Topic: Learning from those who have experience - page 7. (Read 2754 times)

It's logically and technically not possible for someone to keep earning an income from gambling and it has been proven millions of times throughout the history of gambling. One might get lucky and manage to get a big win someday, which might make them eligible to gamble for a lot of days without having to spend anything from their pocket, but eventually, it will run out, and then they will be back at spending their own money again for gambling.

When someone manages to win something significant, they need to save the most part and only use a small portion of it to try their luck again but if it doesn't work, they should just use the money that they've won on something more important in life that they needed or wanted to do but couldn't due to financial inabilities.

Use the money that you can afford to let go and not to exceed to the point that you will be needed to barrow just to please your gambling. If you practice, you are good at dealing with your gambling.

But if not, chances that you will overspend your money and the amount that you will barrow will be added
to your problem when you lose everything, it will be added to your obligation and will be deducted o supposedly
budget for you and for your family.

Maybe from the various facts that people who have experienced serious addiction then recover and have good financial management afterwards, that is very rare, and as you say has great potential to return to gambling madness, that is also true.
But I don't think that's the case if his principles of managing money and gambling awareness are very strong after recovery, it will probably work out fine.
At least when ambition flares up in him due to annoyance, there are limits that he remembers beforehand that make him stop for a moment and let calm surround his thoughts, that can still be worked on, sir.

It seems to me that if a person has survived a severe gambling addiction but still plays with “good financial management,” then he is simply deceiving himself. Any financial management in gambling leads to loss, that is, financial losses still continue, plus there is always the possibility of a return to a severe form of addiction.
It seems to me that if a person realizes the harmfulness of what he is doing, then he should completely get rid of it.

If someone believe they can make money in gambling then they should limit their expectations to never think that it would give them a progress in life because it would never give them that, regardless of how huge the winning amount is, when there is always an urge to go back to gambling, all these money you've won will drain down eventually.
I just realized that this is where some of the gambling addictions came from, as some gamblers think they could make a fortune one day when they hit their biggest jackpot. Well, it's sad to say gambling isn't designed to make someone reach other than the owner lol, gambling should always be treated as an entertainment.

Well, let me speak about myself.
I was badly addicted in both gambling and trading (yeah I know this is gambling related thread so I'll only discuss my gambling journey).
I was a very consistent gambler with mixed results which actually never bothered me to quit gambling. I did great for around 2-3 years since 2013, but later on, I started losing a lot and even incurred a debt which later on, got bigger and bigger. However, I managed to repay it through gambling only but with some fixed amounts to gamble each week with, and a fixed % after which I used to withdraw immediately and repaid. This helped me gain my credibility back and I started meditating a lot, went out with friends and gave a lot of time to books so that I remain busy with something and don't feel like I should gamble. Later on, I've made myself stubborn enough to only gamble once a month and stopped doing it the way I used to do. I had goals and I can proudly say that I achieved them through decent gambling, not like an addicted one but as an average gambler.

Ya benar seperti yang saya katakan di atas itu akan selalu menjadi kebiasaan yang buruk yang berdampak buruk, dimanapun anda melakukan kebiasaan itu, apalagi dalam sebuah perjudian yang memiliki dampak yang sangat buruk. Dan ya saya setuju dengan anda perihal menabung, saya benar - benar paham bahwa anda mendapatkan uang itu dari hasil kerja keras dari keringat anda dan yang lebih tidak masuk akalnya jika anda merelakan uang itu untuk berjudi di bandingkan untuk di simpan sebagai tabungan masa depan, dan jelas keterpurukan akan segera menghampiri anda suatu saat. Tetapi yah saya juga paham jika memang mereka memiliki pekerjaan yang tidak bisa menopang semua beban hidup anda dan secara tidak langsung wajar saja jika mereka sulit untuk menyisihkan sedikit uangnya untuk menabung. Tetapi benar ini bukan pilihan terakhir kawan, roda terus berputar dan saya yakin jika anda terus berusaha dengan bekerja keras maka pasti hidup anda akan bisa berkembang, hanya satu yang akan sedikit saya sarankan jangan sampai anda mencoba untuk terjun dalam perjudian karena jelas walaupun ada peluang menang tetapi tetap sistem kasino di buat untuk menguntungkan kasino bukan untuk penjudi dan kekalahan jelas akan selalu mendominasi.

Honestly I never thought that there are some of them who can make a consistent income in gambling, for the winnings maybe you can but it's only once or twice and if calculated then obviously still more of your losses, this is not an option to improve your finances.

Borrowing money for things other than gambling is okay because our needs may increase, so we run out of money. But if we use the money for gambling, we shouldn't need to borrow because that could cause problems for us. After all, if we only use gambling as entertainment, we will not always gamble and only occasionally. And we won't budget our money too often for gambling, so it's better to use it to meet our living needs. And, indeed, we should only use the money we can afford to gamble so that we don't lose too much money and still have money for other things. Or it's better if we just save the money for emergency needs.

Sometimes it's inevitable to borrow money because the salary is not sufficient for overall needs. That's understandable however let's not be used to it. If your income is not enough then do something to increase it but not through gambling. Gambling is not even an answer to double your money, you can lose it all instead.

Thus gamble only the money that you can live without. If you don't have excess money for gambling then forget about it and focus on how to improve your financial status. This way, you don't have to borrow money just because you're in short of funds for essential things.

I believe that even the habit of spending everything you managed to earn is a bad habit and will not lead to anything good. Yes, sometimes this is a necessary measure, because the income is too small to be able to save something, perhaps many have gone through such periods in life, but if you develop, then your level of income will grow, and in this case you need to make sure that save part of your income.

If you believe that you can make money in gambling, then allocate some part of your money and try, but credit money in gambling should be taboo.

I think that it is not addiction to credit or some psychological disease that forces a person to spend money all the time, rather it is a credit trap into which many people who do not have sufficient income and level of knowledge in the financial sphere fall. Credit addiction leads to the fact that at some point a person has to take out a new loan to pay off the old one. In my country there are organizations that give loans to the poor at 400% per annum. If the government of my country cared about its citizens, this would not be the case. The same illiterate people can easily afford to gamble with borrowed money.

Happening from other people wont really be an assured thing that it would really also happen on you and this is something that we should really be baring up into our minds because lots of factors wont really be that
be able to be completely copied and the one is luck on the time that you would really be making out such move or on something that you are watching and this is why outcome or results would really be totally
different to each other and this is something that you would really be needing to realize because making the same act and it shows different results would really be making out such impulsive emotion which is something that not must really be done because if you do find yourself that doing or being desperate then this would really be surely showing that it isnt really that right anymore because being desperate would
really be making possibly those things which you dont have done before like being that aggressive or really that desperate on the different level.

It's more better for us to make research well enough for us to know where and from whom to learn from, learning has both negative and positive impacts, if we think the experienced person we are going after to learn from has everything it takes to dispatch the level of the required standard we needed to know and have about gambling, then we can go for it, while learning we should also take note of their mistakes and avoid going through the same pattern, this is why we have to learn in other to avoid making mistakes.

I found other ways to make money or I directed myself to another area. I can say this in order to improve myself in something. I was a gambling addict at the time, but I play very little now, so I can say that I play for pleasure in a way. I can leave this completely, but sometimes I get bored and I want to play with a small amount. You need to determine your boredom or your source of income. When you focus yourself on something else, you get rid of it, so it's all in your brain. When you reprogram your brain, you don't even want to mess with gambling again.

I know a streamer who is watched by about 500 people online every day. This goes on for many years. In fact, we could learn all his actions and try to become just as successful, but we won't understand some situations no matter how hard we try.

There is such a thing as balancing the range at high limits. He can play the same situation differently with the same cards in his hands. He also has a contract for increased rakeback with the poker room where he plays. This is very important for greater profits. He also has donations from stream users. I want to say by this that it is extremely difficult to do all this, I think it is on the verge of superman. Only a few people will be able to earn money this way.

Yes, the point is that whatever the type of addiction is basically the average addiction always leads us to something worse or even very bad, those who live dependently by utilizing loans will not be able to get progress in their lives and especially for some of those who like to spend money it is very clear that when one day they experience something unexpected and urgent that really needs money then they can't do anything except borrow again. I think saving money is a better thing to minimize the unexpected in the future.

And yes it would be very dangerous if someone who has a habit of always spending the money they have then they get into gambling, obviously I can't imagine what will happen next. The borrowing habit will be even more uncontrollable because as we know the temptation of winning in gambling is very difficult to avoid, so before getting into gambling I think it's better for you to change that bad habit from now on, your money is very valuable, and you get it from your hard work, so be wiser.

It's okay for a gambler to copy professional players to learn what it takes to become a professional player. But often, a gambler loses the opportunity to learn because he often loses self-control even though self-control is one way to avoid possible problems. And they are only interested in the wins obtained by professional players without learning how they can remain calm and control their emotions.

That's why it's very difficult to become a professional gambler because it requires a lot of things, and they have to be learned one by one. And even though it takes a lot of time, that shouldn't be a barrier for a gambler to learn and master it. If they are successful, they will easily control themselves and know when to bet and when to stop gambling.

Some people have an addiction to loans, or perhaps it is an addiction to spending money, they constantly need to buy something, it is clear that the money will quickly run out and they will be obliged to take out even more loans. If such a person becomes addicted to gambling, then it will definitely become a very big problem, he will not stop when he runs out of money.

When I was gambling much, the only time I remember that I’m about to get addicted or have been addicted to gambling is when I gamble, my money has run out, and I still need another way to get money and gamble. However, the only thing I did that time was that I went to a friend to get advice about how to gamble too much because he has been telling me that I gamble a lot, but I wasn’t listening to him, so he now told me that what I should do is stop going around the casino shop anytime because by then I even don’t like to be gambling on my mobile phone. I usually go to the casino shop, so this guy told me that I should find something else that will keep me busy, which is work, and I should reduce how I follow my friends who are also gamblers.
And that is what I did, and till today I don’t gamble much like before. Now I gamble like twice a week, sometimes once a week, because by then it was out of hand and I couldn’t even control it.


You're funny, mate. You know, if you are not a gambler or addicted to it, you will see this money as very big or experiencing some difficulty using it to gamble, but for someone who is already addicted to gambling, definitely if they even have more than this money, they will still spend it on gambling. Although you are right, $300 is not small money; it will save many lives the way the economy is going right now, but gamblers or someone who is addicted to gambling don’t know that they are the only ones who derive pleasure.

However, $300 is more than what a public teacher is earning monthly in my country. Some teachers don’t even earn up to $150 when compared to my local currency, so you can see that this person needs help to get rid of this addiction; if not, he will definitely experience a hard time if he continues like this.


You are right, mate. As long as someone has money and is already addicted to it, they will definitely gamble, and if they don't, they will still find any means to get it and gamble. Even if they take a loan, it is not a big deal to them. And again, there are others who, if they are just newly addicted and their addiction hasn't gone a long way, will stop it immediately. They will continue when they have money, and when they notice that it's gambling, they will not even gamble again.

That's the way to go around it, as long as you have money available, you will keep gambling if you are addicted to it, and if you see that you don't have any money for it, you will most probably stop doing it and eventually get rid of the addiction. However, there are some people who will get into bad things once they run out of money if their addiction has reached a different height. They will look for ways that they can use to get some money only to continue gambling.

So, though what you said works for most people who don't have the courage to do illegal or unethical stuff for money, those who are daring and don't care about anything will go so deep in it that they will even kidnap people or rob them only to feed their gambling addiction and that is very much dangerous.