La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 4491.

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Quote from: snipie on October 31, 2020, 04:42:22 PM

Alaves 1-1 Barcelona and 6 minutes left in the game. The problem is Barcelona playing vs 10 players for 30 minutes and the result is still a draw.. Magnificent performance Undecided

It's sad I think they are still like Real Madrid will dominate the league this season. Although the score ended in a draw, Alves played with ten players, since the 62nd minute, after Jota received a second yellow card, unfortunately the peacocks could not take advantage of it. Although the season is still running at the beginning, they are eight points behind the top of the standings. If it continues like this, Barca are ready to lose their favorite team to win the league.

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Barcelona needs Ter Stegen more than Messi at the moment. Barcelona's defense never played well and Stegen made up for the shortcomings with his game.

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It was terrible to see that barcelona could not even defeat 10 man from their opponent. it was with 30 minutes to play, you expect at least a win for them.
they never should have let go suarez. and now they already 6 points behind real madrid.

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Quote from: mindrust on November 01, 2020, 06:14:42 AM

There is no team, no manager, no president. Only Messi.

Barcelona = Messi, now.

Messi should direct the team, buy the new players, manage the club's bank accounts and do everything else. Good luck It will work wonderfully.

I agree with you, Barcelona needs drastic change. Taking about performance definitely teams are getting worst which the board and coach didn't want to admit, yet the outcome are demonstrating so now. This is what you can expect when our coach Koeman doesn't rely on our most ideal players in the field. However, The players need more chemistry because they’re not linking up!

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hmph..

Quote from: tomahawk9 on November 01, 2020, 07:33:06 AM

[Still, i'll back the Green-and-Whites today, this is probably the most winnable match they've had in the last month in terms of quality of quality of squad, players, etc of the opposing team...\

Look like your decision to fight with Betis is the right decision, 27" Tello add another goal for Betis and now leading 2 - 0. From the shots data, till 30" Elche still failed to makes any shot. Elche need to do something for their attacking proccess. If not, they will be more hard to create a goal on the 2nd half. In other side, Betis very possible to create another goal on the 2nd half or maybe before first half ended.

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Quote from: slaman29 on November 01, 2020, 04:54:53 AM

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Quote from: snipie on October 31, 2020, 02:23:39 PM

So far so good Real Madrid won with 4 goals, ATM just won too with 3 goals. We will see if Barcelona will win its game against Alaves as expected or not!

I should have followed your advice on Atlético Madrid! I bet on the draw and that's the only game I missed! I was not sure they were going to win again but I was wrong... and lost a nice profit. Next time!

Seriously, this is our worst start since 2002 and that wasn't even the season I remember the most for being shitty, but if we have to force ourselves to fight back and only to get one point? Yes, I know it's Alaves at home and they are sometimes our bogey team but when you give away a goal like we did, impossible to get the confidence unshaken.

And yeah both Madrid teams profit.

@slaman29 yesterday I was expecting Real Madrid to lose their match, but they surprised me by winning it, and on the other hand I believed that Barcelona would easily win their match, however it looks like their poor form continues. Furthermore if the results don’t improve for Barcelona then Koeman will be facing the sack, as the presidential candidate Victor has made it clear that he wants Pep or Xavi to coach Barcelona.

Sources:

https://www.barcablaugranes.com/2020/11/1/21544167/fc-barcelona-news-1-november-2020-barca-held-by-alaves-koeman-worried-by-start

https://www.football-espana.net/2020/10/30/barcelona-presidential-hopeful-victor-font-wants-man-city-boss-pep-guardiola-to-return

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/12448734/barcelona-koeman-sack-xavi-font-bartomeu/

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Quote from: Porfirii on October 26, 2020, 04:57:51 PM

One little question,

If I'm not wrong, Spain will go into lockdown tonight. How will it affect the Liga? In a first moment, it seems that displacements will be allowed for work, so players will be able to travel and play, but what happens if in a few weeks/months the measures toughen? Will the Liga be suspended?

And on the other hand, the stadiums are empty, how long do you think some teams can stand with the subsequent decrease of income?

the teams go first of all to reduce the salaries of the players and club employees, do not make transfers. plus some of the club's payroll was unloaded by selling players with a big paycheck. I think they will continue to play games, but there will be tight control of the players' health.

yeah, and one should count on the fact that most of income is from TV rights, it is not from full stadiums, so this income will continue, especially now when they play all matches at different time, so that one can watch all matches without interruption, this will enlarge TV rights check for many clubs, and provide steady revenue for them
on the other hand, they can always reduce salaries to their players, as all other businesses do for their employees

That's right, but income from TV rights is especially high from bars and clubs and many will have to close their doors or, at least, reduce the capacity by at least a %50, so it's no longer profitable the ROI for them if they have to pay these rights.

Rights from particulars will keep on giving high income, but there will be a loss for them, anyway.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on October 31, 2020, 04:21:03 PM

[not so] fun fact [for Barca fans] : In the last 4 years, Alaves have never lost a home game after scoring the 1-0. Source

huh, Alaves have it pretty easy at home, they just need to go all-out attack in the first half of every match, score and then they're pretty much garanteed a good result LOL

anyhow, three more matches today, but i'll keep my eyes on Betis - Elche. The former are going through a rough patch right now (1W in 5 matches), they'll face newly promoted side Elche who are unbeaten in the last 4 matches. Still, i'll back the Green-and-Whites today, this is probably the most winnable match they've had in the last month in terms of quality of quality of squad, players, etc of the opposing team...so surely the 39 years old legend Joaquin got the team motivated as hell to get the 3 pts, no? go, warriors!

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Quote from: CryptocurencyKing on November 01, 2020, 05:20:41 AM

Could this be the downfall of FC Barcelona, the quality of players has drastically dropped, it's management board set for a planned resignation and they've been performing rather poorly at the games. Imagine how Alaves managed to hold them down to a 1-1 draw with Deportivo Alaves having just 10 men on the pitch. The red card seemed not to make a lot of difference though, the final minutes of the game was tensed, lots of shots and a lot was on target but, Fernando Pacheco had all his net in check.

Real Madrid seems to be having a pretty much go in the league, winning yesterdays game R. Madrid 4-1 SD Huesca and now tops the league with 8 points clear from FC Barcelona and 2 points clear from Real sociedad at second place. FCB really needs to start winning matches.

I was also speechless seeing Barcelona's poor performance, Barcelona should have won against Alaves, especially when Alaves got a red card.
Like Barcelona players have experienced a decline in quality, I even doubt that this season Barcelona can enter the top 3. Very different from
Real Madrid's very convincing appearance. Now Barcelona is ranked 12, with the last 5 matches in La Liga only managed to win one. It's the
start of a very bad season for Barcelona.

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I also never understood why Barcelona appointed that coach Koeman. He has only failed all the clubs where he has coached. Were better alternatives.
First step must be to get rid of Griezmann. He is not even a shine of the player that was so successful for Atletico Madrid.

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There is no team, no manager, no president. Only Messi.

Barcelona = Messi, now.

Messi should direct the team, buy the new players, manage the club's bank accounts and do everything else. Good luck It will work wonderfully.

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Could this be the downfall of FC Barcelona, the quality of players has drastically dropped, it's management board set for a planned resignation and they've been performing rather poorly at the games. Imagine how Alaves managed to hold them down to a 1-1 draw with Deportivo Alaves having just 10 men on the pitch. The red card seemed not to make a lot of difference though, the final minutes of the game was tensed, lots of shots and a lot was on target but, Fernando Pacheco had all his net in check.

Real Madrid seems to be having a pretty much go in the league, winning yesterdays game R. Madrid 4-1 SD Huesca and now tops the league with 8 points clear from FC Barcelona and 2 points clear from Real sociedad at second place. FCB really needs to start winning matches.

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Quote from: hd49728 on November 01, 2020, 02:23:55 AM

Barcelona now looks like Arsenal or Manchester United. They get lost in their strategies and get big failures on the pitch, leagues, transfers. They spent too much money for transfers but their results on leagues (national League or Champions League) are very poor.

Barcelona in few seasons recently are very unstable and weak to attacks of opponents. They can get big wins but not too long later will get their fans very disappointed with big losses. They are all not good, and stable for long runs (in leagues or tournaments). The time of Messi is ending and Koeman or Barcelona can not rely on him to rebuild the team.

If they win a title, it might be a last one for this generation of players. AC Milan got their last trophy with Ibra but they only slipped down till the return of Ibra in second half of last season.

Another bad news from FC Barcelona. We all know about their tense financial situation but it appears that they now have to force massive cuts to their players wages otherwise the whole club could go bankrupt. Source

Crazy to see what's going on at Barca right now. I thought that after Bartomeu left, the club would finally stop to generate bad headlines but it looks like the problems go much deeper. It could really be like you said and their sporting success fades more and more in the next years (especially once Messi is gone).

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Barcelona worst display was the first half. Busquets, Dembele all were not performing well enough. They weren't able to find any kind of opening. Well in truth it felt like they weren't trying actually. In second half after the changes, I had some hope after watching Trincao and Pedri play but Alaves really played that half well and defended them strong.

Mistake must be the spotlight of the match but it was just a mistake. Happens for anyone but given the possession and shots Barcelona had Barcelona should have won that easily. They had so much scoring chances all gone wasted.

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Quote from: Karartma1 on November 01, 2020, 04:14:36 AM

Quote from: snipie on October 31, 2020, 02:23:39 PM

So far so good Real Madrid won with 4 goals, ATM just won too with 3 goals. We will see if Barcelona will win its game against Alaves as expected or not!

I should have followed your advice on Atlético Madrid! I bet on the draw and that's the only game I missed! I was not sure they were going to win again but I was wrong... and lost a nice profit. Next time!

Seriously, this is our worst start since 2002 and that wasn't even the season I remember the most for being shitty, but if we have to force ourselves to fight back and only to get one point? Yes, I know it's Alaves at home and they are sometimes our bogey team but when you give away a goal like we did, impossible to get the confidence unshaken.

And yeah both Madrid teams profit.

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Quote from: snipie on October 31, 2020, 02:23:39 PM

So far so good Real Madrid won with 4 goals, ATM just won too with 3 goals. We will see if Barcelona will win its game against Alaves as expected or not!

I should have followed your advice on Atlético Madrid! I bet on the draw and that's the only game I missed! I was not sure they were going to win again but I was wrong... and lost a nice profit. Next time!

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Quote from: boltz on October 31, 2020, 04:31:08 PM

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Alavés 1 - 0 Barcelona

unbelievable that barcelona conceded a goal like that Shocked

I think Koehman is not a good coach for Barcelona but he's been brought to Barca just to maintain them to a certain level until they will find a proper coach so no wonder why they're not feeling their game today as we can see Griezman scored and just had another goal invalid for offside. If the old CEO will come to barca , we might see another run of Pep-Messi and this would awesome to watch.

that way of playing that was characteristic of barcelona is getting lost, i saw a barcelona that was not intimidating and that had great problems in scoring goals. definitely the situation in barcelona is very serious. this season it becomes more evident and it seems to me that the chances of fighting to win the league are also distancing from each game. with this weak performance it will only attract the anger of the fans.

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Quote from: Darkoth89 on October 31, 2020, 05:09:21 PM

Pretty sure Koeman thought a lot about his decision before going to Barca. He really managed to build something great with the Dutch national team and if he had the feeling that he was only meant as a temporary solution he wouldn't have come to Barca imo. And I don't really think it's time to judge him already. Barca had some rough months behind them with a lot of drama, give Koeman some time to work and see if he can bring Barca back on track. With the Elftal he has proven he can build something up.

Barcelona now looks like Arsenal or Manchester United. They get lost in their strategies and get big failures on the pitch, leagues, transfers. They spent too much money for transfers but their results on leagues (national League or Champions League) are very poor.

Barcelona in few seasons recently are very unstable and weak to attacks of opponents. They can get big wins but not too long later will get their fans very disappointed with big losses. They are all not good, and stable for long runs (in leagues or tournaments). The time of Messi is ending and Koeman or Barcelona can not rely on him to rebuild the team.

If they win a title, it might be a last one for this generation of players. AC Milan got their last trophy with Ibra but they only slipped down till the return of Ibra in second half of last season.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on October 31, 2020, 06:13:49 PM

Quote from: boltz on October 31, 2020, 04:31:08 PM

Quote from: Slow death on October 31, 2020, 03:33:35 PM

Alavés 1 - 0 Barcelona

unbelievable that barcelona conceded a goal like that Shocked

I think Koehman is not a good coach for Barcelona but he's been brought to Barca just to maintain them to a certain level until they will find a proper coach so no wonder why they're not feeling their game today as we can see Griezman scored and just had another goal invalid for offside. If the old CEO will come to barca , we might see another run of Pep-Messi and this would awesome to watch.

Koehman should be replaced with a better coach. I doubt pep will be leaving city for barca again. I just see that he doesn't wanna come back again to the barca.
Remember even messy has boycotted koehman at the first session of training which has proven its players didn't confidence with its players. A good team will happen when there's good interaction between the players and coach.

Pep loves money , at his age it's reasonable to do so lol

Wait wait guys are you calling koehman and messy on purpose?
I find it makes sense joking on messy but koehman? I don't get it Cheesy

, anyways it's just to early to say koeman career has ended with this bad start at Barcelona.
I'm sure there's quite a lot of space to improve with the league has only played 6 times for barcelona 2 win 2 draw 2 lost. What if from next week they are unbeatable like having only 2 draw 2 lost and the rest of it just win win and winning , what would you do? Yeah that's true , it's too early to judge now.

2 times lost and 2 times draw all of them barcelona did quite well in possession, the manager just need to figure out how to break these deadlock situations, he is adapting..

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Quote from: boltz on October 31, 2020, 04:31:08 PM

Quote from: Slow death on October 31, 2020, 03:33:35 PM

Alavés 1 - 0 Barcelona

unbelievable that barcelona conceded a goal like that Shocked

I think Koehman is not a good coach for Barcelona but he's been brought to Barca just to maintain them to a certain level until they will find a proper coach so no wonder why they're not feeling their game today as we can see Griezman scored and just had another goal invalid for offside. If the old CEO will come to barca , we might see another run of Pep-Messi and this would awesome to watch.

Koehman should be replaced with a better coach. I doubt pep will be leaving city for barca again. I just see that he doesn't wanna come back again to the barca.
Remember even messy has boycotted koehman at the first session of training which has proven its players didn't confidence with its players. A good team will happen when there's good interaction between the players and coach.

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