Topic: Lately I've been thinking about this a lot. - page 2. (Read 612 times)

You got a very solid point on the fact that one shouldn't be bothered if any match is fixed, but should just bet anyways and perhaps the match results turn out to favour them.
That is the true story for those who just places their bet and go to sleep or to do some other more interesting activity, only to return and see that they have won big on a bet they didn't put so much thought to.

Over thinking will surely and always do take the fun and thrill out of any risky endeavor, mostly as regards gambling or placing a bet and that's the fact.

We don't needs to bothers to thinks about that and just act normally. If we wants to place a bet, we can try to analyzes the match before we decides. No matter what's the outcomes, we can accept that even if that match is fixing by some people. We don't have to place any bet if we thinks that match is fixing so we don't have to feels anything bad. We just follows what happens to the match.

Maybe we can feels that before we analyze the match or placing a bet because if that match is fixing by them, there will be a sign that be suspicious. People who familiar with that sign can guess that match is fixing by some people and they will not place a bet to any teams or player or they can place a bet with their selection. We must have aware of this and not make a decision if we are not sure so we don't have feels sad or regrets because we make a wrong decision.

That's we must not influence by that and accept whatever happens. Besides that, if we are only a viewer, we don't have to watch the match and can choose the other things that can entertain us. Many scenarios can happens with the fixing match so if we thinks that can't gives us the win, we don't have to place a bet instead just to watch the match. That's what people needs to do when they see the match that have a chance to be the fixing match by some people so they don't have to spends their money because the outcomes can be wild. But we can place a bet if we are okay if the money will be lost in that match.

Fans that will be sad when they see their star defeat in that match. But if fans knows about the fixing match, they will do something, especially if they see something wrong with their star. That will makes the organizations gets bad reputations and that means, corruptions or something like that already happens in the organizations. People will asks a higher level to investigate if they thinks that something wrong happens to that match.

Thing like this happen a lot, even in the football sector, there is quite a good number footballer who break FIFA rule by gambling on a match that they ought to play or gamble against themselves, and such player have quite a good reputation in their team to deliver against their opponent but yet, we watch them missing lots of chances with 80% probability that they ought to perform well. If FIFA finds out, the player in question will definitely get a ban and a fine for a period of time. Due to this fact, I believe it's enough reason to prove to everyone that gambling is entirely based on luck.

True, we as spectators only know everything in general that is published and maybe we just know about which players have a high probability of winning the fight or match without the slightest thought that leads to the cheating scenario, but yes, however unexpected things like that are very possible or have the potential to actually happen but maybe I think such scenarios are quite rare because the problem is that it is impossible for a player or fighter who already has high flying hours and good popularity to sacrifice everything they have worked for just for money.

Although for example the public does not know about what really happened behind the scenes but still the defeat experienced by their favorite player will indirectly cause considerable disappointment and obviously this incident can make supporters put a bad point of view on players who pretend to lose just for money, which means that the player's popularity will at least definitely experience a decline and I'm sure most players don't want to sacrifice their popularity just for money alone.

The bets can indeed be analyzed, it's the same as football betting. but it's still like what you said from the film you watched. manipulation can be carried out in sports matches. Maybe this is also related to the number of sports bets that occur in the match.
I'm not saying that the situation is like that, but we have certainly heard that in football, score fixing often occurs in one match to determine positions or tickets to qualify for the next round.
I personally avoid bets that are very clear or the results are certain. The first reason is that the odds are small, and the second is that surprises often occur beyond our predictions.

Match fixing has always been an issue when it comes to competitive sports and betting. It's as old as one can imagine and whatever issues our scenario imagined is actually a very big possibility.

I would like to think that this fixing of matches may become more prone in regions where it is like a major career and for those who enjoy placing a bet on such matches, it would be wise to research the region and cases of such previous happenings before betting huge.

It also would be a wise decision to bet on both sides if there's enough cash or better still, half the original amount intended to bet with on a single player (for boxing matches)and bet on both to win whichever way, incase there's suspicion of match fixing.

Yes, that's happen in real world but we don't knows for sure because that practices is hidden from public and not many people will knows. They are smart enough to hides their activity to makes the scenarios works for them without public knows so they can gets the benefits from the scenarios. We as a viewer only knows that the match is fair enough and not have that bad practice but the reality is we don't knows what happens to them. Some people gets the advantages of what they did and maybe the organizations doesn't knows about that or only some people inside the organizations knows about that practice. It will ruins the organizations reputations and integrity if the public knows the truth and the public will demo so the organizations can do prevention of that such practice.

In the world we live in recently, everything is business and every organization is looking for ways to maximize their dividends. It would shock you if I mention that its not only match fixing that the sports world is into, they're using it for money laundering too, if not convince me why a player would be bought for a whooping €100m and be paid €4m monthly.

I think this money laundering present especially in football is why a spending limit was initiated to curb the way money moves around. There are more corruption in circulation and like I pointed out earlier, everything is now seen as business.

Yes, this kind of things happen, and proof of it is that in many jurisdictions there is criminal legislation on the matter. For example, in Spain it was quite famous some time ago the regulation regarding sports competitions, specially La Liga; and we recently knew about at least one referee who was allegedly bribed.

So yes, it happens, although in which sports and how often will remain a mystery, like most shady and illegal practices.

Reading about your topic made me realize that these things may do happen in real life, although we do not know for sure if these kinds of scenarios do happen or not. I'm not a sports enthusiast or UFC fan but I'm sure that the sports organizations have preventive measures such as regulations to ensure that these kinds of scenarios would not happen in their sports because it would ruin the organization's integrity and reputation as well as their player or fighters.

what you've watched isn't just applicable in movies alone, in real ufc fights, thier area matches that are fixed and it's almost certain that it will go on favor of a particular guy. Sports is no longer all about the entertainment it used to be in the past. Each fighter has his own sponsors and all of them want to make in big from whoever they are sponsoring. Iether a fighter wins or looses in a match, he still goes home with his money and and so it's not strange that they might just get paid to fake some sort of knock out and get a folk to win even when he is the weaker fighter. Similar scenario played out during the Anthony Joshua vs Frances fight when it was obvious that the match was already fixed and the fighters just had to come up and entertain their audience and go home with the bag.

To some extent, it's unfair to spectators who pay to get thier ticket expecting that thier favourite fighter wins the match only to witness a display of laxity that's mere product of a manipulated system. Their are real fights that's see till neutral in the UFC but few of them are damn fixed.

How funny it sounds saying it is more reliable even when you just said someone who has never lost a fight intentionally lost a particular fight due to stakes involved against his opponent but meanwhile... There are other bettors who staked that he would win and believing in him to be a fighter who never lost his matches but unfortunately he lost and those who predicted on him to win failed.

Nothing changes in the luckiness of gambling.

Mike Tyson has made some influential histories so if I would have to bet on the match, I would like bet on him to win and also in the fact that I am his fan.
I will always bet on the side that I will enjoy the game being aware that I may lose or not. 

         -   I think that often happens when there is a fight, that instead of betting on their player, they bet on the opponent because of the realistic or practical nature that I see in this kind of thing.
And it doesn't just happen in the UFC fight; it also happens in the boxing fight.

Now for the fight that will happen with Mike Tyson, we don't know if that will happen; it may or may not, and we will know that when it is there on the day of the fight, for sure.

not only in the UFC but in all sporting events sometimes there are very bad things like insider betting as you said and previously there have been discussions regarding this issue so maybe a lot of people already understand incidents like this and indeed things like what you said it becomes a fear to try betting on sports betting but for me only my own mind is able to throw away negative thoughts like that and prefer to think that whatever happens gambling is always full of surprises and of course luck is also very important.
like in football betting, problems like this often occur, whereas UFC is the sport that many people like the most, only with 1vs1 you can manipulate to give in to lose just for money from the other direction.

with an incident like this, it might be a valuable lesson that betting on casino games or sports betting or any type of betting still has to use an amount that you can afford to lose and to avoid things like this, even though UFC is very profitable, there will still be surprises.

It is still very possible for a relative to place a bet on his relative even if KYC is involved, all they need to do is ask a friend to pass the KYC and the friend will also be the one to place the bet, the person's name and surname will be different, enough to confuse the platform that they are not related in any way.

You also called the Mike Tyson and Jake Paul fight an exhibition, that sounds like something that can definitely be rigged, it's left for them to choose, win for themselves and their statue, or win or lose for more money.

Yes, definitely there should be certain rules against the players from making bets tho, it's likely possible they can do it without being caught, who gets involved and was caught is who they considers a victim of law breaking. In every sports I believe their is every means deployed by this experts to make the game look not rigged whereas an under ground work is being carried out. We as gamblers may not be opportuned to detect all this, we just stake or bet under probability and waits the outcome. Whoever is found guilty should be severely punished, for misleading gamblers who staked their wins on him, with some months ban and a fine.

Yeah this is a big problem in sports betting which made me be more cautious when considering placing larger bets. It's not only in UFC or boxing where one fighter can decide to intentionally to throw a fight. Every athelete can decide to not give his 100% during a game and let the other team win. Of course having family members placing money on your own games which you can influence seem like a violation of professional code of conduct and should lead to some leagal consequences. Are you really willing to risk your whole sports career for manipulating games? Given the large sums of money involved in sports betting, there are many people keeping a close eye on the matches that everything is legit. When I first started out with sports betting I thought that in todays world the manipulating of games would not happen anymore. Unfortunately, this is not true and every year there are new big cases coming out where people managed to throw a game and profit of it. Which is why we need to be cautious and not only focus on our own skill finding the right teams.

Many decades ago, mafia families used to have a lot of control over boxing. There are even allegations that Muhammad Ali won the heavyweight title against Sonny Liston in a fixed match. The Wikipedia article on this rivalry is fascinating to read. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali_vs._Sonny_Liston

It is entirely possible that fixed fights are still happening today. Most top UFC fighters are not likely to throw a fight because it would ruin their career, but an undercard fighter who knows they won’t ever become champion could probably get away with acting like they are hurt to force a stoppage.

Exhibition fights like Tyson vs. Paul, I almost expect them to be rigged. These fights are unregulated and there is no obligation for them to have a fair fight. You are taking a risk if you are gambling on these fights. Jake Paul, an NFT scammer, is the exact type of person who would resort to doing something shady for the sake of profit.

Everything's possible, but in a professional match, fighters are not just focused on their immediate monetary prize. Winning a fight means a lot. It means having a better record. It means you're rising through the ranks. It means you're one step closer to a championship fight, or becoming a star or a celebrity. It means you could fight the biggest name in the sport. This goes on. And all this implies bigger money, higher paycheck. Not to mention that this is also about your name, your pride, your legacy. So, why would you sacrifice all this for the sake of a single bet?

But, yeah, this might not apply to exhibition matches and those that are more of a joke like Jake Paul's fights.

If this is proven to be true and facts leaked from previous fights, then this will only lead to so much hate and boycotting from the game of professionals especially in UFC or any professional boxing match. With regards to skill, fighters can chose whom they are going to fight depending on their condition which can give them great advantage.

About the exhibition fight of Tyson and Paul, I just hope that won't be a cocky fight or entertainment fight. And whomever wins on that fight, both of them would truly make large amount of money.