Topic: Lauda/TMAN/minifrij/IronMarvel2/owlcatz extortion attempt - page 15. (Read 48752 times)

no i live in a safe area buddy - but its all about face where I am...  big house, big gates, armed guards..  something keyboard warriors like QS who still lives in his mums basement wouldn't know about..

and admittedly I have a potty mouth - but nothing you have said has deserved a barrage of abuse, QS gets off on trying to annoy people and standing up for his lover OG.. I just enjoy pointing out how wrong he is.

This guy has quite a number of Reddit Upvote arrows on his roof. How awesome is that? 

Oh only 1 f and not directed at me.  Just some mention of guns n bullet proof stuff, got some arrows on a roof. 

Damn must be a High crime area I'd rather move than live in a prison.  Some protection and couple of night vision cameras are good enough for me and I'm near Detroit and I think we were once the Murder Capital.

Hope you find a safer place.  Gammon is a great game.

(I really gotta get going soon, I'll be here for an hr then return later)

LOL you "taking the bait" I see there is a Tman post (haven't read it would rather address as it comes) but yea I expected that and posted it Sorry if you feel it's bait but that's not my intent.  

I'm trying as best as I can to focus on points.  I will elaborate on why you are lumped in.  Even as an observer.  Let me tell you why:  In the law, let's say there are 3 people who plan to rob a bank.  1 doesn't go along.  The other 2 rob the bank.  All 3 are guilty of robbery.  YET, IF the 1 that didn't go along had contacted the authorities to let them know the bank was gonna get robbed, forehand. THEN that 1 is free from the robbery.  BUT not free from the conspiracy. <----------that's why I lump you in with them.

I don't dislike or like you.  I don't know or care how QS feels.  He does make good points and that is what I am following the points.  Again, you are saying you were enforcing rules.  I would need to see some kinda transcript about that.  Because as things have been stated, I see you being involved (see above example as to why)

What you do for the forum, ban evaders? etc.  I don't see why you would discontinue doing so.  Unless? I'm missing something about how what you do for the forum applies to this?

No you didn't ask me to shut my mouth nor did you bully me.  But you did say something like (sorry not feeling the quotes today) oh your knee deep in drama.  But I'm not involved in drama.  I don't see this as drama/nor the other issue.  These are some serious things, extortion and discrediting.  I'm not siding with good/bad, just because of "who" they are    Things are presented on this board.  

Using the ignore button.  That was just to let you know you don't have to hear/see/or anything about me.  You have the choice to do that.  I don't use the ignore either. I will ignore a post if it's just gonna run in circles, ex that guy I offered the Uber too.  Haven't been back cuz I told him a few times but he kept dancing  

IDK about their "agreement" in all honesty the "agreement" should not be accepted as such.  When you put someone under duress, some will cave in because they are scared.  Here the guy was extorted, threads and such were made, then things go silent and all is good? It's not there was a YOU pay X or IM gonna do Y and that's seriously fucked up no matter what spin anyone puts on this.

Now I guess I gotta see what Tman wrote   I hope I don't see fuck or cock in there

really? ok - want to have a wager?? everything I have typed above is correct and I can prove it....

if you can read the numbers and look up the manufacturer you will see these windows are rated to withstand fire from guns.



and does this look like a big fuck off wall in a big house?



now fuck off QS... some of us are successful outside of bitcoin - we arent all keyboard warriors like you.

I beg to differ and stated so.  The UK won't play and would take a look at extortion, whether or not the extortion was successful or not doesn't matter. You are either pregnant or not, notta maybe  

Oh well that's silly and a little disturbing.  I do believe that Zeroaxl was bullied.  I doubt he is totally innocent of things.  Nonetheless, being extorted is messed up.  And yes illegal in jurisdictions like the UK & USA.  Not familiar with other countries like Croatia, Albania, etc.  I would think they have laws against that too.    

I find all of this unlikely to be true. At least anything that has any relevance.

backgammon all day long.

What's your favorite board game?

Wrong.... I live in Central Europe now, in a country where it is legal to own a fire arm. I live in a compound with 10ft high walls and bullet proof windows,  my inside leg mesurement is 32" and I prefer my women to have large chests, I like my Steak blue, prefer English mustard over Dijon and Red wine over white..

anything else you want to know about me?

Don't hold your breath. I'm usually the only one dumb enough to take the bait.

I know you didn't. That's why I told you to.

It'd be really helpful if you could split up your posts to show what exactly you are replying to. I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

Relating to me, this thread is drama because Quickseller doesn't like me. If you read about my 'involvement', you can see that I wasn't at all related to the extortion and was simply trying to enforce forum rules. This is something I'll be sure not to do again. Ban evaders can run wild for all I care; I'm not risking my reputation to try and make this place better.

As I said, I couldn't care less about the drama between Og and others. I have my own gripes with Og that I may or may not address in the future, but relating to his treasurer status I am indifferent.

Cool? I don't believe I ever asked you to.

I believe I have only ever ignored one user on this board and that was only temporary. I can't say I intend to start now, especially with people expressing semi-valid opinions.

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Neither of these claims are accurate. TMAN no longer lives in the UK AFAIK, and he has never lived near Zepher.

Correct.

Not from my understanding. I was told that TMAN and Zeroxal had made an agreement and was requested to adhere to it.

Right. Unfortunately those within Lauda's "group" has demonstrated that it is not acceptable to question any of them.

TMAN lives in the UK, he apparently lives not far from Zepher (I would have to look up where exactly Zepher lives as I don't remember the address off the top of my head).

minifrij also lives in the UK, although not necessarily near TMAN. He is a young guy IIRC.

Lauda has ties to Croatia and lives in Europe. He has tried to keep his identity secret, however he has slipped up a couple of times. He somewhat tried to get theymos to delete his personal information from the forum's DB via Europes "right to be forgotten" laws/regulations, however theymos described the EU as the "EUSSR" (or something along those lines), and said that if he received a 'right to be forgotten' request he would promptly ignore it.

Are you referring to the extortion related threads? They were moved to the archives and locked where they have little visibility by the respective OP of each of the threads -- zeroaxl was bullied into also doing this.

I guess to expect the other 2 to come along as well  Don't recall looking at your profile, if I did, I would of stated where you were from. It's not just in these two threads either.  When someone starts pushing their "friends" "associates" "suggestion" or "opinion" ya they get lumped in.  You don't have the luxury of saying I'm on the sidelines   sidelines is not an observer it is an active participant although sitting

I don't need to report anyone.  But that guy should of.  I have reported 2 PayPal thingy's.

I don't consider it drama.  I consider this an Extortion.  The other thread is just another attempt at getting to OG.  Both of these things are wrong.  I'm not going to shut my mouth or get "bullied" wrong Joe Bro

BTW there is an ignore button you don't have to see/read/whatever I got to say.  

Edit:  Question:  Who is the mod that trashed the posts?

I'm guessing you mean the OgNasty thread. In regards to that, Lauda and I like to keep up to date on current forum events. I couldn't give a fuck about the current situation between TMAN and OgNasty (or whoever else is involved), which you can see if you read my post.

Almost like we enjoy posting here. I'm truly glad that people would like to ruin that simply because I associate myself with select groups of people.

TMAN isn't. No idea about Lauda, but I also suspect not.

I'm assuming you mean me. Look on my profile.

In addition, this offer isn't just open to 8xbt:

I have one alt that I have noted myself publicly with 3 posts on it.

Seems to me, judging by your last posts, you're knee deep in some drama. Whatever floats your boat.

Thanks for the bump!  I forgot about this.

Doesn't surprise me.  I find it ironic those same 3 stooges Lauda/TMAN/minifrij are in the other thread.

Telling someone to pay you X or your gonna do X.........is extortion

It's not a "investigation" it's notta "sting" its and EXTORTION

Glad the guy didn't pay but wonder why he gave up his info?

Some people get scared easy.  Those 3 and other's in that group sure do like to pack on the posts 

He should of called the feds/interpol himself....Tman, and Lauda I HIGHLY suspect  are not in the usa.  Likely in countries where "authorities" ride on donkeys............no wonder so brave   Can't say much for the last stooge.

I'll add that to their list of FAILED scam attempts.  They seem to be running the gamut lately.......oh the Alt's 

Question:  Who is the mod that trashed the posts?

I'm sure ya'll got some drama, I'm not in that.  Just leaving my 2 cents.

That's quite a lot of makeup you've got in that there handbag of yours madam... Makes quite a thumping sound when you drop to your knees.

http://archive.is/VayrN#selection-1851.0-1851.5

I'll be honest with you, I don't agree that Lauda has done very much to benefit the community. It is my opinion that Lauda has been trying to gain additional power, is power hungry, and is attempting profit personally from his power. I acknowledge that this does not help my case, but that is okay because it is the truth.

To answer your question more broadly, yes I would give someone who I believed to have helped the community in the past more of a benefit of the doubt. I also would be willing to argue a lesser "punishment" for this kind of person to a certain degree, although I would say that the punishment that Lauda has received is not appropriate for someone who has greatly helped the community (again, I don't think Lauda meets that criteria).  

I don't think the fact that Lauda sent a demand for payment from zeroaxl is in dispute. It is my understanding that it is not disputed that Lauda sent a message along the lines of "you need to send me BTC or else..." and this kind of message makes any benefit of the doubt given to be disregarded as this would meet the criteria of an extortion attempt.

I would also question how exactly Lauda's activity might have brought someone shady into the open. If my memory serves me correctly, zeroaxl had told me via PM that he was accused of a very wide range of shady behavior, from tax evasion to the hacking of bitfinex. I don't think this fact has been disputed, but I also don't think it has been out in the open in a way so that it could be disputed. I would say that if this is true, it would remove credibility that Lauda was trying to "bring light to shady behavior"  

Well you are lucky to be in that kind of marriage/relationship with your wife. I think it is fair to acknowledge that not everyone benefits from your situation, and that a good number of people would be inclined to pay, even if they have done nothing wrong.

Maybe a better example would be Lauda showing you evidence that causes you to believe that he can cause an in-person IRS audit, and he demands $100 worth of BTC, or else he will cause you to get an in-person IRS audit. Even if you have filed/paid your taxes properly your whole life, the time spent taking off work, and the stress of an audit is probably worth more than $100. If I were to receive that kind of extortion demand, I would not pay, and if anyone asked me for my opinion, I would tell them not to pay, however I think that a lot of people would probably pay this kind of extortion demand (sadly). I guess my point is more that there are reasons why someone might pay an extortion payment even if they have done nothing morally wrong (let alone illegal).

edit: here is a quote from a PM that I received

So, does this mean that anyone that speaks fluent English is from a predominantly English speaking country? Being fluent in a language - to any extent - isn't a reliable method of gauging where someone is from.

Regardless, as sbogovac said:

Because I don't feel that they deserve all of the negative attention that they are receiving.

If you want me to be an alt, then nothing I could say or do would change your mind. For the record however, no.

I guess this is more of an "how is that (Lauda being Croatian, or not) relevant here (Lauda [...] extortion attempt)...