La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 4529.

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Quote from: tbterryboy on March 02, 2020, 02:37:10 PM

Everyone was expecting Real Madrid to be the better team and many people wagered on real Madrid as well but let's not forget that even on their bad streak this is the Barça we are talking about, no matter what happens and no matter who they are playing against, you can't simply write them off.

Barcelona at any year at any day has a chance to beat any team, that is why this game was so close in odds and should have been as well.

However, Real Madrid was simply the better team and they deserved the win they got and the first place they have as well. Barcelona is only one point behind them now and the league is far from over so anything could still happen from now to end of the season.

I agree that Real was better team but only in the second half.
In the beginning of the match Barcelona was much better but didn't have luck to score goal.
Both teams had their chances but on the end Real was more lucky.
Messi didn't play well and couldn't make difference this time.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on March 02, 2020, 06:00:25 PM

Trying out a new formation in El Classico was not really good idea. It didn't surprise Real Madrid but instead surprised the Barca players and their fans. I cannot understand why the coach didn't put Rakitic as the starting players in the match. AFAIK, he is one of the vital players in Barca's midfield. I think he is much better than Arthur.

Even the commentators where quite surprised by how he had set up the formation because Barça have traditionally been a 4-3-3 team.
Sometimes the surprises work, sometimes they don't if the opponent is able to adapt. I guess he was trying to copy notes from Manchester City because the change of tactics turned out to work for them in the Champion's League against the Blancos.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on March 02, 2020, 02:46:09 PM

I guess the Coach was trying out a new formation in the match in away trying to surprise Real Madrid.

Trying out a new formation in El Classico was not really good idea. It didn't surprise Real Madrid but instead surprised the Barca players and their fans. I cannot understand why the coach didn't put Rakitic as the starting players in the match. AFAIK, he is one of the vital players in Barca's midfield. I think he is much better than Arthur.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on March 02, 2020, 09:42:44 AM

Quote from: watergold on March 02, 2020, 09:33:53 AM

The point is there is no Luiz Suarez on the front lines so that the Barcelona striker is less than optimal because he is injured and must take a long rest, this is what makes Lionel Messi not as good as expected again.

People stated that Messi can do everything. It means even if no Suarez, it is not a big problem. There is another top attacker, Griezman. Why Messi should depend on Suarez? Does it mean without Suarez, Messi is nothing? I think the problem is in the strategy and the luck itself. You sometimes have done everything and with your best, but you are just unlucky at that time. Cheesy

I believe that the relationship you have with your fellow teammates matters alot , Messi is not depending on Suarez, it's just that they know how to work together, Greizman is a top striker but the collaboration with Messi is not there yet, that's why they are finding it somewhat difficult to play together,

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Quote from: FlamingFingers on March 02, 2020, 04:03:21 AM

I don't think that the problem with the officials is the reason for Barcelona recent poor performance, but the selection of players, I was surprised seeing Vidal playing as a winger, while Fati was on bench, Injury crisis is what is rocking Barça squad, without the right players Messi might not perform very well as expected

It was more like a 4-4-2 formation with Vidal getting back to midfield. I guess the Coach was trying out a new formation in the match in away trying to surprise Real Madrid. In fact the gamble almost worked but when Vidal was substituted, Barcelona became so vulnerable and conceded the first goal with on 5 minutes. His replacement Martin Braithwaite didn't even do anything to try to challenge Vinicious on his way to scoring the first goal

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Everyone was expecting Real Madrid to be the better team and many people wagered on real Madrid as well but let's not forget that even on their bad streak this is the Barça we are talking about, no matter what happens and no matter who they are playing against, you can't simply write them off.

Barcelona at any year at any day has a chance to beat any team, that is why this game was so close in odds and should have been as well.

However, Real Madrid was simply the better team and they deserved the win they got and the first place they have as well. Barcelona is only one point behind them now and the league is far from over so anything could still happen from now to end of the season.

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Quote from: tokeweed on March 02, 2020, 09:07:05 AM

Prolly got mad after their loss vs City. Lol. There's a couple tough-ish fixtures that could make them lose some points tho. There's Valencia at home and Real Sociedad away, back to back. And there's Getafe at home followed by Athletic away.

I'd definitely put a bit of money on Sevilla and Getafe to win it, but strangely can't find any lines on my bookies. Surely with 12 games left someone's got odds on them. Or maybe I'm not searching the right way.

I'm really enjoying this season, the football overall is a bit down in quality but loving the fighting chance for top 4. Feels like a lot of the giants are in flux this year for some reason (or it's just my team doing so well that's making me see things differently).

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Quote from: buwaytress on March 02, 2020, 02:48:40 AM

But the news also for me is that Getafe won again. Dark Horse contender even with 12 games to go.

I've been backing Getafe for the past few weeks, been getting some decent profits tbh, last one was just too good: Getafe to win @2.39 versus a bottom-of-the-league side? count me in Wink

Not a bad day for the Madrid-based teams, they all won, except for Atletico :/

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Quote from: ampere on March 02, 2020, 04:35:52 AM

The elclasico was a fantastic match yesterday and it reiterates my facts that Valverde is still a better coach than setien.
Imagine trying to choke Madrid with cms?

Overall it was a good match, courtious pulled up fantastic saves and Vincius is developing well too.
Madrid is now top of the league and perhaps their consistency will win them the league

Valverde lacked tactics, I'm saying that Setien is any better than Valverde for Barcelona, but Valverde had more options in the attack than Setien have, and Real Madrid not any more consistent than Barcelona as far as this season is concerned. Both have been shitty and they should teams shold be glad that Atletico are not in a better shape too, If not this could be as season Atletico would have easily won the league.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on March 02, 2020, 11:54:36 AM

I doubt neither Messi nor Suarez is related to Barcelona winning all the time, of course having them on the team is really important and changes a lot of stuff but when you lack them on the squad you can't just say they are the reason why you lose neither. At the end of the deal Barcelona is a great club and they are still second in la liga so lets not act like barcelona is some 10th in the league and doing horribly they are still barcelona and some times Real just gets the league , barcelona doesn't become champions every single year, they either win it or stay second or at worst third even on the worst years.

The thing about messi however is the simple fact that dude is getting older and older, you can't expect messi to be great for another 20 years right? So maybe that decline already started, he is still one of the best players in the game but that doesn't mean he is not the messi we know 5 years ago or so.

In fact Barcelona without Suarez is struggling to keep its performance and without Messi i doubt it could hold one of the 5th first ranks in La Liga with its actual team and tactics... If Barca started without Messi and Suarez then the results would be more catastrophic...
I am not saying that those two players couldn't be replaced but changing the strategy is required for Barca without them!

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I doubt neither Messi nor Suarez is related to Barcelona winning all the time, of course having them on the team is really important and changes a lot of stuff but when you lack them on the squad you can't just say they are the reason why you lose neither. At the end of the deal Barcelona is a great club and they are still second in la liga so lets not act like barcelona is some 10th in the league and doing horribly they are still barcelona and some times Real just gets the league , barcelona doesn't become champions every single year, they either win it or stay second or at worst third even on the worst years.

The thing about messi however is the simple fact that dude is getting older and older, you can't expect messi to be great for another 20 years right? So maybe that decline already started, he is still one of the best players in the game but that doesn't mean he is not the messi we know 5 years ago or so.

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Quote from: watergold on March 02, 2020, 09:33:53 AM

Quote from: FlamingFingers on March 02, 2020, 04:03:21 AM

Quote from: Furious 7 on March 02, 2020, 03:30:47 AM

Currently Barcelona are performing poorly because there are some problems with its officials so that the players are less concentrated more for his team, so if faced with a large team it will be overwhelmed too now Barcelona is not like it used to be with agility Lionel Messi can be stopped with strategy their opponents so that more difficult Barca will win this season.

I don't think that the problem with the officials is the reason for Barcelona recent poor performance, but the selection of players, I was surprised seeing Vidal playing as a winger, while Fati was on bench, Injury crisis is what is rocking Barça squad, without the right players Messi might not perform very well as expected

The point is there is no Luiz Suarez on the front lines so that the Barcelona striker is less than optimal because he is injured and must take a long rest, this is what makes Lionel Messi not as good as expected again.
Real Madrid make use of it with a good chance the Barcelona formations are in chaos often lose or maybe the new coach hasn't adapted to Barcelona players?

So when Messi is injured and not included in the first line up we blame that he is not in the squad.
When Messi is on the squad but Suarez isn't, we will say that if Suarez was in the first team they are going to win?
Barcelona is a big club and should not rely on one or two players.

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Quote from: watergold on March 02, 2020, 09:33:53 AM

The point is there is no Luiz Suarez on the front lines so that the Barcelona striker is less than optimal because he is injured and must take a long rest, this is what makes Lionel Messi not as good as expected again.

People stated that Messi can do everything. It means even if no Suarez, it is not a big problem. There is another top attacker, Griezman. Why Messi should depend on Suarez? Does it mean without Suarez, Messi is nothing? I think the problem is in the strategy and the luck itself. You sometimes have done everything and with your best, but you are just unlucky at that time. Cheesy

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Quote from: FlamingFingers on March 02, 2020, 04:03:21 AM

Quote from: Furious 7 on March 02, 2020, 03:30:47 AM

Currently Barcelona are performing poorly because there are some problems with its officials so that the players are less concentrated more for his team, so if faced with a large team it will be overwhelmed too now Barcelona is not like it used to be with agility Lionel Messi can be stopped with strategy their opponents so that more difficult Barca will win this season.

I don't think that the problem with the officials is the reason for Barcelona recent poor performance, but the selection of players, I was surprised seeing Vidal playing as a winger, while Fati was on bench, Injury crisis is what is rocking Barça squad, without the right players Messi might not perform very well as expected

The point is there is no Luiz Suarez on the front lines so that the Barcelona striker is less than optimal because he is injured and must take a long rest, this is what makes Lionel Messi not as good as expected again.
Real Madrid make use of it with a good chance the Barcelona formations are in chaos often lose or maybe the new coach hasn't adapted to Barcelona players?

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Quote from: buwaytress on March 02, 2020, 02:48:40 AM

Ah well, Real were ruthless. Not that Barcelona needed a reminder but it seems that their sun truly is setting, I know it's a game and one game doesn't change anything but this one was a stark reminder that the earlier 0-0 was a warning sign, and this one is a threat that if they don't change, the Catalans will be made obsolete.

But the news also for me is that Getafe won again. Dark Horse contender even with 12 games to go.

Prolly got mad after their loss vs City. Lol. There's a couple tough-ish fixtures that could make them lose some points tho. There's Valencia at home and Real Sociedad away, back to back. And there's Getafe at home followed by Athletic away.

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I'm really shit. Should never ever ever EVER jinx my club like that again haha.

So painful to see that after climbing over them, they go and take top spot again. I know I said it myself yesterday that this game won't decide who the title winners are (12 games is so many it is basically a third of the marathon left) but if we keep losing like this, then we better be prepared to be disappointed end of season.

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The elclasico was a fantastic match yesterday and it reiterates my facts that Valverde is still a better coach than setien.
Imagine trying to choke Madrid with cms?

Overall it was a good match, courtious pulled up fantastic saves and Vincius is developing well too.
Madrid is now top of the league and perhaps their consistency will win them the league

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Quote from: Furious 7 on March 02, 2020, 03:30:47 AM

Currently Barcelona are performing poorly because there are some problems with its officials so that the players are less concentrated more for his team, so if faced with a large team it will be overwhelmed too now Barcelona is not like it used to be with agility Lionel Messi can be stopped with strategy their opponents so that more difficult Barca will win this season.

I don't think that the problem with the officials is the reason for Barcelona recent poor performance, but the selection of players, I was surprised seeing Vidal playing as a winger, while Fati was on bench, Injury crisis is what is rocking Barça squad, without the right players Messi might not perform very well as expected

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Quote from: swogerino on March 02, 2020, 01:55:07 AM

I knew Real Madrid would win that is why I won a good odd ticket yesterday including Real,Lyon and Universidad de Chile.I saw the game of Barcelona against Napoli where Barcelona didn’t dominate the game at all and they risked to even lose it.Real when playing at home and when there was the title fight in the match would have done anything to win and they did so.

Currently Barcelona are performing poorly because there are some problems with its officials so that the players are less concentrated more for his team, so if faced with a large team it will be overwhelmed too now Barcelona is not like it used to be with agility Lionel Messi can be stopped with strategy their opponents so that more difficult Barca will win this season.

Congratulations on your bet to win like me.

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Ah well, Real were ruthless. Not that Barcelona needed a reminder but it seems that their sun truly is setting, I know it's a game and one game doesn't change anything but this one was a stark reminder that the earlier 0-0 was a warning sign, and this one is a threat that if they don't change, the Catalans will be made obsolete.

But the news also for me is that Getafe won again. Dark Horse contender even with 12 games to go.

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