Real Madrid will never forget the message Barcelona sent by winning the Spanish Super Cup. It is now clear how much pressure this result has put on Real Madrid, especially in La Liga, and how much criticism they will face. Since they lost to Barca, they can also be expected to lose to Atletico Madrid, who are at the top of La Liga points table at the moment. Based on the result in this match, Barcelona can find a losing form. They will be even stronger and return to the top of La Liga once again. This loss is not a ordinary loss. How widespread its impact can be visible in the upcoming matches.
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If Real Madrid had won that Spanish Super Cup trophy, they would've been too relaxed but just like you said the defeat sent a clear message to them that Barcelona are ready to challenge them for the Spanish La Liga title tho season and that I think will make Real Madrid to sit up and give their best in other to retain the trophy. Real Madrid is coached by Carlo Ancelotti who we all know is immune to pressure when it comes to winning trophies so I don't think he'll allow his team undergo any sort of pressure rather the defeat will make him dig deep and bring out the best from his players.
It's enough to concentrate on what Madrid is doing at this crucial time.
They were already comfortably ahead and even had a goal disallowed due to their good attacking play, but Ancelotti was overconfident and changed a number of players including Mbappe and Brahim, which led to the midfield being exposed to resistance, which led to two mistakes that led to two equalizers from Celta Vigo.
This obviously upset me a little bit even though there is a chance to stay in the 2x15 minutes of extra time now but still the situation is a little complicated when they should have solved that and won easily in this match that took place.
The extra time with the youngsters in attack hopefully won't cost them a place in the last 16 of the Copa del Rey.
They were already comfortably ahead and even had a goal disallowed due to their good attacking play, but Ancelotti was overconfident and changed a number of players including Mbappe and Brahim, which led to the midfield being exposed to resistance, which led to two mistakes that led to two equalizers from Celta Vigo.
This obviously upset me a little bit even though there is a chance to stay in the 2x15 minutes of extra time now but still the situation is a little complicated when they should have solved that and won easily in this match that took place.
The extra time with the youngsters in attack hopefully won't cost them a place in the last 16 of the Copa del Rey.
In the end, Real Madrid managed to win with a score of 5-2, and Ancelotti squad managed to advance to the next round. The course of the match was dramatic when the score was tied at 2-2, the rotation of players carried out by Ancelotti proved to produce the desired results. Endrick managed to contribute 2 goals, that was good enough to get more trust from Ancelotti in the future. Celta Vigo is basically an easy opponent, but today they managed to make Real Madrid work extra hard until extra time.
Overall, Real Madrid second-string players still cannot be fully relied on, Ancelotti even had to make 6 substitutions to ensure his team won. This raises a little concern, because Real Madrid this season has a fairly tight match schedule. The storm of injuries has indeed passed, although not completely, but in my opinion Ancelotti should still recruit new players this winter.
Madrid's extra time was a bit of a gamble as they pulled out players and replaced them with youngsters for rotation which was a bit risky but Madrid's youngsters showed a lot of promise especially when their mentality in doing offensive schemes in the second half extra time was worthy of appreciation. Although we can't rule out the fact that there was some controversy involved, the 3 goals in extra time were really good in my opinion especially Valverde's powerful strike which is always stunning when it results in a goal.
Yeah! maybe but Realmadrid isn’t by any chance pressured in Laliga, they are currently Cooked in LaLiga with so much point to coverup , not just Realmadrid is competing with them but Athletico Madrid as well, Athletico is currently taking the lead with 6 points ahead same goes with Realmadrid who are just 1 point behind Athletico…
Realmadrid defence is just weak,same thing happened while they were playing against Athletico though it was a draw..
Hence, it seems we know who’s currently presssured even Athletic club is just 2 points behind them which means if they should fvck up one more time Athletic club might take over the third position… so it will be a tough journey to regain that spot.
Realmadrid defence is just weak,same thing happened while they were playing against Athletico though it was a draw..
Hence, it seems we know who’s currently presssured even Athletic club is just 2 points behind them which means if they should fvck up one more time Athletic club might take over the third position… so it will be a tough journey to regain that spot.
There is difference between been pressure and been deficient in players and also been lucky. Good performance keeps players in good place but Real Madrid has this aura of been fear sometimes and that is what makes them special sometimes. They really lack defenders and it's something urgent Anceloti should have work on but I know that stubborn guy, he think he is the best in coaching players and there is no doubt about that but he can't be right all the time.
By chance if Real Madrid continue to play likely this the may catch up and flipped Atletico Madrid but the speed at which the two teams are tearing up other teams is unpredictable. The goals are massive and you can't tell who is weaker now but I know they will lose matches soon. Either Atletico and Madrid, none of them can finish the season with this number of loss game, they will definitely be one person that will not disappoint when you think they are in good form.
On Atlético, they're the team you can never definitely rule out. They're not as flashy, but they keep going, and Griezmann is doing a great job again. It's possible for Madrid to lose points and let Atleti beat them if they don't fix their defense. It will be a strange roller coaster where both teams will look like world-beaters and Sunday league players at different times. At the end, someone is bound to fall, but Real is most likely to be the first team to do so if they don't fix their defense quickly
The El Classico games expose the bad defense of Real Madrid because Real Madrid fans are hyping their defenders meanwhile we all know that they are not good enough compared to other teams. Now Madrid is out there looking for defenses because all the effort their midfielders and attackers will do will be wasted if the defenders can’t help the team to defend their box.
Of course, El Clasico really showed how bad the defense line of Real Madrid. They could lead the game in the early match, but they were easily conceded goals after that. If Real Madrid had stronger defense, they might win the El Clasico. Also, I think Real Madrid have no strong defensive midfielder, they missed someone like Casemiro. Aurélien Tchouaméni can't perform well as a defensive midfielder. If he performs well, it can help the defenders as well.If Madrid sign defenders, Mbappe will have less pressure from the fans because they will be winning a lot matches and he will definitely be among the goal contributors, and then, he will achieve a lot of individual achievements as a player.
I don't think so. Even if Real Madrid has already strong defenders, fans will always expect much for a better performance from Mbappe. People want Mbappe to score many goals in each match. People want him to prove his quality as one of the best strikers in the world.
Yeah! maybe but Realmadrid isn’t by any chance pressured in Laliga, they are currently Cooked in LaLiga with so much point to coverup , not just Realmadrid is competing with them but Athletico Madrid as well, Athletico is currently taking the lead with 6 points ahead same goes with Realmadrid who are just 1 point behind Athletico…
Realmadrid defence is just weak,same thing happened while they were playing against Athletico though it was a draw..
Hence, it seems we know who’s currently presssured even Athletic club is just 2 points behind them which means if they should fvck up one more time Athletic club might take over the third position… so it will be a tough journey to regain that spot.
Realmadrid defence is just weak,same thing happened while they were playing against Athletico though it was a draw..
Hence, it seems we know who’s currently presssured even Athletic club is just 2 points behind them which means if they should fvck up one more time Athletic club might take over the third position… so it will be a tough journey to regain that spot.
There is difference between been pressure and been deficient in players and also been lucky. Good performance keeps players in good place but Real Madrid has this aura of been fear sometimes and that is what makes them special sometimes. They really lack defenders and it's something urgent Anceloti should have work on but I know that stubborn guy, he think he is the best in coaching players and there is no doubt about that but he can't be right all the time.
By chance if Real Madrid continue to play likely this the may catch up and flipped Atletico Madrid but the speed at which the two teams are tearing up other teams is unpredictable. The goals are massive and you can't tell who is weaker now but I know they will lose matches soon. Either Atletico and Madrid, none of them can finish the season with this number of loss game, they will definitely be one person that will not disappoint when you think they are in good form.
Atletico Madrid is trying not to give up, who knows if they will be able to win this season
With the points difference still very thin, it is quite difficult to determine it now, we are in the middle of the season which is not easy to be consistent until the end. The standings especially the top 3 will still roll, if we talk about the probability at this time I think Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid and Barcelona have the same chance. Atletico is leading but with a capital of 1 point it is very uncomfortable. Real Madrid performance has not been consistent, sometimes even against teams below them they still have difficulty.Real and Atletico may have equal chances, but Barcelona is definitely out of place on this list. All these teams had difficult periods, but Barcelona had a series of games where they scored 5 points in 6 games, Real and Atletico did not have such a failure. Plus, look at the number of defeats - Atlético Madrid has 1, Real Madrid has 2, Barcelona has 5. One team is definitely superfluous here.
The fluctuation of Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid continues till the day that they will play a game against each other because, for now, both of the teams are in good condition, and almost all the teams that they will be playing against them now are not that strong as they are, so it will be very hard for them to lose any game any time close.
Barcelona is going low again, which they were supposed to play well and still meet up to Real Madrid and Atlético Madrid in the table, but I think they will still try to win their upcoming games, which will definitely be a good one for them, and I hope they make it to second in the table by the end of the league because for them to lose 5 games so far, I don’t think they will be able to win the championship anymore.
His really improving with each passing game unlike when he first arrived, i was even beginning to say he was Madrid's worse signing of the season even though he was a free agent and came to Real Madrid for free. His poor run of performance was getting to most of fans who knew Mbappe before and the level of football he played in France. Although some fans still believed in him and wanted him to settle in the league first before they start bashing him. Its really good that his now showing the kind of top player he really is.
Mbappe is really doing well in Real Madrid, his performance is not noticed because the fans are expecting something huge from him because they never expected him to struggle before adapting to the team, but now he has adapted to the team and the Laliga pattern of play, but the lack of defense in the team is the main reason why Madrid’s performance is not too good as expected, but yet they are doing their best.The El Classico games expose the bad defense of Real Madrid because Real Madrid fans are hyping their defenders meanwhile we all know that they are not good enough compared to other teams. Now Madrid is out there looking for defenses because all the effort their midfielders and attackers will do will be wasted if the defenders can’t help the team to defend their box.
If Madrid sign defenders, Mbappe will have less pressure from the fans because they will be winning a lot matches and he will definitely be among the goal contributors, and then, he will achieve a lot of individual achievements as a player.
I know it is very discouraging mbappe not just performing the way fans expect from him, but I can see he is getting better compare to before now when he first joined the team. Mbappe will definitely get use to the team let's just give him some time for this transformation to just happen.
I'm very certain mbappe will make a good chemistry with his team players, he is just trying to get use to Laliga, I think it is not just easy for him like when he was in the French league.
Mbappe's current performance is slowly starting to gain momentum even if you see in several matches that Madrid has actually done he can always score goals which is always discussed by most people who criticize him for not being able to score goals and now he has proven that his adaptation process in the first season is slowly getting a good result even for now he is slowly on the path to top scores even though he is still 5 goals behind Lewa at the top of the top score now but he is very good for now.I'm very certain mbappe will make a good chemistry with his team players, he is just trying to get use to Laliga, I think it is not just easy for him like when he was in the French league.
Early expeations that did not seem to want to understand about adaptation made him seem to be considered bad when in fact it was commonplace even though there were indeed several moments at the beginning of the season he could not do his job well but actually for now Mbappe is enough to say that he is indeed developing and still very able to continue to get momentum to match the expectations of many people who always feel less with performance.
Speed cannot always be relied on because a player's intelligence can be seen in how he places himself in a more appropriate position to score goals even though individual ability is also quite important because it makes the opponent's defense have trouble guarding him. Mbappe is getting better in La Liga because even though he is not completely solid, teamwork has begun to form well so that slowly Mbappe has shown his best skills. Chemistry does need to be improved again so that Real Madrid's strength becomes better and maybe it is necessary to recruit players who are positioned in the defense area so that they can be much stronger and more solid.
I'm very certain mbappe will make a good chemistry with his team players, he is just trying to get use to Laliga, I think it is not just easy for him like when he was in the French league.
Real Madrid will never forget the message Barcelona sent by winning the Spanish Super Cup. It is now clear how much pressure this result has put on Real Madrid, especially in La Liga, and how much criticism they will face. Since they lost to Barca, they can also be expected to lose to Atletico Madrid, who are at the top of La Liga points table at the moment. Based on the result in this match, Barcelona can find a losing form. They will be even stronger and return to the top of La Liga once again. This loss is not a ordinary loss. How widespread its impact can be visible in the upcoming matches.
Yeah! maybe but Realmadrid isn’t by any chance pressured in Laliga, they are currently Cooked in LaLiga with so much point to coverup , not just Realmadrid is competing with them but Athletico Madrid as well, Athletico is currently taking the lead with 6 points ahead same goes with Realmadrid who are just 1 point behind Athletico… Realmadrid defence is just weak,same thing happened while they were playing against Athletico though it was a draw..
Hence, it seems we know who’s currently presssured even Athletic club is just 2 points behind them which means if they should fvck up one more time Athletic club might take over the third position… so it will be a tough journey to regain that spot.
At least for now there is a change made by Atletico and it is not wrong if in the end they spend more money in summer transfers this season because it is comparable to their current performance, especially some of the players they brought in such as Sorloth and Julian Alvarez even though they still cannot be said to be in their best performance but for the first season in terms of adaptation I think it is very good for them.
Currently Atletico only have to be able to continue to maintain such performance so that the situation remains favorable for them even though when compared to Madrid and Barcelona their probability is slightly smaller in the race for the trophy but at least as long as there is still a chance they only need to show that they are still able to compete in the race for the trophy this season by hoping that their triumphant season in La Liga 4 last season is repeated this season.
Atletico Madrid certainly is not too wasteful in terms of player transfers, they managed to buy players with good quality without spending too much money. Their level of play this season is much better than last season, some new players have certainly blended in with each other in the strategy implemented by Simeone. At the beginning of the season I was pessimistic about their strength this season but slowly they performed better and now Simeone's team is leading the standings. Currently Atletico only have to be able to continue to maintain such performance so that the situation remains favorable for them even though when compared to Madrid and Barcelona their probability is slightly smaller in the race for the trophy but at least as long as there is still a chance they only need to show that they are still able to compete in the race for the trophy this season by hoping that their triumphant season in La Liga 4 last season is repeated this season.
The difference in points with Real Madrid is certainly not far so Simeone must really be able to maintain or pressure his players to continue to perform better in every match they will play. In tomorrow's match Atletico Madrid is very superior because the opponent they face is experiencing bad luck so tomorrow's match is an opportunity for Atletico Madrid to get 3 points.
At this point, Real Madrid doesn't really need him, hence why he is not getting that many minutes, they have all the offensive stars they need, so there is no place for Endrick, same situation is going on with Arda Guler too, they are young future stars but not have place today in the team, which is fine because they are young and developing. In a few seasons I am sure that there will be some squad rotation, and when that happens these players will get themselves some more time, until then, they should just train and use all the minutes they get.
Endrick reminds me of Odegard after I studied Real Madrid's history recently. Endrick is a talented player but Endeick will have a hard time breaking into the Real Madrid first team. He will only be a player needed when Real Madrid are in a difficult situation in the match that is taking place at that time.He lost out to Rodrygo and Vinicius.
He will only suffer the same fate as Arda Guler at Real Madrid.
Real Madrid has a lot of players who operate like Endrick. Yes, you can see there are Rodrygo, Vinicius, Arda Guler and Kylan Mbappe. A role like Benzema is not there.
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If Athletico Madrid continues to perform well, they will be able to achieve their goals because, as I see it, this season is different for Athletico Madrid they have picked up form and are now challenging the top teams. Because even Barcelona, who is in superior shape, saw Athletico Madrid as an opportunity and defeated them. So I still believe Athletico should continue to perform well and win the title if they do not lose any league points. Let's watch how the La Liga win chart moves after 5 games and who will be at the top of the league, because we can't forecast anything right now because the gap is so close and anything can happen.
And they even tried this season because I did not expect athletico Madrid to come this far but since it has come to this level, then their chances have also increased in a way because everyone has a chance of winning the trophy, and when the season started, Barcelona was doing very okay and now they seem to be losing interest in the chase of the trophy, and both of them have been maintaining consistency and the only person that is falling behind is not more than real Madrid, and at this point, there is more to this season even if its boring.
Currently Atletico only have to be able to continue to maintain such performance so that the situation remains favorable for them even though when compared to Madrid and Barcelona their probability is slightly smaller in the race for the trophy but at least as long as there is still a chance they only need to show that they are still able to compete in the race for the trophy this season by hoping that their triumphant season in La Liga 4 last season is repeated this season.
Real and Atletico may have equal chances, but Barcelona is definitely out of place on this list. All these teams had difficult periods, but Barcelona had a series of games where they scored 5 points in 6 games, Real and Atletico did not have such a failure. Plus, look at the number of defeats - Atlético Madrid has 1, Real Madrid has 2, Barcelona has 5. One team is definitely superfluous here.
But this can still be a competition for Barcelona as long as they don't make any more mistakes where they draw or lose because it makes their team even more behind, honestly Barcelona is more ferocious against Madrid because they can score big scores but when in LaLiga they still struggle to win.Atletico can win until now in the top position but usually towards the end of the season they always have a setback where they lose and are overtaken by Madrid.
Look, Atletico has 44 points out of 57 possible, that's 77% of the points scored. Real has almost the same figure. It turns out that Atletico loses an average of 0.7 points per game, which means that if Barcelona plays with 100% results, it will need about 6/0.7 = 8.5 games to catch up with Atletico.
And we are talking about ideal conditions where Barcelona wins every game. Plus there is also Real, i.e. the chances are many times worse since, let's say, there is a 20% probability that Atletico will get into a crisis. If the race was only between Barcelona and Atletico, these chances would be quite significant, but there is also Real, so the combined probability that both clubs will get into a crisis is 0.2*0.2= 0.04. 5 times worse.
Atletico Madrid still has the opportunity to win the trophy because they are currently at the top of the league, but it will be difficult for them to win the title this season because Barcelona are in good form this season and Madrid are still trying to pick up form but not really doing well like other clubs in the competition this season. Barcelona and Athletico Madrid are the favorites to win the title because Ancelotti is facing serious problems in defense they are not organized anymore.
not only them because there is a lot of opportunity for them to win the trophy but since the season is still ongoing, there is no way that we can just make that decision because everything is even about to change now, Barcelona is only in good form when they have real Madrid to defeat but they might still find it very hard with other clubs Football is very dynamic and anything can happen, and there is no way that Athletico will just win, but am sure it is going to be between the three of them is either Madrid of or Barcelona this is making the game more intresting.
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If Athletico Madrid continues to perform well, they will be able to achieve their goals because, as I see it, this season is different for Athletico Madrid they have picked up form and are now challenging the top teams. Because even Barcelona, who is in superior shape, saw Athletico Madrid as an opportunity and defeated them. So I still believe Athletico should continue to perform well and win the title if they do not lose any league points. Let's watch how the La Liga win chart moves after 5 games and who will be at the top of the league, because we can't forecast anything right now because the gap is so close and anything can happen.
And they even tried this season because I did not expect athletico Madrid to come this far but since it has come to this level, then their chances have also increased in a way because everyone has a chance of winning the trophy, and when the season started, Barcelona was doing very okay and now they seem to be losing interest in the chase of the trophy, and both of them have been maintaining consistency and the only person that is falling behind is not more than real Madrid, and at this point, there is more to this season even if its boring.
Speed cannot always be relied on because a player's intelligence can be seen in how he places himself in a more appropriate position to score goals even though individual ability is also quite important because it makes the opponent's defense have trouble guarding him. Mbappe is getting better in La Liga because even though he is not completely solid, teamwork has begun to form well so that slowly Mbappe has shown his best skills. Chemistry does need to be improved again so that Real Madrid's strength becomes better and maybe it is necessary to recruit players who are positioned in the defense area so that they can be much stronger and more solid.
I'm very certain mbappe will make a good chemistry with his team players, he is just trying to get use to Laliga, I think it is not just easy for him like when he was in the French league.
Atletico Madrid is trying not to give up, who knows if they will be able to win this season
With the points difference still very thin, it is quite difficult to determine it now, we are in the middle of the season which is not easy to be consistent until the end. The standings especially the top 3 will still roll, if we talk about the probability at this time I think Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid and Barcelona have the same chance. Atletico is leading but with a capital of 1 point it is very uncomfortable. Real Madrid performance has not been consistent, sometimes even against teams below them they still have difficulty.Atletico can win until now in the top position but usually towards the end of the season they always have a setback where they lose and are overtaken by Madrid.
Atletico Madrid is trying not to give up, who knows if they will be able to win this season
With the points difference still very thin, it is quite difficult to determine it now, we are in the middle of the season which is not easy to be consistent until the end. The standings especially the top 3 will still roll, if we talk about the probability at this time I think Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid and Barcelona have the same chance. Atletico is leading but with a capital of 1 point it is very uncomfortable. Real Madrid performance has not been consistent, sometimes even against teams below them they still have difficulty.Atletico Madrid still has the opportunity to win the trophy because they are currently at the top of the league, but it will be difficult for them to win the title this season because Barcelona are in good form this season and Madrid are still trying to pick up form but not really doing well like other clubs in the competition this season. Barcelona and Athletico Madrid are the favorites to win the title because Ancelotti is facing serious problems in defense they are not organized anymore.
Definitely needs to fix their defense without a doubt, there is really no need to see this as a good result for them, beating Celta Vigo isn't really a success story, it so obvious that we are talking about something that is already obvious and not a big deal at all, so we shouldn't really see this as a big deal at all, they were bound to win this game anyways. But without a proper defense, their elite level offense isn't looking that great. Losing both Carvajal and Militao hurt them a lot, on top of that Alaba is out too, and when you miss three players like that, you are not going to be great at defense.
Sure when all of them gets back healthy, they will be fine, but they are gone for long term, meaning this season they need better defenders. Real Madrid is not the type of team that gets six months loan to save the season, those are things what small teams do, so Real Madrid will probably just buy players, and right now they are interested in Trent Alexandar Arnold, which would be a great deal for them without a doubt.
Sure when all of them gets back healthy, they will be fine, but they are gone for long term, meaning this season they need better defenders. Real Madrid is not the type of team that gets six months loan to save the season, those are things what small teams do, so Real Madrid will probably just buy players, and right now they are interested in Trent Alexandar Arnold, which would be a great deal for them without a doubt.
The defense line must be Real Madrid's main focus for this season and next season. Recruiting young and quality players is a step that Real Madrid always takes for long-term projects. For the middle of this season, I don't see Real Madrid being ambitious enough to be able to deepen their squad. They are indeed interested in TAA, but until now there has been no agreement, and Real Madrid prefers to wait until TAA's contract with Liverpool ends.
In the middle of this season, I only see one name joining Real Madrid. Joel Pleguezuelos, is a player who has just been brought in by Real Madrid. The 18-year-old player who plays as a center back is indeed not included in Real Madrid's main squad, but he will play in Real Madrid's youth squad. However, even so, this shows that Real Madrid is serious enough to be able to develop young talents. and seeing Joel Pleguezuelos' good performance, it seems like he is a promising player for the future of the club's back line.
Real Madrid clearly desperately needs reinforcements in their defense, as a response to the long-term injuries suffered by Carvajal and Eder Militao. The match against Celta Vigo indicated that Real Madrid management should take swift action to recruit new players. Trent Alexander Arnold from Liverpool would certainly be a suitable choice, he is still young and possesses above average individual skills. William Saliba is also on Real Madrid radar, but recruiting both players in this January transfer window will certainly not be easy.
Wing back is not the main option that must be hastened Real Madrid but what must be hastened is the position of CB. The match against Celta Vigo is an example that CB's position is very necessary even though Raul Asencio can be relied upon but there is still minimal experience.
Trent Alexander Arnold is suitable if in a Real Madrid uniform because he can be played as a midfielder if Vasquez is in a fit condition.
Wiliam Saliba. That's a good name. If he is fixed, many players have come from France who fill the Real Madrid line up.
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