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September 23, 2023, 08:46:54 AM
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Well, one of the best financial education tips is to never lend money for occasions like this, such as playing in casinos, for your own pleasure, it is good to get into debt but for other things that require more money, for example, closing a business, making an investment, buying a machine, maybe pay the payroll of a company, that's how much someone can go into debt to borrow money, well I wouldn't say anything if it's to invest in Bitcoin, but otherwise I don't see the right thing to do to lend money and play in a casino , or lend to play in a casino, and although there is a possibility that you can multiply it, it is a huge risk, I think it is a very difficult process to do it because if you lose, where is the ability to pay? unless you leave something pawned, that's what I consider to be things like that, otherwise I don't think that a method to play and lend money is okay, it's very reckless to do so, there are people that I've seen that here in the forum have several threads where they say that there are casino agents who allow the loan of money, of credit in a casino, but I consider that this must be for very well selected people because in the first place they have to be well-known, we cannot grant loans to people who We do not know if Relida has the money to be able to respond, and secondly, not everyone should be eligible for the loan because we do not know what their financial life is like and for the company, the casino, we do not know if it is profitable or not to do this type of activities.

A loan with collateral is the only logical thing I see that can be done in a casino, I see it as something very natural, but I don't see it as correct that something like this can be done for any type of clients, even so the clients who are most trustworthy for A casino can take a while to pay a debt and that shows a casino's disagreement with working with that type of system, so sometimes for pleasure it is better to have the money and not start inventing by making loans.
Borrowing money to gamble is not a good reason, but we have seen many cases where people borrow money from friends. They don't think about what will happen to them if they lose and how to return the money. And even though the borrowed money will be used to invest in bitcoin, they also have to consider paying the money back because that's what they have to do when they borrow money. Apart from that, they also have to think about how long they have to return their money because investing in bitcoin takes time, and we don't know when the price of bitcoin will increase. So they must think more about all the possibilities and prepare the money to repay the loan.

Loans with collateral are normal when we want to borrow, and we must be aware that if we cannot repay the loan, our collateral will be taken by the lender. We can't protest because that's the agreement, but maybe we can get the collateral back when we already have the money, which must be written in the agreement. So it's better not to borrow money from anyone, especially for gambling because it will be riskier for us. After all, we don't know when we can win.
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September 23, 2023, 03:33:06 AM
What you said is a very good decision and if a gambler slowly turns to his family if add option I believe he will have no more gambling in his life and he will arrange his life in a very nice way.
Well, that is if the family in question are the type that cares, this is me speaking from experience as I myself come from a family that give absolutely no shit about me or my well being, and this is because my late dad married alot of wives, my mom who is also late gave birth to just me and my younger sister, so my step siblings are all after themselves and careless about me nor my sister..

So assuming someone from such a family gets addicted to gambling, turning to such a family is a pure waste of time, because they may never have that time to care for you.

So for me, if assuming I am addicted to gambling which I thank God am not, if it's something that have gone past the level of me helping myself, I did turn myself in for medical help, or professional help, which ever is recommended aside family.
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September 23, 2023, 03:15:41 AM
Of course sir your decision is right that's why you reduce gambling slowly it is good for your body and what is good for your family and your son's future is very bright and you can spend your life happily in the days you live in the country Gambling is an addictive game  A man's life is gradually ruined and he is left as a gambler on the streets. No one can profit from gambling. He may be a millionaire for a while and a millionaire. One day he will become a faqir. I saw my father become a faqir by gambling.  I don't like gambling. Gambling is a bad love.



Everyone please pray for me that I don't get addicted to this gambling game.

Don't start it, then there's nothing to worry about.
Initially, you will enjoy it until it becomes more intense and you want to play more. Then, there will be a point that it becomes a revenge game where you want to chase all your losses including from the past weeks or months ago. Being a gambler means you hate losing and you are expecting that the RTP would help out to bring all your money back but that's not how online gambling works. You lose now, you lose it forever, you win now, it's up to you if you want out or keep on risking it.
This is the reason why many are getting addicted to it, it's either because of greed wanting more profits, or you want revenge from the online casino and pay all your losses which is impossible to happen unless you gamble more.
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September 22, 2023, 07:01:40 PM
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Some people start to borrow the funds and make this as the habit.Borrowing the funds is not the wrong thing,but making it as the habit was the wrong one.Because the money you are going to use for the gambling.So the returns from the gambling is not the confirm one,the profit based on the probability of steps followed by the gamblers.If the gamblers use the money on business,he can handle the money and return the money to the borrower.The gambling based on your luck,So no one knows the today luck.The borrowing in the gambling is not highly recommended one.
You are right because borrowing funds to gamble will only put them in trouble, especially if they don't have the money to repay the borrowed money. Gambling with borrowed money will pose a greater risk than using your own money because we don't know when we will win, but we can lose all the money, so we can't pay the borrowed money. If we win, we can pay the loan, but this is gambling where the chances of us winning are not big. And if we lose in gambling where we bet all the money, we will be confused about how we can pay the loan. So it's better not to borrow money from anyone just to gamble. That is highly not recommended.
Well, one of the best financial education tips is to never lend money for occasions like this, such as playing in casinos, for your own pleasure, it is good to get into debt but for other things that require more money, for example, closing a business, making an investment, buying a machine, maybe pay the payroll of a company, that's how much someone can go into debt to borrow money, well I wouldn't say anything if it's to invest in Bitcoin, but otherwise I don't see the right thing to do to lend money and play in a casino , or lend to play in a casino, and although there is a possibility that you can multiply it, it is a huge risk, I think it is a very difficult process to do it because if you lose, where is the ability to pay? unless you leave something pawned, that's what I consider to be things like that, otherwise I don't think that a method to play and lend money is okay, it's very reckless to do so, there are people that I've seen that here in the forum have several threads where they say that there are casino agents who allow the loan of money, of credit in a casino, but I consider that this must be for very well selected people because in the first place they have to be well-known, we cannot grant loans to people who We do not know if Relida has the money to be able to respond, and secondly, not everyone should be eligible for the loan because we do not know what their financial life is like and for the company, the casino, we do not know if it is profitable or not to do this type of activities.

A loan with collateral is the only logical thing I see that can be done in a casino, I see it as something very natural, but I don't see it as correct that something like this can be done for any type of clients, even so the clients who are most trustworthy for A casino can take a while to pay a debt and that shows a casino's disagreement with working with that type of system, so sometimes for pleasure it is better to have the money and not start inventing by making loans.
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September 22, 2023, 06:51:34 PM
I want to ask those of you who have a hard addiction experience in gambling and then you can treat it yourself, and today still playing gambling but with the principle of good management and financial management in gambling.
Don’t know if am qualified as I have at no point considers myself an addict to gambling but, you could be rest assured I came pretty close to that lane.
I mean, you view gambling for some means of making easy cash from small stakes in the accumulator bet options and then, you end up loosing time after time and keep believing that your pay is forth coming. It doesn’t matter how long or how many years of gambling it takes uou. After all, there are always a few persons hitting the jackpot. Such promotional strategies to instill hope but, you’ve got to wake up to yourself and realize when it’s time to slow down.

Judging by the fact that, we have categories of gamblers to be whale bettors, those whom are in between that as some high stake gamblers and those who are right there at the bottom of it all.

I’ll speak of the bottom and my advice would be,
Get a job or some stable means of income and build you live around your pay. It’s a hard to archive with constant inflation but, you could try and keeping adjusting to fit in. It helps in fighting addiction.
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September 22, 2023, 06:43:05 PM
Of course sir your decision is right that's why you reduce gambling slowly it is good for your body and what is good for your family and your son's future is very bright and you can spend your life happily in the days you live in the country Gambling is an addictive game  A man's life is gradually ruined and he is left as a gambler on the streets. No one can profit from gambling. He may be a millionaire for a while and a millionaire. One day he will become a faqir. I saw my father become a faqir by gambling.  I don't like gambling. Gambling is a bad love.

Everyone please pray for me that I don't get addicted to this gambling game.
We can pray for you too, but you also have the desire not to be addicted to gambling because, without each person's desire, they might still gamble. You can also reduce your gambling time and money so that you don't stay in the casino for too long and can avoid the desire to win more. And everything can only be done if someone desires and actions. Otherwise, it will be difficult to do, and the person will just fall into gambling without being able to reduce his gambling time. There is a possibility that he will also develop a gambling addiction. So everything will come back to you because you will make that choice, and it is about how strongly you want to do it.
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September 22, 2023, 04:50:01 PM
Once your gambling habit graduates into addiction it's time to take a break totally from it and find something else to take your time, you could probably gat a job or get a new hobby that take your time so much that you will have little to no time to gamble, but then very importantly is to totally abstain for a while, that way you can work on curbing your addiction.

Secondly if you must come back to gambling again after a long while of abstaining, you should apply some money management principles so as to help you not spend all your money gamble and when you loose it becomes a problem to you, such money management skill could include you assigning a certain amount of money you would want to spend monthly on gambling.

It's could be 5-10% of your income or even less but it shouldn't exceed this as anything above this could become a problem when you encounter losses. Lastly draw a schedule as to how much time you want to spend on the casino daily or gambling sites or whichever form of it as the case may be, make sure not to exceed your daily scheduled time so as to keep you in check and know when you are gradually going out of control.
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September 22, 2023, 04:23:55 PM
You have another option to stop gambling. You spend more time with your family and travel with your family.  And you will not be much interested in gambling and drinking and if you do this I believe your future will be very good and you will be able to get out of these two bad habits please try them and you will surely succeed after success this small Give a thank you to sister. 🙏

This is for all those who are addicted to gambling please everyone quit gambling look at your son or your father come back to good path your future will be very bright. 🥰


I want to learn a lot from you. Please keep me with you and let me learn a lot so that I can say in the future that some brothers helped me a lot because of this I am here today and I will honor you all my life. 🤌🤝👩‍💻

I would have to agree that family is one of the best option for gamblers to at least see and learn how to prioritized things. Specially if you have kids, you will have to think that you need to bring food in the table for them.
Hence, you can't just gamble all that money, and then go home while they are waiting for you.
At least for my case, it happened as well, when I will just play almost everyday in a landbase casinos, some days you win, some days you lose.
But at the end of the day, you will have to go home and see your family, and so you will have to change for the better and stop or at least lessen my gambling addiction back then.
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September 22, 2023, 04:23:27 PM
This what exactly my thought when I started earning from my work but as time went by my income increased and still yet that habit of spending all still was already stipulated in my nature and I always have the funny thought that the weekend is always a right time to atleast double some of the funds I actually want to save up because that's the time alot of games are being played in almost all the football league so me picking some games which can give me some tangible earning won't be difficult but latter was the case so I had to device to other means and try and stop the habits because like you said it doesn't Lead you to a good end.
I solely depend on the primary stream, were I get my cash from, for no reason or excuse would I jeopardize this source, because there's numerous bills to clear. Concentrating on the particular sector of gambling that would generate income, making me to be pleased and ready to take gambling to the next level, not with desperation but with calculated risks and goals. Saving up would become more difficult but we have no option than to saved for the future. Learning from experience teaches us alot of things. We could be able to comprehend alot of things other than just sticking around and making little cash.
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September 22, 2023, 03:42:18 PM
You have another option to stop gambling. You spend more time with your family and travel with your family.  And you will not be much interested in gambling and drinking and if you do this I believe your future will be very good and you will be able to get out of these two bad habits please try them and you will surely succeed after success this small Give a thank you to sister.

This is for all those who are addicted to gambling please everyone quit gambling look at your son or your father come back to good path your future will be very bright.



I want to learn a lot from you. Please keep me with you and let me learn a lot so that I can say in the future that some brothers helped me a lot because of this I am here today and I will honor you all my life.
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September 22, 2023, 03:38:08 PM
Yes, the point is that whatever the type of addiction is basically the average addiction always leads us to something worse or even very bad, those who live dependently by utilizing loans will not be able to get progress in their lives and especially for some of those who like to spend money it is very clear that when one day they experience something unexpected and urgent that really needs money then they can't do anything except borrow again. I think saving money is a better thing to minimize the unexpected in the future.


I believe that even the habit of spending everything you managed to earn is a bad habit and will not lead to anything good. Yes, sometimes this is a necessary measure, because the income is too small to be able to save something, perhaps many have gone through such periods in life, but if you develop, then your level of income will grow, and in this case you need to make sure that save part of your income.

If you believe that you can make money in gambling, then allocate some part of your money and try, but credit money in gambling should be taboo.
This what exactly my thought when I started earning from my work but as time went by my income increased and still yet that habit of spending all still was already stipulated in my nature and I always have the funny thought that the weekend is always a right time to atleast double some of the funds I actually want to save up because that's the time alot of games are being played in almost all the football league so me picking some games which can give me some tangible earning won't be difficult but latter was the case so I had to device to other means and try and stop the habits because like you said it doesn't Lead you to a good end.
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September 22, 2023, 03:15:50 PM
When a person is addicted to gambling he falls under family stress and stress that's why I want to say gambling is not good for anyone that's why we all stay away from tide slowly we go far away then our future will be very good I have seen people who gamble  lost all his possessions after gambling and then he wants to commit suicide and he dies by suicide I am proof my elder brother dies by suicide that's why I want to say to all of you don't gamble it's a big risky game for your life  You stay away from this tide, your family will be happy, you will be happy, your future will be bright.
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September 21, 2023, 09:11:33 AM
I was not addicted to gambling but kept losing whenever I gambled. My family always urged me to stop gambling, and according to my thoughts, if you want to leave an addiction, you need to start another one as iron cuts iron. So I started drinking, and drinking a lot of alcohol stopped me from being a gambling addict as I had no senses left ever so I didn't gamble and lost my money in buying expensive whiskey bottles. Now, I'm not doing either of them as I stopped both these things.
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September 21, 2023, 09:05:26 AM
Initially it is quite difficult to change a serious addiction to gambling, someone can do it slowly by looking for other activities in their free time. Changing gambling habits can be done by making a list of monthly expenses for family needs. It is necessary to adjust income to expenses to change habits that absorb greater expenses. Financial management can change a person's habits that are considered addictive. A positive mindset by reducing desires in favor of prioritizing obligations will change a person's habits slowly.
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September 21, 2023, 08:41:10 AM
It seems to me that if a person has survived a severe gambling addiction but still plays with “good financial management,” then he is simply deceiving himself. Any financial management in gambling leads to loss, that is, financial losses still continue, plus there is always the possibility of a return to a severe form of addiction.
It seems to me that if a person realizes the harmfulness of what he is doing, then he should completely get rid of it.

Maybe from the various facts that people who have experienced serious addiction then recover and have good financial management afterwards, that is very rare, and as you say has great potential to return to gambling madness, that is also true.
But I don't think that's the case if his principles of managing money and gambling awareness are very strong after recovery, it will probably work out fine.
At least when ambition flares up in him due to annoyance, there are limits that he remembers beforehand that make him stop for a moment and let calm surround his thoughts, that can still be worked on, sir.

Let’s say a person has iron discipline, but still, why bother with the past? I don’t think that he will experience those old emotions (insane ones must be assumed if they harmed him). Why play for money at all if you don’t play “like before” and don’t experience those emotions? Then it would be right to install a casino emulator on your PC and play completely free of charge.
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September 21, 2023, 07:42:05 AM
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Some people start to borrow the funds and make this as the habit.Borrowing the funds is not the wrong thing,but making it as the habit was the wrong one.Because the money you are going to use for the gambling.So the returns from the gambling is not the confirm one,the profit based on the probability of steps followed by the gamblers.If the gamblers use the money on business,he can handle the money and return the money to the borrower.The gambling based on your luck,So no one knows the today luck.The borrowing in the gambling is not highly recommended one.
You are right because borrowing funds to gamble will only put them in trouble, especially if they don't have the money to repay the borrowed money. Gambling with borrowed money will pose a greater risk than using your own money because we don't know when we will win, but we can lose all the money, so we can't pay the borrowed money. If we win, we can pay the loan, but this is gambling where the chances of us winning are not big. And if we lose in gambling where we bet all the money, we will be confused about how we can pay the loan. So it's better not to borrow money from anyone just to gamble. That is highly not recommended.
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September 21, 2023, 05:40:54 AM

Borrowing money for things other than gambling is okay because our needs may increase, so we run out of money. But if we use the money for gambling, we shouldn't need to borrow because that could cause problems for us. After all, if we only use gambling as entertainment, we will not always gamble and only occasionally. And we won't budget our money too often for gambling, so it's better to use it to meet our living needs. And, indeed, we should only use the money we can afford to gamble so that we don't lose too much money and still have money for other things. Or it's better if we just save the money for emergency needs.

Some people start to borrow the funds and make this as the habit.Borrowing the funds is not the wrong thing,but making it as the habit was the wrong one.Because the money you are going to use for the gambling.So the returns from the gambling is not the confirm one,the profit based on the probability of steps followed by the gamblers.If the gamblers use the money on business,he can handle the money and return the money to the borrower.The gambling based on your luck,So no one knows the today luck.The borrowing in the gambling is not highly recommended one.
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September 21, 2023, 05:37:59 AM
Well, let me speak about myself.
I was badly addicted in both gambling and trading (yeah I know this is gambling related thread so I'll only discuss my gambling journey).
I was a very consistent gambler with mixed results which actually never bothered me to quit gambling. I did great for around 2-3 years since 2013, but later on, I started losing a lot and even incurred a debt which later on, got bigger and bigger. However, I managed to repay it through gambling only but with some fixed amounts to gamble each week with, and a fixed % after which I used to withdraw immediately and repaid. This helped me gain my credibility back and I started meditating a lot, went out with friends and gave a lot of time to books so that I remain busy with something and don't feel like I should gamble. Later on, I've made myself stubborn enough to only gamble once a month and stopped doing it the way I used to do. I had goals and I can proudly say that I achieved them through decent gambling, not like an addicted one but as an average gambler.


        -  I was impressed by the experience, although it didn't lead to an addiction. Rarely have I seen a gambler overcome his addiction to the point where it nearly destroyed his own life and that of others. From what I saw based on your story, you really focused on trying to change your gambling addiction.

Usually, it is very difficult for addicted gamblers to overcome their addiction, but for you, because you are determined to change and eliminate the addiction that was formed by being a gambler, you were able to change it and eliminate it little by little, and it is amazing that you actually did. Because of that, I congratulate you for overcoming your addiction to gambling.
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September 21, 2023, 05:23:25 AM
Thus gamble only the money that you can live without. If you don't have excess money for gambling then forget about it and focus on how to improve your financial status. This way, you don't have to borrow money just because you're in short of funds for essential things.
And that's where many gamblers find themselves at fault. They gamble with the money that they can't live without and also when they don't have money but want to gamble, they push themselves and find a lot of ways they can just gamble. It is a very wrong move when you do that as a gambler and you're just adding the flame to the people who think that all gamblers are irresponsible and don't have a future. That's why that thought for gamblers never changes because of the kind of irresponsible gambler that makes it look even worse in the eyes of those non-gamblers. And in every side of it upon looking at it, never borrow money or ask for a loan just for you to gamble.
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September 21, 2023, 05:09:48 AM
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Use the money that you can afford to let go and not to exceed to the point that you will be needed to barrow just to please your gambling. If you practice, you are good at dealing with your gambling.

But if not, chances that you will overspend your money and the amount that you will barrow will be added
to your problem when you lose everything, it will be added to your obligation and will be deducted o supposedly
budget for you and for your family.
Yes, that means we have to be responsible for the gambling we do so that we don't experience more serious problems. By making a budget for gambling, at least we can keep gambling within certain limits so that we won't gamble excessively. By staying within these limits we can gamble comfortably and calmly and don't need to worry about gambling addiction. But if we lose self-control and even exceed the limits in gambling, we will experience problem after problem which may get worse in the future. We will have difficulty solving the problem if we don't want to return to the limits we have created and that is what will make us addicted to gambling. So it's also a good idea for us to learn from those who are experienced so we can gain more knowledge that will be useful for us.
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