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If they let him go, it means they will have to spend heavily to get much better defenders having in mind that there's no more Zizou who would use his tactics to rely young players to replace injured senior players. As things stand right now, Varane still has one year left on his contract. They could decided to keep him and risk having him leave on free transfer next summer.

Manchester United did want to sign Varane since two seasons ago, but only recently got the green light from Real Madrid. The problem is that there is
no price agreement between Madrid and Man United, Real Madrid has lost Sergio Ramos, then the presence of Varane is needed by Madrid. There is
a possibility that Varane is in Madrid until his contract runs out, because Real Madrid charge a very high price. But according to the news I read
Man United have a back-up plan in case it fails to sign Varane, Man United are eyeing Jules Kounde from Sevilla and Tyrone Mings from Aston Villa.

As Real Madrid have lost Ramos, I think they wouldn't like to run the risk of losing Varane also. I really wonder what's going to happen. Will Real Madrid manage to convince him and extend his contract or else?

Manchester Utd have been after Kounde for a long time actually. There were some rumours in the last transfer window about it also. If they don't succeed in signing Varane, this time they'd probably become serious about Kounde.

Real Madrid tried several times to offer Varane a contract extension, but according to the news I read, Varane rejected Madrid's offer.
Looks like Varane really wants to move to another team, but if Real Madrid in the 2021/2022 season can get a La Liga or Champions
League trophy, there is a possibility that Varane will change his mind. Jules Kounde has a more realistic price, so I predict Man United
will fail to sign Varane. Even though Varane is Man United's priority right now, but the price Real Madrid wants is too high.

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I doubt that they could charge a high price because Varane publicly said he wants out, when a player says he wants out then the price of that player suddenly goes down under what he is really worth. I mean there is a sweet spot for players, if the team doesn't want to really sell but you gave them an offer on what he worths then they may charge even more, if the team and player comes to agreement to seek for a price and maybe they may consider selling then you can get away with what the player worths, but when a player wants out then the price is very low.

I remember the opposite happening, Neymar went for 220 million total I believe, which turns out to be a good move because it put PSG into map, not a bad choice of money spending as well. If varane really decides that he wants out, then he will have the chance to get sold for a good amount not so high.

Indeed, in some news Varane wants to move from Madrid, therefore Varane refuses a contract extension offered by Madrid. But not necessarily
the price will be lower, because as long as Varane is still under contract with Madrid, Madrid has the right to determine the selling price of Varane.
The problem is Real Madrid don't want to lose Varane, that's why Real Madrid are asking for a high price. Even though Varane's contract will
expire soon, therefore there is a possibility that Varane will move on a free transfer.

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Manchester United did want to sign Varane since two seasons ago, but only recently got the green light from Real Madrid. The problem is that there is no price agreement between Madrid and Man United, Real Madrid has lost Sergio Ramos, then the presence of Varane is needed by Madrid. There is a possibility that Varane is in Madrid until his contract runs out, because Real Madrid charge a very high price. But according to the news I read Man United have a back-up plan in case it fails to sign Varane, Man United are eyeing Jules Kounde from Sevilla and Tyrone Mings from Aston Villa.

I doubt that they could charge a high price because Varane publicly said he wants out, when a player says he wants out then the price of that player suddenly goes down under what he is really worth. I mean there is a sweet spot for players, if the team doesn't want to really sell but you gave them an offer on what he worths then they may charge even more, if the team and player comes to agreement to seek for a price and maybe they may consider selling then you can get away with what the player worths, but when a player wants out then the price is very low.

I remember the opposite happening, Neymar went for 220 million total I believe, which turns out to be a good move because it put PSG into map, not a bad choice of money spending as well. If varane really decides that he wants out, then he will have the chance to get sold for a good amount not so high.

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Quote from: OcTradism on July 07, 2021, 06:35:15 AM

Real Madrid don't lose anything. They bought and used Ramos more than ten years and the best time of Ramos is left in Bernabeu. He is a legend player in Real Madrid but not a home-grown player. Ramos knows he does not have too many seasons left in his career and Real Madrid will not treat him well as a legend player. He decided smartly to enjoy his left seasons in another club that can bring high salary, longer contract and titles.

Nothing is irreplaceable in football and that can describe Ramos' situation with Real Madrid. In addition to the player's contribution to the team, age will also be a factor why coach and management have to think about finding replacement. Ramos has served Real Madrid for more than 10 years and he deserve to be called a Legend. Letting him go find a replacement might sound easy, but it's never worth his contribution to the team. But it seem Real Madrid have enough squad to put in Ramos' position.

In the world of football, of course, it is natural for players to come and go, but in this case, I think it is quite unfortunate that Real Madrid has lost a leader who is quite strong so far and I see that there is no one madrid player who is worthy to replace Ramos in the first team, because in several Real Madrid games, I saw when Ramos was substituted because of injury, it was very clear that Madrid's defense became a bit fragile and easily penetrated by opponents and the only way Madrid filled the central defender void was to find another defender who had the toughness of Ramos during this.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on July 07, 2021, 12:20:45 PM

The regeneration is indeed very important to find potential players that Real Madrid expect but with the replacement of the new coach who made that decision, he really doesn't want to use Ramos as a defender anymore but I'm sure if Zidane is still coach of Real Madrid he will definitely keep Ramos in a few more seasons.

Well, this has become a factor of age, inevitably having to go that age in the top leagues will not accept it anymore even if it only lasts a few seasons and this will be a factor in salary as well as lack of stamina with the appearance of Ramos he won't be 10 years before when he was young.

Maybe Carlo Ancelotti wants to keep Ramos too. It's just that Real Madrid's management said otherwise.

The main issue is about the contract and communication that doesn't go smoothly. I'm sure that If the communication between management and Ramos goes well then Ramos will stay at Real Madrid because Ramos doesn't really want to leave Real Madrid and he actually agreed to a 1-year contract extension with a reduced salary.

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Real Madrid don't lose anything. They bought and used Ramos more than ten years and the best time of Ramos is left in Bernabeu. He is a legend player in Real Madrid but not a home-grown player. Ramos knows he does not have too many seasons left in his career and Real Madrid will not treat him well as a legend player. He decided smartly to enjoy his left seasons in another club that can bring high salary, longer contract and titles.

Nothing is irreplaceable in football and that can describe Ramos' situation with Real Madrid. In addition to the player's contribution to the team, age will also be a factor why coach and management have to think about finding replacement. Ramos has served Real Madrid for more than 10 years and he deserve to be called a Legend. Letting him go find a replacement might sound easy, but it's never worth his contribution to the team. But it seem Real Madrid have enough squad to put in Ramos' position.

Yes, actually there is nothing to worry about the position left by Ramos because after all, regeneration is necessary and it is time for Madrid to find and get potential players. After all, when athletes are no longer young, at least they will also have their own way of life whether they choose to retire or continue with the risks that are always there. If Ramos chooses to continue his career because there are other teams that need him, then I think it doesn't matter either because after all, Ramos still has a healthy body because that is the most important factor.

The regeneration is indeed very important to find potential players that Real Madrid expect but with the replacement of the new coach who made that decision, he really doesn't want to use Ramos as a defender anymore but I'm sure if Zidane is still coach of Real Madrid he will definitely keep Ramos in a few more seasons.

Well, this has become a factor of age, inevitably having to go that age in the top leagues will not accept it anymore even if it only lasts a few seasons and this will be a factor in salary as well as lack of stamina with the appearance of Ramos he won't be 10 years before when he was young.

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Quote from: OcTradism on July 07, 2021, 06:35:15 AM

Real Madrid don't lose anything. They bought and used Ramos more than ten years and the best time of Ramos is left in Bernabeu. He is a legend player in Real Madrid but not a home-grown player. Ramos knows he does not have too many seasons left in his career and Real Madrid will not treat him well as a legend player. He decided smartly to enjoy his left seasons in another club that can bring high salary, longer contract and titles.

Nothing is irreplaceable in football and that can describe Ramos' situation with Real Madrid. In addition to the player's contribution to the team, age will also be a factor why coach and management have to think about finding replacement. Ramos has served Real Madrid for more than 10 years and he deserve to be called a Legend. Letting him go find a replacement might sound easy, but it's never worth his contribution to the team. But it seem Real Madrid have enough squad to put in Ramos' position.

Yes, actually there is nothing to worry about the position left by Ramos because after all, regeneration is necessary and it is time for Madrid to find and get potential players. After all, when athletes are no longer young, at least they will also have their own way of life whether they choose to retire or continue with the risks that are always there. If Ramos chooses to continue his career because there are other teams that need him, then I think it doesn't matter either because after all, Ramos still has a healthy body because that is the most important factor.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on July 06, 2021, 06:13:53 PM

Quote from: OcTradism on July 07, 2021, 06:35:15 AM

There have been some rumours and news like Varane wants to leave Real Madrid. And Manchester United have come into line for him already. It'd be a really big loss for Real Madrid that's for sure. They already released Ramos. If Varane goes also, they should give a bigger importance to defender transfers first.

https://www.eurosport.com/football/transfers/2020-2021/man-utd-transfer-news-raphael-varane-part-of-75m-double-swoop-but-back-up-option-in-place-paper-roun_sto8406512/story.shtml

According to Eurosport, Manchester Utd are going to offer £50m for Raphael Varane. And I've heard that Varane has agreed verbally on terms with Manchester Utd. It really looks like Real Madrid will continue to lose their important players.

now manchester united need a defender who is really tough in their back line, and in my opinion varane is the right person to fill that position and become a complete tandem for maguire in maintaining the manchester united defense next season, but according to the news, seems that real madrid is reluctant to release varane at a low price and real madrid has set a varane price of 70 million euros and Manchester united only dared to bid for varane around 50 million euros, because of the uncertainty of the transfer of varane, forcing Manchester united to look for other alternative players and it seems that manchester united is more inclined to get Jules Kunde who is a Sevilla player rather than varane later.

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Real Madrid don't lose anything. They bought and used Ramos more than ten years and the best time of Ramos is left in Bernabeu. He is a legend player in Real Madrid but not a home-grown player. Ramos knows he does not have too many seasons left in his career and Real Madrid will not treat him well as a legend player. He decided smartly to enjoy his left seasons in another club that can bring high salary, longer contract and titles.

Nothing is irreplaceable in football and that can describe Ramos' situation with Real Madrid. In addition to the player's contribution to the team, age will also be a factor why coach and management have to think about finding replacement. Ramos has served Real Madrid for more than 10 years and he deserve to be called a Legend. Letting him go find a replacement might sound easy, but it's never worth his contribution to the team. But it seem Real Madrid have enough squad to put in Ramos' position.

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As Real Madrid have lost Ramos, I think they wouldn't like to run the risk of losing Varane also. I really wonder what's going to happen. Will Real Madrid manage to convince him and extend his contract or else?

Real Madrid don't lose anything. They bought and used Ramos more than ten years and the best time of Ramos is left in Bernabeu. He is a legend player in Real Madrid but not a home-grown player. Ramos knows he does not have too many seasons left in his career and Real Madrid will not treat him well as a legend player. He decided smartly to enjoy his left seasons in another club that can bring high salary, longer contract and titles.

Real Madrid spirit is to pick fresh and good players and to get ride of old ones whether they were legends or normies.. By 35, you risk to have renewable 1 year contract, if you accept terms and fail, you are out! Ramos as one of the legends of RM doesn't want to be treated like that so... For Varane, as I said earlier, he wants more money which wasn't accepted by RM staff..

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on July 07, 2021, 06:30:01 AM

As Real Madrid have lost Ramos, I think they wouldn't like to run the risk of losing Varane also. I really wonder what's going to happen. Will Real Madrid manage to convince him and extend his contract or else?

Real Madrid don't lose anything. They bought and used Ramos more than ten years and the best time of Ramos is left in Bernabeu. He is a legend player in Real Madrid but not a home-grown player. Ramos knows he does not have too many seasons left in his career and Real Madrid will not treat him well as a legend player. He decided smartly to enjoy his left seasons in another club that can bring high salary, longer contract and titles.

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https://www.eurosport.com/football/transfers/2020-2021/man-utd-transfer-news-raphael-varane-part-of-75m-double-swoop-but-back-up-option-in-place-paper-roun_sto8406512/story.shtml

According to Eurosport, Manchester Utd are going to offer £50m for Raphael Varane. And I've heard that Varane has agreed verbally on terms with Manchester Utd. It really looks like Real Madrid will continue to lose their important players.

If they let him go, it means they will have to spend heavily to get much better defenders having in mind that there's no more Zizou who would use his tactics to rely young players to replace injured senior players. As things stand right now, Varane still has one year left on his contract. They could decided to keep him and risk having him leave on free transfer next summer.

Manchester United did want to sign Varane since two seasons ago, but only recently got the green light from Real Madrid. The problem is that there is
no price agreement between Madrid and Man United, Real Madrid has lost Sergio Ramos, then the presence of Varane is needed by Madrid. There is
a possibility that Varane is in Madrid until his contract runs out, because Real Madrid charge a very high price. But according to the news I read
Man United have a back-up plan in case it fails to sign Varane, Man United are eyeing Jules Kounde from Sevilla and Tyrone Mings from Aston Villa.

As Real Madrid have lost Ramos, I think they wouldn't like to run the risk of losing Varane also. I really wonder what's going to happen. Will Real Madrid manage to convince him and extend his contract or else?

Manchester Utd have been after Kounde for a long time actually. There were some rumours in the last transfer window about it also. If they don't succeed in signing Varane, this time they'd probably become serious about Kounde.

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https://www.eurosport.com/football/transfers/2020-2021/man-utd-transfer-news-raphael-varane-part-of-75m-double-swoop-but-back-up-option-in-place-paper-roun_sto8406512/story.shtml

According to Eurosport, Manchester Utd are going to offer £50m for Raphael Varane. And I've heard that Varane has agreed verbally on terms with Manchester Utd. It really looks like Real Madrid will continue to lose their important players.

If they let him go, it means they will have to spend heavily to get much better defenders having in mind that there's no more Zizou who would use his tactics to rely young players to replace injured senior players. As things stand right now, Varane still has one year left on his contract. They could decided to keep him and risk having him leave on free transfer next summer.

Manchester United did want to sign Varane since two seasons ago, but only recently got the green light from Real Madrid. The problem is that there is
no price agreement between Madrid and Man United, Real Madrid has lost Sergio Ramos, then the presence of Varane is needed by Madrid. There is
a possibility that Varane is in Madrid until his contract runs out, because Real Madrid charge a very high price. But according to the news I read
Man United have a back-up plan in case it fails to sign Varane, Man United are eyeing Jules Kounde from Sevilla and Tyrone Mings from Aston Villa.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on July 06, 2021, 06:13:53 PM

https://www.eurosport.com/football/transfers/2020-2021/man-utd-transfer-news-raphael-varane-part-of-75m-double-swoop-but-back-up-option-in-place-paper-roun_sto8406512/story.shtml

According to Eurosport, Manchester Utd are going to offer £50m for Raphael Varane. And I've heard that Varane has agreed verbally on terms with Manchester Utd. It really looks like Real Madrid will continue to lose their important players.

If they let him go, it means they will have to spend heavily to get much better defenders having in mind that there's no more Zizou who would use his tactics to rely young players to replace injured senior players. As things stand right now, Varane still has one year left on his contract. They could decided to keep him and risk having him leave on free transfer next summer.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on July 05, 2021, 12:57:53 PM

There have been some rumours and news like Varane wants to leave Real Madrid. And Manchester United have come into line for him already. It'd be a really big loss for Real Madrid that's for sure. They already released Ramos. If Varane goes also, they should give a bigger importance to defender transfers first.

https://www.eurosport.com/football/transfers/2020-2021/man-utd-transfer-news-raphael-varane-part-of-75m-double-swoop-but-back-up-option-in-place-paper-roun_sto8406512/story.shtml

According to Eurosport, Manchester Utd are going to offer £50m for Raphael Varane. And I've heard that Varane has agreed verbally on terms with Manchester Utd. It really looks like Real Madrid will continue to lose their important players.

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It'd be a really big loss for Real Madrid that's for sure. They already released Ramos. If Varane goes also, they should give a bigger importance to defender transfers first.

If it is true, then Madrid will be weaker. If they don't shop soon, they might have trouble competing next season. Maybe it's time to regenerate the dominance of the La Liga power map. If it is true that Madrid will not buy players the competition will be even greater for other clubs. But I hope that won't happen, Madrid have to improve soon.

Do you believe Madrid will not buy new players this season? I'm sure they already have a list of players to buy just not published
Or another possibility that they are currently monitoring players who are competing in the Euros and Copa America

It's also possible that they are monitoring the ongoing Euros and Copas and usually the coaches will pay attention to the players they are aiming for as their defense in their team, but I think it is important and Ancelotti definitely has a list of players he wants to sign.

Can't understand if Varane left after Ramos then who will Ancelotti rely on? whether to withdraw from his protégé, I don't think it's possible.

Yes exactly as I said, for example at the moment Italy conceded only a few goals it means there is a strong defense there
Well maybe this can be a reference for Madrid to choose which players to buy, especially defenders to replace the player who left

Relating the Euros to the transfer of players and defenders, there are better players that Ancelotti can go out into the market and buy,he needs defenders that can help him contend for tittles next season,going into the market to choose a good defender is a priority for him,if he is to do well.

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Quote from: BitcoinHunt3r on July 05, 2021, 12:17:53 PM

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It'd be a really big loss for Real Madrid that's for sure. They already released Ramos. If Varane goes also, they should give a bigger importance to defender transfers first.

If it is true, then Madrid will be weaker. If they don't shop soon, they might have trouble competing next season. Maybe it's time to regenerate the dominance of the La Liga power map. If it is true that Madrid will not buy players the competition will be even greater for other clubs. But I hope that won't happen, Madrid have to improve soon.

Do you believe Madrid will not buy new players this season? I'm sure they already have a list of players to buy just not published
Or another possibility that they are currently monitoring players who are competing in the Euros and Copa America

It's also possible that they are monitoring the ongoing Euros and Copas and usually the coaches will pay attention to the players they are aiming for as their defense in their team, but I think it is important and Ancelotti definitely has a list of players he wants to sign.

Can't understand if Varane left after Ramos then who will Ancelotti rely on? whether to withdraw from his protégé, I don't think it's possible.

Yes exactly as I said, for example at the moment Italy conceded only a few goals it means there is a strong defense there
Well maybe this can be a reference for Madrid to choose which players to buy, especially defenders to replace the player who left

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Quote from: AndySt on July 04, 2021, 06:44:27 PM

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It'd be a really big loss for Real Madrid that's for sure. They already released Ramos. If Varane goes also, they should give a bigger importance to defender transfers first.

If it is true, then Madrid will be weaker. If they don't shop soon, they might have trouble competing next season. Maybe it's time to regenerate the dominance of the La Liga power map. If it is true that Madrid will not buy players the competition will be even greater for other clubs. But I hope that won't happen, Madrid have to improve soon.

Do you believe Madrid will not buy new players this season? I'm sure they already have a list of players to buy just not published
Or another possibility that they are currently monitoring players who are competing in the Euros and Copa America

It's also possible that they are monitoring the ongoing Euros and Copas and usually the coaches will pay attention to the players they are aiming for as their defense in their team, but I think it is important and Ancelotti definitely has a list of players he wants to sign.

Can't understand if Varane left after Ramos then who will Ancelotti rely on? whether to withdraw from his protégé, I don't think it's possible.

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I have a rather contradictory attitude towards Ramos and I perfectly understand why the fans of other teams have such a negative attitude towards him. We can call Ramos a bad person and a rather dirty player as much as we like, but we should still admit that it is difficult to call Ramos a bad player and he coped with his playing duties very well, cementing the defense and scoring important goals. As for the relationship between Perez and Ramos, I would not focus much on the hostility of the club president to the player. Florentino Perez is quite paternal towards Sergio and I would not be surprised if Perez takes Ramos to some position at the club after his career ends. It's just the way things are now.

I do not care what type of player he was, I do not care if he was good on defending or tackling or anything else, as soon as a player is a dirty player then I am done with him and I do not care about anything else. He could be the best defender in the entire world but if he consistently tackles to hurt other players then he is done, he is the worst for me, there is no other argument that I require to give my note to him.

I am super glad that he won't be around anymore, it will be a better Real Madrid to watch this season even thanks to just not him being there, I rather see Real Madrid fail without him then win with him because that is how much I hate him. I am not fan of any team in la liga, my nationality is totally different so I have no winners if Barcelona or ATM wins, it is the same as Real winning, I just dislike dirty players. I had the same thing with prior Barcelona players before as well (like vidal) so it is not biased opinion.

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