Topic: Lately I've been thinking about this a lot. - page 5. (Read 612 times)

It is here and in every other sport games.You risk such things in sport betting as we have seen odds of 1.07 in tennis losing the game and odds of 1.04 in basketball.This means that most people with power like big bookies will try to alter things as if all odds of lower 1.10 would win their games the bookies would be losing money so these are well known things,some intentional lost games may be the standard in such sports yet it is still much better than playing slot games.

In big-money sports like the UFC, everyone speculates about manipulated fights. With Jake Paul and Mike Tyson, the stakes are high. However, these are world-class athletes. They arrived without tossing matches.

Sure, corruption is always on your mind. Remember, these fighters are proud. This costs them blood, sweat, and sacrifice. Showcase their tremendous skill. Fans that wager must bet wisely. Do your research on the combatants, form, and sport before betting on rumors.

A modest bet is fine. It excites and engages you. Done responsibly, its more than money. Appreciating the fight, tactics, and athleticism. It demonstrates you're a true fan and participant. wager wisely, wager with your head, and respect these warriors' hustle and heart.

This is a problem that is being solved by governments, by casinos, by the people who run sports, but there will always be one case and another, and it is difficult to think that there would not be some case. but nowadays with the professionalization of sport, most athletes take their profession very seriously, they know that if they are found playing fixed games, then they will lose everything: they will be fired, they will lose sponsorship contracts, they will lose all respect and admiration that fans have for them, they will lose a lot of money and miss new opportunities. in other words, they will be finished if they are found participating in fixed games. By that I mean the following in this fight between Jake Paul and Mike Tyson, I think people shouldn't be discrediting this fight

I know that in most exhibition fights, the fighters don't take the fight very seriously because they are fights in which in many cases the fighters involved are retired, they are people who haven't fought for a long time, so people quickly start thinking that the fights are fixed. people are quick to think that the end result of the fight was planned before the fight even took place. In my opinion, this fight will be a fight in which both fighters will take the fight seriously, I don't see Mike Tyson putting on an act in this fight, the guy is the type of fighter that many people have already seen him fighting, there are controversies that he involved, I'm talking about fights in real life, so anyone will find out when he puts on an act. That's why I don't think he would be stupid enough to put on an act in this fight. also if he puts on an act in this fight, then he will destroy his reputation

Yes just an exhibition and both fighters go home with a ton of money. The only losers are those who will bet on them. At the moment nobody knows who the winner of the match will be awarded to. Yes I said awarded because I like to think that this has already been concluded by the show promoters.

I know the first part is true but not the second part of the statement. Will this be akin to match fixing if it is discovered that the fighter's relative bet on the match?

It can happen in entertainment games but when it comes to professional games I doubt it could happen. Why? I believe there's a clause in their contract about the family and the professional sports player about it. It's forbidden to either bet for yourself or bet for your opponent and that includes their close relatives because what you have seen in the movie could really happen.
That is to prevent these players from either selling the game by losing or point-shaving just to let the other team win.
It's illegal, and if caught, I bet their whole career is in jeopardy so who would want that? Imagine working so hard to be a pro and then wasting all of it with a single bet that won't even suffice to buy an island for yourself or for the future of your kids until your grandkids.

Money can make a lot of people go against their will. If the strongest fight gives up the fight to a weaker one, it means that the money involved is what he is after and not for respect. I am not surprised that nowadays, people prefer money to respect.

Matches that are been fixed, kills the fun and professionalism of the game, decieving people and extortiing them of their funds in disguise of a bet, which is against the law. I prefer to bet on football matches on big leagues to avoid being a victim to match fixing.

This doesn't happen only in boxing, most sport are into it, where the big guy looses intentionally and in turn get good money's from the high odds of him losing, in football some years back, juventus FC in Italy where facing some sanctions for match fixing. So they do fix some of this big event, we might not know but if you dig deeper you will find of some cases that where found to be true.

The game between Tyson and Jake, I'm not sure if they will actually let that fight happen, mike Tyson is 57 and Jake Paul is around 27 there is a high level of mismatch with their age difference, which I feel the organizers might not want it to happen however if it does happen then it will not be as aggressive as we would have wanted.

Unfortunally, I have the hunch situations like that are very common when comes to fighting, wrestling and boxing, because unlike sports which are played in teams, the outcome of the match or the fight between these two parties are dependant only in the willingness of one of the fighters to continue.
Since money is very effective to corrupt people in all kinds of sports and situations, fighting would not be the exception. Because of this I believe it would be better not to bet in small fighting clubs, events of leagues which could easily be influenced that way, one needs to stick to fighters who are already in a very good economical position (and their family members), so they would not ruin their reputation and statistics for mere money.

Initially, I was going to suggest to investigate whether any of the family members of the fighters had high stakes on the fight, in order to spot this kind of illegal activity, but realistically, the fighters can ask a friend or someone who would not be part of their family circle to place the bets in their place.

Whatever the case, I usually bet on football... Not fighting and this is one of the reasons of it.

First of all, where is the evidence? or proof that a UFC fighter intended to lose just so he could gain money from his uncle's winning as it bets on his match? At least your OP should put up or provide a link that will support your statement, because otherwise we will treat this as a fake statement or made-up story. Anyway,  let's look up the idea or concept of the statement about a player or team in a sport that can be similar to the statement of the OP. 

A match in sports can be scripted in the sense that an opposing opponent or team will let the other team or opponent win just because there is a big bet going on, so in order to work it out their way or for them to benefit from that, they will follow what is in the expected result, which we know sometimes happens in sports, especially those popular sports leagues.

 I watched something like this too. Although the stronger guy lost deliberately because his opponent begged him to so the latter could still remain fighting since that was the only thing that put food on the table and was also paying bills but in real life I dunno if this kinds of things go on.
There was a time I watched a UFC game, it was intriguing and a bit one sided because the stronger fighter was busy doing his opponent's face in and it was obvious he was the winner but at the start of second round, the very beaten opponent just gave a sharp blow to this guy's jugular and he just fell to the ground! For me it was not really something I'd call heavy( well, how would I know since I'm not on the receiving end, right?) but the fall was a looking a bit premeditated, maybe he agreed to sell the game? 

I'm not sure if there will be gamblers and a lot of them are going to bet on the Tyson vs Jake Paul as it might be rigged, for all we know. And we don't like fights like that, exhibition and just try to milk their fans. Not sure what you watch, but obviously it's a movie and most of the time this is pure fiction Going back to the Tyson vs Jake Paul though, yeah it if rigged then someone will have to make a lot money right? But there are Las Vegas bookies who might look at some disparities in the betting line. And if they see that something is not right and there are big bets to try and manipulate the result, then they might not get their big win because it will be investigated unlike in the movies wherein they are paid right away.

It surely do happen, many things are fixed in the entertainment world. Name it, football matches, wrestling, boxing, etc. I watched one boxing match that AJ lost to someone I considered a  weaker opponent sometimes ago, I kept researching to convince myself of the reason he lost that match and finally  found out that the loser even had more funds obtainable than the winner. It was obvious that's the reason he lost the match. The money was more important to him.

Even in footballing, you'll see a very weak team defeating a team in great form and the team will be displaying unnecessary errors that prevents them from scoring and you'll be like what's really happening. I think that Tyson match isn't a very serious one and I don't see what they're fighting to achieve. Its obvious they fight for entertainment, so expect any outcome from the match. Myself would not bet on such a match because the possibility that it would be fixed is very high.

I believe a lot of this happens in all kinds of matches. The fighters are after legacy and money, and there are a lot of dirty games being played off the ring and in the background. That's why there is always some kind of speculation about certain matches being fixed and the result being known. 
 
Since it's illegal for such to be brought to the open, those big players who place a big bet on their person won't allow it to come out to the open, and this can only be possible with a fighter who has mutual agreement with those placing the bet, and the fighter, after calculating the risk, will have nothing to lose. 
 
To the gamblers who place bets on someone who they know, based on skill and strength, is going to win a fight, then all of a sudden the fight goes the opposite way. You just have to accept it that way, and if it repeats itself, the confidence you have in that fighter will reduce. The best thing to do is to avoid placing bets on any of his fights in order not to incur more losses as a result of his reckless decision.

If someone bet Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson and believe the match will going to serious, they're made mistake. You can't really know which one will win because it's an exhibition match, so I won't be surprised if Jake Paul will win.

I believe this is illegal in professional match, the player must not intentionally lose the fight and his relatives must not bet on his match. That's why most casinos ask KYC to prevent from this kind to happen.

So I happened to watch a UFC related movie yesterday and the main character is a very strong one who never loses a fight but during a fight he decided to lose the fight, I found out that he did it intentionally because his uncle and his uncle's friend bet a lot on the biggest odd, which is the other fighter.

He lost the fight and he still made a lot of money from his uncle and his uncle's friend, how brilliant? Since they use a large amount and also on the biggest odd, but I think about the other gamblers who chose to bet on him because there was assurance that he would win the fight.

Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?