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Topic: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) - page 75. (Read 1079974 times)

legendary
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The witchhunt is premature.  I don't care how mad you are, I don't care why you're mad.  Harassing people at this point WILL NOT END WELL FOR ANYONE.

Continue to collect all information, but calm the fuck down.

People taking $700K from public don't have right to hide themselves.
legendary
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Guys. Just my two cents.

We need to not act like an angry mob. << This is the most important thing.

I think we can all agree that the first thing Labcoin__ or whoever on the Q&A should of done was verify who they are. Now, a few people on this forum are saying that this is not a scam, (I disagree). But that is perfectly fine if this is not a scam, we still have a right to know who is leading this project. You don't raise these kinds of funds, lie about who you are, break promises for 2 months and then get away clean. The real world doesn't work like that and I don't think the Bitcoin companies should work like that. I'm not saying we should become some type of vigilantes. BTCT.co closes down in 5 days, and in 5 days all Labcoin has to say is they lost the asset list and it is all over. Between now and then, the person who is running this company needs to understand that when push comes to shove some of the more aggressive people on this forum are going to take matters into their own hands. (I don't think you guys should haunt these people btw).

The person who runs the Labcoin company and account, If you are Alessia or Fabrizio Tatti or Alberto or whoever, if you are one of these people. Please show some verification before their life is ruined. Trust me, sooner or later you will be found out. Before things escalate any further you should resolve this situation and either lead the company effectively or refund ALL shares with every single satoshi that you have left from the IPO along with the chips (even if they are worthless).
+1
sr. member
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in 5 days all Labcoin has to say is they lost the asset list and it is all over
Why wouldn't Burnside keep a copy of the asset list? At the very least until October 31st, when btc-tc actually closes (as oppose to stops secondary trading).

Burnside does keep an updated asset list. This thread has lost its mind.


I would expect burnside to keep an update list. I still expect this company to be nonexistent in roughly 5 days. If not on the 7th, then right after the 31st.
hero member
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https://karatcoin.co
in 5 days all Labcoin has to say is they lost the asset list and it is all over
Why wouldn't Burnside keep a copy of the asset list? At the very least until October 31st, when btc-tc actually closes (as oppose to stops secondary trading).

Burnside does keep an updated asset list. This thread has lost its mind.

sr. member
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If this was a ship the rats would have left already.
hero member
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in 5 days all Labcoin has to say is they lost the asset list and it is all over
Why wouldn't Burnside keep a copy of the asset list? At the very least until October 31st, when btc-tc actually closes (as oppose to stops secondary trading).
sr. member
Activity: 378
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Guys. Just my two cents.

We need to not act like an angry mob. << This is the most important thing.

I think we can all agree that the first thing Labcoin__ or whoever on the Q&A should of done was verify who they are. Now, a few people on this forum are saying that this is not a scam, (I disagree). But that is perfectly fine if this is not a scam, we still have a right to know who is leading this project. You don't raise these kinds of funds, lie about who you are, break promises for 2 months and then get away clean. The real world doesn't work like that and I don't think the Bitcoin companies should work like that. I'm not saying we should become some type of vigilantes. BTCT.co closes down in 5 days, and in 5 days all Labcoin has to say is they lost the asset list and it is all over. Between now and then, the person who is running this company needs to understand that when push comes to shove some of the more aggressive people on this forum are going to take matters into their own hands. (I don't think you guys should haunt these people btw).

The person who runs the Labcoin company and account, If you are Alessia or Fabrizio Tatti or Alberto or whoever, if you are one of these people. Please show some verification before their life is ruined. Trust me, sooner or later you will be found out. Before things escalate any further you should resolve this situation and either lead the company effectively or refund ALL shares with every single satoshi that you have left from the IPO along with the chips (even if they are worthless).
legendary
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It doesn't make any sense to me for Alessia to deny knowledge of Labcoin. She was listed as the CTO to my knowledge, at least at the beginning. I can also show that she had access to the [email protected] email address.

'Alessia' is the one paying TheSeven. TheSeven has never heard of 'sam'. For 'Alessia' to say they have not heard of labcoin is once again, another lie. All evidence of misappropriated funds withdrawn from Burnsides exchange are available to publicly explore on blockchain

You boys really need to calm down. Its been evidenced in a number of ways that this isn't a scam and that these people are basically having issues with the chips that weren't previously anticipated. So are a lot of asic mining companies. Harassing them online and acting like a virtual pitchfork mob isn't going to drive your stock price up. Why not consider actually offering some help or knowledge and see if they respond better than threats to have them arrested and stuck up the ass with a pike.

One day, you will have to wake up and smell the Coffee. piece upon piece of evidence stacking up demonstrates this fraud. This is a clear breach of fiduciary duty. Hong-Kong ICAC have been notified re: falsified details which have been presented in company incorporation docs and unauthorised transfer of company shares to 3rd party

I hope to see swiftly these criminals brought to justice

Did you report them? how can we help?

Did Thymos ever confirm the IP address?

He has a non intervention policy it seems
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They're all probably scared.. all of the sudden dozens of people stalking you, on email, phone, facebook, calling your employer, going after your sister, your friends... it must be a tough situation.

Especially if it turns out that the whole thing is legit.

Yeah, I don't think it's right to be contacting people on fb, linkedin, etc or their family/friends/job. I know everyone here is freaking out, but there's a limit.

For the record, I also think a line has been crossed here.  I'm not against contacting people to verify their involvement if their names have been openly stated in the official documents, but the aggressive tone with people who are not mentioned directly is too much.

Also, contacting someone's employer is far, far over the line.  There is no excuse for it.  It should stop.

 Grin ahh screw them, I say they deserve every bit of it. We need to get government officials involved maybe Interpol  Cool

You people seem like an angry, pitch-fork wielding mob. There's no direct evidence that the Tattis are still involved, and in fact there's no direct evidence that it's a scam at this point - just a lack of evidence that it isn't. Harassing people, or calling the police or employers or whatever is kind of ridiculous at this point. It's not going to make your money suddenly reappear.

Just be patient and wait for actual evidence, one way or another.

I'm pretty confident by this weekend we will have a lot more info/evidence by thus weekend.  It seems like everyone is out scouring the internet looking for clues and info.
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[11:05:08 PM] TheSeven: an italian friend of mine, who was a potential investor, said that he/she used the male form of some language constructs, even though the name is clearly female
[11:05:32 PM] TheSeven: we suspected that it was in fact fabrizio chatting on alessia's account

That "italian friend" it's me.
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Did Thymos ever confirm the IP address?
hero member
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You boys really need to calm down. Its been evidenced in a number of ways that this isn't a scam and that these people are basically having issues with the chips that weren't previously anticipated. So are a lot of asic mining companies. Harassing them online and acting like a virtual pitchfork mob isn't going to drive your stock price up. Why not consider actually offering some help or knowledge and see if they respond better than threats to have them arrested and stuck up the ass with a pike.

I agree, all of the Accusations ect. are helping no one, in fact this may cause a closure of Labcoin. If you think its a scam don't buy, its that simple.
You only have yourself to blame if you have lost money on this
Just a gentle reminder, it will be closed in 5 days. After then, no one could buy or sell their shares any more. Those still want to do flipping please be careful to not be the last one holding the shares.

yeah a few more days the exchange closes, the sell off is going to be huge lol

i don't think there's much to the bottom. doubt that people will be selling for 0 what's the point
sr. member
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You boys really need to calm down. Its been evidenced in a number of ways that this isn't a scam and that these people are basically having issues with the chips that weren't previously anticipated. So are a lot of asic mining companies. Harassing them online and acting like a virtual pitchfork mob isn't going to drive your stock price up. Why not consider actually offering some help or knowledge and see if they respond better than threats to have them arrested and stuck up the ass with a pike.

I agree, all of the Accusations ect. are helping no one, in fact this may cause a closure of Labcoin. If you think its a scam don't buy, its that simple.
You only have yourself to blame if you have lost money on this
Just a gentle reminder, it will be closed in 5 days. After then, no one could buy or sell their shares any more. Those still want to do flipping please be careful to not be the last one holding the shares.

yeah a few more days the exchange closes, the sell off is going to be huge lol
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
You boys really need to calm down. Its been evidenced in a number of ways that this isn't a scam and that these people are basically having issues with the chips that weren't previously anticipated. So are a lot of asic mining companies. Harassing them online and acting like a virtual pitchfork mob isn't going to drive your stock price up. Why not consider actually offering some help or knowledge and see if they respond better than threats to have them arrested and stuck up the ass with a pike.

I agree, all of the Accusations ect. are helping no one, in fact this may cause a closure of Labcoin. If you think its a scam don't buy, its that simple.
You only have yourself to blame if you have lost money on this
Just a gentle reminder, it will be closed in 5 days. After then, no one could buy or sell their shares any more. Those still want to do flipping please be careful to not be the last one holding the shares.
full member
Activity: 160
Merit: 100
You boys really need to calm down. Its been evidenced in a number of ways that this isn't a scam and that these people are basically having issues with the chips that weren't previously anticipated. So are a lot of asic mining companies. Harassing them online and acting like a virtual pitchfork mob isn't going to drive your stock price up. Why not consider actually offering some help or knowledge and see if they respond better than threats to have them arrested and stuck up the ass with a pike.

I agree, all of the Accusations ect. are helping no one, in fact this may cause a closure of Labcoin. If you think its a scam don't buy, its that simple.
You only have yourself to blame if you have lost money on this
legendary
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You boys really need to calm down. Its been evidenced in a number of ways that this isn't a scam and that these people are basically having issues with the chips that weren't previously anticipated.

I would love to see that evidence.
newbie
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You boys really need to calm down. Its been evidenced in a number of ways that this isn't a scam and that these people are basically having issues with the chips that weren't previously anticipated. So are a lot of asic mining companies. Harassing them online and acting like a virtual pitchfork mob isn't going to drive your stock price up. Why not consider actually offering some help or knowledge and see if they respond better than threats to have them arrested and stuck up the ass with a pike.
legendary
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I can also show that she had access to the [email protected] email address.

Then please do so. Smiley

Ah, dex, always calling me out. I don't blame you  Smiley

Here you are:

Any chance of posting the Internet header of that email?

Looking at that email, she uses a small "i" as well as Fabrizio and Sam. Could be a coincidence.

I wonder if she would deny writing that email, and knowledge of any Avalons.


Here's the header with my detail stripped out. What exactly are you looking for, if you don't mind me asking?

https://i.imgur.com/qr3b5mC.png

I was looking for the client IP, to find the geolocation but it seems that MX record for labcoin.com is pointing to Google mail servers, meaning they use Google mail services for labcoin.com email domain.



The Avalon was mailed from Carbonia, Italy. I don't have any qualms about revealing that since it's her public location on her facebook page.
sr. member
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I can also show that she had access to the [email protected] email address.

Then please do so. Smiley

Ah, dex, always calling me out. I don't blame you  Smiley

Here you are:

Any chance of posting the Internet header of that email?

Looking at that email, she uses a small "i" as well as Fabrizio and Sam. Could be a coincidence.

I wonder if she would deny writing that email, and knowledge of any Avalons.


Here's the header with my detail stripped out. What exactly are you looking for, if you don't mind me asking?

https://i.imgur.com/qr3b5mC.png

I was looking for the client IP, to find the geolocation but it seems that MX record for labcoin.com is pointing to Google mail servers, meaning they use Google mail services for labcoin.com email domain.

sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
They're all probably scared.. all of the sudden dozens of people stalking you, on email, phone, facebook, calling your employer, going after your sister, your friends... it must be a tough situation.

Especially if it turns out that the whole thing is legit.

Yeah, I don't think it's right to be contacting people on fb, linkedin, etc or their family/friends/job. I know everyone here is freaking out, but there's a limit.

For the record, I also think a line has been crossed here.  I'm not against contacting people to verify their involvement if their names have been openly stated in the official documents, but the aggressive tone with people who are not mentioned directly is too much.

Also, contacting someone's employer is far, far over the line.  There is no excuse for it.  It should stop.

 Grin ahh screw them, I say they deserve every bit of it. We need to get government officials involved maybe Interpol  Cool

You people seem like an angry, pitch-fork wielding mob. There's no direct evidence that the Tattis are still involved, and in fact there's no direct evidence that it's a scam at this point - just a lack of evidence that it isn't. Harassing people, or calling the police or employers or whatever is kind of ridiculous at this point. It's not going to make your money suddenly reappear.

Just be patient and wait for actual evidence, one way or another.

How much longer are you willing to wait?

It has been 2 months since the IPO and there have not provided any tangible evidence, just promises that they keep braking. There hasn't been a single promise they didn't break.

Once everyone started screaming about this being a scam, they had 24 hours to prepare for Q&A, and still provided no evidence.

Even if it's not a scam, the 130nm chips are not going to work properly and the 65nm chips are not going to happen anytime soon.

Quote
[15:44] <[7]> does that 500th/s plan involve 65nm chips?
[15:44] <[7]> this weird TSMC document suggests they're planning to do 65nm in Q1 2014
...
[15:48] <[7]> I'm confident that the interface circuitry for 65nm will be finalized this year, but I have no idea who's even going to implement the hashing core.
[15:48] <[7]> if they want me to do that, it would take months, and I wouldn't be very confident that it's going to actually work well
[15:48] <[7]> it's a complete redesign from scratch. at least if their plans haven't changed.


While searching for theSeven's quote I found this which I didn't pay notice to earlier, but I believe it has become more relevant now:

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[11:05:08 PM] TheSeven: an italian friend of mine, who was a potential investor, said that he/she used the male form of some language constructs, even though the name is clearly female
[11:05:32 PM] TheSeven: we suspected that it was in fact fabrizio chatting on alessia's account

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