La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 4150.

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Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on August 10, 2021, 10:55:47 PM

On the other hands, Lionel Messi posters are already being TORN DOWN from the outside of the Nou Camp. I am not a fan of Barcelona and I don't hate them but it is shameful from what Barcelona did recent years to Messi and other legendary players in Camp Nou.

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It is very regrettable for this action, because in my opinion Messi's move on a Free Transfer is not the fault of Barcelona or Messi. According to the news I read in the media, Messi and Barcelona have already reached an agreement for a contract extension. However, neither could be achieved due to La Liga regulatory issues. Turning down the image of Messi, like making messi as a player who has betrayed Barca, if the news about the regulation issue is true, then barca fans prove that they have no respect for the club or for messi who had to leave Barca because he want to save their clubs.

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Quote from: Luzin on August 11, 2021, 07:20:13 AM

Three days from the start of La Liga, Valencia vs Getafe will be the opening La Liga match. In this match I favor Valencia in this match. Valencia will play at home and at least last year Valencia ranked better than Getafe. Valencia in 13th position and Getafe in 15th position in the final standings.

At least I'm still waiting for the classic match Madrid vs Barca. Unfortunately it will still be a long wait because it will take place at the end of October.

you're not the only one who sided with valencia, i think all those who watched must have no one who sided with getave, because we saw from the two meetings they were mostly won by valencia, it is certain that the prediction between valencia and getave was won by valencia, maybe valencia will win by a score 2-0, we can't wait for the league to start.

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Quote from: Luzin on August 11, 2021, 07:20:13 AM

Three days from the start of La Liga, Valencia vs Getafe will be the opening La Liga match. In this match I favor Valencia in this match. Valencia will play at home and at least last year Valencia ranked better than Getafe. Valencia in 13th position and Getafe in 15th position in the final standings.

I have a feeling that Getafe will win their match against Valencia at the Mestalla, in a friendly match, Getafe have never even lost once. While Valencia they are also pretty good in their friendly matches, but they have lost 2 times, the first to Real Zaragoza and the second to Brentford.

More or less, this will affect the psychology of the team's victory

Quote from: Luzin on August 11, 2021, 07:20:13 AM

At least I'm still waiting for the classic match Madrid vs Barca. Unfortunately it will still be a long wait because it will take place at the end of October.

After the departure of Messi and Ronaldo, La Liga has lost their icon, maybe El Clasico this time will be very boring.

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Quote from: skarais on August 11, 2021, 05:13:09 AM

Maybe Barcelona wouldn't be so bad without Messi, but Messi is a player who can give something different to Barcelona's match. There is a much greater passion for watching the game when we see him involved in every Barcelona match and now I don't know if it will be very boring or not. For sure, Barcelona is a team and not just one player. It is impossible to expect him to be present all the time because if not this year then a few years from now Messi will also retire from the world of football as an active player.

Messi is a talented player, real team leader. He is more than just a good striker who scores goals all the time. I watched his conference and he was really depressed that he needed to leave the club. It doesn't matter if Barcelona is worse, or better without Messi, this man is a legend and he has done a lot for the club over the years.

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Three days from the start of La Liga, Valencia vs Getafe will be the opening La Liga match. In this match I favor Valencia in this match. Valencia will play at home and at least last year Valencia ranked better than Getafe. Valencia in 13th position and Getafe in 15th position in the final standings.

At least I'm still waiting for the classic match Madrid vs Barca. Unfortunately it will still be a long wait because it will take place at the end of October.

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Quote from: hd49728 on August 11, 2021, 01:13:01 AM

You are right. In the past season, when Barcelona have to play without Messi, their results are not too bad. With Messi, they can not win La Liga and are struggling to end in top 4. Without Messi, I believe they will be able to get a position in top 4. It means the difference is not dramatic.

Maybe Barcelona wouldn't be so bad without Messi, but Messi is a player who can give something different to Barcelona's match. There is a much greater passion for watching the game when we see him involved in every Barcelona match and now I don't know if it will be very boring or not. For sure, Barcelona is a team and not just one player. It is impossible to expect him to be present all the time because if not this year then a few years from now Messi will also retire from the world of football as an active player.

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Quote from: hd49728 on August 11, 2021, 01:13:01 AM

Quote from: Luzin on August 10, 2021, 09:36:49 PM

At least the appearance against Juve gave a little hope. They performed quite well although this cannot describe them in the League or UCL matches. Barca without messi will still be able to compete. Although I believe what you say is true. They are in the process of regeneration, starting to renew the golden age with messi who has left.
At least Koeman has this task, he has to think smart with the current players. Financial problems seem to be preventing Koeman from shopping new more great players.

Barcelona in the last couple of years, gave hope to their fans this way. They are more similar as Arsenal but at higher levels. They are strong most of times in a season but in important matches, they lost and all other good results in are non sense generally.

You are right. Last season they had enough hope to win the title. But they could not maintain the continuity of the performance towards the end of the season. They have lost some important matches. Even with weaker opponents they have shared points and lost some matches. As a result, they fell off the road to winning the title.

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Quote from: Luzin on August 10, 2021, 09:36:49 PM

At least the appearance against Juve gave a little hope. They performed quite well although this cannot describe them in the League or UCL matches. Barca without messi will still be able to compete. Although I believe what you say is true. They are in the process of regeneration, starting to renew the golden age with messi who has left.
At least Koeman has this task, he has to think smart with the current players. Financial problems seem to be preventing Koeman from shopping new more great players.

Barcelona in the last couple of years, gave hope to their fans this way. They are more similar as Arsenal but at higher levels. They are strong most of times in a season but in important matches, they lost and all other good results in are non sense generally.

Quote from: hahay on August 10, 2021, 11:57:51 PM

Yes, even though it was only a friendly match but it looks like both teams played quite seriously too and yes, the big win can also be a motivation for the team in the first match later. Basically a team must be able to play with high cohesiveness although indeed, sometimes in a team there is at least one influential player in the match but this cannot be relied on forever.

Clubs are in ending of their pre-season trainings so such friendly match are last chances for them to correct their players and tactics for the coming season. It is understandable to see they played the friendly match very seriously. Barcelona did it better than Juventus and brought a little hope to fans.

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With the departure of Messi, I still hope that Barcelona can perform well, because if I look at some of the history when Messi is unable to play due to injury, at least it is enough to make Barcelona unable to perform consistently. Now it's a different situation because Messi has really left, and the team has to move on and fight together while keeping the team together is something that is important.

You are right. In the past season, when Barcelona have to play without Messi, their results are not too bad. With Messi, they can not win La Liga and are struggling to end in top 4. Without Messi, I believe they will be able to get a position in top 4. It means the difference is not dramatic.

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Quote from: Luzin on August 10, 2021, 09:36:49 PM

Quote from: Lordhermes on August 10, 2021, 08:05:44 PM

Messi leaving Barcelona will really affect the team.When a tram is built on a particular player,It makes the whole team loose confidence when playing without that player.Now that Messi is no longer at Barca,let's see if the other players that are at Barca prove to the world that they can still do well without Messi.

At least the appearance against Juve gave a little hope. They performed quite well although this cannot describe them in the League or UCL matches. Barca without messi will still be able to compete. Although I believe what you say is true. They are in the process of regeneration, starting to renew the golden age with messi who has left.
At least Koeman has this task, he has to think smart with the current players. Financial problems seem to be preventing Koeman from shopping new more great players.

Yes, even though it was only a friendly match but it looks like both teams played quite seriously too and yes, the big win can also be a motivation for the team in the first match later. Basically a team must be able to play with high cohesiveness although indeed, sometimes in a team there is at least one influential player in the match but this cannot be relied on forever. With the departure of Messi, I still hope that Barcelona can perform well, because if I look at some of the history when Messi is unable to play due to injury, at least it is enough to make Barcelona unable to perform consistently. Now it's a different situation because Messi has really left, and the team has to move on and fight together while keeping the team together is something that is important.

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Quote from: kassex on August 10, 2021, 01:39:17 PM

Laliga has lost several million Messi fans today. Plus, the classics this season will be watched by a record low number of viewers. Spain will lose its place in the Champions League for several years. But let's hope that La Liga will return much stronger than it was.

Indeed, Barcelona had the worldwide fan for Messi. His departure was unexpected. Currently Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar are the most popular soccer players. None of them are in any La Liga club now. As a result La Liga will loss it's worldwide fame gradually. El Clasico won't be exciting like it was in the past. However, we might see a competitive and exciting La Liga season like before. But Barcelona won't be consider as most favourite team of upcoming season.

You're right, with the current situation every team has an equal chance competition becomes more competitive
Watching every match might be a little boring like you said there are no special matches like El Clasico, La Liga's appeal will slowly fade at least this season

For those who want to earn money, I recommend going to the Stock Market and buying a few shares for PSG, when Real Madrid let CR7 go when he arrived at Juventus, Juve shares grew a lot there were many winners, now with him PSG I'm sure the same story will happen. It is unfortunate that the Spanish League has lost the two best in the world, I think that now many fans will begin to follow the French and Italian leagues much more, the players who are in those leagues are very good and more surprises may arise in terms of stars it means.

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Quote from: Luzin on August 10, 2021, 09:36:49 PM

At least the appearance against Juve gave a little hope. They performed quite well although this cannot describe them in the League or UCL matches. Barca without messi will still be able to compete. Although I believe what you say is true. They are in the process of regeneration, starting to renew the golden age with messi who has left.
At least Koeman has this task, he has to think smart with the current players. Financial problems seem to be preventing Koeman from shopping new more great players.

Koeman and Barcelona prepared for the No-Messi future in the last 2 seasons and with the shines from Ansu Fati and Pedrid, they have more confidence to keep this plan.

The friendly match against Juventus is great enough for them to head towards a future without Messi.

On the other hands, Lionel Messi posters are already being TORN DOWN from the outside of the Nou Camp. I am not a fan of Barcelona and I don't hate them but it is shameful from what Barcelona did recent years to Messi and other legendary players in Camp Nou.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on August 10, 2021, 08:05:44 PM

Messi leaving Barcelona will really affect the team.When a tram is built on a particular player,It makes the whole team loose confidence when playing without that player.Now that Messi is no longer at Barca,let's see if the other players that are at Barca prove to the world that they can still do well without Messi.

At least the appearance against Juve gave a little hope. They performed quite well although this cannot describe them in the League or UCL matches. Barca without messi will still be able to compete. Although I believe what you say is true. They are in the process of regeneration, starting to renew the golden age with messi who has left.
At least Koeman has this task, he has to think smart with the current players. Financial problems seem to be preventing Koeman from shopping new more great players.

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Messi leaving Barcelona will really affect the team.When a tram is built on a particular player,It makes the whole team loose confidence when playing without that player.Now that Messi is no longer at Barca,let's see if the other players that are at Barca prove to the world that they can still do well without Messi.

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Quote from: snipie on August 10, 2021, 07:22:17 AM

Barcelona will get relieved a little tho since they are struggling to sign newly signed players.. Loaning or selling players is a must. Umtiti for example doesn't want to leave Barca but he is threatened to not play if he doesn't accept a loan offer from French (Nice, Monaco) or Turkish (Besiktas) clubs. Braithwaite also refused to leave after a deal was reached. Koeman is in an awkward situation right now.

I don't know about Pjanic but Umtiti can't join Beşiktaş with that wage bill. That was a rumor a few weeks ago but now Beşiktaş focus on Diego Godin for stopper position. Even if they want Umtiti they can't pay his wage, only a part of it maybe 2 million Euro which is not okay for Barcelona because they try to reduce their wage bill. Braithwaite is also earning good at Barca, I don't think any other team would pay him same amount of money. Things are though for Barca, from now on they should think twice before giving stupid amount of wages to players.

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Hearing that Paris SG is interested in Messi, I read news that Barcelona management will complain about Paris SG. They claimed that the financial situation of the Paris team is worse than Barcelona.

This is another unprofessional response from Barcelona. If they can not keep Messi, they should respect him from all contributions he did for the club, and let him go. They should keep silent and support Messi for the new contract in PSG.

Oppositely to what they should do, they attacked PSG and tried to challenge Messi and PSG. I don't like it.

Where do read that news, mate?
If it is true, it will be very shameful for Barcelona. It is like the attitude of a child who lost his toy. Barcelona shouldn't act like this, a very unprofessional attitude. I agree with you if Barcelona must support Messi's decision. He already gave everything to Barcelona, now it is time for him to move. Barcelona management has no right to refuse Messi's decision. If Barcelona management really attacks PSG, they will lose people's respect. And finally, many Barca fans will leave Barcelona suddenly, especially those who are fanatic Messi fans.

It is probably true and I read the news as well. Problem is Barca is looking childish and petty but they are absolutely right. They can't give new contract to Messi because financial fair play and PSG can? With Neymar, Mbappe, Donaruma, Ramos, Di Maria, Veratti and Icardi already in the team? Please, they are making fun of that rule and should be kicked from Europe because of that. Not gonna happen, but then it is better to dismiss with the rule or put on proper Salary Cap like USA and make sure everybody is compliant.

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Quote from: hd49728 on August 09, 2021, 10:37:21 AM

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Hearing that Paris SG is interested in Messi, I read news that Barcelona management will complain about Paris SG. They claimed that the financial situation of the Paris team is worse than Barcelona.

This is another unprofessional response from Barcelona. If they can not keep Messi, they should respect him from all contributions he did for the club, and let him go. They should keep silent and support Messi for the new contract in PSG.

Oppositely to what they should do, they attacked PSG and tried to challenge Messi and PSG. I don't like it.

Where do read that news, mate?
If it is true, it will be very shameful for Barcelona. It is like the attitude of a child who lost his toy. Barcelona shouldn't act like this, a very unprofessional attitude. I agree with you if Barcelona must support Messi's decision. He already gave everything to Barcelona, now it is time for him to move. Barcelona management has no right to refuse Messi's decision. If Barcelona management really attacks PSG, they will lose people's respect. And finally, many Barca fans will leave Barcelona suddenly, especially those who are fanatic Messi fans.

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Quote from: hd49728 on August 09, 2021, 10:37:21 AM

Quote from: W Jr. on August 09, 2021, 10:00:40 AM

Regardless, Barcelona shouldn't have lost Messi. If he had offered to pay his salary and get a 10% discount from the other players, I think the team would have accepted it. If this was done, of course, the balance in the team could be upset.

From what I understand, Messi can not cut his salary more than 50% because of La Liga rule as well. La Liga does not accept difference in salary between two seasons is more than 50%. Is it real rule from La Liga?

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Hearing that Paris SG is interested in Messi, I read news that Barcelona management will complain about Paris SG. They claimed that the financial situation of the Paris team is worse than Barcelona.

This is another unprofessional response from Barcelona. If they can not keep Messi, they should respect him from all contributions he did for the club, and let him go. They should keep silent and support Messi for the new contract in PSG.

Oppositely to what they should do, they attacked PSG and tried to challenge Messi and PSG. I don't like it.

Regarding Messi's future regardless of what they have to do to the player, PSG has always been a team that supports the great stars, Cavanni did very well, Neymar Jr is doing well, I think that if Barcelona He is taking Messi out the back door, his greatest punishment will be that when Messi enters PSG (if it is the team he will go to) it is that he will take many tournaments and titles from Barcelona, even if Messi is an already veteran player You cannot compare his talent with another player, it is something like the case of Cristiano Ronaldo, a team that enters, a team that will reap more titles.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on August 10, 2021, 02:50:40 PM

Quote from: kassex on August 10, 2021, 01:39:17 PM

Laliga has lost several million Messi fans today. Plus, the classics this season will be watched by a record low number of viewers. Spain will lose its place in the Champions League for several years. But let's hope that La Liga will return much stronger than it was.

Indeed, Barcelona had the worldwide fan for Messi. His departure was unexpected. Currently Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar are the most popular soccer players. None of them are in any La Liga club now. As a result La Liga will loss it's worldwide fame gradually. El Clasico won't be exciting like it was in the past. However, we might see a competitive and exciting La Liga season like before. But Barcelona won't be consider as most favourite team of upcoming season.

You're right, with the current situation every team has an equal chance competition becomes more competitive
Watching every match might be a little boring like you said there are no special matches like El Clasico, La Liga's appeal will slowly fade at least this season

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Quote from: kassex on August 10, 2021, 01:39:17 PM

Laliga has lost several million Messi fans today. Plus, the classics this season will be watched by a record low number of viewers. Spain will lose its place in the Champions League for several years. But let's hope that La Liga will return much stronger than it was.

Indeed, Barcelona had the worldwide fan for Messi. His departure was unexpected. Currently Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar are the most popular soccer players. None of them are in any La Liga club now. As a result La Liga will loss it's worldwide fame gradually. El Clasico won't be exciting like it was in the past. However, we might see a competitive and exciting La Liga season like before. But Barcelona won't be consider as most favourite team of upcoming season.

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