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Quote from: Harkorede on July 25, 2022, 09:22:42 PM

It's not going to happen, neither I do want him to return, It gives Barcelona the room to continue too build another era of your players. If Messi ever come back to Barcelona, it's probably going to be as coach or part of the board directors (I doubt he likes the board much anyways) but not as football player, the only problem is that he has just a year left of his deal with PSG summer 2023, he might move to England or perhaps go to South America leagues, If he has an incredible season then maybe PSG would offer an extension of the deal.

I'm just sure Messi will return to Barcelona not as a player but more likely as a coach or whatever. He may be able to join for free next season but only if he is willing to cut some of his hefty salary I doubt about that actually so there is little chance of seeing him as a Barcelona player again next season or the next.

PSG probably won't let him leave for free at the end of next season and it's possible that Messi will get another year on his contract before the end of this season. He looks more comfortable now at PSG and as we can see, Messi has also managed to score a few goals during this pre-season.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on July 26, 2022, 12:02:47 AM

I think this rumor is related to Xavi's desire to bring Messi back to Camp Nou, Messi is a living legend for Barcelona, the bond between Messi and Xavi is very strong. Xavi's wishes were conveyed to club president Joan Larpota.

Regarding this, I think it is not only financial problems that are an obstacle for Barcelona, but it will be difficult to bring Messi to Camp Nou.
messi and barcelona relationship is not very good after the departure of messi last year, i am very interested in the continued development of this rumour.

Some time ago Xavi had expressed his desire to bring Messi back to the Camp Nou, but that desire will not happen this season. Barcelona must wait until Messi's contract with PSG is finished in order to bring Messi home. It does not make sense that Barcelona should buy Messi from PSG, because when Messi went to PSG on a free transfer. The bond between Barcelona and Messi is still very strong, sooner or later Messi will return to Barcelona.

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Quote from: 1kodumtek7 on July 26, 2022, 03:39:16 AM

There is an interesting situation right now. I have heard that Chelsea are preventing Barcelona from signing Marcos Alonso and Cesar Azpilicueta both. Because Barcelona also are going for Jules Kounde now. If Barcelona sign Kounde it looks like they will need to find new targets for left-back and right-back positions. Chelsea have been really unlucky with Barcelona so far. Barcelona can sign Kounde and cause Chelsea to be disappointed and frustrated again.

By what means did Chelsea prevent Barcelona from signing Marcos Alonso and Cesar Azpilicueta both? It seems even more intense the hunt for new players for every club at this point if any club makes a precaution like you say. In addition, Chelsea have also agreed with the Kounde price set by Sevilla. Then will Chelsea fail to get Kounde when Chelsea know that Barcelona are also after Kounde?

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Quote from: Harkorede on July 25, 2022, 09:22:42 PM

It's not going to happen, neither I do want him to return, It gives Barcelona the room to continue too build another era of your players. If Messi ever come back to Barcelona, it's probably going to be as coach or part of the board directors (I doubt he likes the board much anyways) but not as football player, the only problem is that he has just a year left of his deal with PSG summer 2023, he might move to England or perhaps go to South America leagues, If he has an incredible season then maybe PSG would offer an extension of the deal.

Now with the age factor both legendary players are having troubles for searching new clubs because Messi and Ronaldo both have two years contract which are going to end after this season with this search is already happening for their future with most chances Messi will be in South America and Ronaldo could be in Sporting Lisbon because they have very few choices but surely one thing can give these both players a good chance and it's incredible form in current season because with this these both could be in limelight and many clubs will be able to sign them for one or two years contract.

Now we have to watch their recent form and quality, can they bring good days back, or they have to stay under their limits.

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Quote from: mia_houston on July 26, 2022, 01:32:52 AM

Messi is back?
If that could happen of course barcelona would be the perfect club but I think it will be difficult for Xavi to arrange 3 great strikers in their front line later, because admitting it or not for sure these three players have the ego to be special or want to stay in the barcelona front line, I think the salary issue will indeed be a bit of a problem because Barcelona financial condition is unstable, but of course before Barcelona and the player sign a contract, there will be a mutual agreement regarding the amount of salary that will be received.

I think for now Messi will not return to Barcelona. Because Messi is very comfortable at PSG so there is no need to return to Barcelona and so far Xavi has also not looked at Messi again for the Barcelona line of players. And I agree more with what you said about having the ego to be special between the three players. Because for the issue of salary each player can agree on it from the start before joining, but as for being special at the club, I don't think it can be agreed.

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There is an interesting situation right now. I have heard that Chelsea are preventing Barcelona from signing Marcos Alonso and Cesar Azpilicueta both. Because Barcelona also are going for Jules Kounde now. If Barcelona sign Kounde it looks like they will need to find new targets for left-back and right-back positions. Chelsea have been really unlucky with Barcelona so far. Barcelona can sign Kounde and cause Chelsea to be disappointed and frustrated again.

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Quote from: Alanaz on July 26, 2022, 01:00:45 AM

Quote from: rahmad2nd on July 26, 2022, 12:02:47 AM

I think this rumor is related to Xavi's desire to bring Messi back to Camp Nou, Messi is a living legend for Barcelona, the bond between Messi and Xavi is very strong. Xavi's wishes were conveyed to club president Joan Larpota.

Regarding this, I think it is not only financial problems that are an obstacle for Barcelona, but it will be difficult to bring Messi to Camp Nou.
messi and barcelona relationship is not very good after the departure of messi last year, i am very interested in the continued development of this rumour.

If indeed this will happen. Messi, Lewandowski, Raphinha and Auba. Sounds like the avenger club but don't they think about the salary?
Sounds cliché but we still know that their main problem is still rooted in salary which could throw them upside down.
Indeed, in this case, it would be great if they could still be realistic and not push too hard.

sound like trump-up rumors, 2 name first, Messi and Lewa are impossible to Camp Nou, because of financial problem like you said, but if we talk about Raphinha, it is happen because Barcelona is his dream. We know Chelsea is also interesting to bring him, with 70 million euro but Barcelona deals only 58 euro with a bonus, which means Barcelona still have the charm to bring another player even with a low budget. but it's a different case with mess and Lewa, both still want to high salary, Barcelona must think twice to bring them,

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Quote from: hahay on July 26, 2022, 01:42:36 AM

Xavi only wants and conveys about Messi retiring at Barcelona and that means, Xavi is not in a hurry to sign Messi. After all, Barcelona can wait until Messi's contract runs out at PSG but even then if PSG don't renew his contract. But then at least Xavi has conveyed his wish and hopefully it will come true, doesn't mean Xavi wants it in the current transfer window. Also, about the relationship between Messi and Barcelona will certainly be well maintained, how can you assume the relationship between the two is not good, that is a very inaccurate assumption.

Now it looks like apart from his performance Indeed the name Messi has also definitely boosted the name of Barcelona to become a club that does have more resources there but as you said they will not be able to bring him at this time because of Messi's price and salary which is still difficult to get. they can make it happen this season.
They can still be with Messi if his contract expires but this may also be a bit difficult because even though Messi is quite old, his popularity is still needed.

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Quote from: mia_houston on July 26, 2022, 01:32:52 AM

Quote from: Alanaz on July 26, 2022, 01:00:45 AM

Quote from: rahmad2nd on July 26, 2022, 12:02:47 AM

I think this rumor is related to Xavi's desire to bring Messi back to Camp Nou, Messi is a living legend for Barcelona, the bond between Messi and Xavi is very strong. Xavi's wishes were conveyed to club president Joan Larpota.

Regarding this, I think it is not only financial problems that are an obstacle for Barcelona, but it will be difficult to bring Messi to Camp Nou.
messi and barcelona relationship is not very good after the departure of messi last year, i am very interested in the continued development of this rumour.

If indeed this will happen. Messi, Lewandowski, Raphinha and Auba. Sounds like the avenger club but don't they think about the salary?
Sounds cliché but we still know that their main problem is still rooted in salary which could throw them upside down.
Indeed, in this case, it would be great if they could still be realistic and not push too hard.

Messi is back?
If that could happen of course barcelona would be the perfect club but I think it will be difficult for Xavi to arrange 3 great strikers in their front line later, because admitting it or not for sure these three players have the ego to be special or want to stay in the barcelona front line, I think the salary issue will indeed be a bit of a problem because Barcelona financial condition is unstable, but of course before Barcelona and the player sign a contract, there will be a mutual agreement regarding the amount of salary that will be received.

Xavi only wants and conveys about Messi retiring at Barcelona and that means, Xavi is not in a hurry to sign Messi. After all, Barcelona can wait until Messi's contract runs out at PSG but even then if PSG don't renew his contract. But then at least Xavi has conveyed his wish and hopefully it will come true, doesn't mean Xavi wants it in the current transfer window. Also, about the relationship between Messi and Barcelona will certainly be well maintained, how can you assume the relationship between the two is not good, that is a very inaccurate assumption.

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Quote from: Alanaz on July 26, 2022, 01:00:45 AM

Quote from: rahmad2nd on July 26, 2022, 12:02:47 AM

I think this rumor is related to Xavi's desire to bring Messi back to Camp Nou, Messi is a living legend for Barcelona, the bond between Messi and Xavi is very strong. Xavi's wishes were conveyed to club president Joan Larpota.

Regarding this, I think it is not only financial problems that are an obstacle for Barcelona, but it will be difficult to bring Messi to Camp Nou.
messi and barcelona relationship is not very good after the departure of messi last year, i am very interested in the continued development of this rumour.

If indeed this will happen. Messi, Lewandowski, Raphinha and Auba. Sounds like the avenger club but don't they think about the salary?
Sounds cliché but we still know that their main problem is still rooted in salary which could throw them upside down.
Indeed, in this case, it would be great if they could still be realistic and not push too hard.

Messi is back?
If that could happen of course barcelona would be the perfect club but I think it will be difficult for Xavi to arrange 3 great strikers in their front line later, because admitting it or not for sure these three players have the ego to be special or want to stay in the barcelona front line, I think the salary issue will indeed be a bit of a problem because Barcelona financial condition is unstable, but of course before Barcelona and the player sign a contract, there will be a mutual agreement regarding the amount of salary that will be received.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on July 26, 2022, 12:02:47 AM

I think this rumor is related to Xavi's desire to bring Messi back to Camp Nou, Messi is a living legend for Barcelona, the bond between Messi and Xavi is very strong. Xavi's wishes were conveyed to club president Joan Larpota.

Regarding this, I think it is not only financial problems that are an obstacle for Barcelona, but it will be difficult to bring Messi to Camp Nou.
messi and barcelona relationship is not very good after the departure of messi last year, i am very interested in the continued development of this rumour.

If indeed this will happen. Messi, Lewandowski, Raphinha and Auba. Sounds like the avenger club but don't they think about the salary?
Sounds cliché but we still know that their main problem is still rooted in salary which could throw them upside down.
Indeed, in this case, it would be great if they could still be realistic and not push too hard.

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I think this rumor is related to Xavi's desire to bring Messi back to Camp Nou, Messi is a living legend for Barcelona, the bond between Messi and Xavi is very strong. Xavi's wishes were conveyed to club president Joan Larpota.

Regarding this, I think it is not only financial problems that are an obstacle for Barcelona, but it will be difficult to bring Messi to Camp Nou.
messi and barcelona relationship is not very good after the departure of messi last year, i am very interested in the continued development of this rumour.

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The rumours about Messi to return to Barcelona doesn't reflect the reality for me. Because there is no way Barcelona are meeting his demands after these transfers and being in such a bad financial condition. They should just stop making things worse for themselves. Laporta just leaved the door open for Messi by making a statement but I hope that they don't make a move and mess up things more. Barcelona's current squad is good enough to be able to do nice things.

I agree with you, because Barcelona coach has signed in some potential players that have more strength and energy to play full game without getting tire until they achieve victory at the end of the match. I don't think, Barcelona need Messi before they can achieve next season title because the new young talented players they signed in into the team are very good to help the team to stand well in this season. It will be difficult for Barcelona to miss next season title, because all those new talented squads are fully ready to introduce more tactics that will make the team to go far in many competitions.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on July 25, 2022, 03:41:42 PM

The rumours about Messi to return to Barcelona doesn't reflect the reality for me. Because there is no way Barcelona are meeting his demands after these transfers and being in such a bad financial condition. They should just stop making things worse for themselves. Laporta just leaved the door open for Messi by making a statement but I hope that they don't make a move and mess up things more. Barcelona's current squad is good enough to be able to do nice things.

It's not going to happen, neither I do want him to return, It gives Barcelona the room to continue too build another era of your players. If Messi ever come back to Barcelona, it's probably going to be as coach or part of the board directors (I doubt he likes the board much anyways) but not as football player, the only problem is that he has just a year left of his deal with PSG summer 2023, he might move to England or perhaps go to South America leagues, If he has an incredible season then maybe PSG would offer an extension of the deal.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on July 25, 2022, 10:38:10 AM

Just look at this! Barcelona are really close to stealing Jules Kounde as well from Chelsea's hands. Cheesy

Fabrizio Romano said that the player is likely to be prepared to agree personal terms with Barcelona. There is still no update about the Chelsea side. It is just really difficult to understand how this can happen. I mean that Barcelona have like an unlimited amount of money at the moment. I guess that they will sign him for a price like €50-60m. Their financial condition is getting worse while adding strong players to the team.

Barce will be facing financial fair play if this team didn't tried to sell some of its players. I was also getting surprised to see that happens with kounde that being hijacked by barcelona. I heard that if barcelona still owes salary from some of its players like de jong.
That's also the reason why de jong didn't wanna to leave the team. The funds that used to bought the players must become a very interesting topic to be talked.
It seems barcelona has unlimited money. Cheesy

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on July 25, 2022, 03:41:42 PM

The rumours about Messi to return to Barcelona doesn't reflect the reality for me. Because there is no way Barcelona are meeting his demands after these transfers and being in such a bad financial condition. They should just stop making things worse for themselves. Laporta just leaved the door open for Messi by making a statement but I hope that they don't make a move and mess up things more. Barcelona's current squad is good enough to be able to do nice things.

I hope people don't misunderstand what Joan Laporta said. because Joan Laporta intends to again seduce Messi to return when Messi's contract with PSG ends. and now messi still has 1 year contract left with PSG.
if for now then barcelona is not possible to bring back messi. apart from financial problems. but also because of messi's contract that still has 1 year remaining with PSG. But we don't know for next year. maybe next year Barcelona's financial problems will improve. so that when Messi's contract with PSG ends, Barcelona can immediately make a high bid to get Messi back.

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Quote from: Balmain on July 22, 2022, 01:27:21 PM

I think there is no question about his age, he is still very athletic and has high mobility. As long as he stays at Manchester united, the champions league will be a dream for him. He seems restless because he didn't have the competition he wanted in Manchester united, maybe there might even be a few players he couldn't get along with.

Agree. Although he is 37 years old, he has no problem with his fitness and even he still has a big ambition to win any prestigious titles.
Sure, he won't have a chance to play in UCL and win trophies if he decides to stay with Man United. Man United players aren't competitive enough and can't play as a solid team. It is true that some players can't cooperate as teammates, they are too egoistic and think they can do better. I saw many times that Ronaldo cannot get the opportunity to be a penalty kicker or given a chance to execute a free kick. As the result, some of them failed to execute both the penalty and free kick. According to this reason, I can understand why Ronaldo really wants to leave.

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Am I the only one who cannot get his head around this transfer? In my opinion, Barcelona brought in a player who will perform well and for a long time at the club, it's Raphinha. But I really don't understand how Barcelona is managing to get this money and I also don't understand how they are able to manage their finances going forward. And why does it feel like Barcelona is not worried about their finances at all?

Already they signed Raphinha, Robert Lewandowski, Franck Kessié, Andreas Christensen. And I really hope that they don't make any big transfers like this soon. Now they should concentrate on selling the players that are not very critical to the squad right now.

At first I was quite surprised also because Barca could afford some players who had quite expensive prices. But what I know is that Barca have been doing financial structuring, by selling the broadcasting rights for longer.
In addition, they actually still have player salary debts. For example, regarding De Jong's salary. At the beginning of the difficulty they offered a pay cut that was ready to be paid in 2023. And it looks like it's this issue that makes negotiations with Man United difficult because they have to pay for barca's claustrophobic.

Barcelona is now starting to bring in a lot of quality players even though their are still in financial problems but they are still an attraction for great players, not only you, all of us here are quite surprised by the situation of Barcelona which continues to bring in star players with the condition of the club still being wrapped up in a lot of trouble. debt, even now it is reported that they will be one step away from getting kounde from sevilla as their fifth new player, speaking of the transfers de jong saga, I think there will still be drama for a long time because between de jong and barcelona have different views on the issue his salary and career current, if de jong wants to take a salary cut of more than 40% then Barcelona will not sell de jong, but if de jong continues to want his current salary then Barcelona will have to let de jong go to make room for the new players.

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Quote from: nurilham on July 25, 2022, 04:55:48 PM

Gosh! Why does Barcelona always steal expected players to sign by Chelsea? ......snip

I don't know Why Barcelona becomes very active in this transfer window. They even don't doubt if signing too many players will cause a problem on players' salaries then. Myabe Barcelona gets big sponsorships that want to give them a huge amount of money.

It's true that Chelsea always loses in getting players in the transfer window because at this time it was Chelsea who was rumored before but Barcelona is now getting more and more with a personal proposal for Kounde.
Like his Barceloan never thought about his financial crisis.

No doubt, Barcelona's activity during this transfer window is very active. They are very sure that they can be out of the financial crisis because right now, they may be able to get more sponsorship from big payers brought, from ticket sales, and also other possibilities, In this case, why should players that are closed to Chelsea? I don't know if there is the certain intention or not by Barcelona to stop Chelsea. But at least, the players that they want are good players, of course, they are willing to have them. Moreover, Barcelona's intention to the public right now is getting better and better, they may be considered to come back again this season. That is why it may be easier to attract more players to choose Barcelona.
This very active activity may be dangerous also for them. We still remember how Barcelona have the crisis of financial, one of the reasons is becuase of so many player purcahses but not really significant.

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Quote from: baeva on July 25, 2022, 04:06:21 PM

Quote from: Pulsar77 on July 25, 2022, 03:41:42 PM

The rumours about Messi to return to Barcelona doesn't reflect the reality for me. Because there is no way Barcelona are meeting his demands after these transfers and being in such a bad financial condition. They should just stop making things worse for themselves. Laporta just leaved the door open for Messi by making a statement but I hope that they don't make a move and mess up things more. Barcelona's current squad is good enough to be able to do nice things.

What do you mean? Messi's return won't be too bad for the team I think, but only if their financial situation improves, even if it's a year from now. I think Leo himself would very much like to finish his career at Barcelona, probably why the door to this team is not closed to him. And in principle he has a pretty good relationship with the management and the team

the current coach of barcelona is building a team where they don't just depend on a single player to be successful, so why would they take messi back? does not make sense. on the other hand messi is at PSG and they are counting on him, when he moved to PSG he should have already imagined that he can finish his career at PS, he is not young enough to change teams, he needs to be aware that he has to be on a team until you retire

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Barcelona are likely to keep Frenkie de Jong in the team now. However there are so many midfielders in the squad at the same time. I don't know whether they are thinking of finding a solution for this. Having too many alternatives in the team can cause some of those players to get really sad in time. This would cause serious in-team problems. I hope that Xavi has plans about this topic and they can sell some players while buying too.

On the other hand I heard that Barcelona will cut Frenkie de Jong's salary. It would be tough for the players in my opinion if the situation was like this, unless De Jong was willing and preferred loyalty to Barcelona. We know that Barcelona's spending in this transfer market is quite expensive, because their financial situation is also not good. Let's wait for the final decision of this player.

This might affect his decision then. However there is another fact that can be really important for Frenkie de Jong. Barcelona are in the Champions League while Manchester United aren't. Therefore maybe Frenkie de Jong would rather stay and play in the biggest tournament. In the end Frenkie de Jong hasn't had any special desire to leave the team so far. Manchester United might need to prepare a contract that is too hard to reject for him to be able to convince him but it still looks difficult.

the question is if he will constantly play in barcelona and how will his salary be in barcelona, these are two points that make a player leave a team

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