Topic: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 4134. (Read 538464 times)
Messi played alongside players like Ronaldinho for several years, and after Xavi and Iniesta. Playing with such masters helped him to become a perfect player. Unfortunately, Fati does not have that opportunity. He may not be like Messi, but he can become the leader of the team. Barcelona needs such players at the moment, I hope he won't have more injuries and grows into a big player.
I think the management and Barcelona fans should not expect that Ansu Fati will be like Messi, because of course it will make Ansu Fati very difficult to develop because he is burdened by the big name Messi
Yep. Don't give too big pressure on him, just let him does his best for the club. We still cannot compare Fati and Messi, there is still too much gap between them. Fati is a young player, while Messi is a legend, it is not the right time to compare them. In my opinion, it is too early to give the number 10 to Ansu Fati because it possibly makes him burdened. I don't understand why Barcelona management does it in hurry!At least giving time to try is better than nothing just like what messi did when he first entered the Barcelona senior team. Anyway I still hope there will be a replacement for Messi there in the near future.
Maybe losing Messi did have a big enough effect on Barcelona, therefore Barcelona management wants to do something by creating a replacement
and hope everyone can move on soon. But this will indeed make Ansu Fati a heavy burden, It's not easy to be a replacement for Messi who has given
a lot for Barcelona. But I can understand what the Barcelona management did, they just want to prove that Barcelona can still be a great team
even without the presence of Messi. But if we look at Ansu Fati's game, Fati is indeed a potential player who can become a great player in the future,
the most important thing is to be given a lot of playing opportunities. I believe Ansu Fati can replace Messi in the future, we just need to give Ansu Fati
a chance to prove himself.
The weird part is the benching him part. I mean sure he could sign a pre-contract deal with Real Madrid when he is still with PSG but why bench him?
Mbappe is only allowed to discuss with other clubs after the January 2022. In the summer 2021, he still has one year contract and was not allowed to do so.Quote
If you are PSG and you are on route to winning UCL and if mbappe is still trying his best to win that UCL before he leaves and gives great performance, then why would you bench him? He could be the best player on that team, could be Neymar or whatever but he is up there for sure and you are telling me that just because he will leave, you will bench him?
I am not PSG president so I can not say about that. I only guess that they know the risk of losing Mbappe in free transfer but they accept it. They take the risk, sacrifice the cost of about $200M to increase their chance to win Champions League.They can sell him and spend $200M to buy another player but the new one might not help them to win Champions League asap or within 2 seasons. They know the time of Messi is limited and they can not wait for a new player to adapt to the team. It is more risky for them than sacrifice $200M and keep Mbappe one season.
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I think PSG will not bench him and they are fine with losing Mbappe as a whole next season just to win that UCL, because mbappe for one more season nearly guarantees them the cup whereas without him it guarantees they will not be able to win. I have seen teams who are much worse to win UCL, hell even Chelsea last year was a lot worse than PSG this year, so it is quite possible for them to get it if they play team ball.
It is a sport for team working and I understood but it is better, not worse when you have a player who can decide a match like Mbappe. 
It is still early to talk about a player whose age is only 18 now. But one thing is certain that we may not see a player like Messi at Barcelona or another club for a very long time. Messi is really something different. He is not from our world.
He is a legend already. Maybe in 20 years or so, we can have another player like him I think.I agree with you, because indeed Ansu Fati must really be able to show the quality of his game to be worthy to replace Messi position in Barcelona, and now this will certainly be a burden for Ansu Fati if Barcelona fans expect more from him, because now he is claimed to be Messi successor.
I think the management and Barcelona fans should not expect that Ansu Fati will be like Messi, because of course it will make Ansu Fati very difficult to develop because he is burdened by the big name Messi
I think the management and Barcelona fans should not expect that Ansu Fati will be like Messi, because of course it will make Ansu Fati very difficult to develop because he is burdened by the big name Messi
Yep. Don't give too big pressure on him, just let him does his best for the club. We still cannot compare Fati and Messi, there is still too much gap between them. Fati is a young player, while Messi is a legend, it is not the right time to compare them. In my opinion, it is too early to give the number 10 to Ansu Fati because it possibly makes him burdened. I don't understand why Barcelona management does it in hurry!At least giving time to try is better than nothing just like what messi did when he first entered the Barcelona senior team. Anyway I still hope there will be a replacement for Messi there in the near future.
Maybe losing Messi did have a big enough effect on Barcelona, therefore Barcelona management wants to do something by creating a replacement
and hope everyone can move on soon. But this will indeed make Ansu Fati a heavy burden, It's not easy to be a replacement for Messi who has given
a lot for Barcelona. But I can understand what the Barcelona management did, they just want to prove that Barcelona can still be a great team
even without the presence of Messi. But if we look at Ansu Fati's game, Fati is indeed a potential player who can become a great player in the future,
the most important thing is to be given a lot of playing opportunities. I believe Ansu Fati can replace Messi in the future, we just need to give Ansu Fati
a chance to prove himself.
I think the management and Barcelona fans should not expect that Ansu Fati will be like Messi, because of course it will make Ansu Fati very difficult to develop because he is burdened by the big name Messi
Yep. Don't give too big pressure on him, just let him does his best for the club. We still cannot compare Fati and Messi, there is still too much gap between them. Fati is a young player, while Messi is a legend, it is not the right time to compare them. In my opinion, it is too early to give the number 10 to Ansu Fati because it possibly makes him burdened. I don't understand why Barcelona management does it in hurry!I'm sure there's a certain meaning behind it all they understand better what to do even though there is a risk of being burdened there
At least giving time to try is better than nothing just like what messi did when he first entered the Barcelona senior team. Anyway I still hope there will be a replacement for Messi there in the near future.
I think the management and Barcelona fans should not expect that Ansu Fati will be like Messi, because of course it will make Ansu Fati very difficult to develop because he is burdened by the big name Messi
Yep. Don't give too big pressure on him, just let him does his best for the club. We still cannot compare Fati and Messi, there is still too much gap between them. Fati is a young player, while Messi is a legend, it is not the right time to compare them. In my opinion, it is too early to give the number 10 to Ansu Fati because it possibly makes him burdened. I don't understand why Barcelona management does it in hurry!You are right about Messi leaving the team, most people would not want such a transfer but I think the number 10 jersey is also important. Not every player can wear this jersey, I think it's too early to give the number 10 jersey to this player.
Ansu Fati is very talented, but he is still at the beginning of the road compared to the players who wore the number 10 jersey before. I hope he doesn't lose his talent and can be among the legends
Why did Barcelona let Messi go too easily?Ansu Fati is very talented, but he is still at the beginning of the road compared to the players who wore the number 10 jersey before. I hope he doesn't lose his talent and can be among the legends
The transfer of Griezman can be done earlier to cut their salary budget and it would be enough to sign a new contract with Messi. After Messi left, they had reasons to get sympathy from Pique to cut his salary.
All things are in a plan, perhaps? They did have plan to force Messi and Griezman out of the club. And I feel that they did not want to keep Messi while they can solve this situation better.
It is still early to talk about a player whose age is only 18 now. But one thing is certain that we may not see a player like Messi at Barcelona or another club for a very long time. Messi is really something different. He is not from our world.
He is a legend already. Maybe in 20 years or so, we can have another player like him I think.I agree with you, because indeed Ansu Fati must really be able to show the quality of his game to be worthy to replace Messi position in Barcelona, and now this will certainly be a burden for Ansu Fati if Barcelona fans expect more from him, because now he is claimed to be Messi successor.
I think the management and Barcelona fans should not expect that Ansu Fati will be like Messi, because of course it will make Ansu Fati very difficult to develop because he is burdened by the big name Messi
If Messi wear something like 45 or 63 that could be possible but let's be honest, no matter how good a player is, even if the greatest of all time, you can't retire number 10. I don't think that's even an internal discussion. You can honor Messi in different ways other than retiring no.10 jersey.
Messi is gone, but life goes on. I'm glad they give No.10 to another La Masia player Fati. He can be very successful and be the new star of this club. Just give him some time. If they give away no.10 to a newcomer I would be against it but I don't think nobody have right to say something to La Masia players.
Messi is gone, but life goes on. I'm glad they give No.10 to another La Masia player Fati. He can be very successful and be the new star of this club. Just give him some time. If they give away no.10 to a newcomer I would be against it but I don't think nobody have right to say something to La Masia players.
Ansu Fati may not be a great player like Messi. But he is a talented player. He is a player of La Masia. Barcelona has built him. Maybe Barca management is hoping that he will serve Barcelona for a long time. But Fati will never be able to fill Messi's void. I don't think he's as talented as Messi.
Today, after two years, Ansu Fati has already started to fulfil his potential; he might not be at the same level of performance like Messi but statistics reveals how much this guy is talented and may fill the vacant place of Messi in Barcelone.
This is an extract from Messi speech about Ansu Fati:
I’d like them to bring him on gradually, like they did with me when I started, taking things nice and easy and without putting pressure on him.
That's what makes it feel weird. It's as if PSG feels confident that Mbappe will change his decision and is willing to do a contract extension and PSG seemingly not too bothered if they have to lose a great player as Mbappe for free.
PSG are gambling with Mbappe and their decision. They gamble to win Champions League and accept the worst situation when they lose him from a free transfer. I think they believe that can renew a contract with him but they accept to lose him if they win the Champions League.I think PSG will not bench him and they are fine with losing Mbappe as a whole next season just to win that UCL, because mbappe for one more season nearly guarantees them the cup whereas without him it guarantees they will not be able to win. I have seen teams who are much worse to win UCL, hell even Chelsea last year was a lot worse than PSG this year, so it is quite possible for them to get it if they play team ball.
If Messi wear something like 45 or 63 that could be possible but let's be honest, no matter how good a player is, even if the greatest of all time, you can't retire number 10. I don't think that's even an internal discussion. You can honor Messi in different ways other than retiring no.10 jersey.
Messi is gone, but life goes on. I'm glad they give No.10 to another La Masia player Fati. He can be very successful and be the new star of this club. Just give him some time. If they give away no.10 to a newcomer I would be against it but I don't think nobody have right to say something to La Masia players.
Messi is gone, but life goes on. I'm glad they give No.10 to another La Masia player Fati. He can be very successful and be the new star of this club. Just give him some time. If they give away no.10 to a newcomer I would be against it but I don't think nobody have right to say something to La Masia players.
Ansu Fati may not be a great player like Messi. But he is a talented player. He is a player of La Masia. Barcelona has built him. Maybe Barca management is hoping that he will serve Barcelona for a long time. But Fati will never be able to fill Messi's void. I don't think he's as talented as Messi.
It is still early to talk about a player whose age is only 18 now. But one thing is certain that we may not see a player like Messi at Barcelona or another club for a very long time. Messi is really something different. He is not from our world.
He is a legend already. Maybe in 20 years or so, we can have another player like him I think. Ansu Fati may not be a great player like Messi. But he is a talented player. He is a player of La Masia. Barcelona has built him. Maybe Barca management is hoping that he will serve Barcelona for a long time. But Fati will never be able to fill Messi's void. I don't think he's as talented as Messi.
At least Ansu Fati can help Barcelona win with a slick game. Messi was not born to be a great player since he came to Barcelona, and he has gone through a long process of building a brilliant career with the help of many players and their coach. Ansu Fati is the same, he is very young and has good talent as a Barcelona player. Fati has to go through a growth process like some of his predecessor legends like Xavi, Iniesta, and Messi. I'm sure he will develop well under the direction of a coach who cares about La masia's players. 
Legends like Messi and Ronaldinho have played in the number 10 jersey of Barcelona. I don’t think Ansu Fati is as talented as them. If he can take himself to their level then that is definitely good. But so far I don't think Fati is as talented as Messi or Ronaldinho. Barcelona should have given the number 10 jersey to someone who deserves it. The Barcelona management is doing all sorts of weird weird things this season.
Messi's departure from Barcelona is indirectly due to management. At least I believe so. Didn't the Management of Barcelona know about such rules of the league? If they wanted to, they could find a way to keep Messi in the team. But they did not want to keep Messi in the team. However, it would be great for Barcelona if Ansu Fati could take Messi's place.
Legends like Messi and Ronaldinho have played in the number 10 jersey of Barcelona. I don’t think Ansu Fati is as talented as them. If he can take himself to their level then that is definitely good. But so far I don't think Fati is as talented as Messi or Ronaldinho. Barcelona should have given the number 10 jersey to someone who deserves it. The Barcelona management is doing all sorts of weird weird things this season.
Messi's departure from Barcelona is indirectly due to management. At least I believe so. Didn't the Management of Barcelona know about such rules of the league? If they wanted to, they could find a way to keep Messi in the team. But they did not want to keep Messi in the team. However, it would be great for Barcelona if Ansu Fati could take Messi's place.
You are right about Messi leaving the team, most people would not want such a transfer but I think the number 10 jersey is also important. Not every player can wear this jersey, I think it's too early to give the number 10 jersey to this player.
Ansu Fati is very talented, but he is still at the beginning of the road compared to the players who wore the number 10 jersey before. I hope he doesn't lose his talent and can be among the legends
Why did Barcelona let Messi go too easily?Ansu Fati is very talented, but he is still at the beginning of the road compared to the players who wore the number 10 jersey before. I hope he doesn't lose his talent and can be among the legends
The transfer of Griezman can be done earlier to cut their salary budget and it would be enough to sign a new contract with Messi. After Messi left, they had reasons to get sympathy from Pique to cut his salary.
All things are in a plan, perhaps? They did have plan to force Messi and Griezman out of the club. And I feel that they did not want to keep Messi while they can solve this situation better.
Back then there was a fantastic player like Messi who was defining the whole game of Barcelona. Now Fati will not have that support. And by giving him number 10, Barcelona made him the leader of the team, but it can be difficult for such a young player. Hopefully he can handle it. And will become the new Messi for Barcelona in the future.
I have already said before he is my favorite young player, I just wish he got more time and of course that bad injury almost one year ago took his youth out, and that's bad for anyone but especially at the formation of his skills and experience, it was very unfortunate for him.
But I hope this No.10 award is the beginning of everything for him. And I hope he knows he doesn't have to be another Messi, just be Ansu Fati. We need to go behind him and make him know he does not have to be god:)
I'm sorry, what other strange things do they do? Messi's departure from Barcelona was not because of management, but because of league rules. Fati is quite a talented player, he would have opened up even better if he hadn't been injured in '20. That's why I think he can play well and rightfully got number 10
You are right about Messi leaving the team, most people would not want such a transfer but I think the number 10 jersey is also important. Not every player can wear this jersey, I think it's too early to give the number 10 jersey to this player.
Ansu Fati is very talented, but he is still at the beginning of the road compared to the players who wore the number 10 jersey before. I hope he doesn't lose his talent and can be among the legends
Legends like Messi and Ronaldinho have played in the number 10 jersey of Barcelona. I don’t think Ansu Fati is as talented as them. If he can take himself to their level then that is definitely good. But so far I don't think Fati is as talented as Messi or Ronaldinho. Barcelona should have given the number 10 jersey to someone who deserves it. The Barcelona management is doing all sorts of weird weird things this season.
Real Madrid was really generous to increase the offer from €180m to €200m since the last negotiation, and even after that PSG didn't accept the offer. It makes me believe PSG didn't want to sell Mbappe since the beginning. PSG wants him to play at least one season partnering with Messi and Neymar, composing a top tier 1 unbeatable trio.
Is this approach more profitable for PSG than the offer made by Real Madrid, or is the symbolic meaning of this trio for the history of soccer and PSG itself more important than financial profits for the club?
It seems so. If PSG were willing to sell Kylian Mbappe, they would definitely accept the last offer. It looks like they are intending to make him play for them at least for one more season. They want to watch the Messi - Mbappe - Neymar trio in this season. They didn't even care about a gigantic offer like that. They are a rich club and I guess they thought that they would make up for it.Is this approach more profitable for PSG than the offer made by Real Madrid, or is the symbolic meaning of this trio for the history of soccer and PSG itself more important than financial profits for the club?
If it turns out that Mbappe sticks to his decision (don't want to extend his contract) and he decided to pre-contract with Real Madrid (or another club) in the winter transfer windows (January 2022), then there is a possibility that he will not be able to play a full season at PSG because it could be that PSG will put Mbappe on the bench until his contract expires.
I agree with you. Mbappe is a key player in the PSG team. The main scorer. Neymar was injured in most of the previous season. Mbappe was PSG's only hope then. He is a goal machine. He has been able to adapt very well to the other players of the PSG team. PSG will not put such a player on the bench.
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