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legendary
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Terminated.
Isn't this just a bump in disguise - indeed the second in the same 24 hour period?  This is just a retelling of your previous posts and "adds nothing to the discussion" which, like the two bumps in 24 hours is against BCT rules?

http://archive.is/UboFn#selection-4351.0-4401.146
Yes, that's a double bump. Therefore, a rule was broken.

You know damn right shorena got paid under the table to change that rating around
I take it you have some evidence? Roll Eyes

I just read this thread i found and yes , this is clearly extortion attempt   Undecided  
The thread, especially the OP, contains highly incorrect information (e.g. minifrij) about the incident. What it contains is a made-up scenario that QS wishes had played out, in an attempt to get rid of me (and continue his/her escrow scams, DT account sales, et. al.). Also:
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newbie
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I just read this thread i found and yes , this is clearly extortion attempt   Undecided   
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No I dont escrow anymore.
I want to publicly say that I strongly disagree with the removal of negative ratings against Lauda/TMAN.

In the case of Lauda, this is not the first time that he has been accused of extorting someone, and AFAICT, the claims that zeroaxl was evading taxes/engaging in illegal activity were baseless. What could be reasonably confirmed however was that zeroaxl has/had a large amount of BTC, and had the resources to pay an extortion payment in order to prevent an invasive police investigation.

I know and I understand. I dont care enough anymore to do this alone. Probably time to move on.

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You know damn right shorena got paid under the table to change that rating around

Read the thread, but thanks for bringing yourself to my attention.
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I want to publicly say that I strongly disagree with the removal of negative ratings against Lauda/TMAN.

In the case of Lauda, this is not the first time that he has been accused of extorting someone, and AFAICT, the claims that zeroaxl was evading taxes/engaging in illegal activity were baseless. What could be reasonably confirmed however was that zeroaxl has/had a large amount of BTC, and had the resources to pay an extortion payment in order to prevent an invasive police investigation.

You know damn right shorena got paid under the table to change that rating around
legendary
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I want to publicly say that I strongly disagree with the removal of negative ratings against Lauda/TMAN.

In the case of Lauda, this is not the first time that he has been accused of extorting someone, and AFAICT, the claims that zeroaxl was evading taxes/engaging in illegal activity were baseless. What could be reasonably confirmed however was that zeroaxl has/had a large amount of BTC, and had the resources to pay an extortion payment in order to prevent an invasive police investigation.

Isn't this just a bump in disguise - indeed the second in the same 24 hour period?  This is just a retelling of your previous posts and "adds nothing to the discussion" which, like the two bumps in 24 hours is against BCT rules?

http://archive.is/UboFn#selection-4351.0-4401.146
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I want to publicly say that I strongly disagree with the removal of negative ratings against Lauda/TMAN.

In the case of Lauda, this is not the first time that he has been accused of extorting someone, and AFAICT, the claims that zeroaxl was evading taxes/engaging in illegal activity were baseless. What could be reasonably confirmed however was that zeroaxl has/had a large amount of BTC, and had the resources to pay an extortion payment in order to prevent an invasive police investigation.
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No I dont escrow anymore.
bumping for visibility

Whatever medication you are on, you need to start taking it...

Sup with the ad hominem?
legendary
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bumping for visibility

Whatever medication you are on, you need to start taking it...
hero member
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Oh! Lord . People have so much Time to write all of these posts nowadays  Roll Eyes

Good one QS . You Nailed it.

Somewhat unrelated, but it looks like Lauda might have been acting as an escrow in a situation in which a portion of money that the escrow was responsible for is not going to be returned.

Right. It was an altcoin scam and when i posted that its a shit scam project then all his jobless fucker followers started attacking me. The OP joel something of that scam coin was the worse shill motherfucker acting like they r delivering a mind boggling tech which can make humans immortal. Cunt.
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Somewhat unrelated, but it looks like Lauda might have been acting as an escrow in a situation in which a portion of money that the escrow was responsible for is not going to be returned.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
TBH, the results of this thread, and the reaction of many on this thread make me believe that a major overhaul of either the trust system and/or who is in the DT network is in order.

It appears that anyone who questions someone in a certain group of people is called a scammer.

Oh sure... let the least trusted members dictate forum policy. 

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I dont like that I had to leave these ratings and I like even less than it seems Im the only one on DT who gives a fuck. This thread makes me feel 1000 years old and so tired of this forum.
TBH, the results of this thread, and the reaction of many on this thread make me believe that a major overhaul of either the trust system and/or who is in the DT network is in order.

It appears that anyone who questions someone in a certain group of people is called a scammer.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
Yeah, same as many others Vod tends to ignore what someone with a negative rating says. I personally think its stupid to ignore a well constructed argument because of the person that made it, but I cant change that. Well, I can support the argument - as I do here - myself, but thats about it. A single DT rating means nothing, esp. not over time and with counter ratings.

It's not that he has negative trust... have you read his posts?  Spoetnik posts like an idiot.

Plus I am paying his way in life - I don't respect people like that.

Ask him about the "kindred spirit" email when he believed I liked underage girls.  

 Angry


Probably, yes. I dont like that I had to leave these ratings and I like even less than it seems Im the only one on DT who gives a fuck. This thread makes me feel 1000 years old and so tired of this forum.

Sometimes I feel the same way.  But you and I don't get paid to investigate these scams - we do it out of our sense of morality.

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No I dont escrow anymore.
Was Lauda fired or not ?
To me, it is obvious he was fired.

Blazed still has Lauda within his trust list, and this makes Blazed look like he thinks a self-admitted extortionist should be trusted by everyone. In my book, this means Blazed is not quite as trustworthy as he presents himself to be.

@shorena
That was highly evasive.

Probably, yes. I dont like that I had to leave these ratings and I like even less than it seems Im the only one on DT who gives a fuck. This thread makes me feel 1000 years old and so tired of this forum.

And what i said about VOD is bad and you played off like it was no big deal.

or maybe I just want to keep this on topic and not drift off into another discussion about people who should not matter in this thread.

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The regular people i deal with do not need to be PM'd all the time.

Yeah, I dont like this either. On the other hand Im not going to tell what someone told me in convidence. Please sign NDA if you wana see proof of scam, shits getting real fucked up.

Shorena i lost any respect i might have had for you.. it's gone.

I just try to do what is right with the little power BadBear and Cyrus gave me. If that means people dont like or respect me, so be it.

VOD did what i said.. that is a fucking fact !

Yeah, same as many others Vod tends to ignore what someone with a negative rating says. I personally think its stupid to ignore a well constructed argument because of the person that made it, but I cant change that. Well, I can support the argument - as I do here - myself, but thats about it. A single DT rating means nothing, esp. not over time and with counter ratings.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
You sure have a lot of enemies Spoetnik...   Undecided
legendary
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Was Lauda fired or not ?
To me, it is obvious he was fired.

Blazed still has Lauda within his trust list, and this makes Blazed look like he thinks a self-admitted extortionist should be trusted by everyone. In my book, this means Blazed is not quite as trustworthy as he presents himself to be.

@shorena
That was highly evasive.

And what i said about VOD is bad and you played off like it was no big deal.
It's not just the crap he's pulled on me ..there has been many complaints about him before.
And all i have seen for years is "the club" protecting him and turning a blind eye to the shit he pulls
..over & over.

Any guesses why i have 0 respect for the DT list of idiots ?
I couldn't care less about any of them or their opinions or their faggy little ratings.

What it amounts to is forming little groups of circle jerking bum buddy eFriends here.
That will fast track you to the DT list and get you made staff.
Which to me is a sign of insecure, childishness and ineptitude.
All these guys who think they are better than noob accounts have a massive chip on their shoulder.
And think their shit don't stink and they are a model of perfect behavior.

Bullshit.

ALL OF THEM simply break the rules when ever and how ever they want freely.
And their buddies help them cover it up.

The regular people i deal with do not need to be PM'd all the time.
We are smart enough to know what the other is thinking at ALL TIMES.

Shorena i lost any respect i might have had for you.. it's gone.
VOD did what i said.. that is a fucking fact !
And you shouldn't have even needed me too say what i did earlier either.
the signs should have been obvious long ago.. which shows me you are either deceitful or dumb or both.

Assholes covering for other assholes..
While making sure to punish any new guys who show up doing the same thing.. with neg's.
The Bitcointalk Back Room Boys club can fucking blow me hard.
Your opinions are fucking dog shit /.

And THAT is based on YOUR ACTIONS people.

..not "opinion"

I'd value the opinion of a 0 post noob account more than you DT idiots.
Did i mention Kluge ?
Yup his bum-buddies here smooth over his trolling death threats on me before.
Because apparently "i deserved it"

Which *IS* the key problem here.

DT faggots thinking their bad behavior is always justified.
Yet not when it's a noob account showing up you just negged.
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No I dont escrow anymore.
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I know you didnt explicitly say you would, but I still would have expected you to honor my request.



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This is just another example of Quickseller being a hypocrite - do as I say, not as I do.   Undecided

Please stay on topic. Id very much like to know what you think of Laudas actions though.

We all know that extertion is a crime sir. But IMHO we all know that he don't need money and just do that for purpose of gathering evidence, that's why he decided to get some witness before starting that plan. The only mistakes he committed was, he used the wrong way of gathering information, And i think it deserves a punishment because it is obviously a crime no matter how good the purpose is. But a negative trust is too much for his act, just saying sir. He is still a trustful person for me.

Dont take this personally, but I was asking Vod directly.[1] I am also interested in other opinions from DT.

To your point though, where would you draw the line? When do you start questioning whether the user you considered trustworthy in the past might have changed to a degree where you can no longer trust them? I dont think Lauda recently turned from a good person to an evil one.[2] Whether or not I would still trust Lauda with an significant amount of coins, I dont know, but this is true for most people here. I try to avoid having to trust others. What I am certain of is that to me an extortion (or more correct blackmail) should not be considered acceptable here or anywhere else no matter the circumstances. Due to my position on the default trust network I can raise awareness and hand out a punishment with a negative rating and I do.

What I also dont know is, how I should see the inaction of others in similar positions. Do they not care? Are they fine with it? in general? just in this case? why (not)? Should I see the rating[3] by Vod as an endorsement for extortion or is just Lauda exempt (this time only)?

[1] ... and made them aware via PM.
[2] In fact I dont think people are either good or bad, they are always on a scale somewhere in between.
[3] "Moderates forum with a level head. One of the few remaining assets to this forum!"
Were these questions rhetorical, and/or have you managed to answer them yourself?

No and no. I have an answer from Vod.
sr. member
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Is it personal war, or what?

Someone is missing topic of this thread...

Edit: and option that it can be organised criminal group..
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Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies.
If you can give me verifiable information that proves involvement beyond Lauda/TMAN then I can possibly pay a bounty.

Unless you are willing to put that coin into a real (non-QS-alt) escrow, I doubt anyone will take you seriously.  I don't.
Sent Vod a PM asking if he will act as escrow for my bounty. I received no response.

I suspect that Vod is trying to deter members from providing information confirming who is involved in this extortion scheme, and preventing justice from being served. I am willing to change my mind if new facts come to light.

If you wish, I am willing to pre-fund any bounty payment into escrow to the escrow provider of the informant's choice, provided that the escrow is sufficiently trusted by myself. Information should primarily be given with the intent of bringing appropriate justice, and doing what is right!

You could always ask quickseller to be to escrow...

Just look in the mirror...  Roll Eyes
Tha question thet keeps me tossin' an' turnin' at night is whetha' Quickseller's ambition is ta one day be on all 3 sides of an escrowed deal.  Stranga' thangs in life have happent. 

Imma incorrectly para-phrase mah recently diseased brotha Rodney King.  Cain't we all jist git along up in here?  Y'all is like a buncha kinna-gardners tryin' ta rip each otha's hair off.  Sommebody gon' lose an eyebrow if'n this keep up.
Hi Huge Black Woman, I like what your going at here but we can't all get along if the police is beating up on us and then all four getting sentenced as non-guilty. In most cases, once you give away the little thing that is trust you will regret it, trust is a mother fucker.

Most homies are just phonies.
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If you can give me verifiable information that proves involvement beyond Lauda/TMAN then I can possibly pay a bounty.

Unless you are willing to put that coin into a real (non-QS-alt) escrow, I doubt anyone will take you seriously.  I don't.
Sent Vod a PM asking if he will act as escrow for my bounty. I received no response.

I suspect that Vod is trying to deter members from providing information confirming who is involved in this extortion scheme, and preventing justice from being served. I am willing to change my mind if new facts come to light.

If you wish, I am willing to pre-fund any bounty payment into escrow to the escrow provider of the informant's choice, provided that the escrow is sufficiently trusted by myself. Information should primarily be given with the intent of bringing appropriate justice, and doing what is right!

You could always ask quickseller to be to escrow...

Just look in the mirror...  Roll Eyes
Tha question thet keeps me tossin' an' turnin' at night is whetha' Quickseller's ambition is ta one day be on all 3 sides of an escrowed deal.  Stranga' thangs in life have happent. 

Imma incorrectly para-phrase mah recently diseased brotha Rodney King.  Cain't we all jist git along up in here?  Y'all is like a buncha kinna-gardners tryin' ta rip each otha's hair off.  Sommebody gon' lose an eyebrow if'n this keep up.
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