Although as we know, Madrid experienced a slight decline in performance and was five points behind Barcelona. Madrid's decline in performance is not without reason, the problem is that some of their core players have been injured. to the extent that, Don Carlo rotated his midfielder to become a defender during the match against Sociedad. nonetheless, I'm sure Don Carlo will bring his team back to the real track.

I've been waiting for that. The cycle of Madrid's success is always cyclical, so changes can happen. A goalless draw against Real Sociedad resulted in them dropping points. There is no way that Real Madrid can keep up this form until the end of the season, Ancelotti might be able to turn things around for his team.

Real Madrid needed a breath of fresh air and the last match against Real Sociedad should have been put to good use but instead wasted with a draw. Defenders look vulnerable and very porous. Madrid defense is clearly a big problem if it's not fixed immediately.
As Ancelotti said in the transfer market, they don't really need a lot of additional players because they feel confident with their main squad. But in this case, the mistake made the team's performance look monotonous and didn't develop much. In my opinion, they look different from last season, while Barcelona last season's real rival is in a transitional stage so they welcome the season looking more confident and able to prove that they are at the top of the standings for quite a long time.

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Quote from: hahay on January 31, 2023, 10:02:08 AM

The first is Bilbao, which in the end will not be able to compete in the top four, even though Bilbao was previously in the top four. Next maybe about Betis and also Villarreal, I think they still don't have good ability to be able to compete in the top four until the end of the season.
Therefore, maybe I was a little surprised by the defeat that Villarreal received because Villarreal lost at home by Rayo Vallecano with a final score of 0-1.

In fact the top 4 in La Liga already belong to Real Madrid, Barcelona and Atletico Madrid, there is only one slot for other clubs to be in that place. And now Real Sociedad are the strongest candidate for the position. Yes Real Sociedad is in 3rd place now with a difference of 5 points from 4th position occupied by Atletico Madrid and 8 points from 5th position. start. However, match after game they can do well and continue to gain points for the best position they will achieve at the end of the competition.

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The first is Bilbao, which in the end will not be able to compete in the top four, even though Bilbao was previously in the top four. Next maybe about Betis and also Villarreal, I think they still don't have good ability to be able to compete in the top four until the end of the season.
Therefore, maybe I was a little surprised by the defeat that Villarreal received because Villarreal lost at home by Rayo Vallecano with a final score of 0-1.

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Quote from: harapan on January 31, 2023, 03:02:09 AM

I have never liked Velverde as a midfielder. All he offers is goals and when those goals stop coming he's next to useless. Lie you I don't judge a midfielder based on goals but it you take goals out of Velverde he a pretty average midfielder because he cant control the game or play make or lay passes like Kroos and Modric.

Losing casimero is the main culprit, management doesn't learn from experience. When selling Claude Makalele, there was a decline in performance. Now it's happening again. Makalele and Casemero are not really big stars. But their ability to maintain the balance of the team is irreplaceable.
Ronaldo brazil, ronaldo portugal Are big stars They go Real Madrid is not bad. However, Makalele and Casimero left. Real Madrid is helpless and rarely even Real Madrid clean sheet every game.
Valverde just isn't playing well right now, even though before this world cup players in Madrid could be relied on.

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Quote from: masulum on January 30, 2023, 09:37:01 PM

Unfortunately, Gattuso failed to become Valencia coach. He was reportedly fired by Valencia as of January 30, 2023. It was very hard for a Gattuso to become a coach, he didn't shine so much, since 2013, he could only give 1 Coppa Italia trophy to Napoli. Meanwhile, when he coached other clubs, including Valencia, he experienced difficulties. Valencia in bad position, they are only 1 point different from the team in the relegation zone. Despite being in 14th position at the moment, it looks like the Valencia board does not want this negative result to continue, and has decided to sign mutual agreement to terminate the contract with Gattuso.

It's a shame that his football career was so extraordinary but it wasn't worth it when he was a coach and it seems like a tough decision for Valencia to take considering they had to slump at the bottom of the standings this season. Gattuso did not make a winning contribution for Valencia, therefore since yesterday there has been news that he was sacked and I can only hope that in the coming season he will find a new club where he can train. For Valencia, I hope they find a replacement coach for Gattuso soon, considering that the competition at the bottom is so tight and most teams have the same points as Valencia.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on January 31, 2023, 05:04:30 AM

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Although as we know, Madrid experienced a slight decline in performance and was five points behind Barcelona. Madrid's decline in performance is not without reason, the problem is that some of their core players have been injured. to the extent that, Don Carlo rotated his midfielder to become a defender during the match against Sociedad. nonetheless, I'm sure Don Carlo will bring his team back to the real track.

I've been waiting for that. The cycle of Madrid's success is always cyclical, so changes can happen. A goalless draw against Real Sociedad resulted in them dropping points. There is no way that Real Madrid can keep up this form until the end of the season, Ancelotti might be able to turn things around for his team.

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Quote from: Doell on January 30, 2023, 05:22:27 PM

Villarreal could not continue their good trend, tonight they can stopped by Rayo Vallecano with score 0-1, although they have tried several opportunities. But I think Villarreal position in the standings may still be safe for a while because Real Betis will against Barcelona at the Benito Villamarín, it also seems likely that Real Betis will find it difficult to get points in that match although at home.

Villarreal's defeat to Vallecano was truly unexpected, in that match Vallecano looked very defensive and very careful. although currently Villarreal's position in the standings is still safe but they are competing with Real Betis because of the same points, if Villareal won against Vallecano, they have shifted the ATM position.

Quote from: masulum on January 30, 2023, 09:37:01 PM

Unfortunately, Gattuso failed to become Valencia coach. He was reportedly fired by Valencia as of January 30, 2023. It was very hard for a Gattuso to become a coach, he didn't shine so much, since 2013, he could only give 1 Coppa Italia trophy to Napoli. Meanwhile, when he coached other clubs, including Valencia, he experienced difficulties. Valencia in bad position, they are only 1 point different from the team in the relegation zone. Despite being in 14th position at the moment, it looks like the Valencia board does not want this negative result to continue, and has decided to sign mutual agreement to terminate the contract with Gattuso.

valencia's management is really funny, they blame Gattuso because currently valencia is still in an unsafe zone but they don't want to add a number of potential players for valencia. Gattuso has moved clubs several times, hopefully, he will soon find a suitable team and want to stay with him for a long time.

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Quote from: coinerer on January 31, 2023, 02:18:31 AM

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because of the team's poor performance, it was only natural that the club fired him. and now I think the focus from Valencia is at least not relegation. I hope this will be the right choice for club management. and also a replacement must be appointed immediately because the competition continues. and they also have a match shortly. even their match against a strong team like Madrid will be quite a difficult match for Valencia.

I agree with you Real Madrid is much strong team and Their players are very active and can pass the ball very well so it will be very difficult for Valencia to win with them. But everyone's predictions indicate that Real Madrid will easily win against Valencia because Real Madrid is a very smart team and they have a lot of reputation worldwide. Valencia is a bit better team but can't match Real Madrid maybe Real Madrid will have some difficulty to win against them but it is very possible that Real Madrid will win against them very easily.

IMO, Madrid should have no problems when hosting Valencia later. the reason is, Valencia's performance was really bad and even was conquered by Valladolid which in the end, Gennaro Gattuso was fired from the Valencia coaching chair. that is, Valencia is in bad shape and Madrid should be able to easily overthrow them. especially in the match later, Madrid played as the home team.

Although as we know, Madrid experienced a slight decline in performance and was five points behind Barcelona. Madrid's decline in performance is not without reason, the problem is that some of their core players have been injured. to the extent that, Don Carlo rotated his midfielder to become a defender during the match against Sociedad. nonetheless, I'm sure Don Carlo will bring his team back to the real track.

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Quote from: hd49728 on January 30, 2023, 06:35:20 AM

However, I don't think it is fair enough to criticize him for why Real Madrid lost 2 points in the match. They are a team and other players are responsible for it too.

I am not blaming him for the the bad result of Real Madrid, I'm only saying you guys should maintain the energy when it comes to players you don't like. Vini played well but was wasteful in front of goal and that's a fact. Take Kobo was on of the best players on the field that night. He was doing everything Vini was doing but he did not get the clear chances Vini had. I'm not criticizing Vini but he cant keep missing chances like that because it might hurt them like it did against Sociedad.

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Really? He has played a better season than expected at start because he has become a more goal productive midfielder. You can not blame on a midfielder when a team can not score a single goal in a match.

I have never liked Velverde as a midfielder. All he offers is goals and when those goals stop coming he's next to useless. Lie you I don't judge a midfielder based on goals but it you take goals out of Velverde he a pretty average midfielder because he cant control the game or play make or lay passes like Kroos and Modric.
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Quote from: rozak on January 31, 2023, 02:06:38 AM

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It seems that Gennaro Gattuso's departure cannot be contested anymore, considering that Valencia has appeared pathetic in its last 10 matches. Los Che have only won one of those 10 matches, and only once have they scored a clean sheet.

It seems that after the departure of Gennaro Gattuso, Valencia will return to training as usual, but under the direction of the interim coach, Salvador Gonzalez Marco or who is fondly called Voro.

because of the team's poor performance, it was only natural that the club fired him. and now I think the focus from Valencia is at least not relegation. I hope this will be the right choice for club management. and also a replacement must be appointed immediately because the competition continues. and they also have a match shortly. even their match against a strong team like Madrid will be quite a difficult match for Valencia.

I agree with you Real Madrid is much strong team and Their players are very active and can pass the ball very well so it will be very difficult for Valencia to win with them. But everyone's predictions indicate that Real Madrid will easily win against Valencia because Real Madrid is a very smart team and they have a lot of reputation worldwide. Valencia is a bit better team but can't match Real Madrid maybe Real Madrid will have some difficulty to win against them but it is very possible that Real Madrid will win against them very easily.

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Quote from: piebeyb on January 31, 2023, 02:00:25 AM

It seems that Gennaro Gattuso's departure cannot be contested anymore, considering that Valencia has appeared pathetic in its last 10 matches. Los Che have only won one of those 10 matches, and only once have they scored a clean sheet.

It seems that after the departure of Gennaro Gattuso, Valencia will return to training as usual, but under the direction of the interim coach, Salvador Gonzalez Marco or who is fondly called Voro.

because of the team's poor performance, it was only natural that the club fired him. and now I think the focus from Valencia is at least not relegation. I hope this will be the right choice for club management. and also a replacement must be appointed immediately because the competition continues. and they also have a match shortly. even their match against a strong team like Madrid will be quite a difficult match for Valencia.

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Quote from: masulum on January 30, 2023, 09:37:01 PM

Unfortunately, Gattuso failed to become Valencia coach. He was reportedly fired by Valencia as of January 30, 2023. It was very hard for a Gattuso to become a coach, he didn't shine so much, since 2013, he could only give 1 Coppa Italia trophy to Napoli. Meanwhile, when he coached other clubs, including Valencia, he experienced difficulties. Valencia in bad position, they are only 1 point different from the team in the relegation zone. Despite being in 14th position at the moment, it looks like the Valencia board does not want this negative result to continue, and has decided to sign mutual agreement to terminate the contract with Gattuso.

It seems that Gennaro Gattuso's departure cannot be contested anymore, considering that Valencia has appeared pathetic in its last 10 matches. Los Che have only won one of those 10 matches, and only once have they scored a clean sheet.

It seems that after the departure of Gennaro Gattuso, Valencia will return to training as usual, but under the direction of the interim coach, Salvador Gonzalez Marco or who is fondly called Voro.

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Quote from: masulum on January 30, 2023, 09:37:01 PM

Unfortunately, Gattuso failed to become Valencia coach. He was reportedly fired by Valencia as of January 30, 2023. It was very hard for a Gattuso to become a coach, he didn't shine so much, since 2013, he could only give 1 Coppa Italia trophy to Napoli. Meanwhile, when he coached other clubs, including Valencia, he experienced difficulties. Valencia in bad position, they are only 1 point different from the team in the relegation zone. Despite being in 14th position at the moment, it looks like the Valencia board does not want this negative result to continue, and has decided to sign mutual agreement to terminate the contract with Gattuso.

Being a great player doesn't mean you can also be a good manager that Gattuso managerial career didn't run smoothly he has several times sacked from manager positions and now Valencia has decide to sacked him but this is predictable before because no significant progress from Valencia since he arrived to this team at the beginning of season and with only 1 difference point above to relegation zone makes Valencia position in danger

Last season Valencia can able to finish at 9th position and they also can able reach to final match on Copa Del Rey and currently it's hard to repeated considering they already eleminate by Bilbao several days ago and next week Valencia will do hard match against Madrid this is difficult situations because probably they will play with their caretaker and until now i didn's see any rumour who will be the replacement of Gattuso

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Quote from: Falconer on January 30, 2023, 04:55:20 PM

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It's the same here, I believe Real Madrid will not have too many problems to get 3 points in the match against Real Sociedad, but in fact they were frustrated the whole match. Obviously, this is an unfavorable condition considering that Barcelona is further ahead, now it has 5 points. Even though Real Madrid really played well and created lot of chances, they were all in vain. This is the 3rd draw for Real Madrid this season at home, and I hope they will be even better in their next match.

Real Sociedad has a good record in La Liga. Before facing Real Madrid at the Santiago Bernabeu, Imanol Alguacil team won 5 consecutive wins in La Liga, the last time they were only able to draw against Valencia. In the last five matches played, Real Sociedad only conceded two goals and managed to score 11 goals.
Real Sociedad solid defense made it difficult for Real Madrid's players to find goals even though they controlled the game. There were no opportunities that were taken advantage of perfectly because Real Sociedad defense played very disciplined. Real Sociedad have become a new contender for the top four, I am not too surprised by their success in bringing home a point from the Santiago Bernabeu because their performances this season have been very good.

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