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Quote from: mamesso on October 02, 2024, 12:11:08 AM

An important win for Barcelona after previously losing to Monaco in the first match. Hansi Flick's gamble in rotating players when defeated by Osasuna paid off with very satisfying results, they managed to pick up three points and improve their position in the standings.
I was a little curious about Hansi Flick decision to replace Lewandowski/Yamal, why not replace Ferran Torres, even though he played very badly in this match. Luckily Ferran's poor performance was covered up with a 5-0 win, otherwise Flick would have been in the media spotlight again.

Next Match, Barcelona will play away at Alaves headquarters, a win is a must to secure their position at the top of the standings.

What's the point of leaving Lewandowski and Yamal on the field when your team is already winning 4-0, this decision is more than correct, firstly these players need to rest before more important matches, and secondly De Jong has finally returned to the game and he needs to be given the opportunity to gradually enter the game, preferably at the end of the match, when your team will definitely win. The match with Young Boys was definitely not difficult for Barcelona, but the match with Alaves will be much more difficult.

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Quote from: Luzin on October 02, 2024, 02:26:41 AM

You see Endrick? yes it seems that he wants to be in the spotlight. This also happened when Madrid won over Stuttgart. Luckily, at that time his kick could be a goal. Against Atletico Madrid it also happened, but his kick was far and inaccurate. Even though there is Bellingham, he should be wiser to make good decisions. Maybe the situation will change if you give it to Bellingham. Ancelotti should immediately give advice to read the situation of the match and ultimately make a wise decision. So he doesn't grow up to be a selfish player. But wise players make decisions for the benefit of the team.

Yes of course it looks very selfish, if only he passed to his teammate, most likely Real Madrid could have pocketed 3 points regardless of the incident in the match and the stoppage made ATM more dominant in pressing the attack. And I think it is true that it cannot be denied that young players have such selfishness, their immaturity on the field often harms the team they defend, in this case Ancelotti as a coach must be able to fix all of that and emphasize teamwork as the main priority in a match.

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Barcelona this time still leads La Liga with a 3-point advantage over second-placed Madrid, Barcelona failed to widen their gap in the standings after they had to be forced to surrender to Osasuna in the last match, Barcelona defeat in week 8 should be a good opportunity for Madrid to shorten the gap between the two, but unfortunately for Madrid they also had to lose points after a 1-1 draw with Atletico Madrid, the small point difference between Madrid and Barcelona at the moment certainly makes the battle for the top of the La Liga standings even hotter because Villareal is also a member of it, Barcelona who this season is under Hansi Flick of course wants to bring Barcelona back to its glory and I think they can no longer lose points if they don't want to let Madrid take over the top of the standings, So far Villareal has started the season quite surprisingly and they have been quite consistent in picking up points in every game, but I think gradually we will see them in the middle of the table again, because most likely they will not be able to survive with the competition at the top of the standings later

Hansi Flick is a very good coach, he knows his job well and I like him even if I find him slightly rigid on certain strategies.
In any case, Barcelona is doing very well and I'm curious to see how it goes in the Champions League too.
The team is good, so you just need to work and you'll get something.

With this display Barcelona players has started displaying in this new season to top the table in the la Liga league competition, show that their head coach is very good in this season to take the team to another level, because the way the strikers are scoring goals in this season is amazing. If they can maintain this position in the la Liga league, I think they are going to do well in other competitions, because la Liga league carry strong teams than champions league, because Real Madrid was leading in the la Liga league table last season and they were able to win champions league title and still won la Liga league title. With the potential players Barcelona head coach is coaching right now, I think he will lead the team to victory to win la Liga league title this season.

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Quote from: giammangiato on October 02, 2024, 03:13:02 AM

Hansi Flick is a very good coach, he knows his job well and I like him even if I find him slightly rigid on certain strategies.
In any case, Barcelona is doing very well and I'm curious to see how it goes in the Champions League too.
The team is good, so you just need to work and you'll get something.

There were doubts at the beginning of his arrival because the Barcelona team was in financial trouble, but Hansi Flick was able to prove that he could make Barcelona's performance even better and what he has shown so far has been able to convince many people that Hansi Flick is quite successful now.
Now I am sure that Barcelona will be a title contender with Real Madrid and Barcelona has even increased its percentage to be able to win the La Liga title, the Barcelona team only needs to maintain its consistency.

Quote from: reagansimms on October 02, 2024, 03:11:53 AM

Yes, that action made him receive a lot of criticism after the draw at Atletico headquarters, the result would have been different if he gave the ball to Jude Bellingham, it might have been the winning goal for Madrid. Behind his selfish actions, there is a mission that Endrick has been aiming for, perhaps he wants to secure a place in the starting eleven because so far he has played more often as a substitute.
On the other hand, Real Madrid is in the midst of anxiety because Jude Bellingham, who was very productive last season, has not scored a single goal this season. Although his main job is not to score goals, Madrid's concerns are very reasonable because they have lost one of their goal sources.

Endrick is a young player and he has not been able to control his emotions, especially when he joined the giant team Real Madrid, of course, he overdid it so that many mistakes would appear.
His action in the match against Atletico Madrid was quite striking because he should have been able to make the opportunity a goal but unfortunately from a very long distance he released a kick towards the goal that was not accurate.
Now there is a lot of criticism that has been directed at Endrick and with this criticism he should be able to change.

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Quote from: Palakka on October 01, 2024, 10:10:33 AM

Barcelona this time still leads La Liga with a 3-point advantage over second-placed Madrid, Barcelona failed to widen their gap in the standings after they had to be forced to surrender to Osasuna in the last match, Barcelona defeat in week 8 should be a good opportunity for Madrid to shorten the gap between the two, but unfortunately for Madrid they also had to lose points after a 1-1 draw with Atletico Madrid, the small point difference between Madrid and Barcelona at the moment certainly makes the battle for the top of the La Liga standings even hotter because Villareal is also a member of it, Barcelona who this season is under Hansi Flick of course wants to bring Barcelona back to its glory and I think they can no longer lose points if they don't want to let Madrid take over the top of the standings, So far Villareal has started the season quite surprisingly and they have been quite consistent in picking up points in every game, but I think gradually we will see them in the middle of the table again, because most likely they will not be able to survive with the competition at the top of the standings later

Hansi Flick is a very good coach, he knows his job well and I like him even if I find him slightly rigid on certain strategies.
In any case, Barcelona is doing very well and I'm curious to see how it goes in the Champions League too.
The team is good, so you just need to work and you'll get something.

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Quote from: Luzin on October 02, 2024, 02:26:41 AM

You see Endrick? yes it seems that he wants to be in the spotlight. This also happened when Madrid won over Stuttgart. Luckily, at that time his kick could be a goal. Against Atletico Madrid it also happened, but his kick was far and inaccurate. Even though there is Bellingham, he should be wiser to make good decisions. Maybe the situation will change if you give it to Bellingham. Ancelotti should immediately give advice to read the situation of the match and ultimately make a wise decision. So he doesn't grow up to be a selfish player. But wise players make decisions for the benefit of the team.

Yes, that action made him receive a lot of criticism after the draw at Atletico headquarters, the result would have been different if he gave the ball to Jude Bellingham, it might have been the winning goal for Madrid. Behind his selfish actions, there is a mission that Endrick has been aiming for, perhaps he wants to secure a place in the starting eleven because so far he has played more often as a substitute.
On the other hand, Real Madrid is in the midst of anxiety because Jude Bellingham, who was very productive last season, has not scored a single goal this season. Although his main job is not to score goals, Madrid's concerns are very reasonable because they have lost one of their goal sources.

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After experiencing their first defeat in the Champions League against one of the League 1 clubs, it did not weaken the mentality of the Barcelona players at all, they rose and did not want to accept a series of bad results in the Champions League and they managed to achieve their first victory against Young Boys with a very impressive landslide score, even the opposing team could not withstand the attacks carried out by the Barcelona players who were so aggressive, the inevitable score of 5 goals made Barcelona more confident to face the next challenges. Indeed, Barcelona management was not wrong to appoint Hansi Flick as their new coach, in fact, even though he was doubted, he was able to prove it and make the players look more motivated and have great determination to achieve higher results.

Three points and five goals, It's amazing... the fans can sleep peacefully tonight

Now Hansi should be happy but Hansi being Hansi, his face remained flat and he always remained humble.
In this game, Ansu Fati and Frenkie de Jong returned to the pitch after being injured for months. Good sign.
And Rapinha is the player who has improved the most under Hansi. IMO
Hat trick vs Real Valladolid, two goals vs Villarreal, and now a goal and an assist in a Champions League game that Barcelona won.

Hansi Flick will make Barcelona great again...

Barcelona statistics is amazing this season because they have plenty to win with big scores in all competitions and this season Barcelona has been through an 10 matches total in all competitions and they can win with big scores 4 times from those matches so these records is proven Barcelona performance is much better under Hansi Flick rather than under Xavi and one of the most important factor why Barcelona is very strong because under Hansi Flick the players such as Lewandowski, raphinha and Lamine Yamal has experience good progress and in Laliga until week 8 Barcelona has scored 25 goals and of those goals 18 were scored by their strikers and from these statistics we can see it that Barcelona has dangerous attacking lines

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Quote from: Luzin on October 02, 2024, 02:26:41 AM

You see Endrick? yes it seems that he wants to be in the spotlight. This also happened when Madrid won over Stuttgart. Luckily, at that time his kick could be a goal. Against Atletico Madrid it also happened, but his kick was far and inaccurate. Even though there is Bellingham, he should be wiser to make good decisions. Maybe the situation will change if you give it to Bellingham. Ancelotti should immediately give advice to read the situation of the match and ultimately make a wise decision. So he doesn't grow up to be a selfish player. But wise players make decisions for the benefit of the team.

This young player is now very much overrated because he is overrated so that Endrick is currently acting very selfishly.
It was clear in the match against Atletico Madrid that Endrick's performance was very selfish, he seemed to want to be seen as being able to score goals which resulted in losses for the team.
So that really needs to be realized and Ancelotti must be able to guide this young player so that he does not act excessively who considers himself a star just because he is overrated by the media.
And in my opinion, overall Endrick's individual quality is nothing special.

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Quote from: Palakka on October 01, 2024, 10:10:33 AM

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Team	Point
Barcellona	21
Real Madrid	18
Atletico Madrid	16
Athletic Bilbao	14
Maiorca	14
Villarreal	14
Osasuna	14
Betis Siviglia	12
Rayo Vallecano	10
Celta Vigo	10
Alaves	10
Girona	9
Siviglia	9
Real Sociedad	8
Getafe	7
Leganes	7
Espanyol	7
Valencia	5
Real Valladolid	5
Las Palmas	3

Only three points separate Barcelona and Real Madrid. Villareal I expected more

Barcelona this time still leads La Liga with a 3-point advantage over second-placed Madrid, Barcelona failed to widen their gap in the standings after they had to be forced to surrender to Osasuna in the last match, Barcelona defeat in week 8 should be a good opportunity for Madrid to shorten the gap between the two, but unfortunately for Madrid they also had to lose points after a 1-1 draw with Atletico Madrid, the small point difference between Madrid and Barcelona at the moment certainly makes the battle for the top of the La Liga standings even hotter because Villareal is also a member of it, Barcelona who this season is under Hansi Flick of course wants to bring Barcelona back to its glory and I think they can no longer lose points if they don't want to let Madrid take over the top of the standings, So far Villareal has started the season quite surprisingly and they have been quite consistent in picking up points in every game, but I think gradually we will see them in the middle of the table again, because most likely they will not be able to survive with the competition at the top of the standings later

Good performance and the good result so far from Barcelona and Flick considering the players they have in this team Flick had an epic performance in Barcelona but still I'm a hundred percent sure that Barcelona will lose points this season because they won't have enough experienced players in this team to help Barcelona in the harder situation and they have many injured.
The good side of the story about Barcelona is they can now have more hope in the next weeks when players like De Jong and Gavi return to the squad again.

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You see Endrick? yes it seems that he wants to be in the spotlight. This also happened when Madrid won over Stuttgart. Luckily, at that time his kick could be a goal. Against Atletico Madrid it also happened, but his kick was far and inaccurate. Even though there is Bellingham, he should be wiser to make good decisions. Maybe the situation will change if you give it to Bellingham. Ancelotti should immediately give advice to read the situation of the match and ultimately make a wise decision. So he doesn't grow up to be a selfish player. But wise players make decisions for the benefit of the team.

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Quote from: koang on October 02, 2024, 12:29:03 AM

Three points and five goals, It's amazing... the fans can sleep peacefully tonight

Now Hansi should be happy but Hansi being Hansi, his face remained flat and he always remained humble.
In this game, Ansu Fati and Frenkie de Jong returned to the pitch after being injured for months. Good sign.
And Rapinha is the player who has improved the most under Hansi. IMO
Hat trick vs Real Valladolid, two goals vs Villarreal, and now a goal and an assist in a Champions League game that Barcelona won.

Hansi Flick will make Barcelona great again...

It is undeniable that Hansi Flick has been quite successful in making the Barcelona team much better this season and what has been proven is real evidence that Barcelona is developing very well now, winning in La Liga and also in the Champion League but apart from that the most important thing is that we can see Barcelona's performance which is much more developed so that they can get a satisfying final result.

Barcelona's big win in the Champion League match after losing in the previous match in La Liga proves that the Barcelona team has a strong mentality so that whatever bad results they receive do not affect the next match, that is a success from Hansi Flick in building this team.

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Quote from: tusandii on October 01, 2024, 11:26:49 PM

After experiencing their first defeat in the Champions League against one of the League 1 clubs, it did not weaken the mentality of the Barcelona players at all, they rose and did not want to accept a series of bad results in the Champions League and they managed to achieve their first victory against Young Boys with a very impressive landslide score, even the opposing team could not withstand the attacks carried out by the Barcelona players who were so aggressive, the inevitable score of 5 goals made Barcelona more confident to face the next challenges. Indeed, Barcelona management was not wrong to appoint Hansi Flick as their new coach, in fact, even though he was doubted, he was able to prove it and make the players look more motivated and have great determination to achieve higher results.

Three points and five goals, It's amazing... the fans can sleep peacefully tonight

Now Hansi should be happy but Hansi being Hansi, his face remained flat and he always remained humble.
In this game, Ansu Fati and Frenkie de Jong returned to the pitch after being injured for months. Good sign.
And Rapinha is the player who has improved the most under Hansi. IMO
Hat trick vs Real Valladolid, two goals vs Villarreal, and now a goal and an assist in a Champions League game that Barcelona won.

Hansi Flick will make Barcelona great again...

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Quote from: tusandii on October 01, 2024, 11:26:49 PM

After experiencing their first defeat in the Champions League against one of the League 1 clubs, it did not weaken the mentality of the Barcelona players at all, they rose and did not want to accept a series of bad results in the Champions League and they managed to achieve their first victory against Young Boys with a very impressive landslide score, even the opposing team could not withstand the attacks carried out by the Barcelona players who were so aggressive, the inevitable score of 5 goals made Barcelona more confident to face the next challenges. Indeed, Barcelona management was not wrong to appoint Hansi Flick as their new coach, in fact, even though he was doubted, he was able to prove it and make the players look more motivated and have great determination to achieve higher results.

An important win for Barcelona after previously losing to Monaco in the first match. Hansi Flick's gamble in rotating players when defeated by Osasuna paid off with very satisfying results, they managed to pick up three points and improve their position in the standings.
I was a little curious about Hansi Flick decision to replace Lewandowski/Yamal, why not replace Ferran Torres, even though he played very badly in this match. Luckily Ferran's poor performance was covered up with a 5-0 win, otherwise Flick would have been in the media spotlight again.

Next Match, Barcelona will play away at Alaves headquarters, a win is a must to secure their position at the top of the standings.

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Quote from: tusandii on October 01, 2024, 11:26:49 PM

After experiencing their first defeat in the Champions League against one of the League 1 clubs, it did not weaken the mentality of the Barcelona players at all, they rose and did not want to accept a series of bad results in the Champions League and they managed to achieve their first victory against Young Boys with a very impressive landslide score, even the opposing team could not withstand the attacks carried out by the Barcelona players who were so aggressive, the inevitable score of 5 goals made Barcelona more confident to face the next challenges. Indeed, Barcelona management was not wrong to appoint Hansi Flick as their new coach, in fact, even though he was doubted, he was able to prove it and make the players look more motivated and have great determination to achieve higher results.

The start of the Champions League was not good for Barcelona, but in the second round, they beat the Young Boys by a wide margin. They were very upset after losing the first match against Monaco and they celebrated well after the 5-0 win. This win was much needed for them and will act as motivation for the next match and add extra points to their points table after losing by a huge margin. Lewandowski scored the first goal in the eighth minute of the match and almost every player was able to show their best skills. Rafinha and Lamine Yamal scored the first goal as a result of excellent skill.

After that, Rafinha scored himself in the 34th minute and the third goal was scored by one of the star strikers Inigo Martinez. Barcelona tried to maintain their influence for most of the match. Lewandowski scored the second goal early in the second half and the final goal was an own goal. Newly appointed coach Hansie Flick is very experienced and should be given more time to get the team to a strong position based on the synergy of the players.

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After experiencing their first defeat in the Champions League against one of the League 1 clubs, it did not weaken the mentality of the Barcelona players at all, they rose and did not want to accept a series of bad results in the Champions League and they managed to achieve their first victory against Young Boys with a very impressive landslide score, even the opposing team could not withstand the attacks carried out by the Barcelona players who were so aggressive, the inevitable score of 5 goals made Barcelona more confident to face the next challenges. Indeed, Barcelona management was not wrong to appoint Hansi Flick as their new coach, in fact, even though he was doubted, he was able to prove it and make the players look more motivated and have great determination to achieve higher results.

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Quote from: Raflesia on October 01, 2024, 10:20:50 PM

But the current praise I think is still too early for Hansi Flick to be that good and bring big changes to Barcelona. As a new coach, it is certain that the proof is the first season to be good so that before he presents at least 1 trophy I think he still can't change Barcelona better and can't even match Xavi in the end so that no matter how good Flick is now I think saying he changed Barcelona is still 50/50 because the evidence is still not too clear overall considering this is still the beginning of the season.

Indeed, Hansi Flick cannot yet be called the best coach, but in my opinion, the positive results he has achieved are one of the early signs of Barcelona's success. We don't just look at the best results by lifting trophies in certain competitions, but we also have to consider other factors like Barcelona's poor finances, yet Hansi Flick was still able to bring Barcelona to perform as well as possible.
Well, even if Barcelona ultimately fails in the UCL and only wins the domestic league title, in my opinion, that praise is deserved for Hansi Flick.

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Frenkie de Jong returned to action for Barcelona last night after five months out with an ankle injury. Fans at Montjuic were delighted to see De Jong back in action, standing up to give him a standing ovation. For Frenkie today was an important step, coming back to the team after such a serious injury, playing a few minutes today was important for him. Frenkie De Jong's return is much needed at the moment when Barcelona is facing an injury storm.

Coach Hansi Flick will need to have a plan to use Frenkie De Jong appropriately in the coming time if he does not want bad things to happen again.

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Quote from: Raflesia on October 01, 2024, 10:20:50 PM

But the current praise I think is still too early for Hansi Flick to be that good and bring big changes to Barcelona. As a new coach, it is certain that the proof is the first season to be good so that before he presents at least 1 trophy I think he still can't change Barcelona better and can't even match Xavi in the end so that no matter how good Flick is now I think saying he changed Barcelona is still 50/50 because the evidence is still not too clear overall considering this is still the beginning of the season.

If Barcelona weren't in financial trouble I'd say Hansi Flick would definitely have secured a title this season. But Barcelona management could not provide Hansi Flick with big funds for player purchase. Hansi Flick has managed to build a youth-oriented squad. Still, he's got some very talented players. And Flick has managed to develop a wonderful bond between the players. Also Hansi Flick's match strategy is excellent. This is why Barcelona's overall performance is still stable. Barcelona lost the first match of the Champions League unluckily. However, Barcelona made a great comeback in the second match. Despite losing against Osasuna in the last match of La Liga, Barcelona is expected to win by a big margin against Alaves in the next match.

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Barcelona players, are they serious? Ofcourse they're serious and determined, but though they've encountered hurdles, passing through them was not easy but definitely triggered winning results. Bouncing back on track, Barcelona just have what it takes to prevail in good moments. Thrashing Young Boys in the UEFA Champions League already showed their priority and potential to explore next season. The UEFA Champions League is top league, we watched the fierce performance of these clubs. Barcelona headcoach, Hansi Flick is world class coach, he knows what he's doing and absolutely going for the best results during his charge in Camp Nou.

You are right Barcelona determination is impressive. They have faced problems but bounced back strongly showing they can succeed. Their big win over Young Boys in Champions League shows they are focused and ready for next season. The Champions League brings out best in top teams. With Hansi Flick as coach Barcelona is in good hands. He is excellent coach who knows how to win. Flick leadership and team talent mean Barcelona will have great season. They have what it takes to be champions.

We all criticized Barcelona after the defeat against Osasuna. I thought I might not see a better performance from Barcelona. This group lost the truck. But Hansi Flick proved his mettle. Barcelona boys played great against Young Boys. Barcelona scored 5 goals in this match. On the other hand, Young Boys' players were not able to attack as well. Barcelona players had 70% of the ball possession and dominated the match. Raphinha was the best performer in this match in Barcelona jersey. He scored one goal and one assist. Lewandowski on the other hand scored two goals in this match.

People criticized Barcelona's defeat against Osasuna. It was caused by they did heavy rotation of his squad in a tough game. They could have won against Osasuna if they hadn't rested a lot of his players in that game. That's why they're being criticized for such decision.

Barcelona should be doing heavy rotation in this game considering YB was not a serious threat for them. But they decided to go all in with their full squad, that's why they got a big win against YB. Their defense looked weak at first. But, in the end, it was a fair result. Their players, especially Pedri, played excellently.

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Quote from: ndutndut on October 01, 2024, 03:06:02 PM

It must be admitted that so far Flick has brought Barcelona into a new era. Barcelona's game is more enthusiastic, continues to play fast and collectively Barcelona, especially young and senior players are all compact.
To be honest, Barcelona has undergone major changes since being handled by Hansi Flick. He immediately implemented an attacking strategy in Barcelona. The tactics implemented by Flick can even revive the attackers who were considered to have failed, namely Robert Lewandowski and Raphinha. The two players immediately performed well under Hansi Flick's guidance, and the young players are also more mature.

For some reason I still feel 50/50 with this not that I don't recognize the good performance of Flick at the beginning of this season because indeed he did very well although there were some matches that did not match expectations especially when facing Monaco in the Champions League and last week when losing against Osasuna but that does not really reduce the praise for the good performance of Barcelona.

But the current praise I think is still too early for Hansi Flick to be that good and bring big changes to Barcelona. As a new coach, it is certain that the proof is the first season to be good so that before he presents at least 1 trophy I think he still can't change Barcelona better and can't even match Xavi in the end so that no matter how good Flick is now I think saying he changed Barcelona is still 50/50 because the evidence is still not too clear overall considering this is still the beginning of the season.

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