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Quote from: Pulsar77 on July 04, 2021, 06:43:35 AM

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It'd be a really big loss for Real Madrid that's for sure. They already released Ramos. If Varane goes also, they should give a bigger importance to defender transfers first.

If it is true, then Madrid will be weaker. If they don't shop soon, they might have trouble competing next season. Maybe it's time to regenerate the dominance of the La Liga power map. If it is true that Madrid will not buy players the competition will be even greater for other clubs. But I hope that won't happen, Madrid have to improve soon.

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I have a rather contradictory attitude towards Ramos and I perfectly understand why the fans of other teams have such a negative attitude towards him. We can call Ramos a bad person and a rather dirty player as much as we like, but we should still admit that it is difficult to call Ramos a bad player and he coped with his playing duties very well, cementing the defense and scoring important goals. As for the relationship between Perez and Ramos, I would not focus much on the hostility of the club president to the player. Florentino Perez is quite paternal towards Sergio and I would not be surprised if Perez takes Ramos to some position at the club after his career ends. It's just the way things are now.

Maybe Ramos is a bad person. But he is an extraordinary player. He treats the players of the opposing team badly. But have you ever seen him abuse someone on his team? He is ready to do anything to win his team. Although his behavior is bad, it is for his own team.

I think you are right. No Barcelona fan likes Ramos. They hate Ramos. But you won't find a Real Madrid fan who doesn't like Ramos. Everyone loves and respects Ramos. Whatever Ramos does on the field, he does to protect the interests of the team.

Who ever that doesn't like Ramos is a fan of Barca.I am not a Madrid fan,but Ramos is undoubtedly one of the best defenders in the world.He is rough,and at the same time cool,every great player has a weakness,and every great defender is always fund of taking red cards.Ramos presence alone in a team gives hope to the fans and the team mates.True as you said that he does what he does to defend his team,yes.He is a player that puts in all his effort to make his team emerge victorious

There are many Barcelona fans who not only dislike Ramos but also hate Ramos, and there are enough reasons to hate this. No one else has fouled Messi so badly like Ramos. In many matches, he has deliberately fouled. Of course, he is one of the best defenders in the world but I personally dislike him for his intentional fouls.

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Ramos was always a bad person who he was always a dirty player that played horrible in the sense that he wasn't afraid of getting carded and he made horrible tackles for years, specially against Barcelona on the big players like messi, he just played with his emotions and angry instead of just being a defender that follows the rules, the years with him and pepe together were one of the worst years to watch Real because they would rather tackle and kick you in the leg instead of defending the ball, hell even if they can tackle the ball they went for the people.
I understand Perez not being fine with him being a dick to him, he is the president and Ramos is just a player, if you as a player do not like the president that pays your salary then go ahead and leave, I think he should not be missed at all.

I have a rather contradictory attitude towards Ramos and I perfectly understand why the fans of other teams have such a negative attitude towards him. We can call Ramos a bad person and a rather dirty player as much as we like, but we should still admit that it is difficult to call Ramos a bad player and he coped with his playing duties very well, cementing the defense and scoring important goals. As for the relationship between Perez and Ramos, I would not focus much on the hostility of the club president to the player. Florentino Perez is quite paternal towards Sergio and I would not be surprised if Perez takes Ramos to some position at the club after his career ends. It's just the way things are now.

Maybe Ramos is a bad person. But he is an extraordinary player. He treats the players of the opposing team badly. But have you ever seen him abuse someone on his team? He is ready to do anything to win his team. Although his behavior is bad, it is for his own team.

I think you are right. No Barcelona fan likes Ramos. They hate Ramos. But you won't find a Real Madrid fan who doesn't like Ramos. Everyone loves and respects Ramos. Whatever Ramos does on the field, he does to protect the interests of the team.

Who ever that doesn't like Ramos is a fan of Barca.I am not a Madrid fan,but Ramos is undoubtedly one of the best defenders in the world.He is rough,and at the same time cool,every great player has a weakness,and every great defender is always fund of taking red cards.Ramos presence alone in a team gives hope to the fans and the team mates.True as you said that he does what he does to defend his team,yes.He is a player that puts in all his effort to make his team emerge victorious

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Quote from: Iranus on July 05, 2021, 02:38:14 AM

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Ramos was always a bad person who he was always a dirty player that played horrible in the sense that he wasn't afraid of getting carded and he made horrible tackles for years, specially against Barcelona on the big players like messi, he just played with his emotions and angry instead of just being a defender that follows the rules, the years with him and pepe together were one of the worst years to watch Real because they would rather tackle and kick you in the leg instead of defending the ball, hell even if they can tackle the ball they went for the people.
I understand Perez not being fine with him being a dick to him, he is the president and Ramos is just a player, if you as a player do not like the president that pays your salary then go ahead and leave, I think he should not be missed at all.

I have a rather contradictory attitude towards Ramos and I perfectly understand why the fans of other teams have such a negative attitude towards him. We can call Ramos a bad person and a rather dirty player as much as we like, but we should still admit that it is difficult to call Ramos a bad player and he coped with his playing duties very well, cementing the defense and scoring important goals. As for the relationship between Perez and Ramos, I would not focus much on the hostility of the club president to the player. Florentino Perez is quite paternal towards Sergio and I would not be surprised if Perez takes Ramos to some position at the club after his career ends. It's just the way things are now.

Maybe Ramos is a bad person. But he is an extraordinary player. He treats the players of the opposing team badly. But have you ever seen him abuse someone on his team? He is ready to do anything to win his team. Although his behavior is bad, it is for his own team.

I think you are right. No Barcelona fan likes Ramos. They hate Ramos. But you won't find a Real Madrid fan who doesn't like Ramos. Everyone loves and respects Ramos. Whatever Ramos does on the field, he does to protect the interests of the team.

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Quote from: AndySt on July 04, 2021, 06:44:27 PM

Quote from: fullhdpixel on July 04, 2021, 04:09:35 PM

Ramos was always a bad person who he was always a dirty player that played horrible in the sense that he wasn't afraid of getting carded and he made horrible tackles for years, specially against Barcelona on the big players like messi, he just played with his emotions and angry instead of just being a defender that follows the rules, the years with him and pepe together were one of the worst years to watch Real because they would rather tackle and kick you in the leg instead of defending the ball, hell even if they can tackle the ball they went for the people.
I understand Perez not being fine with him being a dick to him, he is the president and Ramos is just a player, if you as a player do not like the president that pays your salary then go ahead and leave, I think he should not be missed at all.

I have a rather contradictory attitude towards Ramos and I perfectly understand why the fans of other teams have such a negative attitude towards him. We can call Ramos a bad person and a rather dirty player as much as we like, but we should still admit that it is difficult to call Ramos a bad player and he coped with his playing duties very well, cementing the defense and scoring important goals. As for the relationship between Perez and Ramos, I would not focus much on the hostility of the club president to the player. Florentino Perez is quite paternal towards Sergio and I would not be surprised if Perez takes Ramos to some position at the club after his career ends. It's just the way things are now.

Maybe Ramos is a bad person. But he is an extraordinary player. He treats the players of the opposing team badly. But have you ever seen him abuse someone on his team? He is ready to do anything to win his team. Although his behavior is bad, it is for his own team.

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on July 04, 2021, 04:09:35 PM

Ramos was always a bad person who he was always a dirty player that played horrible in the sense that he wasn't afraid of getting carded and he made horrible tackles for years, specially against Barcelona on the big players like messi, he just played with his emotions and angry instead of just being a defender that follows the rules, the years with him and pepe together were one of the worst years to watch Real because they would rather tackle and kick you in the leg instead of defending the ball, hell even if they can tackle the ball they went for the people.
I understand Perez not being fine with him being a dick to him, he is the president and Ramos is just a player, if you as a player do not like the president that pays your salary then go ahead and leave, I think he should not be missed at all.

I have a rather contradictory attitude towards Ramos and I perfectly understand why the fans of other teams have such a negative attitude towards him. We can call Ramos a bad person and a rather dirty player as much as we like, but we should still admit that it is difficult to call Ramos a bad player and he coped with his playing duties very well, cementing the defense and scoring important goals. As for the relationship between Perez and Ramos, I would not focus much on the hostility of the club president to the player. Florentino Perez is quite paternal towards Sergio and I would not be surprised if Perez takes Ramos to some position at the club after his career ends. It's just the way things are now.

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Quote from: AndySt on July 03, 2021, 06:59:31 PM

In any case, the very status of both the super club and the financial capabilities should allow Real Madrid to find defenders of a decent level for themselves. As for Ramos, I would like to say the following: Sergio was not just a defender, but the leader of the team, the so-called leader of the locker room. It was not by chance that there was information that the non-extension of the contract was due to the deterioration of relations between Ramos and Florentino Perez, when after the 1-4 defeat to Ajax, Ramos, who missed the game due to disqualification, stood up for the team, and then clashed verbally with the boss. Therefore, everything is not clear here, especially since Ancelotti stated that he could not imagine a team without Ramos.

Ramos was always a bad person who he was always a dirty player that played horrible in the sense that he wasn't afraid of getting carded and he made horrible tackles for years, specially against Barcelona on the big players like messi, he just played with his emotions and angry instead of just being a defender that follows the rules, the years with him and pepe together were one of the worst years to watch Real because they would rather tackle and kick you in the leg instead of defending the ball, hell even if they can tackle the ball they went for the people.

I understand Perez not being fine with him being a dick to him, he is the president and Ramos is just a player, if you as a player do not like the president that pays your salary then go ahead and leave, I think he should not be missed at all.

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Carlo Ancelotti is finally back at Real Madrid after 6 years. He became the manager of Bayern, Napoli and Everton in this period. I'm actually really happy to see him back at the club. Real Madrid had really nice years with Carlo Ancelotti. They needed a savior now and I think they found it. I'm hoping to see Ancelotti making the right transfers for the team and helping the team become much more competitive in the La Liga and the Champions League next season.

Certainly,Madrid will do well again with Ancelotti.He's a coach that knows the system.His modus operandi is one that Real Madrid loves,his style of football, and his game formation is what makes madrid remember him.But he must focus's his attention on the defence line,with Ramos out,if not replaced with a better defender,the backline will give him problem in the upcoming season.

I'm quite sure that he will solve the defender problem at the team right now. I trust him about he will be making the right decision for the centre-back position. There are some rumours about Varane also like he wants to leave this summer. I think that they should definitely keep him at the team and do whatever he needs. As far as I remember, Zidane discovered his potential and brought him up to the first team. Now, Zidane is gone. Maybe one of the reasons he wants to leave is that. If they don't bother keeping him at the team, it looks like Manchester Utd are preparing to make an offer to him.

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There have been some rumours and news like Varane wants to leave Real Madrid. And Manchester United have come into line for him already. It'd be a really big loss for Real Madrid that's for sure. They already released Ramos. If Varane goes also, they should give a bigger importance to defender transfers first.

If this rumor is true, next season will be miserable for Real Madrid. First, there is only one experienced striker in their squad. If Benzema is injured, it will be difficult for Real Madrid to beat any weaker team. Second, their best and main defender Sergio Ramos has now joined PSG. If Varane leaves Real, Real Madrid will not have an experienced defender to handle the defense. The title cannot be won by relying on an experienced coach alone. Need to have a good squad.

In my view Varane is not very good so if he does leave it shouldn't be a serious problem for Madrid either. In fact, Madrid still has other experienced players like Marcelo and also, Real Madrid have got David Alaba from Bayern Munich on a free agent. I think that's a good thing, Alaba is still having a good and productive age at 29 and also, there are many other experienced players that Madrid have in every position, so I don't think losing Varane is something to make a mess.

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Quote from: Avirunes on July 04, 2021, 12:16:18 PM

I really don't like Koeman so much, maybe because of some decisions took after his appointment. One of this was Suarez who was a key player and in just a few months after Koeman appointment he was sold to Atletico and last season he helped them win the LaLiga title. And with a pproper striker's absence, Barcelona struggled so much otherwise they would have been the another team contesting in top 3 positions of LaLiga title.

I also think that he is not a suitable coach for Barcelona, but we do not have the capacity to get him out of his seat there. I don't understand why the Barcelona management gave him a chance after they saw his work for one season?

Next season I hope Barcelona have a new coach who deserves more than Koeman. I dream that Xavi is willing to lead Barcelona next season or the following season. Xavi is a coach who, in my opinion, understand the Barcelona game better.

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If this rumor is true, next season will be miserable for Real Madrid. First, there is only one experienced striker in their squad. If Benzema is injured, it will be difficult for Real Madrid to beat any weaker team. Second, their best and main defender Sergio Ramos has now joined PSG. If Varane leaves Real, Real Madrid will not have an experienced defender to handle the defense. The title cannot be won by relying on an experienced coach alone. Need to have a good squad.

Barcelona have a good coach who help them to finish last season very well. They will have a stable condition with a same coach and with a few good transfer, Aguero, Delay.

If Barcelona can not be stronger in a new season, in La Liga, Atletico Madrid will be the strongest and best candidate for the championship again.

Real Madrid will begin a new season with many doubt and I don't think they can beat either Atletico or Barcelona in order to take the championship.

Hm are you sure that Koeman is such a good coach? He made a number of wrong decisions and every time I see him standing next to the pitch it feels like he is missing this special Aura like other coaches, Guardiola, Zidane, Klopp and even Enrique somehow. I think aura is certainly one aspect that counts. When you fully trust your coach and you are 3 - 0 down at halftime and he says "we are going to win this", you really feel it's possible. If the coach lacks this quality, you would think "is he insane? It's not even worth playing the second half". I don't know, I don't think Koeman was the right decision.

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Quote from: MusaMohamed on July 04, 2021, 09:06:52 AM

Barcelona have a good coach who help them to finish last season very well. They will have a stable condition with a same coach and with a few good transfer, Aguero, Delay.

I really don't like Koeman so much, maybe because of some decisions took after his appointment. One of this was Suarez who was a key player and in just a few months after Koeman appointment he was sold to Atletico and last season he helped them win the LaLiga title. And with a pproper striker's absence, Barcelona struggled so much otherwise they would have been the another team contesting in top 3 positions of LaLiga title.

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If this rumor is true, next season will be miserable for Real Madrid. First, there is only one experienced striker in their squad. If Benzema is injured, it will be difficult for Real Madrid to beat any weaker team. Second, their best and main defender Sergio Ramos has now joined PSG. If Varane leaves Real, Real Madrid will not have an experienced defender to handle the defense. The title cannot be won by relying on an experienced coach alone. Need to have a good squad.

Barcelona have a good coach who help them to finish last season very well. They will have a stable condition with a same coach and with a few good transfer, Aguero, Delay.

If Barcelona can not be stronger in a new season, in La Liga, Atletico Madrid will be the strongest and best candidate for the championship again.

Real Madrid will begin a new season with many doubt and I don't think they can beat either Atletico or Barcelona in order to take the championship.

At the start of the previous season, the Barcelona team was almost devastated. They lost many matches at once. Gradually Koeman stabilized the team. Barcelona has completed a number of transfers this season. To make the team stronger. Messi may not change the team. He will stay in Barcelona for one more season.
Atletico Madrid has put in a great performance this season. The team hasn’t changed much. Hopefully, they will perform well next season.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on July 04, 2021, 08:04:38 AM

If this rumor is true, next season will be miserable for Real Madrid. First, there is only one experienced striker in their squad. If Benzema is injured, it will be difficult for Real Madrid to beat any weaker team. Second, their best and main defender Sergio Ramos has now joined PSG. If Varane leaves Real, Real Madrid will not have an experienced defender to handle the defense. The title cannot be won by relying on an experienced coach alone. Need to have a good squad.

Barcelona have a good coach who help them to finish last season very well. They will have a stable condition with a same coach and with a few good transfer, Aguero, Delay.

If Barcelona can not be stronger in a new season, in La Liga, Atletico Madrid will be the strongest and best candidate for the championship again.

Real Madrid will begin a new season with many doubt and I don't think they can beat either Atletico or Barcelona in order to take the championship.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on July 04, 2021, 06:43:35 AM

There have been some rumours and news like Varane wants to leave Real Madrid. And Manchester United have come into line for him already. It'd be a really big loss for Real Madrid that's for sure. They already released Ramos. If Varane goes also, they should give a bigger importance to defender transfers first.

If this rumor is true, next season will be miserable for Real Madrid. First, there is only one experienced striker in their squad. If Benzema is injured, it will be difficult for Real Madrid to beat any weaker team. Second, their best and main defender Sergio Ramos has now joined PSG. If Varane leaves Real, Real Madrid will not have an experienced defender to handle the defense. The title cannot be won by relying on an experienced coach alone. Need to have a good squad.

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There have been some rumours and news like Varane wants to leave Real Madrid. And Manchester United have come into line for him already. It'd be a really big loss for Real Madrid that's for sure. They already released Ramos. If Varane goes also, they should give a bigger importance to defender transfers first.

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Basically Carlo Ancelotti is not completely new at Real Madrid, Ancelotti in the past has given Real Madrid the UCL and Copa del Rey titles. So I think Ancelotti's return to Madrid is no stranger and that way, at least Ancelotti can correct his past mistakes too. Let's see what changes will occur and I hope Ancelotti can start well like in the past.

Yes, Ancelotti did coach Real Madrid from 2013 to 2015. Although at that time Real Madrid won the Champions League (2013/2014) but Ancelotti failed to win the La Liga title. Now Ancelotti has a much bigger task than before because the current composition of Real Madrid squad is very different when compared to the era of Ronaldo et al.

To be a champion, what Real Madrid needs now is great players who have a winning mentality, so it's not just buying young players. Unfortunately, Real Madrid's current financial condition is not currently possible for large-scale spending.

This is 100% true. The Madrid he is now going to coach is extremely different from back then. The defense was very strong and in their best ages, Ronaldo was and decent backup strikers. Midfield was strong as well. Today I hardly know anyone. A lot will also depend on Atletico's and Barcelona's performance, but I highly doubt that any of the team will do another record like season with 95 points or so.

Ancelotti is not a master at winning championships, he shows himself well in cup matches. So it’s not worth waiting for Real Madrid to win in La Liga, and in the Champions League next season. The team is too weak, and there are no gains. Ramos is gone, Varane will leave soon. The midfielders have grown old and cannot keep up with the rhythm of the game. In the attack, one Benzema and he is no longer young. Buying one or two top players won't solve the problem. We need players for every position, except the goalkeeper.

Well, I like that Vinicius Junior from time to time, but he is also not constantly playing on a high level. He is not a guy who guarantees you 25 goals or more in La Liga per season. That's why superstars like Messi or Ronaldo are important to these clubs. In most of the cases you need an absolute ice cold top scorer to win trophies. I know Chelsea won the CL and didn't really have a top scorer, but usually that's the case. Benzema is ok, but as you said he is not the youngest either. In the end the mix of older and younger players is also important though.

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Quote from: hahay on July 02, 2021, 12:30:54 PM

Basically Carlo Ancelotti is not completely new at Real Madrid, Ancelotti in the past has given Real Madrid the UCL and Copa del Rey titles. So I think Ancelotti's return to Madrid is no stranger and that way, at least Ancelotti can correct his past mistakes too. Let's see what changes will occur and I hope Ancelotti can start well like in the past.

Yes, Ancelotti did coach Real Madrid from 2013 to 2015. Although at that time Real Madrid won the Champions League (2013/2014) but Ancelotti failed to win the La Liga title. Now Ancelotti has a much bigger task than before because the current composition of Real Madrid squad is very different when compared to the era of Ronaldo et al.

To be a champion, what Real Madrid needs now is great players who have a winning mentality, so it's not just buying young players. Unfortunately, Real Madrid's current financial condition is not currently possible for large-scale spending.

This is 100% true. The Madrid he is now going to coach is extremely different from back then. The defense was very strong and in their best ages, Ronaldo was and decent backup strikers. Midfield was strong as well. Today I hardly know anyone. A lot will also depend on Atletico's and Barcelona's performance, but I highly doubt that any of the team will do another record like season with 95 points or so.

Ancelotti is not a master at winning championships, he shows himself well in cup matches. So it’s not worth waiting for Real Madrid to win in La Liga, and in the Champions League next season. The team is too weak, and there are no gains. Ramos is gone, Varane will leave soon. The midfielders have grown old and cannot keep up with the rhythm of the game. In the attack, one Benzema and he is no longer young. Buying one or two top players won't solve the problem. We need players for every position, except the goalkeeper.

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Quote from: beerlover on July 03, 2021, 01:05:54 PM

I think the Ramos one was a known thing for a while inside, and they just didn't want to pay that much money for a veteran player who is out of the door anyway because of his age, but I doubt that Varane thing was something they planned, certainly not with Ramos leaving at the same season, they would have kept Ramos one more season if they knew that Varane would leave, however dude just wanted to get out.
I still think that it is Real Madrid and they have a ton of money and they could end up using that money to get defenders, they already got one and they are looking for another.
Instead of making a big spending and get another superstar like they always do each season, for example instead of getting Mbappe or something like that, they could just instead split that money and buy two amazing defenders all they have to do is convince those players to come join them.

In any case, the very status of both the super club and the financial capabilities should allow Real Madrid to find defenders of a decent level for themselves. As for Ramos, I would like to say the following: Sergio was not just a defender, but the leader of the team, the so-called leader of the locker room. It was not by chance that there was information that the non-extension of the contract was due to the deterioration of relations between Ramos and Florentino Perez, when after the 1-4 defeat to Ajax, Ramos, who missed the game due to disqualification, stood up for the team, and then clashed verbally with the boss. Therefore, everything is not clear here, especially since Ancelotti stated that he could not imagine a team without Ramos.

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Quote from: abhiseshakana on July 03, 2021, 01:12:13 AM

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To be a champion, what Real Madrid needs now is great players who have a winning mentality, so it's not just buying young players. Unfortunately, Real Madrid's current financial condition is not currently possible for large-scale spending.

Yes, he wasn't that bad at that time, but actually I liked Zidane more. A tough task awaits anceloti.
Indeed, until now I have not heard any official news about the transfer of players made by Madrid. I also didn't hear about their finances. I hope they just wait for the Euros and the Copa America to finish. They have to spend if they want to compete for the La Liga and UCL titles.

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