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Quote from: Sadlife on June 15, 2020, 06:55:49 AM

My expectation is that it will cause a riot due to many gamblers being unable to be accommodated and play casino games.

Don't be so exaggerated mate,because Las Vegas Gambler are mostly educated and will Not do such wrong actions.

and Besides why would they need to have riot when there are only few people that has money to spend now because therea re many people that losses their job.

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I mean they could just build an online gambling platform rather than reopening. With millions of people already infected this would only worsen the situation.

Gambler will never be contented in online gambling mate,because if that is the case then why need to re open the live casinos when those Online gambling is available all this time.

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Quote from: pilosopotasyo on June 16, 2020, 06:12:04 AM

the title is quite misleading we are still in a pandemic in fact the number of infected is rising now at over 8 million while I am writing this and it will still increase because some countries are not following protocols like the USA and there are some countries where the infection is on the rise.

That's true, because even in the Philippines the number of infected are still increasing day by day. We should not forget that the virus will not stop if people are keep on going outside. And disadvantage of that economic growth decrease due to unstoppable infected of the virus.

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Quote from: spike420211 on June 16, 2020, 05:58:07 AM

If quarantine measures have not been introduced in your country, then I can assume that the declared statistics can be fabricated to one degree or another.
Even Sweden, which did not enter quarantine, admitted that this was a mistake, and moved to one of the first places in terms of mortality in Europe.
But Sweden is not one of those countries that will hide data, but many others who have not entered quarantine practice this.

There are two doctors in my family. They are now working on the frontline of the fight against the virus. One of them even had a coronavirus and fortunately recovered. In their medical institutions, death statistics are not fabricated.
That's why I draw these conclusions about statistics across the country. Time will tell who was right and how the losses in the economy will affect countries and their citizens. However, I firmly believe that people have the right to decide whether to stay at home or not.

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the title is quite misleading we are still in a pandemic in fact the number of infected is rising now at over 8 million while I am writing this and it will still increase because some countries are not following protocols like the USA and there are some countries where the infection is on the rise.

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Quote from: FontSeli on June 15, 2020, 04:52:54 PM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on June 06, 2020, 05:10:55 AM

I’m UK based but I’m glad, we need to start getting back to normal soon. This pandemic has claimed lives but really it’s a tiny, tiny % of the numbers that get infected. We can’t hide away at home forever, economies are collapsing, unemployment numbers are increasing. We need to get back to some kind of normality.

There was no quarantine in my country. I recently looked at the death statistics. The death rate was a couple of percent higher than from the flu.
Of course, lost lives can't be returned. And each of us should take care of ourselves and our families.
However, it is worth remembering that each person is responsible for himself. And if someone wants to fly to Las Vegas and try their luck twice (once in a casino, the other time exposing themselves to the risk of infection), then they have the right to do it.

If quarantine measures have not been introduced in your country, then I can assume that the declared statistics can be fabricated to one degree or another.
Even Sweden, which did not enter quarantine, admitted that this was a mistake, and moved to one of the first places in terms of mortality in Europe.
But Sweden is not one of those countries that will hide data, but many others who have not entered quarantine practice this.

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Quote from: maydna on June 15, 2020, 07:43:39 PM

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Quote from: angrybirdy on June 15, 2020, 10:23:00 AM

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I think the government already think about that, and we know that the gambling industries give a contribution to the government in a tax. The government think that reopen the casinos will give them the money which will add more revenue in this pandemic so they can use the money for another reason to help the people.

Indeed, they of course think of this thing multiple times before ending on such decision. I am no longer against nor agree with the opening of casinos to be honest, because as the situation getting worse the government are even more pushed to open more establishments (despite of being non essential) to get resources. It's just a matter of risking something to get something. Their government prioritized to get more funds in exchange of having the higher risk of infections, ad for me that makes sense and understandable.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on June 15, 2020, 06:57:18 PM

Quote from: angrybirdy on June 15, 2020, 10:23:00 AM

It still too soon for them to open casinos. Hopefully, they won't regret their actions like in our country, the number of covid-19 patients are still increasing because of openning of most establishments like malls, etc.

Agree. I also think that the government decides too early to reopen the casinos. By many people come to the casinos, there is a big chance for the next big spread of Covid-19 among them. I doubt why the government didn't think about the possible next surge of people infected by Covid-19. If the reason is about the request from the casinos' owners, it really hurts the general society. Why the government more cares to the owners than the users or society? It is a big question.

I think the government already think about that, and we know that the gambling industries give a contribution to the government in a tax. The government think that reopen the casinos will give them the money which will add more revenue in this pandemic so they can use the money for another reason to help the people. But we don't know what is their reason because I don't think that they will transparent to the public, and if the government doesn't care their citizen, that will trigger the demonstration that we already saw in a few days or weeks ago.

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Quote from: angrybirdy on June 15, 2020, 10:23:00 AM

It still too soon for them to open casinos. Hopefully, they won't regret their actions like in our country, the number of covid-19 patients are still increasing because of openning of most establishments like malls, etc. Instead of stopping it to spread, most people continue their different activities and they don't think of helping each other in this kind of situation.

I don't think that they will reverse their decisions regarding reopening of casinos. Before opening it, I believe that they know how to control it already so they have a bit of confidence about it but I just hope that the worse will not happen to them (probably the second wave of the virus).

In US, there are some places where people are just going outside like it is nothing. The only difference is that all of them have mask but the activities outside their houses are just like the same when there is no virus at all. Some are going to beaches, some are going outside. I'm not against them but at least they must care about themselves though.

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Quote from: angrybirdy on June 15, 2020, 10:23:00 AM

It still too soon for them to open casinos. Hopefully, they won't regret their actions like in our country, the number of covid-19 patients are still increasing because of openning of most establishments like malls, etc.

Agree. I also think that the government decides too early to reopen the casinos. By many people come to the casinos, there is a big chance for the next big spread of Covid-19 among them. I doubt why the government didn't think about the possible next surge of people infected by Covid-19. If the reason is about the request from the casinos' owners, it really hurts the general society. Why the government more cares to the owners than the users or society? It is a big question.

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Quote from: angrybirdy on June 15, 2020, 10:23:00 AM

It still too soon for them to open casinos. Hopefully, they won't regret their actions like in our country, the number of covid-19 patients are still increasing because of openning of most establishments like malls, etc. Instead of stopping it to spread, most people continue their different activities and they don't think of helping each other in this kind of situation.

This is the worst decision to make on every gambling establishment for now, because of ongoing pandemic problems. If they won't pay attention to this ongoing situation and still the virus transmission gets worsen, we don't help the problem to supress but rather eradicate. Much better to halt several physical casino operations instead of resuming it into normal operation, while virus problems still persists to infect many individuals.

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Quote from: lienfaye on June 15, 2020, 05:22:50 PM

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There are an alternatives to satisfy ourselves in gambling and that is through online, hence until its not safe to go outside its better to stay home.

I will tell you based on my experience. Playing in an online casino and playing in a casino are very different. If you want to relax and have a good time first of all, then an offline casino is the best option.
I would also like to fly to Las Vegas, but I can't do it yet for other reasons. I hope I do it one day.

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Quote from: lienfaye on June 15, 2020, 05:22:50 PM

So its up to gamblers now, yes casinos are open but are you willing to risk your health just to gamble?

There are an alternatives to satisfy ourselves in gambling and that is through online, hence until its not safe to go outside its better to stay home.

Not all do have a mindset of playing gambling online. And as far as Vegas players are concerned, they will still consider doing gambling at physical casinos instead of online even there's a risk.

The reason is, out of boredom, just want to see the casino's safety measures and want to feel the entertainment again after being stuck for several months.

As for risk, casino gamblers are already aware of that. So what they are expecting for these casinos is to make them feel safe while they are doing their own healthy measures.

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Quote from: lienfaye on June 15, 2020, 05:22:50 PM

Its business so they need to operate to be on track of gaining profit again. Despite of their safety measures we cant assure that you're safe if you go there, if an infected person go to that place it can spread the virus.

The virus will only spread if such person will intentionally do it, the basic measures the casino will require is wearing a face mask all the time, and with face mask, one can't infect people. Also, I believe the measures are not only done when entering in a casino, they also do it when going out in the casino.

Quote from: lienfaye on June 15, 2020, 05:22:50 PM

So its up to gamblers now, yes casinos are open but are you willing to risk your health just to gamble?

There are an alternatives to satisfy ourselves in gambling and that is through online, hence until its not safe to go outside its better to stay home.

I'm pretty sure goers in a casino are aware of the risk, if they still go that means they are willing to take the risk and they will also make sure to minimize that risk by following the safety measures, if all goers are responsible, then there will be no cases cause by the casino operation, it's just all about personal responsibility while the casino are strictly implementing the protocol.

Let's just reflect on this new.

https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/despite-casinos-reopen-and-tourism-activity-resuming-many-workers-remain-left-behind

What more if they will not open?

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Its business so they need to operate to be on track of gaining profit again. Despite of their safety measures we cant assure that you're safe if you go there, if an infected person go to that place it can spread the virus.

So its up to gamblers now, yes casinos are open but are you willing to risk your health just to gamble?

There are an alternatives to satisfy ourselves in gambling and that is through online, hence until its not safe to go outside its better to stay home.

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Quote from: freedomgo on June 15, 2020, 05:03:12 PM

As they opened the casino, it's expected that people will once again play and they can't rely on the casinos only, the government has to help in implementing the protocol to ensure that the casino are following everything in place.

Las Vegas casinos are top of the class. Surely, the safety measures here are way more strict and organized compared to other establishments. No need for the government to do follow-ups as surely if there's a problem, the government will be notified right away.

Referring to some user experience, casino hotels there developed a seven-step safety plan and includes a link to the plan on the sticker affixed to each room door. So just imagine what's more to the casinos itself.

More here: https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/hotels/2020/06/13/hotel-safety-covid-19-coronavirus-las-vegas-open-new-york-new-york-caesars-palace/5341691002/

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Quote from: freedomgo on June 15, 2020, 05:03:12 PM

Of course they have the right but the government also has the responsibility to ensure that the virus will not spread more.
As they opened the casino, it's expected that people will once again play and they can't rely on the casinos only, the government has to help in implementing the protocol to ensure that the casino are following everything in place.

I think people need to make their own decisions on this issue. The government has already done everything it can. Now that the epidemic has begun to ease a little, the government is right to give people a choice. We are adults and everyone makes their own decision. It's wrong to keep everyone at home by force.

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Quote from: FontSeli on June 15, 2020, 04:52:54 PM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on June 06, 2020, 05:10:55 AM

I’m UK based but I’m glad, we need to start getting back to normal soon. This pandemic has claimed lives but really it’s a tiny, tiny % of the numbers that get infected. We can’t hide away at home forever, economies are collapsing, unemployment numbers are increasing. We need to get back to some kind of normality.

There was no quarantine in my country. I recently looked at the death statistics. The death rate was a couple of percent higher than from the flu.
Of course, lost lives can't be returned. And each of us should take care of ourselves and our families.
However, it is worth remembering that each person is responsible for himself. And if someone wants to fly to Las Vegas and try their luck twice (once in a casino, the other time exposing themselves to the risk of infection), then they have the right to do it.

Of course they have the right but the government also has the responsibility to ensure that the virus will not spread more.
As they opened the casino, it's expected that people will once again play and they can't rely on the casinos only, the government has to help in implementing the protocol to ensure that the casino are following everything in place.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on June 06, 2020, 05:10:55 AM

I’m UK based but I’m glad, we need to start getting back to normal soon. This pandemic has claimed lives but really it’s a tiny, tiny % of the numbers that get infected. We can’t hide away at home forever, economies are collapsing, unemployment numbers are increasing. We need to get back to some kind of normality.

There was no quarantine in my country. I recently looked at the death statistics. The death rate was a couple of percent higher than from the flu.
Of course, lost lives can't be returned. And each of us should take care of ourselves and our families.
However, it is worth remembering that each person is responsible for himself. And if someone wants to fly to Las Vegas and try their luck twice (once in a casino, the other time exposing themselves to the risk of infection), then they have the right to do it.

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Quote from: bitcoinst on June 15, 2020, 01:54:19 PM

Quote from: Shasha80 on June 14, 2020, 05:45:50 PM

I think it's right that Las Vegas Casinos should be reopened soon, because we have been living in quarantine for too long. If like that
continue, the economy can be increasingly destroyed. Because Las Vegas Casinos employees need salary to buy food, even to my
knowledge tax from casinos big enough. So if opened can provide tax income for the United States.

Most casinos are already really open.
Of course, the economy is suffering, but casinos are primarily entertainment without which people can do.
The staff only performs a service function. Much more important: Keeping people safe with the redistribution of the virus.

It's an entertainment business but it's a big industry, though there is a pandemic but gamblers are still ready to risk going into the casino to play, and while the casino are making millions or billions of dollars, that would be a big contribution to the economy as they are going to pay taxes based on the income they derive from their operation.

Any kind of business as long as it's earning and paying taxes to the government, they all contribute to the economy and the government now needed them so they decided to open the businesses to save the economy of this uncertain situation we are at now.

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Quote from: Shasha80 on June 14, 2020, 05:45:50 PM

I think it's right that Las Vegas Casinos should be reopened soon, because we have been living in quarantine for too long. If like that
continue, the economy can be increasingly destroyed. Because Las Vegas Casinos employees need salary to buy food, even to my
knowledge tax from casinos big enough. So if opened can provide tax income for the United States.

Most casinos are already really open.
Of course, the economy is suffering, but casinos are primarily entertainment without which people can do.
The staff only performs a service function. Much more important: Keeping people safe with the redistribution of the virus.

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