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This is another version of match fixing, and it can be happening under our noses without you having an idea about it.

 Gamblers are at the disadvantage because they never know when these things happen and in a situation where you bet against the house you lose all your money regardless of the statistics that your choice has because even the fighters in this sort of match fixing are very aware. A fighter who is a known loser, may have been loosing and then be fixed to win in a fight where everyone least expects, in these fights, they have the biggest odds, and when they win, the fixers make lots of money as well as those who bet on them, and the fighter.  

This is why its called betting and it would really be just that depending on you on whom you would gonna choose for such certain fight. It is really just that cant really be avoided not to think about these probabilities on which it could really actually happen and this is something that will really be leading out into those kind of approach that you would really be thinking about making some counterbets because you've been assuming that this would really be an upset. Tons of times i have witnessed about those upsets in sports on which you couldnt really be able to believe that it did happen on which you could really be basically be able to tell on whose gonna
win on a bright sunny day if we do base up on stats and fighting skills or whatever it is, but it turns out to be a losing one then there's nothing we can do about it.

Intentional loss in bigger leagues or fights is really that hard to be done. Why? the world is watching out and if they have seen something odd then it would really be a huge problem for you as a player/fighter.
They would really be accusing you for it to be intentional.

I guess you should check the "Magic City" serial... S1.E6 "The Harder They Fall" to be accurate. It's actually a reverse story, after a mobster spreads a rumor that he made a bet on an underdog many people decide to follow him and bet big on the underdog. Of course, the underdog lost and many people lost a lot of money, a huge profit for mobster bookies. I am sure there are many different "fixes" in one vs one sports games, and even though I am more into "team sports", I think if we get too deep into conspiracy theories it's better to stop betting on sports in general. 

Staged fight in the world of gambling is something that have been since of old, and even till this moment, it still happens and unfortunately, there seem to be absolutely nothing the ordinary gambler can do about this or such things, if a gambler have a connection with someone who works closely with the organizers of this games or matches, then they can use that to their advantage as such person will always know which fights are staged or rigged, and which are not.

I once have come across a user on telegram who told me had connections with some people who have connection with those who organizes some UFC matches, and the organizers always pass out such information to those in their circle, or matches that they have staged or rigged, and those on that circle now pass out same information to some of their circles as well who are willing to pay them huge sums of money for such information, and the dude on telegram told me that that is how he makes his money from gambling.

So, there is actually such possibility as stated by the op, that some this fighting matches are sometimes rigged, but there is no way the ordinary gamblers can know, expect those with deep pockets who are willing to spend so much to get connected to source that will provide such information to them.

The world of UFC operates through multiple combinations such as promotion, the fighters contracts, sponsorship revenues and deals, merchandise sales and many many other aspects. Although what you said might be possible, these sport are not based on gambling only.

It is what might be happening in all sports betting and not only UFC, but It is not surprising as we find a lot of manipulation and businesses that take profits behind these sports.  In sports betting and generally in all gambling world, the risk is always present because we put our money on things we're not 100% sure of them working on our behalf, so the right thing to do is to do a lot of researches about anything, understand the odds, and gamble responsibly.

Whatever happened gambling is risk. Tere are several manipulations and favoring side that occurs in sport general. It does not have to do with boxing alone. In sports or entertainment its necessary we understand that realty is involved, and it should be giving concerns before we choose a side. However, it is most found in fight where we can see the dark side of sports, where the rich manipulate the game to fall in their favor. I have seen cases of fighters throwing fights, often due to financial pressure or threats. And i have seen cases where a fighter is been threatened to lose a fight if not something bad would happen to his family. Many other crazy things happen in fight, so for a gambler like me i stick to football gambling so that i won't find myself in such a scenario like this.

Still happening I guess especially with small tournaments and leagues. But with mainstream matches, this is still possible to happen given that big money is involved. However, we know how risky it is to do so since their names are on the line; if it would be discovered then their careers will be instantly over. Perhaps in this match, Mike sells it. If he'd be bashed for it, his brands being promoted would be also at risk and that is something he should consider since no amount of money will be equal to such things and privileges. It would be totally unfair for bettors especially those who are fans of them. Disappointment would be on the line as well.

There are bettors who has access with fixed matches. Unbelievable how they set aside their conscience given how many people are losing big amount of money on matches they believed of.

That could happen because we may have often encountered things like that. So it is not surprising that things like that will happen in the future, and we should consider them normal.
You don't need to think much about fixing such matches. If you want to place a bet, place it immediately and wait for the results.
If you win, enjoy the result but if you lose, you don't need to be sad.
It's just a gambling game you often play, so consider it mere entertainment.

This is not far from what happens around sporting world and betting on it. We need to remember that there is business under these whole thing and that is the more reason that those who are tipped to win certain times don't get to win but how do you know about it? You will never know except an insider reveals to you.

Real gamblers don't take friendly matches seriously likewise fight put out for shows  The upcoming fight is not a serious match and so anything can happen. Mick Tyson might get a bigger tip to lose the match and so be it, he gets to benefit both sides and that gives him more financial balance. We have to always consider the business in such as it may not be winner takes all.

We can never ensure that a match is completely free from fixing, this has been a part of it knowingly and sometimes athletes are too involved in it to make more money if they lose than they win but there are also kinds of athletes who play for their pride and never wanted to lose no matter what.

We can't know anything that is why I am putting my money under my fate instead of trusting others.

What you see in films is very different from real life fights, fighters will always try to maintain their reputation to avoid defeat. In this position, not only money is the main benchmark, prestige, a winning record and the belt that adorns his waist are the most valuable things that money cannot buy.
The fight between Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson was only an exhibition match, meaning whatever the result will not be included in their professional records. Mike Tyson is a great boxer, but now that he has passed his golden age, appearing again in the ring to face Jake Paul is something that should not happen, especially since he is almost 60 years old. What is certain is that this fight will make a lot of money for both of them.

i think cases like this don't only happen in ufc, but also in other sports, such as football, cricket, etc., where teams/individuals who should win are forced to play less optimally in exchange for a certain amount of money. this is quite an unfortunate action, how sports should be honest and fair, but are polluted by acts of cheating carried out by irresponsible parties.

supposedly something like that wouldn't happen if regulators were strict with their competition, but what happens in the field is usually not like that. often regulators don't really care about this and turn a blind eye.

Yes, that is what we name as fixed matches. It's a pretty common phenomeon, especially in minor leagues which don't receive too much attention from public, authorities the media. Coincidentally, I saw today a video on Youtube stating there is going to be an investigation by the politicians in my country to analyze if the national sports industry is fair and legit on its results, of if the games are being fixed. I haven't watched it yet, but I will soon, because there are going to be interesting news which directly impact our bets results.

The possibility the favorite team or athlete loses is always present, otherwise, if the results were assured since before the game started, there wouldn't be a reason to gamble at all. When you gamble, you must be aware about the risk the match is going to be fixed. I don't believe there are any guarantees a match isn't going to be fixed, because no one is trusted on this industry, including the regulators who theoretically ensure the legitimacy of the games and their results.

Use whatever method and strategy you like while gambling, take any control measures and precautions as you like, as long as it is all about gambling, you only have the two option of winning or losing and the chances for loosing is still more higher than that of winning, the reason why the house edge will always prevail over the gambler because that is how such is been expected to operate by default, this doesn't mean that we cannot win either, but we lose more often than we win each time we are gambling, while your suggestion may work base on the game type we are playing if it's a luck base or skills to determines our chances for winning.

if the rules and the right gloves are to be used in this match,  i think Mike will lose. the old Mike has almost chronic backpain. In real life, it's not possible to win against someone as huge as Jake who has also KO'd fighters bigger than Mike. you may think Jake is just a problem child of Disney but he is a real big guy who can box. but this is an exhibition where rules are prepared for Mike not to drop dead.

there could be some Mafia in UFC also just like in Boxing but this is almost rare to be seen by the public eye as is done in the situation of Pikey Mickey. but they give some clues though especially in the rival fighters which they know the fight could become a series up to a trilogy.

It's still a toss-up and thinking this match would be more reliable than casino games is a trap given they've already secured their fair share of money.

Jake Paul might have the upper hand if we look at the odds, but you never know what the other side plans to do, and to me, it's always possible for Mike Tyson to step up even though there's not much on the line.

I'd rather bet my money on another match and betting on casino games doesn't look any worse.

I only place low wagers on fights due to the fact that they could be fixed. I don't think Dana White would allow it and would likely ban a fighter for life if he found out, but I'm sure that it has happened.

Far as Jake Paul and Tyson goes, Tyson would kill him if they were going at it. I am pretty sure they are just doing a glorified sparring match and Jake is supposed to be the winner. It's a joke.

If it's an exhibition fight, there's a possibility of fixing it because it's all for the show but if it is a real fight and there's something at stake they will have second thoughts about fixing the game because people are watching the fight closely, and if they are caught fixing a real fight then people will not support their coming fights.


They cannot do it in title fights and if it is sanctioned by big organizations they will nullify their license if caught, game fixing is a serious offense and the organizations have observers to see if the fight is not being fixed, it's a big gamble for the part of perpetrators they will lose money, reputation and even go to jail if found guilty.

Well, that just means it is match-fixing. It's cheating but it's still a win. If it's not a movie, it's liable to criminal charges you know. I think this is not a brilliant idea because it's sometimes obvious. I do remember an NBA player who is unknown but too obvious that he is stat farming or something. He didn't want to rebound because he might add up so early in the game. I forgot the name but I saw it on YouTube.

It can happen and it is still happening, but the cheater should make the act good for not to make it obvious that he is fixing the game, there is a camera and the experts can easily trace if one of the fighters is just doing acting, and every fight is very important as it will draw you closer to big fights.

That's one of the problems of combat sports and they have a way to trace this if the act is evident they will take out the fighter from their roaster, you can do fixing on small circuits or organizations, but it's hard if it is done in an organization as big as UFC.