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Quote from: abhiseshakana on July 14, 2021, 01:25:11 PM

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I disagree with you, Greizmann earns himself close to 800k weekly and i do not believe he is forcing a move. I think Barcelona are just desperately trying to reduce their wage cap (as authorized by la liga laws) so that Messia is allowed to sign a new contract. Another important factor is that Barcelona are offering Griezmann and other players for sale which means they cannot dictate selling fee.

Last season, Antoine Griezmann had the highest salary under Messi. If on a new contract Messi is willing to be paid a salary reduced by 50%, then Antoine Griezmann becomes the player with the most expensive salary at Barcelona. To comply with La Liga's financial fair play rules, Barcelona should earn new revenue or reduce its expenses. Since Barcelona has chosen to extend Messi's contract, one of their best options is to sell Griezmann or loan him out to reduce their wage cap.

Griezmann is not very successful in Barcelona. He did not perform as well as Barcelona had hoped. In this situation, Barcelona is not interested in keeping Griezmann in the team by paying so much salary. Aguero could be included in the squad as a replacement for Griezmann.

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Well now everything is going well for Barcelona, perhaps winning the Copa América gave the team the go-ahead so that it could renew with Messi, and just when the Argentine was thinking of going to try another team, Barcelona did not let him go.

Barcelona close to announcing Messi contract extension - report

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Lionel Messi’s contract extension at Barcelona could be finally announced shortly, according to multiple reports on Wednesday.

L’Esportiu report that Messi has agreed a five-year deal and a “significant” pay cut. The deal could be announced as early as Thursday or Friday “if there are no last-minute setbacks.”

The report adds there’s a termination clause set at €600 million and La Liga president Javier Tebas has already had a look at the deal and seems pretty happy with it.

Source: https://www.barcablaugranes.com/2021/7/14/22576855/barcelona-close-to-announcing-messi-contract-extension-report

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Quote from: youdacapt on July 14, 2021, 08:53:46 AM

I disagree with you, Greizmann earns himself close to 800k weekly and i do not believe he is forcing a move. I think Barcelona are just desperately trying to reduce their wage cap (as authorized by la liga laws) so that Messia is allowed to sign a new contract. Another important factor is that Barcelona are offering Griezmann and other players for sale which means they cannot dictate selling fee.

Last season, Antoine Griezmann had the highest salary under Messi. If on a new contract Messi is willing to be paid a salary reduced by 50%, then Antoine Griezmann becomes the player with the most expensive salary at Barcelona. To comply with La Liga's financial fair play rules, Barcelona should earn new revenue or reduce its expenses. Since Barcelona has chosen to extend Messi's contract, one of their best options is to sell Griezmann or loan him out to reduce their wage cap.

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According to rumours, Messi accepted to get half of his old salary and sign a new 5-year contract with Barcelona. I hope this is not true. He played at Barcelona for so many years and I think that should be enough. And as long as he continues to stay here, it doesn't look like he will win the CL title. Barcelona are far away from their old performance. If Messi went to PSG or City, he would win many titles compared to Barcelona.

And there's been some rumours too about PSG that they gave up on Messi as his demands were too high.

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We know in advance about Ramos who is being talked about, but next season there is something even more surprising I think. Yes, it was about Messi, even after I checked the Barcelona squad for next season it turned out that Messi was no longer in the Barcelona squad list. I will be even more surprised if PSG can also bring in Messi in their squad next season after taking Ramos, at least that's the information I got about Messi and PSG being a very rich team.

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Quote from: Harkorede on July 14, 2021, 11:12:56 AM

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Usually when players rejoin their clubs, they end with failures. Shevchenko, Kaka, Fernando Torres and Bale. I don't think if Griezman leaves Barcelona and returns to A Madrid, he will be able to play as good as seasons ago.

Not sure anymore if Greizmann returns to Atletico Madrid can play as well as last season and this will tend to be more and will not get a place in the best position at this time Atletico already have a great striker yes even though Greizmann is still the best in Europe but I'm not sure about the balance he when you come back.

Indeed, this was the wrong decision Greizmann took Barcelona as the best port, even though it did not make his career worse and fortunately he is still young so there is still time to think about where he will land with a calm heart.

Joining Barcelona was a bad decision for not just Greizmann, but for Barcelona as well. Barcelona might still end up being the bigger loser should Greizmann return to Atletico Madrid:

As for Greizmann, I think he'll still slot right into the system and since Diego Simeone is still in charge of the club, I don't see much of a problem for him.

Greizmann has been a bit overvalued after his exploit in Madrid: certainly the Griezmann seen there cannot be even compared with the one who is now playing for Barça. He might get better again but need to find new stimuli first for himself and then for his team.
His market value dropped from the already mentioned €150m (way overvalued) to 60m (reasonable but very high today) for a reason. Still I do not know if going back to Madrid could be the right move, better to move away from Spain (Italy or the UK).

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Quote from: Raflesia on July 14, 2021, 09:39:22 AM

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Usually when players rejoin their clubs, they end with failures. Shevchenko, Kaka, Fernando Torres and Bale. I don't think if Griezman leaves Barcelona and returns to A Madrid, he will be able to play as good as seasons ago.

Not sure anymore if Greizmann returns to Atletico Madrid can play as well as last season and this will tend to be more and will not get a place in the best position at this time Atletico already have a great striker yes even though Greizmann is still the best in Europe but I'm not sure about the balance he when you come back.

Indeed, this was the wrong decision Greizmann took Barcelona as the best port, even though it did not make his career worse and fortunately he is still young so there is still time to think about where he will land with a calm heart.

Joining Barcelona was a bad decision for not just Greizmann, but for Barcelona as well. Barcelona might still end up being the bigger loser should Greizmann return to Atletico Madrid:

As for Greizmann, I think he'll still slot right into the system and since Diego Simeone is still in charge of the club, I don't see much of a problem for him.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on July 14, 2021, 10:38:04 AM

Barcelona and Real Madrid have yet to decide how they want to prepare their team for next season. Real Madrid has yet to buy a player, and Ramos, one of the most important players in their squad, has joined PSG. On the other hand, Barcelona, Aguero, and Depay have been included in the team. I don't think they have the ability to keep Messi and Griezmann on the team.

Until now Madrid have not managed to get a single new player in the transfer market, while their eternal rival, Barcelona has managed to get some new players even though on a free transfer and of course this is a puzzle how Madrid can compete to become champions next season, the loss of Ramos makes the Madrid defense quite fragile at the moment and it is reported that Varane has also decided to leave Madrid, and according to Diario AS (Spanish sports newspaper), the deal between Manchester United and Real Madrid on the transfer of Varane is nearing the end and will be finalized before the 2021/22 season begins.
With the departure of some of Madrid's core players in this year's transfer, of course Madrid need some really good new players for next season.

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Between Dembele,Coutinho,and Antone Griezman,one of them must depart Barcelona this season due to the arrival of Aguero and Delay.But among all those players tipped to leave the club this summer,Griezman's sale is one that I don't think Barca coach will consider,because he knows the impact of the lad on the pitch.

In my opinion, one of the players that Barcelona might let go is Antoine Griezmann because currently there are two clubs interested in bringing Griezmann (Chelsea and Atletico Madrid). Barcelona needs income (or reduces their expenses) so if the offer for Griezmann is worth it, I think Barcelona will let Griezmann go.

Griezmann himself also seems ready to leave Barcelona, so there is no reason for Barcelona to keep Griezmann when they need a lot of income in order to meet La Liga's financial fair play rules.

I disagree with you, Greizmann earns himself close to 800k weekly and i do not believe he is forcing a move. I think Barcelona are just desperately trying to reduce their wage cap (as authorized by la liga laws) so that Messia is allowed to sign a new contract. Another important factor is that Barcelona are offering Griezmann and other players for sale which means they cannot dictate selling fee.

I think Greizmann should return to Atletico in a swap as Barcelona wants Atletico Saul, time will tell

Barcelona and Real Madrid have yet to decide how they want to prepare their team for next season. Real Madrid has yet to buy a player, and Ramos, one of the most important players in their squad, has joined PSG. On the other hand, Barcelona, Aguero, and Depay have been included in the team. I don't think they have the ability to keep Messi and Griezmann on the team.

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Quote from: hd49728 on July 14, 2021, 09:20:16 AM

Usually when players rejoin their clubs, they end with failures. Shevchenko, Kaka, Fernando Torres and Bale. I don't think if Griezman leaves Barcelona and returns to A Madrid, he will be able to play as good as seasons ago.

Not sure anymore if Greizmann returns to Atletico Madrid can play as well as last season and this will tend to be more and will not get a place in the best position at this time Atletico already have a great striker yes even though Greizmann is still the best in Europe but I'm not sure about the balance he when you come back.

Indeed, this was the wrong decision Greizmann took Barcelona as the best port, even though it did not make his career worse and fortunately he is still young so there is still time to think about where he will land with a calm heart.

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Quote from: youdacapt on July 14, 2021, 08:53:46 AM

I disagree with you, Greizmann earns himself close to 800k weekly and i do not believe he is forcing a move. I think Barcelona are just desperately trying to reduce their wage cap (as authorized by la liga laws) so that Messia is allowed to sign a new contract. Another important factor is that Barcelona are offering Griezmann and other players for sale which means they cannot dictate selling fee.

I think Greizmann should return to Atletico in a swap as Barcelona wants Atletico Saul, time will tell

Griezman made a bad decision to leave Atletico Madrid and joined Barcelona. He could become a legend in A Madrid and has a better career there rather than struggling to find a solid position in Barcelona squad.

Euro 2020 shows us that Griezman does not lose his best. What he need is a squad in which he can feel comfortable with and play with fun. He is still at top level in the Europe and La Liga.

Usually when players rejoin their clubs, they end with failures. Shevchenko, Kaka, Fernando Torres and Bale. I don't think if Griezman leaves Barcelona and returns to A Madrid, he will be able to play as good as seasons ago.

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Quote from: abhiseshakana on July 14, 2021, 07:45:17 AM

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Between Dembele,Coutinho,and Antone Griezman,one of them must depart Barcelona this season due to the arrival of Aguero and Delay.But among all those players tipped to leave the club this summer,Griezman's sale is one that I don't think Barca coach will consider,because he knows the impact of the lad on the pitch.

In my opinion, one of the players that Barcelona might let go is Antoine Griezmann because currently there are two clubs interested in bringing Griezmann (Chelsea and Atletico Madrid). Barcelona needs income (or reduces their expenses) so if the offer for Griezmann is worth it, I think Barcelona will let Griezmann go.

Griezmann himself also seems ready to leave Barcelona, so there is no reason for Barcelona to keep Griezmann when they need a lot of income in order to meet La Liga's financial fair play rules.

I disagree with you, Greizmann earns himself close to 800k weekly and i do not believe he is forcing a move. I think Barcelona are just desperately trying to reduce their wage cap (as authorized by la liga laws) so that Messia is allowed to sign a new contract. Another important factor is that Barcelona are offering Griezmann and other players for sale which means they cannot dictate selling fee.

I think Greizmann should return to Atletico in a swap as Barcelona wants Atletico Saul, time will tell

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Barcelona will have to sell or rent a couple of players to lower their salary costs, otherwise Messi and the other players will not be able to sign. Most likely, either Griezmann or Dembele will have to look for another team, and Coutinho will also be put up for sale.

Dembele will not sell by Barcelona now. Barcelona could sell Griezmann and Coutinho. If Dembele is on the team, he will be able to serve Barcelona for many years. But Griezmann is now 30 years old. I don't think he will be able to hold the form for very long. Coutinho, on the other hand, has not been able to perform very well in the Barcelona team. He could not adapt to the rest of the other players.

I'm agree with you. Although, Grizman is a good player. But now he is old. At this moment, Barcelona needs some young talent. Because of, Messi will leave Barcelona in the next 1 or 2 years, Barcelona will have to make a replacement for Messi. So now Barcelona will keep Dembele in the team.

Sport newspaper confirms: Lionel Messi agreed with Barcelona on an initial 5-year contract, contrary to all expectations, and reduced his salary by 50%.
If this is news is legit means that Messi still want to be a Barcelona player as if he still wanted to earn more money he could have joined Man City they are in good shape financially and they could given him the full salary that he was earning with Barcelona but I don't think that they would given him 5year contract I think that they would given 3 years as he is now 34 years old and and after 5 years he would be nearing 40 years mark a most of players after 36 they retire we know Messi is an exceptional player so he will manage to stay in shape to 38-39 yo.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on July 13, 2021, 06:48:26 PM

Between Dembele,Coutinho,and Antone Griezman,one of them must depart Barcelona this season due to the arrival of Aguero and Delay.But among all those players tipped to leave the club this summer,Griezman's sale is one that I don't think Barca coach will consider,because he knows the impact of the lad on the pitch.

In my opinion, one of the players that Barcelona might let go is Antoine Griezmann because currently there are two clubs interested in bringing Griezmann (Chelsea and Atletico Madrid). Barcelona needs income (or reduces their expenses) so if the offer for Griezmann is worth it, I think Barcelona will let Griezmann go.

Griezmann himself also seems ready to leave Barcelona, so there is no reason for Barcelona to keep Griezmann when they need a lot of income in order to meet La Liga's financial fair play rules.

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Barcelona will have to sell or rent a couple of players to lower their salary costs, otherwise Messi and the other players will not be able to sign. Most likely, either Griezmann or Dembele will have to look for another team, and Coutinho will also be put up for sale.

Dembele will not sell by Barcelona now. Barcelona could sell Griezmann and Coutinho. If Dembele is on the team, he will be able to serve Barcelona for many years. But Griezmann is now 30 years old. I don't think he will be able to hold the form for very long. Coutinho, on the other hand, has not been able to perform very well in the Barcelona team. He could not adapt to the rest of the other players.

But the rumors are Dembele is on the sale list the latest news Man United is that teams are interested in buying him it's not certain so far it's just a plan
Barcelona can't do much about player salary rules Barcelona on the other hand have already bought some new players so there is no other choice.

Barcelona have bought new players. Now they have to sell 1 or 2 strikers. Depay and Aguero have been added to the squad. Aguero's position is center forward and Griezmann's position is the same. So I think Koeman is not interested in Griezmann anymore. However, Koeman should not have sold Dembele.

Between Dembele,Coutinho,and Antone Griezman,one of them must depart Barcelona this season due to the arrival of Aguero and Delay.But among all those players tipped to leave the club this summer,Griezman's sale is one that I don't think Barca coach will consider,because he knows the impact of the lad on the pitch.

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Barcelona will have to sell or rent a couple of players to lower their salary costs, otherwise Messi and the other players will not be able to sign. Most likely, either Griezmann or Dembele will have to look for another team, and Coutinho will also be put up for sale.

Dembele will not sell by Barcelona now. Barcelona could sell Griezmann and Coutinho. If Dembele is on the team, he will be able to serve Barcelona for many years. But Griezmann is now 30 years old. I don't think he will be able to hold the form for very long. Coutinho, on the other hand, has not been able to perform very well in the Barcelona team. He could not adapt to the rest of the other players.

But the rumors are Dembele is on the sale list the latest news Man United is that teams are interested in buying him it's not certain so far it's just a plan
Barcelona can't do much about player salary rules Barcelona on the other hand have already bought some new players so there is no other choice.

Barcelona have bought new players. Now they have to sell 1 or 2 strikers. Depay and Aguero have been added to the squad. Aguero's position is center forward and Griezmann's position is the same. So I think Koeman is not interested in Griezmann anymore. However, Koeman should not have sold Dembele.

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Barcelona will have to sell or rent a couple of players to lower their salary costs, otherwise Messi and the other players will not be able to sign. Most likely, either Griezmann or Dembele will have to look for another team, and Coutinho will also be put up for sale.

Dembele will not sell by Barcelona now. Barcelona could sell Griezmann and Coutinho. If Dembele is on the team, he will be able to serve Barcelona for many years. But Griezmann is now 30 years old. I don't think he will be able to hold the form for very long. Coutinho, on the other hand, has not been able to perform very well in the Barcelona team. He could not adapt to the rest of the other players.

But the rumors are Dembele is on the sale list the latest news Man United is that teams are interested in buying him it's not certain so far it's just a plan
Barcelona can't do much about player salary rules Barcelona on the other hand have already bought some new players so there is no other choice.

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Quote from: LittleBitFunny on July 12, 2021, 12:53:43 PM

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Barcelona will have to sell or rent a couple of players to lower their salary costs, otherwise Messi and the other players will not be able to sign. Most likely, either Griezmann or Dembele will have to look for another team, and Coutinho will also be put up for sale.

Dembele will not sell by Barcelona now. Barcelona could sell Griezmann and Coutinho. If Dembele is on the team, he will be able to serve Barcelona for many years. But Griezmann is now 30 years old. I don't think he will be able to hold the form for very long. Coutinho, on the other hand, has not been able to perform very well in the Barcelona team. He could not adapt to the rest of the other players.

I'm agree with you. Although, Grizman is a good player. But now he is old. At this moment, Barcelona needs some young talent. Because of, Messi will leave Barcelona in the next 1 or 2 years, Barcelona will have to make a replacement for Messi. So now Barcelona will keep Dembele in the team.

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Quote from: kassex on July 12, 2021, 11:41:03 AM

Barcelona will have to sell or rent a couple of players to lower their salary costs, otherwise Messi and the other players will not be able to sign. Most likely, either Griezmann or Dembele will have to look for another team, and Coutinho will also be put up for sale.

Dembele will not sell by Barcelona now. Barcelona could sell Griezmann and Coutinho. If Dembele is on the team, he will be able to serve Barcelona for many years. But Griezmann is now 30 years old. I don't think he will be able to hold the form for very long. Coutinho, on the other hand, has not been able to perform very well in the Barcelona team. He could not adapt to the rest of the other players.

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Quote from: kassex on July 12, 2021, 11:41:03 AM

Barcelona will have to sell or rent a couple of players to lower their salary costs, otherwise Messi and the other players will not be able to sign. Most likely, either Griezmann or Dembele will have to look for another team, and Coutinho will also be put up for sale.

I think the three players Dembele and Coutinho and Griezmann have a great chance to leave Barcelona sooner than I imagined. I don't see them as really reliable players in the Barcelona attack after a few seasons. They are three good players, but maybe not suitable for Barcelona. Barcelona would really be overwhelmed if Messi decided to leave them either retiring or moving on. It would be great if Neymar wanted to return to Barcelona, but difficult to achieve because the club's financial condition is in crisis.

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