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~I'm not sure Barcelona will still be okay if Messi leaves, because to get back up and improve that management will at least take a long time to get back to being at its best.
You are right. Messi has a big role for Barcelona squad, as I ever said that he is the soul of the Barcelona team now. Messi's role is irreplaceable, even Barcelona buy a superstar, no guarantee that the superstar can fit with the team instantly. Moreover, Messi is the captain of Barcelona squad right now, it should be a big loss if Messi leaves the squad in the next season. I cannot imagine how bad the condition in Barca squad if no Messi there!

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The captain is the last to leave the ship. But Messi, instead of forcing the management to make changes, simply leaves the team in a crisis. Great players don't do that. He'd better leave. And I think Barcelona will benefit from this.

I think that Messi did his best and helped Barcelona a lot in the past.
I think he gave more to Barca than he received back.
He is not married with them and have right to leave 😀
I feel that soon we will see great reunion between Messi and Pep 😆

Messi just wants to reunion or join Pep, because if Pep's contract is not extended I think Messi will stay at Barca but anything can happen. If Messi leaves then that will only make Barca even more devastated I feel, because when Messi doesn't play because the injury has shown that Barca still has a dependency with Messi. For that reason, I'm not sure Barcelona will still be okay if Messi leaves, because to get back up and improve that management will at least take a long time to get back to being at its best.
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Drama about Messi still continue, Barca want to extend his contract because club knows if they need him.
I think it is only about time that Messi will sign his new contract in Barcelona. He has got everything he wants in Barcelona, so I doubt if he really braves to leave it. I know he is a special player, but I am not sure if he will get special treatment like in Barcelona if he moves to another club. Also, it is not easy to adapt to a new club, even it may become a nightmare. For me, it is better to stay than leaving for another club with a high risk for his career.

Could it be that it is still a dilemma for Lionel Messi to leave Barcelona? I know this can be a new dream for Messi if the wrong move to another club, his career can fade because it is difficult to adapt but Barcelona will also not be like it used to be if there is still a prolonged conflict maybe now is not a special person at Barcelona but Messi must reconsider this. because this is the continuation of the future for them.
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Drama about Messi still continue, Barca want to extend his contract because club knows if they need him.
I think it is only about time that Messi will sign his new contract in Barcelona. He has got everything he wants in Barcelona, so I doubt if he really braves to leave it. I know he is a special player, but I am not sure if he will get special treatment like in Barcelona if he moves to another club. Also, it is not easy to adapt to a new club, even it may become a nightmare. For me, it is better to stay than leaving for another club with a high risk for his career.

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If Messi really leave Barcelona , something worse is waiting for Barcelona next season .  I think Bartomeu should resign now and change the coach .  That would be the best decision for a better future for Barcelona

I think it will be good just waiting for the process, Barca could be without a title, play badly but this has to be done for regeneration. This process will take some time, and the results are not immediately visible. Maybe the fans are ready to go without a title, the game is not good, things will look difficult at the start, but if the management is serious it will be good for the future. The transfer market this time must be put to good use by the coach, the selection of players must think about his project to continue and live long, not just what the coach wants for one season.
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I think that Messi did his best and helped Barcelona a lot in the past.
I think he gave more to Barca than he received back.
He is not married with them and have right to leave 😀
I feel that soon we will see great reunion between Messi and Pep 😆
Without Barca, Messi does not have what we have now. Without Messi, Barca don't get too many trophies in last 20 years. Debate can occur but the fact is Messi is a last piece of Barca squad, and tiki-taka is completed with Messi and Pep.

Barca and Messi need each other. They don't own the other side.

I mean Messi can leave without any feeling of doubts he has with Barca. I think he feel how was and bitter it is but we as the observers can not say what he does, and will do is right or wrong. Of course, a legend like Messi should retire at his one-club since his debut so far.

So much for personal sadness, denial, and hope that Messi should stay with Barca. It is over to put it bluntly. Bartolomeu already threathens to resign if Messi won't leave Barca. Philippe Coutinho is being groomed to be Messi replacement, and Manchester City will give 100 million Euros to Messi as part of the deal. I don't know about you guys but Messi has to move on to greener and better pastures and teams that would give him that and good team management will be a welcome change for Messi. Let's move on. 
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I think that Messi did his best and helped Barcelona a lot in the past.
I think he gave more to Barca than he received back.
He is not married with them and have right to leave 😀
I feel that soon we will see great reunion between Messi and Pep 😆
Without Barca, Messi does not have what we have now. Without Messi, Barca don't get too many trophies in last 20 years. Debate can occur but the fact is Messi is a last piece of Barca squad, and tiki-taka is completed with Messi and Pep.

Barca and Messi need each other. They don't own the other side.

I mean Messi can leave without any feeling of doubts he has with Barca. I think he feel how was and bitter it is but we as the observers can not say what he does, and will do is right or wrong. Of course, a legend like Messi should retire at his one-club since his debut so far.
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The captain is the last to leave the ship. But Messi, instead of forcing the management to make changes, simply leaves the team in a crisis. Great players don't do that. He'd better leave. And I think Barcelona will benefit from this.

I think that Messi did his best and helped Barcelona a lot in the past.
I think he gave more to Barca than he received back.
He is not married with them and have right to leave 😀
I feel that soon we will see great reunion between Messi and Pep 😆
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The captain is the last to leave the ship. But Messi, instead of forcing the management to make changes, simply leaves the team in a crisis. Great players don't do that. He'd better leave. And I think Barcelona will benefit from this.
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In my opinion, Messi will not go anywhere. He was dissatisfied with the leadership of Barcelona. And probably he understood or someone told him that his alleged departure could cause dissatisfaction among the fans. And under pressure, the current leadership will resign. And then new elections, the new president, who owes Messi and, accordingly, a new contract.

Yeah, Bartomeu must leave Barcelona sooner or later. We have seen Barcelona's gameplay in this season. I have rarely seen such a bad game Barcelona. Barcelona team needed some drastic changes, we need some good defender and we also need a goal machine like Messi. If Messi really leave Barcelona, something worse is waiting for Barcelona next season.  I think Bartomeu should resign now and change the coach.  That would be the best decision for a better future for Barcelona.

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Lastly after the humiliating defeat they suffered at the hands of Bayern, their newly appointed coach decides to tell Messi that his privileges are over, and now he’s just a regular team player.



Is this actually true? To be honest, it probably depends on how much control he has over the club/behind the scenes but sometimes a reality check for divas is a dose of reality they need. I have no idea whether this is true of Messi but if he's thrown his toys out of the pram just because he's been told he's not going to get special privileges then this is a bit petty. I still don't think he's going to leave but surely his reputation there with both the board and fans will be soured unless they love him blindly so much he will be forgvien no matter what he does.

In my opinion, Messi will not go anywhere. He was dissatisfied with the leadership of Barcelona. And probably he understood or someone told him that his alleged departure could cause dissatisfaction among the fans. And under pressure, the current leadership will resign. And then new elections, the new president, who owes Messi and, accordingly, a new contract.

Nothing is 100% certain in life except death who would have thought Ronaldo would leave Real Madrid for Juventus? He told them when he was ready to leave, he needed new challenge, environment, new friends, new location. They allowed him leave. Same thing with Messi if he eventually wants to leave and the  the buying team meets all the criteria set by Barcelona. They will definitely allow him go. I'm not seeing that happening anytime soon. Even if Messi would leave Barcelona it wouldn't be for a team that he will one day play against Barcelona maybe his childhood football team in Argentina or somewhere away from Europe.

Big difference. Messi is a one club man and Ronaldo had already left Lisbon and United. I'm sure he'll play for a couple of other clubs before he retires as well. I read the other day that Italy only has 25% taxes so that was one of the reasons why he went there. Maybe Messi will go there for the same reasons too.
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In my opinion, Messi will not go anywhere. He was dissatisfied with the leadership of Barcelona. And probably he understood or someone told him that his alleged departure could cause dissatisfaction among the fans. And under pressure, the current leadership will resign. And then new elections, the new president, who owes Messi and, accordingly, a new contract.

Nothing is 100% certain in life except death who would have thought Ronaldo would leave Real Madrid for Juventus? He told them when he was ready to leave, he needed new challenge, environment, new friends, new location. They allowed him leave. Same thing with Messi if he eventually wants to leave and the  the buying team meets all the criteria set by Barcelona. They will definitely allow him go. I'm not seeing that happening anytime soon. Even if Messi would leave Barcelona it wouldn't be for a team that he will one day play against Barcelona maybe his childhood football team in Argentina or somewhere away from Europe.
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In my opinion, Messi will not go anywhere. He was dissatisfied with the leadership of Barcelona. And probably he understood or someone told him that his alleged departure could cause dissatisfaction among the fans. And under pressure, the current leadership will resign. And then new elections, the new president, who owes Messi and, accordingly, a new contract.
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Drama about Messi still continue, Barca want to extend his contract because club knows if they need him. But, some media's mentioned if Messi not make a decision atm. If, Messi asking something impossible for Barca, official will let him go, with around 600 mil Euro. Based on Local media's in Indonesia they say if Man City still interest no matter how much messi's prices.

Well, this is going to be the hot topic of this summer.
Even if any other team makes big moves and sign a lot of players Messi is going to be the topic that would interest people.
I hope his transfer is going to end up soon in order to focus on other topics then.
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Drama about Messi still continue, Barca want to extend his contract because club knows if they need him. But, some media's mentioned if Messi not make a decision atm. If, Messi asking something impossible for Barca, official will let him go, with around 600 mil Euro. Based on Local media's in Indonesia they say if Man City still interest no matter how much messi's prices.

@masulum it’s not drama because he’s hurt by their behaviour, and it all began when he was accused of deliberately playing bad football to get their manager sacked, which we all know isn’t true.

If that wasn’t bad enough then the board claimed that the player’s refused to take a pay cut due to covid, which was once again false as all the player’s had agreed to take a pay cut.

Lastly after the humiliating defeat they suffered at the hands of Bayern, their newly appointed coach decides to tell Messi that his privileges are over, and now he’s just a regular team player.

What would you expect Messi to do? accept such kind of humiliation again and again, and for what’s it worth I hope that he gets to walk away as a free transfer, because that’s the best revenge he can get on Barcelona board for constantly humiliating him.

Sources:

https://talksport.com/football/665283/lionel-messi-eric-abidal-barcelona/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8167609/Lionel-Messi-confirms-Barcelona-players-70-cent-wage-cut-hits-club-AGAIN.html

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/53786666

https://www.teamtalk.com/news/messi-stunned-barcelona-exit-koeman-agent-next-club
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Drama about Messi still continue, Barca want to extend his contract because club knows if they need him. But, some media's mentioned if Messi not make a decision atm. If, Messi asking something impossible for Barca, official will let him go, with around 600 mil Euro. Based on Local media's in Indonesia they say if Man City still interest no matter how much messi's prices.
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Yeah I read this too but with all this drama about Messi, I preferred to not add another one lol. I read there is discussion with a club in Miami? Dunno but sounds weird to jump from one of the best leagues to a lower one..
I also think so, but this is only one reason Messi and for me quite touching...
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Messi didn't like the way Barcelona got rid of Luis Suarez. The Uruguayan bomber was contacted by phone that he was no longer needed next season. In fact, Suarez is Messi's partner on the pitch as well as his best friend off the pitch. Messi thinks Suarez deserves more respect.

I don't really like Messi and don't really follow the news about him but I like if he moves to Inter Milan not Inter Miami lol, while waiting for him to retire from football due to his old age.
Nah Messi will not end his career in random clubs for sure IF ever he moved from Barca. I am talking about Suarez, I read there is talk about him joining a Miami club. What you said about Barca no more needs him is shocking. The guy was awesome before his injury and without him Barca wouldn't be 2nd maybe, getting ride of him that way isn't acceptable!!
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Yeah I read this too but with all this drama about Messi, I preferred to not add another one lol. I read there is discussion with a club in Miami? Dunno but sounds weird to jump from one of the best leagues to a lower one..
I also think so, but this is only one reason Messi and for me quite touching...
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Messi didn't like the way Barcelona got rid of Luis Suarez. The Uruguayan bomber was contacted by phone that he was no longer needed next season. In fact, Suarez is Messi's partner on the pitch as well as his best friend off the pitch. Messi thinks Suarez deserves more respect.

I don't really like Messi and don't really follow the news about him but I like if he moves to Inter Milan not Inter Miami lol, while waiting for him to retire from football due to his old age.
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I am not sure that Messi really want to leave Barca or it is his pressure on Barca's president Bartomeu.
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I got this from Barca's Twitter. Is this right or wrong? I can't prove it. I also had read that the new coach of Barca has also given rules for all players, nothing special about all the players they have management and all coaches have to respect it. You can view it here: https://twitter.com/fcbarcelonaorg/status/1298369403134922752?s=19

That's not their real twitter. This is: https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona

Messi needs to be sold or released for free. Without him, building a new team will be easier. But letting go of Messi would be suicide for the Barcelona president. Therefore, he will be held by any means.

Not much they can do if he exercises the clause in his contract that allows him to leave, but the question is is that still valid due to the covid delays. I'm sure there will be a legal battle if he does try to go though. Either way his standing with the club will be soured. Do they really want a player that threatens to leave or is probably trying to run the club his own way? Maybe it's best for them to let him go if his ego is getting in the way. He's not going to stay there forever anyway so maybe it's time for Barca to start planning for life without him.
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I got this from Barca's Twitter. Is this right or wrong? I can't prove it. I also had read that the new coach of Barca has also given rules for all players, nothing special about all the players they have management and all coaches have to respect it. You can view it here: https://twitter.com/fcbarcelonaorg/status/1298369403134922752?s=19


That's not their real twitter. This is: https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona

Messi needs to be sold or released for free. Without him, building a new team will be easier. But letting go of Messi would be suicide for the Barcelona president. Therefore, he will be held by any means.

Not much they can do if he exercises the clause in his contract that allows him to leave, but the question is is that still valid due to the covid delays. I'm sure there will be a legal battle if he does try to go though. Either way his standing with the club will be soured. Do they really want a player that threatens to leave or is probably trying to run the club his own way? Maybe it's best for them to let him go if his ego is getting in the way. He's not going to stay there forever anyway so maybe it's time for Barca to start planning for life without him.
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