La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 - page 4551.

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Seriously, I didn't even know who the new Barcelona coach was before. I mean that I have never read news about him. Recently I tried to find out his background and which club he had coached. It turns out that in terms of achievement he is still below Valverde. Maybe his game philosophy fits into the culture of Barcelona

Barca like just want to save their faces at this time.

Aside from the guarantee that Setien is a Cruyffist, nothing can be expected from a Setien. Seeing how, none of the Barca coaches who smelled good among fans after the Pep era, apart from the trophy they offered, and how selfish Barca officials, Setien also did not need to expect much he could last long at Camp Nou.

many people are shocked by this change, even more shocked because not many people know of his successor. but he got a contract for 2 years, we'll see if there will be a change in the rest of La Liga match. if at least Setien can bring Barcelona champions, he will last longer, but if not I think you're right, he won't last long at camp nou. Is it possible that Pep is back to Barcelona if Pep fails this season to bring Man City as Champion?

Looks like Barcelona's manager will see how Setien trains Barcelona and what tactics he uses to stay on at Camp Nou.
I do not know what is not with Pep type manchester city does not champion whether there will be a dismissal for Pep and switch to Barcelona because that there are no rumors at all.

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Quote from: akmal1984 on January 15, 2020, 09:59:01 AM

Seriously, I didn't even know who the new Barcelona coach was before. I mean that I have never read news about him. Recently I tried to find out his background and which club he had coached. It turns out that in terms of achievement he is still below Valverde. Maybe his game philosophy fits into the culture of Barcelona

Barca like just want to save their faces at this time.

Aside from the guarantee that Setien is a Cruyffist, nothing can be expected from a Setien. Seeing how, none of the Barca coaches who smelled good among fans after the Pep era, apart from the trophy they offered, and how selfish Barca officials, Setien also did not need to expect much he could last long at Camp Nou.

many people are shocked by this change, even more shocked because not many people know of his successor. but he got a contract for 2 years, we'll see if there will be a change in the rest of La Liga match. if at least Setien can bring Barcelona champions, he will last longer, but if not I think you're right, he won't last long at camp nou. Is it possible that Pep is back to Barcelona if Pep fails this season to bring Man City as Champion?

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Quote from: akmal1984 on January 15, 2020, 09:59:01 AM

Seriously, I didn't even know who the new Barcelona coach was before. I mean that I have never read news about him. Recently I tried to find out his background and which club he had coached. It turns out that in terms of achievement he is still below Valverde. Maybe his game philosophy fits into the culture of Barcelona

Barca like just want to save their faces at this time.

Aside from the guarantee that Setien is a Cruyffist, nothing can be expected from a Setien. Seeing how, none of the Barca coaches who smelled good among fans after the Pep era, apart from the trophy they offered, and how selfish Barca officials, Setien also did not need to expect much he could last long at Camp Nou.

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Quote from: snipie on January 15, 2020, 03:58:20 PM

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Anyway, Barcelona game next time is relatively easier than Real one, so maybe Barca gonna leads with +2?

Yes, it's possible but it doesn't guarantee the results. Sometimes a small club can surprise everyone to make a draw or even win the match. So, both Barcelona and Real Madrid basically have the same chances to lose or to win in the remaining matches.

Quote from: Naida_BR on January 15, 2020, 11:18:14 AM

I feel that this competition exists because real and barca didn't improve their teams but they become both worse.

Become worse? Let's see which team will win the UEFA Champions League. If the winner is Barca or Real, you cannot state those are getting worse. Cheesy

Quote from: Naida_BR on January 15, 2020, 11:18:14 AM

Especially Real after all those signings is sad to see them having a mediocre performance.

Real plans for the long term. So, they choose many young players this season. You are too early saying they have mediocre performance. Remember that they need time to show their best performance. Moreover, they are young players, they need more time to adapt to their new team.

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Quote from: Maotezi on January 15, 2020, 11:23:39 AM

It's like missing a part of a team to be that old Real / Barca,
I'm fascinated by how much Livepool has progressed, while Real I'm sorry for being a fan, but this doesn't look like it before, except that a lot of money was spent and no one stood out, it's similar to Barca, but they kept it of his Hero, while Real lost him forever ... Cry

La liga in the previous years was way better than nowadays. Before there was a competition between Ronaldo and Messi, between many stars... Now, I feel like players are well-paid whether they played good or not so who cares?
Compare Premier league to La Liga and see how teams are playing and progressing...
Anyway, Barcelona game next time is relatively easier than Real one, so maybe Barca gonna leads with +2?

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the similarity of points between Barcelona and Real Madrid even more interesting for us to follow in La Liga
both have 40 points in 19 match , I am as eternal fan of Real Madrid still believe they will drop barcelona in position one
because Zinedine Zidane has a good strategy in every game so that this season Real Madrid as La Liga champions , I am sure of it

I like the competition in this year's La Liga and it seems that it's going to go to the wire this time around. Zidane has done a great job rebuilding this team once again since he came back to the team. Because things went to hell when he departed the team due to some issue with Florentino Perez when it came to player signings.

I feel that this competition exists because real and barca didn't improve their teams but they become both worse.
Especially Real after all those signings is sad to see them having a mediocre performance.

It's like missing a part of a team to be that old Real / Barca,
I'm fascinated by how much Livepool has progressed, while Real I'm sorry for being a fan, but this doesn't look like it before, except that a lot of money was spent and no one stood out, it's similar to Barca, but they kept it of his Hero, while Real lost him forever ... Cry

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Quote from: yoseph on January 15, 2020, 10:04:25 AM

Quote from: udidrone on January 15, 2020, 06:46:29 AM

the similarity of points between Barcelona and Real Madrid even more interesting for us to follow in La Liga
both have 40 points in 19 match , I am as eternal fan of Real Madrid still believe they will drop barcelona in position one
because Zinedine Zidane has a good strategy in every game so that this season Real Madrid as La Liga champions , I am sure of it

I like the competition in this year's La Liga and it seems that it's going to go to the wire this time around. Zidane has done a great job rebuilding this team once again since he came back to the team. Because things went to hell when he departed the team due to some issue with Florentino Perez when it came to player signings.

I feel that this competition exists because real and barca didn't improve their teams but they become both worse.
Especially Real after all those signings is sad to see them having a mediocre performance.

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Quote from: yoseph on January 15, 2020, 10:04:25 AM

Quote from: udidrone on January 15, 2020, 06:46:29 AM

the similarity of points between Barcelona and Real Madrid even more interesting for us to follow in La Liga
both have 40 points in 19 match , I am as eternal fan of Real Madrid still believe they will drop barcelona in position one
because Zinedine Zidane has a good strategy in every game so that this season Real Madrid as La Liga champions , I am sure of it

I like the competition in this year's La Liga and it seems that it's going to go to the wire this time around. Zidane has done a great job rebuilding this team once again since he came back to the team. Because things went to hell when he departed the team due to some issue with Florentino Perez when it came to player signings.

We are still in the middle of the season and too fast to predict especially as fans of course choose their respective teams
When it comes to opportunities, I'm actually more confident Barcelona won but this isn't easy because the competition is very tight
it would be better to wait for the El Clasico match, usually if one wins this match then it becomes a champion.

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Quote from: udidrone on January 15, 2020, 06:46:29 AM

the similarity of points between Barcelona and Real Madrid even more interesting for us to follow in La Liga
both have 40 points in 19 match , I am as eternal fan of Real Madrid still believe they will drop barcelona in position one
because Zinedine Zidane has a good strategy in every game so that this season Real Madrid as La Liga champions , I am sure of it

I like the competition in this year's La Liga and it seems that it's going to go to the wire this time around. Zidane has done a great job rebuilding this team once again since he came back to the team. Because things went to hell when he departed the team due to some issue with Florentino Perez when it came to player signings.

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Quote from: skarais on January 14, 2020, 12:35:38 PM

Actually Valverde isnt too bad to continue to be a coach at Barcelona. It is just that Barcelona might not let them again fail to get the UCL title this season. Their fear is very clear because two years in a row they clearly failed to get the most out of the championship.

I think Barcelona really want to win the UCL and Laliga titles this season and even they are targeting threeble winner for one full season. But as a fan, I have few doubts about their new coach. Not something fantastic, but lets we see, hopefully the club has shown the right coach for their players.

Seriously, I didn't even know who the new Barcelona coach was before. I mean that I have never read news about him. Recently I tried to find out his background and which club he had coached. It turns out that in terms of achievement he is still below Valverde. Maybe his game philosophy fits into the culture of Barcelona

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the similarity of points between Barcelona and Real Madrid even more interesting for us to follow in La Liga
both have 40 points in 19 match , I am as eternal fan of Real Madrid still believe they will drop barcelona in position one
because Zinedine Zidane has a good strategy in every game so that this season Real Madrid as La Liga champions , I am sure of it

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Quote from: andycarrol on January 14, 2020, 02:17:57 AM

there is a possibility he became a coach of Barcelona just because of 1 win at Camp Nou

If I remember correctly, Valverde was also the coach of Atletic Bilbao when they defeated Barcelona in the Spanish super cup, although I'm not sure if this could have has an effect on his appointment. In his defense has was prominent for grooming young talents and with the la Masia losing a couple of talents, we needed a coach who would integrate the youth team into the main team.
He was a gamble which didn't stick, Setién is also a gamble. His other qualities would be his football policy similar to that of Barcelona.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on January 14, 2020, 09:41:30 PM

Barcelona officially dismissed the coach Valverde, the position of Valverde was replaced by Quiquie Setien, hopefully with the new coach can bring Barcelona back to play its old game because it is very much awaited by its fans.
This week Barcelona will face Granada with its new coach and we will see how the match will be in the style of a new coach.

Don't expect some big changes in such short time.
After all, Valverde had good results and Barcelona is still leading club in La Liga but obviously good results are not enough when you lead club as Barcelona 😁
New coach don't have experience with such big clubs like Barcelona and I'm not sure if he will have enough authority.
Main problem with Barcelona is that usually 2 or 3 players never play in defense and don't care about this aspect of the match.
When Barcelona play with weaker clubs it's no so big problem but in CL last 2 seasons, in the matches with Roma and Liverpool we could see all the problems Barcelona have.
Also they depend to much on Messi.
I don't think that new coach can solve this problems or change anything.

It's a fresh air for vidal, he might would given a chance to perform replacing rakitic... under the new coach .

There's a big risk when he changing 50% of the current Barcelona winning team, changing the way team playing is the key not the players.
Valverde out is the thing that Barcelona fans waiting for long , people get tired of his playing style.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on January 14, 2020, 09:41:30 PM

Barcelona officially dismissed the coach Valverde, the position of Valverde was replaced by Quiquie Setien, hopefully with the new coach can bring Barcelona back to play its old game because it is very much awaited by its fans.
This week Barcelona will face Granada with its new coach and we will see how the match will be in the style of a new coach.

First the new coach has to know the ambient,the players and their way of doing things.He needs at least 1-2 months of time before he can show us his changes applied to Barcelona way of playing.Also Barcelona stick to their thinking and didn’t choose Pochetino as their manager.

It really needs a new adaptation to get to know the Barcelona players what game they should want and that must be followed because Barcelona players always have their own way it's just that in the affairs of a coach's business.
Maybe Pochetino was not chosen because that was not their criterion, so they chose the others according to those who deserved to be manager of Barcelona

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Quote from: kceekcee on January 14, 2020, 03:09:59 PM

Valverde was bullied out of barcelona, perhaps because he doesnt talk much.
His made poor decisions like any other coach, but he has done a fantastic job.

Bullied you say, how was he, he was hired by his employees and they can terminate his appointment as long as all the agreements are met. If he talks much or not, it doesn't affect his job, as long as he's doing his job well, he could be even dumb and Barcelona would not care.

Valverde did not do a fantastic job imo, it is not even about his decision making, he just wasn't the perfect coach for this team, he didn't have their philosophy, Barcelona needed to rediscover themselves and that's why valverde was relieved of his duty as coach.

its true, Valverde did not do a fantastic therefore he is the first coach fired by Barcelona in 17 years. He was not bad statistically when he coached Barcelona but he did a lot of failures in important matches, such as the biggest 4-0 defeat by Liverpool, then failed to win the Copa del rey and lastly the peak so he was fired is failed in the Spanish Super Cup.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on January 14, 2020, 09:41:30 PM

Barcelona officially dismissed the coach Valverde, the position of Valverde was replaced by Quiquie Setien, hopefully with the new coach can bring Barcelona back to play its old game because it is very much awaited by its fans.
This week Barcelona will face Granada with its new coach and we will see how the match will be in the style of a new coach.

First the new coach has to know the ambient,the players and their way of doing things.He needs at least 1-2 months of time before he can show us his changes applied to Barcelona way of playing.Also Barcelona stick to their thinking and didn’t choose Pochetino as their manager.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on January 14, 2020, 09:41:30 PM

Barcelona officially dismissed the coach Valverde, the position of Valverde was replaced by Quiquie Setien, hopefully with the new coach can bring Barcelona back to play its old game because it is very much awaited by its fans.
This week Barcelona will face Granada with its new coach and we will see how the match will be in the style of a new coach.

Don't expect some big changes in such short time.
After all, Valverde had good results and Barcelona is still leading club in La Liga but obviously good results are not enough when you lead club as Barcelona 😁
New coach don't have experience with such big clubs like Barcelona and I'm not sure if he will have enough authority.
Main problem with Barcelona is that usually 2 or 3 players never play in defense and don't care about this aspect of the match.
When Barcelona play with weaker clubs it's no so big problem but in CL last 2 seasons, in the matches with Roma and Liverpool we could see all the problems Barcelona have.
Also they depend to much on Messi.
I don't think that new coach can solve this problems or change anything.

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Barcelona officially dismissed the coach Valverde, the position of Valverde was replaced by Quiquie Setien, hopefully with the new coach can bring Barcelona back to play its old game because it is very much awaited by its fans.
This week Barcelona will face Granada with its new coach and we will see how the match will be in the style of a new coach.

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With Valverde getting sacked, i thought back was going to hire a world class Coach but they instead when for the less known former Real Betis man. I am just waiting to see how he will perform especially in the Champion's league.

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Quote from: kceekcee on January 14, 2020, 03:09:59 PM

Valverde was bullied out of barcelona, perhaps because he doesnt talk much.
His made poor decisions like any other coach, but he has done a fantastic job.

Bullied you say, how was he, he was hired by his employees and they can terminate his appointment as long as all the agreements are met. If he talks much or not, it doesn't affect his job, as long as he's doing his job well, he could be even dumb and Barcelona would not care.

Valverde did not do a fantastic job imo, it is not even about his decision making, he just wasn't the perfect coach for this team, he didn't have their philosophy, Barcelona needed to rediscover themselves and that's why valverde was relieved of his duty as coach.

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