Topic: Lately I've been thinking about this a lot. (Read 612 times)

I rather believe in something I see than something they tell me. Betting on an event is something you can bet on because they are reliable even though sometimes they are fixed and can also be manipulated. If for instance, Manchester City has a match with Burnley, I can confidently make that bet that Manchester will win without a doubt, I will go to sleep confidently but I can bet confidently on a blackjack because the owner of the casino told me house edge is 2%. I believe in too much on the skill of a person more when gambling.

I don't like to bet on UFC fight because nowadays, the fight look stage and organizers are just looking for money than letting it happen naturally. Look how Francis Nganu lose to Anthony Joshua with a blow, too weak for that kind of man. Don't be surprised if they manipulate Tyson Fury match with that little boy.

That is the kind of thing that could get an athlete banned for life from their sport and facing criminal charges, most professional leagues put on their contracts that no member can place bets even on their favor, so it is obvious that betting against yourself is a form of fraud and a contract violation, and athletes are even encouraged to avoid gambling completely to avoid rising the suspicion they could be doing something they should not, and very often that prohibition also includes close family members, so anyone doing that will end up with a criminal record for sure.

There are rules that are imposed already but it's just that there are only players who sometimes don't abide them because they think these rules sucks and they think they can gain more advantage if the play outside it. Maybe there are some who are lucky and skilled enough to not get caught but we can only wish they will get busted next time so that the competition will get fairer. Verified legit betting platforms are not rigged but sometimes we bettors are only paranoid to think they are like that, especially if we experience to lose a lot.

Indeed that those who are guilty of committing a violation should be punished accordingly so that other's won't follow it anymore or their rates will only get lowered if stopping them completely is not possible.

Isn't this called "conflict of interest"? What if somebody finds out that this guy(and his friends and relatives) has made more money by losing the fight instead of winning? Can't all the people, who bet money on him simply start a lawsuit against him? At the end of the day, this is cheating and the people, who bet money on him were scammed. And yes, the "Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson" circus isn't a serious boxing match, so i wouldn't recommend anyone to bet big money on this circus. I'm sure that it would be pretty easy to prove in court, that this guy and his uncle made money by placing bets on the other fighter.

Op what you are saying isn't far from what's happening in the real life situations. Most times some of these players who have gained quite a good reputation just intentionally losses a match, this is even common in the football game, but if your are caught, you'll face the fifa ban. But in real sense, I don't get the reason why someone would actually lose a match intentionally just because he wants to get extra gain from betting against himself. I deem that to be wickedness because ones you start such behavior, you can never get satisfied meaning, from time to time they'll still bet against their selves.

Many people are suspected of match fixing in combat sports. But I agree with you that it does happen but not all fighters and all fights involve match fixing. Some professional fighters also reject match-fixing because it derails their careers. I think a five round fight or going by the judges has the potential to be rigged. But defeat by knockout/submission is almost impossible due to match fixing.

For the actual UFC? I doubt that this is happening, maybe it does but very rare. Because those UFC fighters have their career on stake and if they're willing to do that kind of match fixing then they must be prepared to lose their career on an instant. They're professionals and I am not sure if they've got sworn and oath before going on to become a professional fighter. But this isn't just happening in the UFC because of the movie you've watched but even in some other sports including the common esports nowadays, there are match fixing. It's just sad that because of gambling that big money is going on with these matches and they affect the competitiveness and seriousness of these matches and fights.

If they're proving how good they are with their skills, win or lose that won't be taken from them. The legacy that they will leave is important to them and that's why I think that most of them or if there any one that has done or will do it have already accepted their fate. But AFAIK, most of these athletes or fighters before signing their contracts, they've got conditions that they shouldn't do any gamble to the first, second or how many degree they have in their family. You know what I like with contact sports to be specific is that it's uniqueness of having the twist of the result with just having a single blow from the losing fighter to the winning fighter that can turn the table on the losing fighter's favor.

This makes me remember on telegram, just yesterday my wife found on telegram a supposed referee who left refereeing because she had referee friends who always fixed the matches, and that she was now dedicated to giving or making the type of rigged bets because she knew how clearly who was going to win and that the only thing he had to do was invest starting at 50usd and that in 4 hours he was in charge of working that money to earn more than triple, then he is a clear scammer, and surely they have scammed many, so these types of things of rigged aprtidos for me do exist and it is a shame, because corruption is something that cannot be stopped even in struggles, no matter how much technology there is, the eprosnas continue to commit acts of corruption, for this reason it is very ugly Admit it, but there are still many corrupt things in sports.

I'm a skeptic in this regard....
In my opinion, the number of fixed matches is very high.  In fact, the coaches and team use bookmaker bets to make money.  And this is part of the overall sports financing strategy.  Unfortunately, this is a reality under capitalist relations.  In this case, of course, no written or mental evidence of match-fixing remains.  The participants in these matches are not interested in such evidence being available to the public. 
All interested parties consider income from match fixing as part of their salary system.

Yes, that will be their decisions whether to still place a bet or leave the bet without thinks too much. They don't have to follows what other people who still place a bet, especially if they can't accept the reality that the match is fixed. They better leave it and not watch the match or their feeling will gets the impact of the dislike.

If that happens to us, we can used our time to do other things that's not related to gambling because that can makes them to feel enjoy with the other activities. We must search for the other activities that can gives us happiness and we will gets many things  besides of using gambling to have fun. So it's not be a problem if we thinks that match is fixed because we have the other thing to release our stress.

Hahaha, Mike Tyson agreed and wanted to fight Paul because of the money and of course the money that Mike Tyson could make was huge, this was one of the main reasons why the fight took place.
Some people don't care about this fight because they will only rely on what is superior to win in betting but this fight is not an exhibition because there are other things that can happen.
If the medical test before the fight shows that Mike Tyson is having problems or does not meet the requirements, Sakio Bika will be the substitute fighter who will replace Mike Tyson, I read this in several trusted news media that I follow.
In the end it all comes down to money but this is not an exhibition fight.

Is KYC only intended for this kind of thing?
Many KYCs can be completed with fake data or buying other people data to complete KYC and everything can be much easier than we think.
If it is related to context like this, I think it will only happen in unimportant fights because for important fights that involve fighting for championship belt, no fighter will deliberately give up.
Winning can give him more money and for the next fight when it becomes fight to defend the championship belt it can also give him more money, they won't care about the bets made by their uncle or relatives.

Yes, FIFA has adopted some quite strict regulations and consequences for player misconduct, both on and off the field. Fines, suspensions, and even permanent bans from the sport are among the sanctions. I believe this is significant because it sends a clear message that such behaviour is not accepted in the sport. However, I'm not sure if the punishment is enough to actually change the culture of gambling and illicit behaviour in sports, because regardless the rules, people still indulge in irresponsible gambling and sporting and allowing it to get between them and their lives.

Firstly, it is very difficult to prove in retrospect that a particular match was fixed. To do this, you need to find materials that would confirm this. For example, oral negotiations between match participants and those who bet on the outsider with a large odds. Or correspondence between participants in a fixed match. At the same time, it is still necessary to prove that these negotiations or correspondence are not a fake, invented by a neural network on the instructions of some prankster. In addition, there must be a result of the match that would be highly doubtful. For example, an experienced and titled team unexpectedly loses to a newcomer for no reason. This is always suspicious in terms of match fixing.

We have players that have always been on the edge of breaking significant rules and I must say this, FIFA puts close range on these players and any player caught will have to face challenges and this will be out of shape for most of them, remember there are punishment for every rules been broken. We've been in the system and watch closely how everything play out and the shocking events that will shuts our mouths because there's absolutely nothing to do other than observing the system.

The movie scenario you mentioned is a product of fiction and might not likely be happening in reality. Since you referred to that UFC fighter as a reliable bet, it means the said fighter might be popular, therefore we can consider him as a big professional fighter.

If these professional players/athletes are involved in intentional loss, the cost of it is so huge, better than being a one-time millionaire just to win the high odds on the bookies. A player might faced sanction such as stripping the status of being a professional athlete with a lifetime ban on that sport, lose sponsorships, face a lawsuit, and many other worse things.

I doubt a professional fighter will be involved in that.

Game fixing is still not totally eradicated in any sports up until now. So yeah, I believe, it is still happening but most of the time, people are just silent about it. Why? Because it is hard to prove if only few people know about it. How can you get evidence of the act? People will talk but it is all talk. This is why you will only hear murmurs but no tangible evidence can be presented.

But if you know the players or athletes involved and know how they perform inside the ring or arena, you will see if there is something wrong with the game. You can see that they are throwing the game. Just like one of the threads here before stating about a local basketball game. The audience clearly saw what was happening because they knew the players involved. Hard to fake your moves while you are playing if the audience already knew how you perform inside the arena.

Pretty sure this happens all the time in boxing, martial arts, and even in other sports, seen firsthand in a local tournament how one team threw the whole game and their chance at lifting the trophy cause the match was apparently fixed and they are bound to get a pretty good sum of money guaranteed if they'd just throw the game and let the other team win, we found out it was fixed because there was the difference in skill and overall enthusiasm while playing just changed all of a sudden when they were steamrolling every other team in their bracket and the closest ones previously.

Is it illegal? You can say that, does it ruin the essence of the sport? Yes if you'd ask me. The main reason why we have these types of competitions in the first place is to cement who's the best and who's the strongest athlete or player, and having matchfixing scandals like these destroys the reputation of the sport and the league where it happened in general. But can we really stop it? Nope. It's a systematic flaw that would not be vanquished anytime soon cause people want money, people want certainty, and if that certainty can only be achieved through throwing matches or whatever, they'd be asking you for the pen and where to sign on it without a second thought.

It is called match-fixing and for this, a lot of gamblers suffer a lot for this type of match-fixing. Many people lose where there is a confirmed win. I hate any type of match-fixing as it is related to our emotions as well as our money.

Is different UFC than boxing, but for sure we have rigged games in both kinds of events, just remember what happened with the Logan Paul VS Mayweather Fight, it ended in a draw, so, all the people who bet on Logan or bets in Floyd lose their money. It was a great day for the casinos.

And we have seen in the past some fights where was obvious how does fighter A won while the Judge decided to give the match to fighter B. When there is a lot of money involved, weird results can show up.

Also happening in boxing, imagine a world champion being beaten by the challenger, and still get a huge amount of profit compare if he will win the match. This is how the contract works and of course, evert team have their own terms and conditions regardless of their reputation as long as the money speaks, they will obey and follow it. This is not new anymore as many rumors already spread before, and yet just a few held accountable for this.