La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 4155.

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Quote from: Karartma1 on July 27, 2021, 05:42:22 AM

So Real Madrid's hand got forced when it came to lose Raphael Varane. Nothing that surprises because the real reason behind the £42m deal with Man Utd is to bring Kylian Mbappe to Madrid. As many of you correctly said I think it's a matter of days for Mpabbe to find his way to Madrid. He could get a huge raise going to Spain and I believe that will help the negotiation phase.

Mbappe still has one year contract with PSG. Whether he will be released by PSG, I doubt that. From some of the news I've read, Mbappe has spoken to Mauricio Pochettino if he wants to find a new team, maybe Madrid. PSG also continues to approach Mbappe, so that he wants to stay.
Let's wait for the official news, if he really goes to Madrid of course I will be very happy. But I have doubts about the defense for next season. I haven't heard of the replacements for Ramos and Varane.

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So Real Madrid's hand got forced when it came to lose Raphael Varane. Nothing that surprises because the real reason behind the £42m deal with Man Utd is to bring Kylian Mbappe to Madrid. As many of you correctly said I think it's a matter of days for Mpabbe to find his way to Madrid. He could get a huge raise going to Spain and I believe that will help the negotiation phase.

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Quote from: Altryist on July 26, 2021, 05:40:34 AM

Friendlies are not an indication of the form the team is in right now. But the fact remains that Real is not going through the best stage in its history. I, like most, see that the season will not be very easy for Real Madrid, let's see how it really will be. But I think that Real Madrid will not be able to fight for the championship in La Liga this season, and also will not be able to play at the proper level in the Champions League.

Not only that but the roster wasn't fully there neither, I feel like we are going to see so many different players when the league starts because there were some youth players there and bench players as well and we have just seen the team go out there for basically increasing fitness levels. However the weird thing is, if the main starters are not there then why are they even doing this? I mean at the end of the day whole purpose of a friendly match to see how the tactic holds up and help the players get back into match condition but if the main players are not there then what is the point of having a friendly to begin with?

This was one of the most useless friendlies I have ever seen and it lacked so many star players of Real that it didn't mean anything at all, this game could have been cancelled or posptoned and nobody would have even realized it.

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Mbappe made a good decision to leave Monaco and joined PSG but if this time, he leaves PSG and participate in Real Madrid, it would be a bad and backward decision. Real Madrid squad is old in average age and their key players who brought 3 Champions League to the club, have been in downside of career.

Mbappe can feel he will be the most important player in Real Madrid but only this won't help him to win titles with the club or for his personal titles. The transfer of Varane to Manchester United only make things worse in Real Madrid.

I totally agree with you. If Mbappe joins Real Madrid, he will be one of Real Madrid's most valuable and important players. But winning the title is not certain. The PSG team is a thousand times better than Real Madrid. The PSG team seems to be much more stable this season. Real Madrid, on the other hand, has been even weaker than the previous season. They lost experienced coaches, lost two experienced defenders. Relying on Modrich and Benzeman alone, winning the title is impossible.

Real Madrid are very serious about buying Mbappe, therefore they let Varane move to Manchester United, even though Madrid have lost Ramos.
According to the news I read, it was one of Real Madrid's first steps to get additional funds to be able to buy Mbappe. Because based on
rumors circulating PSG want 180 million euros if Real Madrid want to buy Mbappe. The problem with Real Madrid is that it will not be enough to
just bring in Mbappe to win the La Liga trophy or the Champions League. Real Madrid need a few more star players to strengthen their squad,
but if they force to buy Mbappe Madrid will run out of money and probably won't be able to buy any more star players in the current transfer
window. Mbappe is a great player, but he also needs other players to support him. I think it's actually too much for Real Madrid to buy Mbappe
at a very high price.

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I'm just wondering what would happen if Griezmann really moved to Atletico Madrid. Barcelona left Suarez the previous season. Many said he was old, so leaving him was the right decision. But with the help of Suarez, Atletico Madrid has won the title this season. If Griezmann joins Atletico Madrid, Atletico Madrid will be even stronger.

I don't think there will be much change to Barcelona's game if Griezmann rejoin Atletico Madrid. I know Griezmann has contributed to Barcelona with a number of his goals, but it doesn't look like he will have much of a problem if he goes to Atletico Madrid again. It's true that if Atletico Madrid get Griezmann back then they will be much stronger than last season. Messi and Aguero and Depay are likely to help Barcelona throughout next season. I wouldn't take it too seriously because Barcelona is still the top team out of several team in the Spanish La Liga every season.

If Griezmann leaves Barcelona at the moment and joins Atletico Madrid, Barcelona will have no problem. Barcelona now have plenty and extra Strikers. Barcelona may be planning to release Dembele or Griezmann. But I was saying that Atletico would be stronger if Grismann will join. And next season Real Madrid is forming a very weak team compared to the previous season. So with Griezmann in the squad, Atletico Madrid's chances of winning another title will increase.

Many great forward have bad reputation and performance when play with Lionel Messi on Barcelona, now Griezmann have issues will sell by Barcelona to Atletico Madrid or Juventus because they want to sell many player to pay Messi salary, I think Griezmann is the best forward right now but he not has bigger space in Barcelona because they still have Messi.

I think Barcelona want to play Messi and Aguero together next season. But I would be happy if Griezmann is on the field with Aguero and Messi. Griezmann is a very skilled player. If he gets enough opportunity, he will definitely prove his ability. Barcelona has won many matches for his outstanding performance.

Several positive points that Barcelona Koeman came out of a very difficult season, starting with the disasters of the previous administration through the elections and ending with the ambiguity of the future of Messi, in the midst of all this I say several points that can be built upon for the future or for the new season at least, one of which is the discovery of Antoine Griezmann for sure,
Recently you feel that the player is starting to feel that he is part of the club's plans, even on an emotional level.
The player has already begun to feel that he is a key player in the team and Messi has always supported him when he was distracted and missed goals on the goal line and within reach.
Griezmann is at his level, there is no doubt that he A global player of a high lass, as they say, so his problem was never like this, but because the deal in terms of timing was not ideal because the environment at that time was not regulated in light of the accumulation of previous management problems, now it seems that we are promised with a different version of this.
This time based on the numbers of the last season and certainly in addition to the glow of the duo Pedri and Joker Frenkie de Jong.

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Even if Real Madrid can take Mbappe to the team, their condition will not improve much. Because Benzema and Hazard are enough for the Real Madrid forward, they played well throughout the entire season and were less injured. Luka Modrich can also play well throughout the entire season. Real's main weakness this season is their defense. Without the two main defenders, Varane and Ramos at Real Madrid, a much bigger void will be created in the team. It remains to be seen what action Real Madrid will take to fill this gap. However, if Atletico Madrid take Mbappe to the team, I think they will undoubtedly be ahead of Barcelona in winning the title.

Mbappe made a good decision to leave Monaco and joined PSG but if this time, he leaves PSG and participate in Real Madrid, it would be a bad and backward decision. Real Madrid squad is old in average age and their key players who brought 3 Champions League to the club, have been in downside of career.

Mbappe can feel he will be the most important player in Real Madrid but only this won't help him to win titles with the club or for his personal titles. The transfer of Varane to Manchester United only make things worse in Real Madrid.

I totally agree with you. If Mbappe joins Real Madrid, he will be one of Real Madrid's most valuable and important players. But winning the title is not certain. The PSG team is a thousand times better than Real Madrid. The PSG team seems to be much more stable this season. Real Madrid, on the other hand, has been even weaker than the previous season. They lost experienced coaches, lost two experienced defenders. Relying on Modrich and Benzeman alone, winning the title is impossible.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on July 27, 2021, 12:32:12 AM

Even if Real Madrid can take Mbappe to the team, their condition will not improve much. Because Benzema and Hazard are enough for the Real Madrid forward, they played well throughout the entire season and were less injured. Luka Modrich can also play well throughout the entire season. Real's main weakness this season is their defense. Without the two main defenders, Varane and Ramos at Real Madrid, a much bigger void will be created in the team. It remains to be seen what action Real Madrid will take to fill this gap. However, if Atletico Madrid take Mbappe to the team, I think they will undoubtedly be ahead of Barcelona in winning the title.

Mbappe made a good decision to leave Monaco and joined PSG but if this time, he leaves PSG and participate in Real Madrid, it would be a bad and backward decision. Real Madrid squad is old in average age and their key players who brought 3 Champions League to the club, have been in downside of career.

Mbappe can feel he will be the most important player in Real Madrid but only this won't help him to win titles with the club or for his personal titles. The transfer of Varane to Manchester United only make things worse in Real Madrid.

Quote from: AndySt on July 26, 2021, 06:33:22 PM

I am not sure that the transfer of Mbappe will happen in the next transfer window, because Paris Saint-Germain, unlike for example Barcelona, has no problems with either finances or financial fair play and therefore can afford to play a risky game and not sell Mbappe now, hoping to convince the player to stay in the team and extend the contract later. I am also not sure that Real Madrid will force the situation with the purchase of a player, because although Real Madrid's financial situation is easier than that of its rivals in Barcelona, it is still not the easiest. Moreover, recently new information on Mbappe's transfer has not been received from either Real Madrid or Paris Saint-Germain.

The more seasons Mbappe stay in PSG, the more opportunities for him to win Champions League with PSG. As regards of that, Mbappe might not move out of Parc de Princes after he wins a Champions League with them. If Mbappe want to become the biggest star in La Liga after the era of Ronaldo and Messi, he might sacrifice a few seasons to join them.

Back to Real Madrid, will they be able to prepare big fund for that transfer?

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on July 26, 2021, 01:29:15 PM

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Based on the current situation their main competitor is Atletico or if Real Madrid manages to bring in mbappe the situation will change again.

Even if Real Madrid can take Mbappe to the team, their condition will not improve much. Because Benzema and Hazard are enough for the Real Madrid forward, they played well throughout the entire season and were less injured. Luka Modrich can also play well throughout the entire season. Real's main weakness this season is their defense. Without the two main defenders, Varane and Ramos at Real Madrid, a much bigger void will be created in the team. It remains to be seen what action Real Madrid will take to fill this gap. However, if Atletico Madrid take Mbappe to the team, I think they will undoubtedly be ahead of Barcelona in winning the title.

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I'm sure about Real Madrid's finances because the financial stability of Real Madrid's management is still safe

I am not sure to talk about Madrid's financial stability, but if we consider how much Real Madrid already spent their money to sign new players this season, they should still have much money now. So far, there are no new big players besides Alaba. I guess this is because Real Madrid prioritizes their funds to sign another new big player. Since Real Madrid is interested in Mbappe and Mbappe already refused his extension contract in PSG, I believe he will go to Real Madrid.
Well, I assume Real Madrid knows the chance to sign Mbappe is quite high now, so they hold to not sign another big player till now.

I am not sure that the transfer of Mbappe will happen in the next transfer window, because Paris Saint-Germain, unlike for example Barcelona, has no problems with either finances or financial fair play and therefore can afford to play a risky game and not sell Mbappe now, hoping to convince the player to stay in the team and extend the contract later. I am also not sure that Real Madrid will force the situation with the purchase of a player, because although Real Madrid's financial situation is easier than that of its rivals in Barcelona, it is still not the easiest. Moreover, recently new information on Mbappe's transfer has not been received from either Real Madrid or Paris Saint-Germain.

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With a number of star players, PSG does not guarantee that they will win the UCL, the proof is that there are other teams that are even better, even more consistent, for example, last year was Chelsea, so PSG only continues to have ambitions to win trophies with world-class players, but what can a coach do? role in terms of reaching the UCL next season.

Fun Fact:

Thomas Tuchel, the coach who was in PSG for 2 seasons and was sacked in 2020 came to Chelsea and turned things around for them (Chelsea). In his second season at PSG. In his second season, he took them up to their first UEFA Champion's League final, but the Ungrateful bastards sacked him anyway. They must have regretted the decision when he won Chelsea another UCL trophy recently.

I never knew about Tuchel's good coaching quality untill he came to Chelsea and turn things around for Chelsea .PSG were inpatient with him,they didn't even allow him explore his unique talent. He took over from Frank Lampard at Chelsea and changed the club into the best club in the world for now.Its when Tuchel came to Chelsea,that I know the impact of a coach has alot to do on the players.He changed their mentality and turned them to be tittle hunters.He is probably one of the best coach in the world now.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on July 25, 2021, 08:55:23 PM

I'm sure about Real Madrid's finances because the financial stability of Real Madrid's management is still safe

I am not sure to talk about Madrid's financial stability, but if we consider how much Real Madrid already spent their money to sign new players this season, they should still have much money now. So far, there are no new big players besides Alaba. I guess this is because Real Madrid prioritizes their funds to sign another new big player. Since Real Madrid is interested in Mbappe and Mbappe already refused his extension contract in PSG, I believe he will go to Real Madrid.

Well, I assume Real Madrid knows the chance to sign Mbappe is quite high now, so they hold to not sign another big player till now.

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With a number of star players, PSG does not guarantee that they will win the UCL, the proof is that there are other teams that are even better, even more consistent, for example, last year was Chelsea, so PSG only continues to have ambitions to win trophies with world-class players, but what can a coach do? role in terms of reaching the UCL next season.

Fun Fact:

Thomas Tuchel, the coach who was in PSG for 2 seasons and was sacked in 2020 came to Chelsea and turned things around for them (Chelsea). In his second season at PSG. In his second season, he took them up to their first UEFA Champion's League final, but the Ungrateful bastards sacked him anyway. They must have regretted the decision when he won Chelsea another UCL trophy recently.

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It would be a bad decision from Mbappe because PSG are moving closer to Champions League title. They only need to keep up their good works and a bit more luckiness in their matches to win Champions League.

Real Madrid now are in the early of a new generation and Mbappe will join a club that is similar to PSG a few seasons ago. I think Mbappe will get all he want in PSG. Just a bit more time, a few more seasons. Mbappe is one of most important players in PSG and he will get same position in Real Madrid but without big difference in his position, he should not leave PSG.

Most times, pumping money into players doesn't guarantee champion's League success. Manchester City and PSG have pumped millions for years into buying world-class players, but look what they have achieved in the UCL so far. Nothing!

Meanwhile, on an average season, Real Madrid can still win the UCL.

With a number of star players, PSG does not guarantee that they will win the UCL, the proof is that there are other teams that are even better, even more consistent, for example, last year was Chelsea, so PSG only continues to have ambitions to win trophies with world-class players, but what can a coach do? role in terms of reaching the UCL next season.

Now that Real Madrid is in Ancelotti's hands, how to arrange it will be the best way, plus Mbappe if it is confirmed that his departure to Real Madrid will be much better.

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According to rumors, Griezmann is ready to cut his salary if he remains in Barcelona. If he still has to leave, he wants to return to Atletico Madrid. But in my opinion he is not expected there. Atletico Madrid fans do not want to see him on the team. Griezmann did a great error going to Barcelona.

The negotiations between Atlético Madrid and Fc Barcelona are already going on about Griezman. Since Atlético knows that Fc Barcelona has some salary issues because of the cap and therefore want to get rid of Griezman, Atlético is trying to push the price down a lot, which Fc Barcelona also can't accept. Bad position for Barcelona here I would say.

Mathematics say, if Barca want to register the contract of its new players and Messi, they have 2 possibilities :
1- Get ride of Griezmann and his huge salary = beneficial for the club in terms of introduced money +/- sell other players.
2- Keep Griezmann but reduce his wage and other players salaries too +/- sell other players.
I don't see other solution for the club and ATM know this very well, that's why they try to grab him as cheap as possible!

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Quote from: MusaMohamed on July 26, 2021, 01:21:38 AM

It would be a bad decision from Mbappe because PSG are moving closer to Champions League title. They only need to keep up their good works and a bit more luckiness in their matches to win Champions League.

Real Madrid now are in the early of a new generation and Mbappe will join a club that is similar to PSG a few seasons ago. I think Mbappe will get all he want in PSG. Just a bit more time, a few more seasons. Mbappe is one of most important players in PSG and he will get same position in Real Madrid but without big difference in his position, he should not leave PSG.

Most times, pumping money into players doesn't guarantee champion's League success. Manchester City and PSG have pumped millions for years into buying world-class players, but look what they have achieved in the UCL so far. Nothing!

Meanwhile, on an average season, Real Madrid can still win the UCL.

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Quote from: kassex on July 26, 2021, 10:40:04 AM

According to rumors, Griezmann is ready to cut his salary if he remains in Barcelona. If he still has to leave, he wants to return to Atletico Madrid. But in my opinion he is not expected there. Atletico Madrid fans do not want to see him on the team. Griezmann did a great error going to Barcelona.

The negotiations between Atlético Madrid and Fc Barcelona are already going on about Griezman. Since Atlético knows that Fc Barcelona has some salary issues because of the cap and therefore want to get rid of Griezman, Atlético is trying to push the price down a lot, which Fc Barcelona also can't accept. Bad position for Barcelona here I would say.

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I'm just wondering what would happen if Griezmann really moved to Atletico Madrid. Barcelona left Suarez the previous season. Many said he was old, so leaving him was the right decision. But with the help of Suarez, Atletico Madrid has won the title this season. If Griezmann joins Atletico Madrid, Atletico Madrid will be even stronger.

I don't think there will be much change to Barcelona's game if Griezmann rejoin Atletico Madrid. I know Griezmann has contributed to Barcelona with a number of his goals, but it doesn't look like he will have much of a problem if he goes to Atletico Madrid again. It's true that if Atletico Madrid get Griezmann back then they will be much stronger than last season. Messi and Aguero and Depay are likely to help Barcelona throughout next season. I wouldn't take it too seriously because Barcelona is still the top team out of several team in the Spanish La Liga every season.

If Griezmann leaves Barcelona at the moment and joins Atletico Madrid, Barcelona will have no problem. Barcelona now have plenty and extra Strikers. Barcelona may be planning to release Dembele or Griezmann. But I was saying that Atletico would be stronger if Grismann will join. And next season Real Madrid is forming a very weak team compared to the previous season. So with Griezmann in the squad, Atletico Madrid's chances of winning another title will increase.

Many great forward have bad reputation and performance when play with Lionel Messi on Barcelona, now Griezmann have issues will sell by Barcelona to Atletico Madrid or Juventus because they want to sell many player to pay Messi salary, I think Griezmann is the best forward right now but he not has bigger space in Barcelona because they still have Messi.

I think Barcelona want to play Messi and Aguero together next season. But I would be happy if Griezmann is on the field with Aguero and Messi. Griezmann is a very skilled player. If he gets enough opportunity, he will definitely prove his ability. Barcelona has won many matches for his outstanding performance.

I can't imagine what would happen if they played together they can dominate La Liga even become a champions league finalist against Chelsea or Man city Roll Eyes

Based on the current situation their main competitor is Atletico or if Real Madrid manages to bring in mbappe the situation will change again.

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I'm just wondering what would happen if Griezmann really moved to Atletico Madrid. Barcelona left Suarez the previous season. Many said he was old, so leaving him was the right decision. But with the help of Suarez, Atletico Madrid has won the title this season. If Griezmann joins Atletico Madrid, Atletico Madrid will be even stronger.

I don't think there will be much change to Barcelona's game if Griezmann rejoin Atletico Madrid. I know Griezmann has contributed to Barcelona with a number of his goals, but it doesn't look like he will have much of a problem if he goes to Atletico Madrid again. It's true that if Atletico Madrid get Griezmann back then they will be much stronger than last season. Messi and Aguero and Depay are likely to help Barcelona throughout next season. I wouldn't take it too seriously because Barcelona is still the top team out of several team in the Spanish La Liga every season.

If Griezmann leaves Barcelona at the moment and joins Atletico Madrid, Barcelona will have no problem. Barcelona now have plenty and extra Strikers. Barcelona may be planning to release Dembele or Griezmann. But I was saying that Atletico would be stronger if Grismann will join. And next season Real Madrid is forming a very weak team compared to the previous season. So with Griezmann in the squad, Atletico Madrid's chances of winning another title will increase.

Many great forward have bad reputation and performance when play with Lionel Messi on Barcelona, now Griezmann have issues will sell by Barcelona to Atletico Madrid or Juventus because they want to sell many player to pay Messi salary, I think Griezmann is the best forward right now but he not has bigger space in Barcelona because they still have Messi.

I think Barcelona want to play Messi and Aguero together next season. But I would be happy if Griezmann is on the field with Aguero and Messi. Griezmann is a very skilled player. If he gets enough opportunity, he will definitely prove his ability. Barcelona has won many matches for his outstanding performance.

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If Griezmann leaves Barcelona at the moment and joins Atletico Madrid, Barcelona will have no problem.

It's possible. But who knows?
My guess so far is that the Dutch coach hasn't been good enough at Barcelona all season regardless of how many players he can count on. I think Koeman is the coach who didn't get the respect of a lot of fans after Luis Van Gaal when he was at Manchester United. I don't really know why Barcelona didn't try to find a replacement after so many disappointing results last season. I'm not going to say he's bullshit, but I don't like him getting a contract longer than next season at Barcelona.

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I'm just wondering what would happen if Griezmann really moved to Atletico Madrid. Barcelona left Suarez the previous season. Many said he was old, so leaving him was the right decision. But with the help of Suarez, Atletico Madrid has won the title this season. If Griezmann joins Atletico Madrid, Atletico Madrid will be even stronger.

I don't think there will be much change to Barcelona's game if Griezmann rejoin Atletico Madrid. I know Griezmann has contributed to Barcelona with a number of his goals, but it doesn't look like he will have much of a problem if he goes to Atletico Madrid again. It's true that if Atletico Madrid get Griezmann back then they will be much stronger than last season. Messi and Aguero and Depay are likely to help Barcelona throughout next season. I wouldn't take it too seriously because Barcelona is still the top team out of several team in the Spanish La Liga every season.

If Griezmann leaves Barcelona at the moment and joins Atletico Madrid, Barcelona will have no problem. Barcelona now have plenty and extra Strikers. Barcelona may be planning to release Dembele or Griezmann. But I was saying that Atletico would be stronger if Grismann will join. And next season Real Madrid is forming a very weak team compared to the previous season. So with Griezmann in the squad, Atletico Madrid's chances of winning another title will increase.

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