⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ - page 81.

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Quote from: giammangiato on December 07, 2023, 03:20:11 PM

Quote from: klidex on December 07, 2023, 01:36:43 AM

Yes, this is a very tough match for Napoli. Juventus has almost the same performance as Inter Milan this season, especially since this match will be held at Juventus' home. Napoli's chances of winning are very small. Mazzari must think of a good strategy to beat Juventus. Napoli must maintain defense. because the host club will definitely put a lot of pressure on Napoli in the next match. If in the end Napoli loses this match, Napoli will be quite far behind in the race for the title.

Mazzari's arrival happened to be under great pressure, he was forced to have a difficult debut because Napoli faced big clubs in the Italian league, Mazzari's presence has not had a completely positive impact but as time goes by Mazzari will be able to improve Napoli's performance, maybe not to win the title but to ensure Napoli did not experience a significant decline.

Ahhhhhh, so I am not the only one who thinks something like this, there are many who think that Napolis chances of winning are low.
At this time, in my opinion, the bookmarks made a totally wrong assessment. In fact I bet on Juventus to win.
And i think Juventus win easy, with this broken Napoli.

It must be said that bookmakers often lower the odds of the underdog to ski and mislead you, but I think that is not the case with this match, because Napoli are truly underdogs given the recent negative results, but who knows? maybe he'll play a trick on Juventus tonight. However, I too will bet on the winning Juventus who have a very good odds on the victory

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Quote from: babo on December 08, 2023, 02:43:49 AM

without a doubt it could be a very interesting match, but it is equally true that it is not easily predictable
Napoli could have a surge of pride and given that the quality material is there, they could even win
this is the reason why the bookmakers were cautious

Honestly, I think it is really unlikely that Napoli can win, ok they have some very strong players: I dont deny this
But in terms of morale, mood and pattern learning we are at low levels. Maybe in 2 months of the Mazzarri treatment I would agree with you, but not now.

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Quote from: babo on December 07, 2023, 06:03:11 AM

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To recover the lost ground we need to work for several months, Napoli cannot hope to win these matches, with first or second in the standings. Not to mention that Juventus don't play cups and have fresh and rested players.
Napoli must concentrate on easy matches, with the weaker teams. He must win them at all costs.
Nobody expects him to win with Inter or Juventus.

Yes, it even takes a season to recover that form and I think Juventus will be even stronger after Sancho arrival from the Premier League because this rumor seems very certain that Sancho will really come to Serie A while this player really has talent that good enough to build it Juventus maintains its position.
So it will be increasingly difficult for Napoli with the current situation, especially as Osimhen also rumored to be leaving Napoli and if all these rumors are true I think Napoli will find it difficult to get second place in the series A points table.

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without a doubt it could be a very interesting match, but it is equally true that it is not easily predictable
Napoli could have a surge of pride and given that the quality material is there, they could even win
this is the reason why the bookmakers were cautious

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Quote from: klidex on December 07, 2023, 01:36:43 AM

Yes, this is a very tough match for Napoli. Juventus has almost the same performance as Inter Milan this season, especially since this match will be held at Juventus' home. Napoli's chances of winning are very small. Mazzari must think of a good strategy to beat Juventus. Napoli must maintain defense. because the host club will definitely put a lot of pressure on Napoli in the next match. If in the end Napoli loses this match, Napoli will be quite far behind in the race for the title.

Mazzari's arrival happened to be under great pressure, he was forced to have a difficult debut because Napoli faced big clubs in the Italian league, Mazzari's presence has not had a completely positive impact but as time goes by Mazzari will be able to improve Napoli's performance, maybe not to win the title but to ensure Napoli did not experience a significant decline.

Ahhhhhh, so I am not the only one who thinks something like this, there are many who think that Napolis chances of winning are low.
At this time, in my opinion, the bookmarks made a totally wrong assessment. In fact I bet on Juventus to win.
And i think Juventus win easy, with this broken Napoli.

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Juventus - Napoli match can be quite an interesting one. Juventus are favoured of course but I'm not very confident about their winning anyway. Their most recent head-to-head matches haven't been in favour of Juventus. They couldn't defeat Napoli in their last 4 matches. Napoli were much better than this last season though but still we never know what happens in big matches.

Juventus are currently the best home team while it is the same for Napoli as for away matches. I think both teams to score would be likely to happen.

But when it comes to betting on a side I would bet on Juventus for the sake of their being better this season.

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Unfortunately, even today I still don't understand what the president has done, I don't understand the reason for angering a coach who brought you to the Scudetto after so many years and who had created a team that was a real tank and scored goals and scored points.
Meh
I don't think Napoli will recover, many more years will pass

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Quote from: bots1 on December 07, 2023, 02:05:23 AM

This season, Napoli's performance is not as good as previous seasons, Napoli lost more often when playing at home. Even though they have changed coaches, Napoli's performance remains unchanged. This season, Napoli's defeats seem to have become commonplace when playing at home.

Obviously this season is different from last season because they have been in less than favorable conditions since the start of the season.
They lost more often and even had pretty bad position and fired Rudi Garcia, who was replaced by Mazzarri with the aim of improving the quality of play for this season, but he failed.
There is no hope for Napoli to achieve achievements like last season and now they can only improve from the start to be able to perform better in the future.
The upcoming transfer window is an opportunity for Napoli to have more quality players from the front line because relying too much on Osimhen is not enough.

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When playing at home, Napoli have lost five times and have only won twice. However, when playing away from home, Napoli are very strong and they have even recorded seven away wins this season. If Napoli does not immediately improve, not only will they not be able to compete for the title but Napoli is in danger of not qualifying for the Champions League next season.

That why it can happen and home games should be an advantage for them, as is done by other teams who can optimize their play in every home game.
For this season, at least, Napoli must be able to have safe position in obtaining UCL tickets because that way Napoli can be more active in making improvements next season because they are aware that the UCL is difficult competition and there are very strong opponents.

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Quote from: tusandii on December 07, 2023, 02:48:10 AM

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Napoli are in trouble, Walter Mazzarri is working but it's not easy to fix when everything is in pieces and Inter are really, really strong.

New coaches always have time problems to combine strategies with players and other problems Mazzarri must understand the character of each player, while Aurelio De Laurentiis puts pressure on the new coach to immediately improve Napoli's performance and I think trying to replace this coach will worsen Napoli's temporary situation but in my opinion don't know.
This means that Juventus' match against Napoli shows that Juventus will win when Napoli is adapting to the new strategy given by the new coach.
Juventus odds are very large and very tempting.

To recover the lost ground we need to work for several months, Napoli cannot hope to win these matches, with first or second in the standings. Not to mention that Juventus don't play cups and have fresh and rested players.
Napoli must concentrate on easy matches, with the weaker teams. He must win them at all costs.
Nobody expects him to win with Inter or Juventus.

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Quote from: Strongkored on December 07, 2023, 04:36:48 AM

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This season, Napoli's performance is not as good as previous seasons, Napoli lost more often when playing at home. Even though they have changed coaches, Napoli's performance remains unchanged. This season, Napoli's defeats seem to have become commonplace when playing at home.

When playing at home, Napoli have lost five times and have only won twice. However, when playing away from home, Napoli are very strong and they have even recorded seven away wins this season. If Napoli does not immediately improve, not only will they not be able to compete for the title but Napoli is in danger of not qualifying for the Champions League next season.

Can we blame Walter Mazzarri? Of course not because he has only at this club a few games as a coach, while the problems experienced by Napoli are already quite difficult to resolve quickly, so in any case, Napoli will need time to see their team progress, maybe until the middle of the season or even that won't happen in the season.
This means the club has to be realistic with its targets, defending the title is no longer possible so they just need to finish in the top four or at least the European zone and if that is achieved then that will be good enough while thinking about keeping their best players to stay at Napoli and achieve even better next season, but unfortunately, there are very few teams other than the big three, namely Juventus, Milan and Inter who can win several times in a decade, because these three teams always dominates Serie A.

@Strongkored the entire blame lies on the board for failing to run this club properly because had they been wise they wouldn’t have parted with a title winning coach and wouldn’t have made a joke of their star striker. Furthermore the coach can only do so much but clearly the player’s are short on motivation and confidence and unless the coach can fix it I doubt that we’ll see any major positive results from Napoli.

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Quote from: bots1 on December 07, 2023, 02:05:23 AM

This season, Napoli's performance is not as good as previous seasons, Napoli lost more often when playing at home. Even though they have changed coaches, Napoli's performance remains unchanged. This season, Napoli's defeats seem to have become commonplace when playing at home.

When playing at home, Napoli have lost five times and have only won twice. However, when playing away from home, Napoli are very strong and they have even recorded seven away wins this season. If Napoli does not immediately improve, not only will they not be able to compete for the title but Napoli is in danger of not qualifying for the Champions League next season.

Can we blame Walter Mazzarri? Of course not because he has only at this club a few games as a coach, while the problems experienced by Napoli are already quite difficult to resolve quickly, so in any case, Napoli will need time to see their team progress, maybe until the middle of the season or even that won't happen in the season.
This means the club has to be realistic with its targets, defending the title is no longer possible so they just need to finish in the top four or at least the European zone and if that is achieved then that will be good enough while thinking about keeping their best players to stay at Napoli and achieve even better next season, but unfortunately, there are very few teams other than the big three, namely Juventus, Milan and Inter who can win several times in a decade, because these three teams always dominates Serie A.

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Quote from: babo on December 05, 2023, 07:57:19 AM

Quote from: tusandii on December 05, 2023, 05:49:04 AM

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Napoli are in trouble, Walter Mazzarri is working but it's not easy to fix when everything is in pieces and Inter are really, really strong.

New coaches always have time problems to combine strategies with players and other problems Mazzarri must understand the character of each player, while Aurelio De Laurentiis puts pressure on the new coach to immediately improve Napoli's performance and I think trying to replace this coach will worsen Napoli's temporary situation but in my opinion don't know.
This means that Juventus' match against Napoli shows that Juventus will win when Napoli is adapting to the new strategy given by the new coach.
Juventus odds are very large and very tempting.

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This season, Napoli's performance is not as good as previous seasons, Napoli lost more often when playing at home. Even though they have changed coaches, Napoli's performance remains unchanged. This season, Napoli's defeats seem to have become commonplace when playing at home.

When playing at home, Napoli have lost five times and have only won twice. However, when playing away from home, Napoli are very strong and they have even recorded seven away wins this season. If Napoli does not immediately improve, not only will they not be able to compete for the title but Napoli is in danger of not qualifying for the Champions League next season.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 05, 2023, 02:28:11 PM

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napoli's situation could worsen in the next 2 games, this friday napoli will play against juventus who currently occupies second place, this will be the second big test for napoli, the first big test was in the game against inter and Napoli lost without being able to score a goal and conceded 3 goals, it was a very humiliating defeat that they suffered in the game against Inter and this Friday they will play against Juventus who have a good defense and when they played against Inter the game was a draw. which means that juventus is at the same high level as inter, while napoli last season had difficulties to beat juventus, they only managed to score just 1 goal

If we take this into consideration and we see that this season they changed coach and are not as strong as last season, then I see that they will have a lot of difficulties in this game to come out with a good result and after this game against Juventus, they will play against Roma who are in position 4 and have a good squad that can come away with a good result from the game against Napoli, that is, in the next 2 games Napoli could lose 6 points if they don't beat Juventus, and then they don't win to as rome. but napoli can also benefit if roma lose a lot in the next games because they will be very difficult games

Yes, this is a very tough match for Napoli. Juventus has almost the same performance as Inter Milan this season, especially since this match will be held at Juventus' home. Napoli's chances of winning are very small. Mazzari must think of a good strategy to beat Juventus. Napoli must maintain defense. because the host club will definitely put a lot of pressure on Napoli in the next match. If in the end Napoli loses this match, Napoli will be quite far behind in the race for the title.

Mazzari's arrival happened to be under great pressure, he was forced to have a difficult debut because Napoli faced big clubs in the Italian league, Mazzari's presence has not had a completely positive impact but as time goes by Mazzari will be able to improve Napoli's performance, maybe not to win the title but to ensure Napoli did not experience a significant decline.

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Quote from: arimamib on December 06, 2023, 11:32:12 AM

At the moment, Juventus is a better team than Napoli. But This is more on Napoli having struggling phase which makes them need to change the coach. They havent found their rhythm as they were used to have last season. The observation that Napoli tends to struggle to maintain their performance throughout the entire 90 minutes, especially in the second half, is crucial. Juventus, being a strong team, often capitalizes on such opportunities to win. Your focus on Juventus winning the match aligns with your assessment of their overall superiority.

I will expect a good game game from these teams which have an element of excitement, and as a football fan, it's natural to hope for an engaging and competitive game. Regardless of the outcome, the Joy of football game always leaves room for surprises. It will indeed be interesting to see how Napoli's evolving style of play matches up against the established strength of Juventus.

exactly Juventus is superior to Napoli at the moment, but we forget that Napoli are the reigning Italian champion team, and sooner or later they will have to reverse this negative trend that they have achieved so far. I believe we will see a great match, I mean and engaging even for those who are not fans of these two teams

Quote from: giammangiato on December 06, 2023, 12:33:08 PM

I also think like you, dear Lillominato89: Napoli is improving but we are still far from having a consistent and worrying performance for my Juventus. I would say fortunately.
A year ago I wouldnt have spoken this way, but today with Juventus in form I think we can win. Cheesy

As an Inter fan I would be more interested in Napoli winning, but as a football fan I say let the best win and for the moment I would say that Juventus are better than Napoli. if Juventus were to win I believe that until the end there will be a head-to-head between Juventus and Inter for the title of Italian champion, I don't see Milan as strong enough to get back into the running for the title

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Juventus are indeed a much better team than Napoli at the moment. In only one season they have changed roles in the league. In the previous season you know how the situation was. Napoli were a dominating team but there is nothing left of that performance from now on. They are just a team trying to hold onto top 4 right now. On the other hand Juventus have made a lot of progress. Allegri was criticized a lot after their previous season performance. If he continued the same this season then I think he would have got sacked.

But now they are one of top title contenders. As long as they keep this up until the end of the season I don't see any reason for Allegri to say goodbye to Juventus.

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on December 05, 2023, 04:34:03 PM

you are right, the Juventus vs Napoli match will not be easy at all for them, you have made a more than fair comparison, but I don't know if they will actually be able to win against Juventus because they are a team that on paper is clearly better than Napoli, but how I said before, Napoli is improving in the game proposed, we saw it against Real Madrid and against Inter in the first half, unfortunately they are unable to hold up for the entire 90 minutes of play and unfortunately Juventus punishes very often in the second half. I hope to see a good match though! I think I will focus on Juventus winning this match

I also think like you, dear Lillominato89: Napoli is improving but we are still far from having a consistent and worrying performance for my Juventus. I would say fortunately.
A year ago I wouldnt have spoken this way, but today with Juventus in form I think we can win. Cheesy

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on December 05, 2023, 04:34:03 PM

the Juventus vs Napoli match will not be easy at all for them, you have made a more than fair comparison, but I don't know if they will actually be able to win against Juventus because they are a team that on paper is clearly better than Napoli, but how I said before, Napoli is improving in the game proposed, we saw it against Real Madrid and against Inter in the first half, unfortunately they are unable to hold up for the entire 90 minutes of play and unfortunately Juventus punishes very often in the second half. I hope to see a good match though! I think I will focus on Juventus winning this match

At the moment, Juventus is a better team than Napoli. But This is more on Napoli having struggling phase which makes them need to change the coach. They havent found their rhythm as they were used to have last season. The observation that Napoli tends to struggle to maintain their performance throughout the entire 90 minutes, especially in the second half, is crucial. Juventus, being a strong team, often capitalizes on such opportunities to win. Your focus on Juventus winning the match aligns with your assessment of their overall superiority.

I will expect a good game game from these teams which have an element of excitement, and as a football fan, it's natural to hope for an engaging and competitive game. Regardless of the outcome, the Joy of football game always leaves room for surprises. It will indeed be interesting to see how Napoli's evolving style of play matches up against the established strength of Juventus.

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when we have doubts about a match we must always use the bookmakers' yardstick
I use it and it works
bookmarkers do not like to lose money, so their assessments are objective and objective and often very precise
the bookmakers say Juventus will win, so...

Juventus have more change to win

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Quote from: giammangiato on December 05, 2023, 02:20:11 PM

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After Napoli's failure to be defeated by Inter, they were humiliated at home, will Napoli experience the same thing this weekend when they play against Juventus?
Meanwhile, Juventus is currently in a very stable condition and looks very strong to be able to reach first place in the points table and I would guess that Juventus will win by a narrow score.
What about your predictions about Juventus who will play Napoli?
Also this weekend it is certain that Inter will get 3 points from Udinese.

I dont want to sound bad, but if they lost against Inter who drew against Juventus, I dont see much chance for Napoli to win. Napoli must not hope to win against these two teams, they must win the other matches, the ones with clearly weaker teams. You shouldnt get those wrong, Napoli need to win other games, these 2 games is very hard

you are right, the Juventus vs Napoli match will not be easy at all for them, you have made a more than fair comparison, but I don't know if they will actually be able to win against Juventus because they are a team that on paper is clearly better than Napoli, but how I said before, Napoli is improving in the game proposed, we saw it against Real Madrid and against Inter in the first half, unfortunately they are unable to hold up for the entire 90 minutes of play and unfortunately Juventus punishes very often in the second half. I hope to see a good match though! I think I will focus on Juventus winning this match

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