La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 3446.

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Quote from: Sirait on July 03, 2022, 06:56:10 PM

Quote from: emrecemsan on July 03, 2022, 04:02:43 PM

I have also started growing doubts about the Frenkie de Jong deal. He started being likely to stay which would be for the benefit of Barcelona. If there are really issues with his wage they can solve this problem one way or another. Barcelona shouldn't lose one of their crucial players this easy while they are broke. They should just focus on not losing an important player and improving the current quality of the squad. Manchester United might be unsuccessful about their attempt as a result.

MU has money while barca is currently struggling with money, from the start frenkie did not show much interest in MU, even he personally told barca management to be able to defend himself because his love for barca was very big. but frenkie de jong honestly said that the only thing he doesn't like at barca is his salary.

Frenkie de Jong is now 25 years old. He is a very talented midfielder, he has done very well with Barcelona in the last few seasons. And now several big teams are interested in taking Frenkie de Jong on the team. And so Barcelona should have increased de Jong's wages a bit. Since Barcelona is in financial trouble and de Jong's wages increase is not possible for them. So de Jong should look for new teams now.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on July 03, 2022, 04:02:43 PM

I have also started growing doubts about the Frenkie de Jong deal. He started being likely to stay which would be for the benefit of Barcelona. If there are really issues with his wage they can solve this problem one way or another. Barcelona shouldn't lose one of their crucial players this easy while they are broke. They should just focus on not losing an important player and improving the current quality of the squad. Manchester United might be unsuccessful about their attempt as a result.

MU has money while barca is currently struggling with money, from the start frenkie did not show much interest in MU, even he personally told barca management to be able to defend himself because his love for barca was very big. but frenkie de jong honestly said that the only thing he doesn't like at barca is his salary.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on July 03, 2022, 06:41:09 PM

Quote from: baeva on July 03, 2022, 01:56:37 PM

In that case it's much more sensible to sign Robert, I can't say he will be more useful than Raphinha, but it's a much easier fight here because not many clubs are running for Lewandowski. Who knows though, maybe they will sign both players?(Although in that case they will have big problems with finances, although even now things are bad). After all, they sold de Jong for 65 million, what's the problem with buying Lewandowski with the proceeds? There will even be 5 million left over.

Actually there is nothing certain about the Frenkie de Jong deal yet. They are just said to have agreed upon that fee for now. But after that Laporta said that they didn't want to sell him and were trying to make him stay as well. He said that de Jong was happy about playing for them. In this case Manchester United 's job will be difficult for sure.

they just need a good offer since De Jong already said that he'd like to play for them and didn't sign a lot of players since they already have a fair team of players and Frankie de Jong would add a lot from their midfield so man utd should try hard to get him and I believe they would.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on July 03, 2022, 11:21:39 AM

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It is still vague whether Barcelona are going to be able to complete the agreement with Bayern Munich for Lewandowski. Like you people said Bayern Munich have already rejected Barcelona's third offer too. This must be really annoying for Barcelona as they would like to finish the deal as soon as possible. However it doesn't seem like this process is affecting them negatively right now too. Because they are going for their other targets like Raphinha on one hand.

I think barcelona will still try to get him because at this club they get a very large injection of funds so it will be very capable if they take Robert Lewandowski, from a player perspective he is very accepting and wants to go to barcelona, currently only Bayern Munich is making it difficult to let him go because I think it's very natural that when he loses a very professional player as a main striker it will be difficult to find a player like this again.

Barcelona is actually trying really hard to get this player but I really don’t know if they will be able to get him. Bayern Munich really does not want to let this player go for anything less than 50 million euro. And Barcelona really cannot afford to give that much money for an old player.

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Quote from: Zlantann on July 03, 2022, 06:05:00 PM

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Actually, not much depends on Barcelona at the moment. What matters most is what decision Bayern Munich will make. Lewandowski has a contract for another year, so I suspect that it is either a huge contract for Lewandowski for him, or ,

Barcelona have not been able to raise the 50-million euros Bayern Munich is asking for the release of the prolific striker. And Robert Lewandowski has made it clear that he want leave Bayern for Barcelona. It would be better Bayern Munich accepts an installment payment of the price tag from Barcelona instead of insisting on a one time payment. This because even if they force Lewandowski to remain in the club till the end of next season, they might not get the best from him. It seems Barcelona manager Xavi is loved by most players because majority of his target signings this season are insisting to move to Barça by all means.

Xavi has transformed the troubled Barcelona team into a strong team in a very short time. I think players like Xavi very much because of this ability of Xavi. And Xavi is capable of winning any title if he gets a bunch of talented and experienced players. Xavi has this capability, although it has not been proven yet. Xavi should take Lewandowski to the team by any means. With Lewandowski in the squad, Barcelona will rule La Liga next season.

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Quote from: Erdogan on July 03, 2022, 05:41:45 PM

Actually, not much depends on Barcelona at the moment. What matters most is what decision Bayern Munich will make. Lewandowski has a contract for another year, so I suspect that it is either a huge contract for Lewandowski for him, or ,

I think it's still Barcelona's decision as well because the problem is money here. When they are ready to give Bayern the Clause they want then there will be no problem when the price set by Bayern is agreed.
But what makes it difficult is that Barcelona want Lewandowski but on the other hand they don't have that kind of money to buy because they are still in poor condition.

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Quote from: baeva on July 03, 2022, 01:56:37 PM

In that case it's much more sensible to sign Robert, I can't say he will be more useful than Raphinha, but it's a much easier fight here because not many clubs are running for Lewandowski. Who knows though, maybe they will sign both players?(Although in that case they will have big problems with finances, although even now things are bad). After all, they sold de Jong for 65 million, what's the problem with buying Lewandowski with the proceeds? There will even be 5 million left over.

Actually there is nothing certain about the Frenkie de Jong deal yet. They are just said to have agreed upon that fee for now. But after that Laporta said that they didn't want to sell him and were trying to make him stay as well. He said that de Jong was happy about playing for them. In this case Manchester United's job will be difficult for sure.

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Quote from: blackened515 on July 03, 2022, 01:26:20 AM

Monza are opening talks with Òscar Mingueza to sign him this summer, Barcelona are not holding down the bid but will allow him leave only if the player is willingly to exit the club following the financial crash issues. The catalans will let go some of their players in the window in other to raise funds to stabilize the team from pending debts. Monza to Seria A league is one big news for the newly promoted side. However the Seria A League in the past season have been unpredictable ever since Inter Milan beat Juventus to lift the Seria A Title.

Don't know if it is going to be the best decision for Barcelona if they let this player go. he is a 23 years old defender and right now Barcelona needs to have better performance, especially on the defensive side. Since he is only 23 years old so he has a lot of time ahead of him. he has a lot of potential and right now Barcelona is not doing very well in terms of financial situation.

I don't think Barcelona is going to make a lot of money by selling this player and that's why they should hold on to this player. Barcelona is making a lot of bad decisions in recent times, if they let this player go it will be one of them. but so far I like what Barcelona have said. as far as I know, Barcelona stated that they are not willing to let this player go unless this player is going to leave the club willingly.

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Quote from: Zlantann on July 03, 2022, 06:05:00 PM

Quote from: Erdogan on July 03, 2022, 05:41:45 PM

Actually, not much depends on Barcelona at the moment. What matters most is what decision Bayern Munich will make. Lewandowski has a contract for another year, so I suspect that it is either a huge contract for Lewandowski for him, or ,

Barcelona have not been able to raise the 50-million euros Bayern Munich is asking for the release of the prolific striker. And Robert Lewandowski has made it clear that he want leave Bayern for Barcelona. It would be better Bayern Munich accepts an installment payment of the price tag from Barcelona instead of insisting on a one time payment. This because even if they force Lewandowski to remain in the club till the end of next season, they might not get the best from him. It seems Barcelona manager Xavi is loved by most players because majority of his target signings this season are insisting to move to Barça by all means.

Actually Bayern did try to prevent Lewandowski from moving to Barcelona, even though Bayern had already got Sadio Mane, it looks like Bayern
are not willing to lose Lewandowski. Therefore Bayern put a very high price if Barcelona wanted to buy Lewandowski, Barcelona which has
unstable finances, of course objected to the price that Bayern wanted. After all, Lewandowski's contract is only one year away, and also Lewandowski's
age who is 33 years old makes Barcelona object to buying Lewandowski at a price that is too expensive. Negotiations are still ongoing, I hope
Bayern's management can allow Lewandowski to leave, because it is not a good thing to force players who have no desire to play at Bayern anymore.
What happens next is that Lewandowski's performance will be much lower, because he is not happy.

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Quote from: Erdogan on July 03, 2022, 05:41:45 PM

Actually, not much depends on Barcelona at the moment. What matters most is what decision Bayern Munich will make. Lewandowski has a contract for another year, so I suspect that it is either a huge contract for Lewandowski for him, or ,

Barcelona have not been able to raise the 50-million euros Bayern Munich is asking for the release of the prolific striker. And Robert Lewandowski has made it clear that he want leave Bayern for Barcelona. It would be better Bayern Munich accepts an installment payment of the price tag from Barcelona instead of insisting on a one time payment. This because even if they force Lewandowski to remain in the club till the end of next season, they might not get the best from him. It seems Barcelona manager Xavi is loved by most players because majority of his target signings this season are insisting to move to Barça by all means.

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Quote from: BALIK on July 03, 2022, 05:30:19 PM

At the moment Barcelona does not want to sell Frenkie de Jong. Frenkie de Jong has adapted very well to Barcelona's match strategy. But Barcelona needs money. If Barcelona wants to sign Lewandowski, they will have to sell de Jong to finance them. I look forward to seeing what Xavi decides to sell to this talented midfielder

Actually, not much depends on Barcelona at the moment. What matters most is what decision Bayern Munich will make. Lewandowski has a contract for another year, so I suspect that it is either a huge contract for Lewandowski for him, or ,

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It seems that De Jong is still going to stay with Barcelona. Strange, because they can use that money they could get for him. I think Manchester United would eventually be willing to pay around €90 million. Then they are still in debt, but you can pay off a lot of things. De Jong would now even receive a salary reduction. Apparently Xavi sees a great future for de Jong, because he has not played very well in recent seasons. real madrid will look at it all with laughter, they have a strong squad and I don't expect many players to leave there either. Especially Benzema should stay.

De jong bid with Manchester United have become a lengthy one because it had lasted for weeks and still yet, no confirmation have been concord not even the player personal Terms have been meet. Barcelona boss, Xavi might keep Frankie till next season if united fail to win hik over. The main problem I'm seeing in the deal is that Frankie De Jong wants to be featured in the champions league games next season rather than European league games.

Actually, this can't be called a failure either because there hasn't been any statement from either side indicating that the talks are still ongoing.
But in this case, I'm actually quite sure that Manchester United can bring De Jong even though it still takes time now, but with Barcelona's current condition I'm pretty sure that sooner or later De Jong will wear the uniform of MU next season.

At the moment Barcelona does not want to sell Frenkie de Jong. Frenkie de Jong has adapted very well to Barcelona's match strategy. But Barcelona needs money. If Barcelona wants to sign Lewandowski, they will have to sell de Jong to finance them. I look forward to seeing what Xavi decides to sell to this talented midfielder

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on July 03, 2022, 01:57:37 PM

It seems that De Jong is still going to stay with Barcelona. Strange, because they can use that money they could get for him. I think Manchester United would eventually be willing to pay around €90 million. Then they are still in debt, but you can pay off a lot of things. De Jong would now even receive a salary reduction. Apparently Xavi sees a great future for de Jong, because he has not played very well in recent seasons. real madrid will look at it all with laughter, they have a strong squad and I don't expect many players to leave there either. Especially Benzema should stay.

De jong bid with Manchester United have become a lengthy one because it had lasted for weeks and still yet, no confirmation have been concord not even the player personal Terms have been meet. Barcelona boss, Xavi might keep Frankie till next season if united fail to win hik over. The main problem I'm seeing in the deal is that Frankie De Jong wants to be featured in the champions league games next season rather than European league games.

Actually, this can't be called a failure either because there hasn't been any statement from either side indicating that the talks are still ongoing.
But in this case, I'm actually quite sure that Manchester United can bring De Jong even though it still takes time now, but with Barcelona's current condition I'm pretty sure that sooner or later De Jong will wear the uniform of MU next season.

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Quote from: Luzin on July 03, 2022, 03:55:27 PM

Of course this makes Man United even more crazy, this is because Ten Hag really wants him to be at Man United. I also saw the news on TV that he was actually comfortable in Barcelona. Laporta's statement may be reality or just Barcelona's way of making more money.

Barcelona expects him to stay, Laporta clearly stated it. If Barcelona really wants to make money by selling him, they won't make a complicated negotiation with Man United. I guess Ten Hag will fail to sign Frenkie De Jong, Laporta's statement indicates that Barcelona won't lower Frenkie's price, even possibly increasing it. I think it is time to end the negotiation with Barcelona and try to look for an alternative. Ten Hag still has enough time to look for another top midfielder.

Quote from: Luzin on July 03, 2022, 03:55:27 PM

In addition they also want to buy Lewandoski and this purchase could fail if De Jong remained at Barcelona.

Yes, Barcelona seems to fail signing Lewandowski since they have no money. But they don't really need a new striker since they have Aubameyang and Depay, 2 top strikers are enough for Barcelona attacking line.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on July 03, 2022, 11:21:39 AM

I think barcelona will still try to get him because at this club they get a very large injection of funds so it will be very capable if they take Robert Lewandowski, from a player perspective he is very accepting and wants to go to barcelona, currently only Bayern Munich is making it difficult to let him go because I think it's very natural that when he loses a very professional player as a main striker it will be difficult to find a player like this again.

How would they get a big injection of funds if they get Lewandowski? Jersey sales? I really doubt the the cost would be lower than the profits. I believe that the best thing we could have right now would be no lewandowski at all, keep Aubameyang, and then run it another year with the same season.

It will not be easy, it will take a while for them to get a championship and they could end up barely in top 4 this season as well if things do not go according to the plan. But, they would be making a profit and they would be able to remove some of that debt and would be able to get some financial freedom to do better next season which is what they should do instead of going worse.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on July 03, 2022, 04:02:43 PM

I have also started growing doubts about the Frenkie de Jong deal. He started being likely to stay which would be for the benefit of Barcelona. If there are really issues with his wage they can solve this problem one way or another. Barcelona shouldn't lose one of their crucial players this easy while they are broke. They should just focus on not losing an important player and improving the current quality of the squad. Manchester United might be unsuccessful about their attempt as a result.

Manchester United wants him to strengthen their midfield after selling some of their midfielders, including Pogba, while Barcelona wanted to sell him due to a misunderstanding, which I believe has been resolved, and now Barcelona wants to keep him. United's best bet is to make another bid for a midfielder.

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I have also started growing doubts about the Frenkie de Jong deal. He started being likely to stay which would be for the benefit of Barcelona. If there are really issues with his wage they can solve this problem one way or another. Barcelona shouldn't lose one of their crucial players this easy while they are broke. They should just focus on not losing an important player and improving the current quality of the squad. Manchester United might be unsuccessful about their attempt as a result.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on July 03, 2022, 02:42:02 PM

In this financial condition their job might be a little difficult but they should do their best not to lose strength in the end. There are so many news all around like he will still leave but it depends on how Barcelona will act as of now.

The player are pleased to staying in Barcelona and both Xavi and Laporta favouring him to stay since Frenkie did quite match Xavi's expectations, it would be a loss for all of them if they didn't make an agreement, and another way of mismanagement from the club, back then it was Messi, now it could be Frenkie. If all parties acknowledge the financial issues, and its effect on solely their own side, I'm positive that Frenkie will stay.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on July 03, 2022, 02:42:02 PM

I see that Barcelona president Laporta has already made a statement about the Frenkie de Jong topic. He says that they don't intend to sell him now and he is happy there also. Barcelona seem very determined to keep him but it looks like there are some issues with his salary now. In this financial condition their job might be a little difficult but they should do their best not to lose strength in the end. There are so many news all around like he will still leave but it depends on how Barcelona will act as of now.

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1543307404632268802?s=20&t=yOZ74BmpwohQ4cVv9S7xkQ

Of course this makes Man United even more crazy, this is because Ten Hag really wants him to be at Man United. I also saw the news on TV that he was actually comfortable in Barcelona. Laporta's statement may be reality or just Barcelona's way of making more money. But if many clubs give up maybe it will be a problem, because they will not get the money to cover the financial crisis. In addition they also want to buy Lewandoski and this purchase could fail if De Jong remained at Barcelona.

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Quote from: lulumiya on July 03, 2022, 07:28:24 AM

It is still vague whether Barcelona are going to be able to complete the agreement with Bayern Munich for Lewandowski. Like you people said Bayern Munich have already rejected Barcelona's third offer too. This must be really annoying for Barcelona as they would like to finish the deal as soon as possible. However it doesn't seem like this process is affecting them negatively right now too. Because they are going for their other targets like Raphinha on one hand.

Bayern Munich are really serious about not selling out their star players anything less than €50 million. Lewandowski is concerned as Bayern best player. While, Barcelona are currently having financial issue, and the oonlt way they can possibly bring Lewandowski to Barcelona is by selling out their players in order to raise funds. This is a big problems for them. However, I think they will probably go for Raphinha, if Bayern choose not to accept their offer.

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