Topic: Las Vegas Casinos are open - end of the Pandemic era. - page 37. (Read 4611 times)

That is my question too because if they don't do that, I think the possibility to have a hidden carrier will wide open since many people will come to that place at once. Even if they do a fast checker before they go inside that place, that doesn't guarantee for infected people can be found or not because the carrier doesn't have any sign if they are infected or not.


It is a serious matter in that city because it's related to many people. Before they open the casino, they really need to test every people, no matter if they already have been checked by the local hospital or not because the virus can attack any people, whether they wear masked or not. I hope the local government can handle this before anything bad happens.

We already know that there is still an issue emerging in the United States. With the recent protests and mass gatherings, the COVID cases jumps high again, they were at war with two enemies, their actions and the pandemic. Meanwhile, Las Vegas casinos will open? Sooner or later they will see that those actions that they think can have a new normal with highest precautions they can implement would be enough. I'd love to go there for casinos and fun, but not on the midst of a worldwide pandemic.

overall, it's just stupid.

Ain't you being too melodramatic?
This is about gamblers.
Why are you going too far to the extent of comparing it to people at home?
These are people who are looking for entertainment and not for their jobs.
Lives do matter first and not taking out the boredom in their life.

Now war?
C'mon dude.
Again with the wrong comparison.
A gambler as a war soldier?  
Out in nature? Do you really think it is the right time for that?
Instead of helping the government to seize the virus by staying at home, you will just end up being a patient or the one who will pass it to someone else.

Don't even think some of us are not affected by this. We all are.
Consider: USA is at the top of confirmed Covid-19 infected cases. Las Vegas is part of USA.
If it is Vietnam then I won't disagree.

I'm not sure if Las Vegas has done mass testing already, if not the scenario you just laid out is possible. I think they should have done mass testing before reopening the casinos.


It could be really implemented by casino themselves. And everyone should be responsible here. We don't want to hear an outbreak, the federal government really did a big risk here by opening up as early as June without any vaccine for the public.

I hope people who come to that place is not infected because if they found one infected person, that will be a dramatic moment which can make people panic, and they will go to the hospital to do the rapid test. That is very risky at this moment because the virus can still infected people who are in the casino and they don't know if they don't test their health.

I hope they can have responsibility for what they do, and if they know they are infected, they need to isolate themselves and don't make body contact with other people until they can be healthy again. I hope that the place will apply some protocol that can protect people who come to their place, so there is no worry for them to play gambling.

I agree with you 100% and think that our government stepped up pretty quick and did an admirable job in handling what could have been the end of everything, and it is still there as a threat.  I was simply putting some warning flags up, i guess is the best way to put it

You have the right to reject the policies adopted by the government in the case of a pandemic but you must recognize that this virus is a real threat to everyone.

The protocol applied by the government to citizens is the governments efforts to reduce the incidence of broader infections. We must be aware of the risks posed by viruses, this is a frightening threat. There is no need for others to say that this virus is life threatening but the fact that the virus is a pandemic that has increased mortality rates in recent months.

Sometimes I also feel selfish about the rules imposed by the government, not immediately acceptable because the consequences are too small. But on the basis of prevention, I must understand that prevention is better than cure.

Maybe you got a point there but for me, as long as there are lives at risk when considering a choice, lives should be prioritized. It is shocking really, to know that some casinos in Vegas have been opened despite the fact that the number of cases is still increasing. Perhaps, they chose to sustain the economy for good in order to provide a good living for the country or for the people as it is their main source of economic growth. I really hope they tripled their health and security measures.

IMO, they can implement their gambling games online which is better, low electricity cost for them, no contact, and no virus transmission.

The pressure from the casino owners might be too much for the mayor of Las Vegas hehehe. However, for a populated place, the cases of the coronavirus in Nevada is lower than the others. It might be easier to control the virus with proper social distancing rules and protocols.

They should copy what New Zealand is doing, I reckon. There were no strict quarantine rules imposed, only proper guidelines were followed.

Ok, admittedly I have not read the entire post, but I think that with the virus and businesses there is a forked set of issues, especially in the US. 

First, we have to be careful what we let the government say we can and cannot do.   I agree that the virus is a very real issue, but we have to be very careful about letting the government force businesses to close down, as the issue of civil rights diminishes every time we let them step in and make changes.  Sometimes this is intentional manipulation by the government, using fear to gain more control and sometimes it is a real issue, obviously the virus is a real issue, although the government may also be using it to get more control. 

Another point, the resources that are being pulled from to help pay these small businesses and larger ones is not infinite, although there is a load of government money stored.  We do have to be careful how much is paid out, between stimulus checks and other help, we might start to give the government a reason to cut funding in other places, whether needed or just as an excuse.

Necessary business versus entertainment.  No one is going to say that we cannot live without casinos, whether temporary or long-term, we definitely cannot afford to lose businesses such as doctor offices and grocery stores.  However, where is the line in the middle between the businesses we cannot live without and those we can, and who is going to be the judge on that.  Do we create a government committee, do we get s say, where is the line drawn and by whom? Some might say that a casino is not needed, but a city like Las Vegas surely has their financial foundation built on those businesses, and it does not good to close the casinos and keep the Walmarts in Vegas open, if nobody has income to spend there.

I may sound very anti-government, I am not really.  However, I think that the government is like a potentially dangerous animal being kept.  It can be loving and great, but if given too much of a chance, it can also become dangerous quickly if allowed to. 

One post I saw in this thread that cracked me up was the reply that we should use only infected workers in the casinos.  That is an idea, of sorts, and it has some technical merit and logical merit, but it is yet another gateway to a whole new set of living parameters.  It is one of those things that starts there and ends with a divided country, with infected zones and non-infected zones. 

I personally think that the best bet is to apply a rules set to all businesses that use internal seating, like casinos and restaurants and such, let them be open, providing that every other "table" or "seat" be shut down, creating a half-capacity seating arrangement, with space in between.  Couple this with intense food and beverage controls, and we might be OK.  One last thing, funniest thing I have seen yet, our convenience stores are using plastics shields at the register, a six foot rules in line and a few other things, but, right there at the end of checkout is a plastic, lidded box of beef sticks, where anyone and everyone just reaches in and grabs one, they are not wrapped or anything, so you and the last guy and sharing some personal germs and whatever, but, remember, after grabbing one to remain six feet from other customers in line.

Nothing here is meant to offend, it is all just personal observation, and definitely has the potential to be wrong and I will be the first to admit it.

You're not in the right mind if you think that is a solution. Do you know the word MOCK?

If we wake up one day and all of them are walking zombies. then the whole world wouldn't mind if the Chinese will just bomb US after all they're like walking dead. And all because the blacks rally together and the vegas open its casino despite the coronavirus wiping them out.

those gamblers that will play are taking their own risk and they know possible consequences. So I guess, it really depends on the individual if he wants to take the risk of being infected or not. But businesses are easing now to survive this economic crisis. We can't blame them as this is like a worldwide plight that everyone needs to face and make a move to survive in this pandemic. Gamblers know what they are doing, so whatever happens they should know what is at risk here.

So herd immunity is the hidden answer to all asked questions. With the mentioned weird solution everyone will accept the willingness to be infected due to the lack of self-control and greediness to make money with luck. The online casinos are not as same as the physical casino as discussed many times, the fulfilled entertainment is totally different for the gambling-addicted ordinary people.

^ There is no problem if they will follow the new normal protocol and it should 50% of the previous clients get in are allowed. While there is no vaccine yet we can avoid the virus that did not keep spread through social distancing implementation. We understand that we need to overcome the economic crisis that we recently facing right now. I know that this sounds stupid but we need to fight the virus and at the same time fighting the possible recession may occur if we still waiting for the vaccine will release or found. Nevertheless, Las Vegas Casinos should implement precautionary measures regarding this matter.

I have been getting free room offers for 2 or 3 days depending on the property in LV for about a week now. I have been a very low level gambler out there for years now. Go once a year or so but the strip properties have put in some really horrendous rules for BJ and pay tables for VP that I have really cut back. There are places that are few hour drive from me that give better odds. So, with that being said how many people are showing up for the cheap / free rooms?

For me it's not worth the risk, but if you can't afford full price the trip having a cheaper room and the flight / drive is cheap then some people might go YMMV on that opinion.

Stay safe.

-Dave

What a dumb idea and for sure government wont really make such step. So you do pertain into having a place that do only allows positive case patients? and you do think that it would be safe
for them to go out after they do play? they are just worsening the situation even more.Hence, not all positive patients wont able to play and its just too dumb that you do prioritize your gambling
addiction rather than prioritizing your own health first since you do know that you get infected.I doubt that you cant even stand once you do have this virus.,
Unless if your asymptomatic then you can actually play but in most cases you would surely be lying on bed.

Maybe they do have a different solution to this too.

Why not just let the people with covid cases work in the casinos and any businesses and then those who are going to gamble are also covid positive. They way they don't have to worry after all everyone in the casino are covid positive already.  A different approach to a strange situation.

Someone out there should remind them that there is an online Casino. That they don't even have to travel.

Hopefully, I can explain that to you

To begin with, it doesn't have anything to do with extreme, cut-throat capitalism (or any ~ism, for that matter). Basically, it's a matter of pure stats. The number of confirmed cases in the States seems to be around 2M people at the moment. Given that most healthy individuals are likely to pull through even without knowing that they had gotten the coronavirus (no symptoms), it is not unreasonable to assume that 1) the quarantine has been mostly useless anyway, and 2) the virus has essentially run its course. There'll be second waves, third waves, etc, but they will become less and less severe as more and more people recover and develop immunity. Put simply, there are only so many people to get the disease

This is good news for some gamblers and casino workers(probably) but bad news for medical staffs since it will surely further increase the infected people even with safety measured implemented which I doubt tourists will fully follow. also knowing that the flight are already full in the midst of this pandemic there are still a lot of people(mostly privilege, spoiled and ignorant) are not taking this crisis seriously.

I don't get it, what happened with USA? I mean the virus is still going on, people are still dying, and yes the numbers could be looking better but they had over 100 thousand people dead. That is all the wars combined in the past 100 or so years for them and they still didn't care and now Las Vegas opens and more importantly there are riots everywhere in the country and people are basically in a civil war type of situation where they are pretty close to each other.

I don't get it, why would they want to have something like this when the consequences is tens of thousands of death? I get it there is business to be made at Vegas and without starting back open eventually, they will have a failing economy that will hurt both business owners but also workers too, but starting back up so soon, just because of money reasons, in face of death? That sounds a bit too extreme capitalist.