La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 4156.

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Alaba is a really sensible transfer for Real Madrid. Because they have lost Ramos and they are really close to lose Varane to Manchester Utd also. In this case, they were going to need a good defender desperately. Actually they still need a decent defender in case Varane leaves I think. But at least, they won't need to rush things.

Yes it was a needed deal and they still need several players in different positions a central defender and some wing players since the current ones did not perform well this season plus hazard many injuries so they can compete in the different competitions.

Alaba arrival to Madrid will certainly be able to cover the position left by Ramos, especially since Alaba is a player who can play in several positions, namely as a center back, left back, and defensive midfielder. so that Alaba can be placed in various central positions, especially if Varane is gone, of course Alaba will be plotted with Eder Militao in guarding the Real Madrid defense, because so far the position of center back has always been filled by the Ramos-Varane ,
But I agree with you, if madrid still need a few more defenders if varane is really going to leave.

Certainly yes! Madrid still need more experience and quality defenders,Atleast two to complement Alaba at that defence since Ramos and Varane has already left to PSG and Man-U respectively. A solid defence can enhance their tittle chace next season.Their front is already ok,but still think they need to add more depth to their midfield.

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Quote from: Raflesia on July 17, 2021, 02:02:27 PM

I am not sure about Aguero who will contribute much to Barcelona this season because he is not young anymore while Barcelona's style of play is always different even though this is already a relative of messi later it will be a striker duel but maybe this will be on Kun Aguero ?

How can you assume he won't contribute much because he wasn't young anymore? You look like very underestimate him. I am not a Barcelona fan, but I appreciate that Barcelona was successful to sign Aguero. He is one of the top strikers in the world that have many good histories in his career. All people know he has great skills and mentality as a striker. Assuming he won't contribute much is an unreasonable thing, you have no valid reason for this. You ignore the fact that he is one of the key players of Man City and Atletico Madrid in past. He is one of the players who had a big role in the success of the two clubs previously. Of course, he will do the same in Barcelona.

Yeah, we can't know that now. Because there is a really good example about this topic. Luis Suarez is 34 years old but we all know that he had a great season at Atletico in the last season. He scored 21 goals in 32 La Liga games. Maybe Aguero can do a similar thing also. By having Messi beside him, he can score easier than ever.

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Quote from: hahay on July 17, 2021, 09:22:56 PM

Age affects the style of play and you can't compare the style of play in the past and now because again, age will affect the style of play on the field.

When players get older, they will have to change their playing style. Young players can depend on speed and physical strength. When they are older, they will play will their experience and can make excellent decisions with more accurate passing and shots.

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Look at how Ronaldo was at the end of his season with Juventus, Ronaldo's movements were not the same as when he was in the uniforms of Manchester United and Real Madrid. When Ronaldo played in these two teams, his movements were very agile, so he continued to make many movements that bothered the opponent, but now that he is no longer young, at least we can see a change in his playing style, which is just waiting for the ball.

Ronaldo changed from a wing back with good dribbling skills to become a striker. His chances are clearer after the transfer to Real Madrid. In Juventus, Ronaldo play more at left side and does more dribblings than in Real Madrid but he does no longer depend on his speed.

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Therefore, I personally think a player with an age who is no longer young then of course he will not be as good as in the past even though his role on the field is still needed but still, a player with an old age will only be good for a motivation for his teammates.

Ibrahimovic came to AC Milan and brought confidence to his teammates. You can compare how bad Ante Rebic played before Ibra joined Milan and after that. Two seasons ago, Ibra joined Milan after the Winter transfer season, and changed Ante Rebic a lot.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on July 17, 2021, 04:59:13 PM

Quote from: Raflesia on July 17, 2021, 02:02:27 PM

I am not sure about Aguero who will contribute much to Barcelona this season because he is not young anymore while Barcelona's style of play is always different even though this is already a relative of messi later it will be a striker duel but maybe this will be on Kun Aguero ?

How can you assume he won't contribute much because he wasn't young anymore? You look like very underestimate him. I am not a Barcelona fan, but I appreciate that Barcelona was successful to sign Aguero. He is one of the top strikers in the world that have many good histories in his career. All people know he has great skills and mentality as a striker. Assuming he won't contribute much is an unreasonable thing, you have no valid reason for this. You ignore the fact that he is one of the key players of Man City and Atletico Madrid in past. He is one of the players who had a big role in the success of the two clubs previously. Of course, he will do the same in Barcelona.

Age affects the style of play and you can't compare the style of play in the past and now because again, age will affect the style of play on the field. Look at how Ronaldo was at the end of his season with Juventus, Ronaldo's movements were not the same as when he was in the uniforms of Manchester United and Real Madrid. When Ronaldo played in these two teams, his movements were very agile, so he continued to make many movements that bothered the opponent, but now that he is no longer young, at least we can see a change in his playing style, which is just waiting for the ball. Therefore, I personally think a player with an age who is no longer young then of course he will not be as good as in the past even though his role on the field is still needed but still, a player with an old age will only be good for a motivation for his teammates.

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Quote from: Joca97 on July 17, 2021, 03:06:33 PM

Real Madrid is in a crisis with the money. As i have heard they are in huge debts and are cutting of big wages so i think this will last for 1-2 season until they make a lot of profit to buy big players. Mbappe wont join probobly Real Madrid because either PSG will ask for an outrages fee. But i heard even that the PSG owner said that they dont want to sell Mbappe at all.

Barcelona also has an equally big financial crisis, and maybe even a bigger one, the soap opera with the signing of a new contract by Messi is a vivid confirmation of this, but the Catalan club is nevertheless trying to be active in the transfer market. There was even information that the Barcelona players were unhappy that the club forced them to sign agreements on salary cuts, but at the same time they were signing new players with potentially higher wages than the current players.

Barcelona is in a serious financial crisis. so they reduced the salaries of some players and tried to sell some players who did not contribute.
Then some players who were brought in by Barcelona on a free transfer, what Barcelona did was already on the right track. But there is good news
from Spanish media Marca, said Barcelona had secured a loan from Goldman Sachs, an American bank, of 500 million euros. This means that
Barcelona get big funds to buy players in the transfer market, although the funds will partly be used by Barcelona to cover old debts. But at least
Barcelona can be active in the transfer market.

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Quote from: Joca97 on July 17, 2021, 03:06:33 PM

Real Madrid is in a crisis with the money. As i have heard they are in huge debts and are cutting of big wages so i think this will last for 1-2 season until they make a lot of profit to buy big players. Mbappe wont join probobly Real Madrid because either PSG will ask for an outrages fee. But i heard even that the PSG owner said that they dont want to sell Mbappe at all.

Barcelona also has an equally big financial crisis, and maybe even a bigger one, the soap opera with the signing of a new contract by Messi is a vivid confirmation of this, but the Catalan club is nevertheless trying to be active in the transfer market. There was even information that the Barcelona players were unhappy that the club forced them to sign agreements on salary cuts, but at the same time they were signing new players with potentially higher wages than the current players. Real Madrid has a fairly competitive squad, but strengthening is certainly necessary and the absence of Real Madrid players in the Spanish national team at the last European Championship leads to certain reflections.

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Quote from: Raflesia on July 17, 2021, 02:02:27 PM

I am not sure about Aguero who will contribute much to Barcelona this season because he is not young anymore while Barcelona's style of play is always different even though this is already a relative of messi later it will be a striker duel but maybe this will be on Kun Aguero ?

How can you assume he won't contribute much because he wasn't young anymore? You look like very underestimate him. I am not a Barcelona fan, but I appreciate that Barcelona was successful to sign Aguero. He is one of the top strikers in the world that have many good histories in his career. All people know he has great skills and mentality as a striker. Assuming he won't contribute much is an unreasonable thing, you have no valid reason for this. You ignore the fact that he is one of the key players of Man City and Atletico Madrid in past. He is one of the players who had a big role in the success of the two clubs previously. Of course, he will do the same in Barcelona.

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Quote from: Joca97 on July 17, 2021, 03:06:33 PM

Real Madrid is in a crisis with the money. As i have heard they are in huge debts and are cutting of big wages so i think this will last for 1-2 season until they make a lot of profit to buy big players. Mbappe wont join probobly Real Madrid because either PSG will ask for an outrages fee. But i heard even that the PSG owner said that they dont want to sell Mbappe at all.

Of course, they don't wanna sell him but If Mbappé refuses to pen down a contract extension, they risk being the big losers (Mbappé leaves next summer on a free transfer)
Who in this current situation would want to miss out making $150M+ on such a potential world-class player?

I think Real Madrid isn't in a worse situation as Barça when it comes to finances right now, but Barça are signing or at least trying to make bids.

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Quote from: Altryist on July 17, 2021, 05:14:29 AM

Griezmann did not fit into Barcelona properly, although the whole season was not very successful for Barcelona, so it is difficult to judge the individual results of each player. It also takes time become part of the team, perhaps if Griezman had more time, he could open up in Barcelona.

I highly disagree with that statement. If you ask me Griezmann is a perfect Barcelona type of player, he was always like that for whole his career and when he went to Barcelona I believed that they did a wonderful move and it was a great transfer.

What I can probably agree is that Griezmann is getting older and Barcelona wants to keep Messi on the team so they have to send some players to other teams to cover the difference to make it financially fair play for everyone, but that is still not something that means Griezmann was or is a bad player that doesn't fit Barcelona style, he was always using the same tactic as Barcelona played and he fit very perfectly there. However dude is 30 now and if they keep him few more years then they can't sell him for a good amount, now when they have the chance they may get as much as 50-70 million levels and that is a good amount, in 2 years he will not be even 30-40 so they are after making a profit.

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If aguero didn't express his key role in Manchester city last season, I think he knew his time was up in maybe top flight but Barcelona was something he couldn't miss, but with less appearance at Manchester city last season and for Argentina, I think honestly he would be sparsely used by Barcelona in the Spanish LaLiga, except he replicate what Luis Suarez did at Atletico Madrid, then he might not have an exciting Barcelona career, I believe in aguero and if Ronaldo, Messi and Ibrahimovic and more great aged players are still active then aguero has nothing to worry about age, if he works for fitness.

Aguero is a year younger than Luis Suarez but I still choose Suarez as the best of the two. Aguero will take the place Suarez left at Barcelona, he is a striker and I'm sure he knows what Barcelona bought him for. Hoping that Aguero can fit into Barcelona's style of play, he will have to prove himself worthy to be in that team.

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Quote from: MAAManda on July 17, 2021, 11:57:41 AM

From the news I have heard, Real Madrid is not unwilling to sign players, they already have their radar and it looks like it will be difficult for them to get their targets, like Mbappe, they really want Mbappe at the moment, certainly not a decision for Mbappe to leave PSG.

I really don't know what's going on in Real Madrid. Without some good signings, I don't think Carlo Ancelotti will cope well enough. Zidane was good because there is a way he would utilize low class players too during the times of injuries. The Defense and attack could really use some good signings this summer. The Midfield is still perfect for another season.

Real Madrid is in a crisis with the money. As i have heard they are in huge debts and are cutting of big wages so i think this will last for 1-2 season until they make a lot of profit to buy big players. Mbappe wont join probobly Real Madrid because either PSG will ask for an outrages fee. But i heard even that the PSG owner said that they dont want to sell Mbappe at all.

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Quote from: MAAManda on July 17, 2021, 11:57:41 AM

From the news I have heard, Real Madrid is not unwilling to sign players, they already have their radar and it looks like it will be difficult for them to get their targets, like Mbappe, they really want Mbappe at the moment, certainly not a decision for Mbappe to leave PSG.

I really don't know what's going on in Real Madrid. Without some good signings, I don't think Carlo Ancelotti will cope well enough. Zidane was good because there is a way he would utilize low class players too during the times of injuries. The Defense and attack could really use some good signings this summer. The Midfield is still perfect for another season.

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If aguero didn't express his key role in Manchester city last season, I think he knew his time was up in maybe top flight but Barcelona was something he couldn't miss, but with less appearance at Manchester city last season and for Argentina, I think honestly he would be sparsely used by Barcelona in the Spanish LaLiga, except he replicate what Luis Suarez did at Atletico Madrid, then he might not have an exciting Barcelona career, I believe in aguero and if Ronaldo, Messi and Ibrahimovic and more great aged players are still active then aguero has nothing to worry about age, if he works for fitness.

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Everything takes process and time, so yes I agree with your opinion if Griezmann has a lot of time at Barcelona we will be able to see the real quality of this player.

How much time do you think the coach and his team should give Griezmann to prove his quality as a player that Barcelona deserves to keep?

Griezmann, who was recruited by Barcelona from Atletico Madrid in the last few season, has not shown sign of being worthy of being offered a long-term contract. Arda Turan and Griezmann are two players who when they played at Atletico Madrid were very good and became the pride of their team, but after Barcelona were interested in signing him, they played far from expectation. Many players who have been brought in by Barcelona recently have not lived up to expectation, Dembele, Coutinho and several others have the same fate. I doubt one of the Manchester City players who is new to Barcelona's contract, will he also suffer the same fate as Miralem Pjanic?

I am not sure about Aguero who will contribute much to Barcelona this season because he is not young anymore while Barcelona's style of play is always different even though this is already a relative of messi later it will be a striker duel but maybe this will be on Kun Aguero ?

Indeed, lately there have been many Barcelona recruits to become his squad after bringing many no results that Griezmann expects, one of which may be a mismatch in the atmosphere of the game there so they don't develop better like at Atletico Mardrid.

However, only Messi needs to be maintained to remain the best player for Barcelona.

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Quote from: MAAManda on July 17, 2021, 06:23:40 AM

Everything takes process and time, so yes I agree with your opinion if Griezmann has a lot of time at Barcelona we will be able to see the real quality of this player.

How much time do you think the coach and his team should give Griezmann to prove his quality as a player that Barcelona deserves to keep?

Griezmann, who was recruited by Barcelona from Atletico Madrid in the last few season, has not shown sign of being worthy of being offered a long-term contract. Arda Turan and Griezmann are two players who when they played at Atletico Madrid were very good and became the pride of their team, but after Barcelona were interested in signing him, they played far from expectation. Many players who have been brought in by Barcelona recently have not lived up to expectation, Dembele, Coutinho and several others have the same fate. I doubt one of the Manchester City players who is new to Barcelona's contract, will he also suffer the same fate as Miralem Pjanic?

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Quote from: AakZaki on July 17, 2021, 11:35:24 AM

But the news today I heard that barca had extended Messi's contract, he sold Griezmann for Saul from Atletico. Reportedly again Messi is willing to cut his salary by 50% and a 5-year contract extension and will continue to be barca's brand ambassador.

Yeah that news also took me as a surprise. I thought maybe Barcelona thinking of selling Griezmann to get into better condition but they really thought it well by also trying to get Saul in midfield. I think this as a very well thought plan actually. This could really improve their mid and offload the extra wing player. As for Messi, guess it was all just drama in the end and yet we thought of dream close to coming true of watching him in different league.

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According to Transfermarkt, Tottenham and Sevilla agreed on Jules Kounde deal but the player rejected it. It's not hard to predict the reason why. Because Tottenham are in the Europa Conference League now but Sevilla have qualified for the Champions League. Why would he want to go to Tottenham in the end? He should be happy at Sevilla now. But if an offer comes from big teams in the future, I've no doubt that he'd be keen on going there. For example, Sevilla rejected a €55m offer from Manchester City before. I guess he'd like to play there.

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Quote from: AakZaki on July 17, 2021, 11:35:24 AM

I'm curious about Madrid, they have nothing to lose, and it looks like their finances are better than Barca. Why don't they buy new players? It makes me sad because I am a madrid fan.

From the news I have heard, Real Madrid is not unwilling to sign players, they already have their radar and it looks like it will be difficult for them to get their targets, like Mbappe, they really want Mbappe at the moment, certainly not a decision for Mbappe to leave PSG.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on July 16, 2021, 05:52:40 AM

We all hope Madrid will bought some new players. But we did not see any news of the purchase of new players from the Madrid management. We have not heard any rumors about it. If Madrid does not buy new players, La Liga will not be as competitive as before. ~snip~

I'm curious about Madrid, they have nothing to lose, and it looks like their finances are better than Barca. Why don't they buy new players? It makes me sad because I am a madrid fan. But the news today I heard that barca had extended Messi's contract, he sold Griezmann for Saul from Atletico. Reportedly again Messi is willing to cut his salary by 50% and a 5-year contract extension and will continue to be barca's brand ambassador.

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Quote from: Maidak on July 17, 2021, 09:21:49 AM

It would be better for Barcelona to replace Griezmann in exchange for a player without selling. It would be good for Barcelona if Barcelona got a talented defender or midfielder in place of Griezmann. Barcelona's forward is strong now. They need to make the defense stronger now.

The sale of Griezman was done to save Barcelona expenses, moreover Griezman is one of the players who received the biggest salary so far in Barcelona besides Messi, but it seems that a large salary will not necessarily guarantee a player can show his best performance and during 2 seasons in Barcelona uniform, Griezman was not able to show performance as he had shown when he was still playing for Atletico Madrid, and now Barcelona are planning to exchange Griezman with Saul Niguez, I think this exchange will be very detrimental to Atletico Madrid because Saul Niguez's performance has been quite consistent and has contributed a lot to the team, moreover Atletico Madrid must include 15 million pounds as a condition to get Griezman from Barcelona.

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