⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ - page 87.

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Quote from: bastisisca on November 17, 2023, 10:50:11 AM

Quote from: borovichok on November 16, 2023, 02:21:09 PM

Empoli stunned everyone by winning 1-0 against a top-tier team like Napoli. This was the one of the reason the Parthenopeans president, Aurelio de Laurentiis and the board relieved Rudi Garcia from his position as headcoach. No one expected Empoli to win because they are fighting to avoid relegation this season. due to the fact that no team is impenetrable in tournaments, all teams will lose. They can strive equally challenging as they can to balance the scores and hit higher than expected, but they can still complete an unbeaten streak.

Honestly and with all the sincerity of which I am capable, I would never have bet a euro on Empoli. Not only is the difference in strength of the roster of players different and not comparable, but also the difference in club, coach and management. They are really two teams of different sizes, it`s like David defeating Goliath.

Let's say that no gambler would have ever thought of betting on Empoli's victory against Napoli at the Maradona stadium, perhaps just someone who wanted to try his luck and it went really well for him. Nonetheless, football is like this, the strongest doesn't always win, I remember 2 years ago when Real Madrid lost against Sheriff Tyraspol at the Bernabeu, the comparison could hold up as a type of comparison. a former coach of mine when I was playing also always said "the ball is round and you never know where it will end up" to say that if you play intelligently you can beat even the strongest

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on November 17, 2023, 07:37:32 AM

Quote from: babo on November 17, 2023, 02:49:32 AM

Unfortunately, predicting Napoli's matches is now really complicated, really difficult.
We have to wait at least until the end of the year to see if the new coach can fix something and make the team more consistent in its results.
Of course, winning the championship first and arriving like this the following season, let's say that there are clear faults on the president's part.

Indeed it is really difficult to predict what Napoli can do even in simple games on paper. Sad

One of my betslips lost just because of Napoli and I will have second thoughts before betting on them next time. The Empoli game must have made so many bettors lose also. Anyway honestly I would like to see Napoli doing better than this.

Considering what they did last season the expectations might have increased by the supporters. But they will need to be very patient this season. Because clearly especially Inter - Juventus duo will be very assertive for the Serie A title. Even if Napoli leave the other teams behind it is pretty hard for them to keep up with those 2 teams for now.

I am one of the bettors who will exclude Napoli from including it in my betting slip because even though the coach will be replaced, I will find it very difficult to trust the new coach because to bring Napoli to a higher level, a coach must really understand the character of the players and one side of the coach also have to unite your chemistry to be able to provide the right strategy and this all takes quite a long time.
It will be difficult to get consistent wins like last season after Spalletti left Napoli will continue to get worse before getting an experienced coach.

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Quote from: giammangiato on November 17, 2023, 08:33:07 AM

In the end Antonio Conte was actually contacted, he thought about it and refused.
I was really sorry about this, I dont understand why, it was a great opportunity both for him and for Napoli.
I dont understand the reason for the refusal.
However, now the old coach who has done so much is back and he is certainly a good choice.

Let's see how things will go about Napoli's management. For now Rudi Garcia's future is ambiguous naturally. He has come back to the Serie A after 7 years. At least he has experience with a big team like Roma here so maybe he would get better with Napoli in time as well. I know it is too much to ask from them to have a similar season to the previous one of course. But as long as they are a part of the title challenge this season it should be okay for Rudi Garcia to keep his job for another season as well.

In the other case he might say goodbye to his job earlier than he expected.

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Quote from: borovichok on November 16, 2023, 02:21:09 PM

Empoli stunned everyone by winning 1-0 against a top-tier team like Napoli. This was the one of the reason the Parthenopeans president, Aurelio de Laurentiis and the board relieved Rudi Garcia from his position as headcoach. No one expected Empoli to win because they are fighting to avoid relegation this season. due to the fact that no team is impenetrable in tournaments, all teams will lose. They can strive equally challenging as they can to balance the scores and hit higher than expected, but they can still complete an unbeaten streak.

Honestly and with all the sincerity of which I am capable, I would never have bet a euro on Empoli. Not only is the difference in strength of the roster of players different and not comparable, but also the difference in club, coach and management. They are really two teams of different sizes, it`s like David defeating Goliath.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on November 16, 2023, 01:58:33 PM

Quote from: giammangiato on November 16, 2023, 01:31:07 PM

I would add that Napoli are in negotiations with the great Antonio Conte for next season: I would say an excellent choice. A coach who also did well at Inter and then left because he didnt agree (so a sign of character, he could have stayed and stolen his salary, but instead he decided to end an unhealthy relationship)
Lets hope the president of Napoli doesnt do anything stupid.
Cheesy

Antonio Conte has great memories in the Serie A especially with Juventus in the past. Because he has got most of his achievements with Juventus in his career so far. 3 Serie A championships and 2 Italian Super Cup titles.

Plus they won the Serie A title with Inter as well in the 2020/2021 season. It is like he really belongs with this league and top teams of it. But he has never managed Napoli before. Because of that I can't be sure of anything about the result of it.

I just want to believe that he would find a way to create a strong bond with the players and the board to make this team competitive for the league championship regularly.

In the end Antonio Conte was actually contacted, he thought about it and refused.
I was really sorry about this, I dont understand why, it was a great opportunity both for him and for Napoli.
I dont understand the reason for the refusal.
However, now the old coach who has done so much is back and he is certainly a good choice.

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Quote from: babo on November 17, 2023, 02:49:32 AM

Unfortunately, predicting Napoli's matches is now really complicated, really difficult.
We have to wait at least until the end of the year to see if the new coach can fix something and make the team more consistent in its results.
Of course, winning the championship first and arriving like this the following season, let's say that there are clear faults on the president's part.

Indeed it is really difficult to predict what Napoli can do even in simple games on paper. Sad

One of my betslips lost just because of Napoli and I will have second thoughts before betting on them next time. The Empoli game must have made so many bettors lose also. Anyway honestly I would like to see Napoli doing better than this.

Considering what they did last season the expectations might have increased by the supporters. But they will need to be very patient this season. Because clearly especially Inter - Juventus duo will be very assertive for the Serie A title. Even if Napoli leave the other teams behind it is pretty hard for them to keep up with those 2 teams for now.

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Unfortunately, predicting Napoli's matches is now really complicated, really difficult.
We have to wait at least until the end of the year to see if the new coach can fix something and make the team more consistent in its results.
Of course, winning the championship first and arriving like this the following season, let's say that there are clear faults on the president's part.

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Quote from: RaltcoinsB on November 15, 2023, 11:42:30 AM

Napoli's defeat was a really big surprise. No one, but me, expected this defeat against Empoli and on their own field. I guess no one placed a bet on Empoli's win, but if anyone did, they had a great odds. Congratulations to Empoli, I hope they can beat other teams like this again.

Empoli stunned everyone by winning 1-0 against a top-tier team like Napoli. This was the one of the reason the Parthenopeans president, Aurelio de Laurentiis and the board relieved Rudi Garcia from his position as headcoach. No one expected Empoli to win because they are fighting to avoid relegation this season. due to the fact that no team is impenetrable in tournaments, all teams will lose. They can strive equally challenging as they can to balance the scores and hit higher than expected, but they can still complete an unbeaten streak.

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Quote from: giammangiato on November 16, 2023, 01:31:07 PM

I would add that Napoli are in negotiations with the great Antonio Conte for next season: I would say an excellent choice. A coach who also did well at Inter and then left because he didnt agree (so a sign of character, he could have stayed and stolen his salary, but instead he decided to end an unhealthy relationship)
Lets hope the president of Napoli doesnt do anything stupid.
Cheesy

Antonio Conte has great memories in the Serie A especially with Juventus in the past. Because he has got most of his achievements with Juventus in his career so far. 3 Serie A championships and 2 Italian Super Cup titles.

Plus they won the Serie A title with Inter as well in the 2020/2021 season. It is like he really belongs with this league and top teams of it. But he has never managed Napoli before. Because of that I can't be sure of anything about the result of it.

I just want to believe that he would find a way to create a strong bond with the players and the board to make this team competitive for the league championship regularly.

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Quote from: RaltcoinsB on November 15, 2023, 11:42:30 AM

Napoli's defeat was a really big surprise. No one, but me, expected this defeat against Empoli and on their own field. I guess no one placed a bet on Empoli's win, but if anyone did, they had a great odds. Congratulations to Empoli, I hope they can beat other teams like this again.

I would add that Napoli are in negotiations with the great Antonio Conte for next season: I would say an excellent choice. A coach who also did well at Inter and then left because he didnt agree (so a sign of character, he could have stayed and stolen his salary, but instead he decided to end an unhealthy relationship)
Lets hope the president of Napoli doesnt do anything stupid.
Cheesy

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Quote from: RaltcoinsB on November 15, 2023, 11:42:30 AM

Quote from: Lillominato89 on November 13, 2023, 10:28:47 AM

Quote from: giammangiato on November 13, 2023, 08:53:12 AM

Quote from: Lillominato89 on November 11, 2023, 05:27:56 PM

@giammangiato I'm sorry my friend but Milan played a bad joke on us this afternoon, yet they started off great but the 0-2 wasn't wide enough to give them the victory, actually thanks to VAR they didn't lose at the last minute. eh nothing even simple bets are not friends every now and then

look dont talk to me about it, now I have stopped hating your Inter and I have started hating Napoli and Milan, really how do you do it: yet they are great teams, how can you get such poor results
and the players who take the millions, arent they ashamed of stealing the money?

I'm really pleased that Inter is no longer your most hated team Grin

honestly, I didn't even expect Napoli to lose at home against a team fighting not to be relegated like Empoli, but small teams are often bad I'm joking, I'll go back to saying that Napoli would do very well if they fired their coach, the game proposed is often among the poorest in Europe and Napoli had accustomed us to something else. As for Milan, I don't know what to say, they start well matches but then disappears from the field and in the last four Serie A matches they have achieved 2 draws and 2 defeats, only 2 points are too few and they were lucky to still be third in Serie A

Napoli's defeat was a really big surprise. No one, but me, expected this defeat against Empoli and on their own field. I guess no one placed a bet on Empoli's win, but if anyone did, they had a great odds. Congratulations to Empoli, I hope they can beat other teams like this again.

Both me I was surprised the way the match went because considering Napoli good performance nobody would believe they will lose against Empoli because the match was supposed to be a win match for them because we can never compare there both performance because Napoli is far better in times of good squad.

That match was like the Manchester City and Chelsea match that everyone was hoping Manchester City will win but at the end it was draw, so that's exactly what happened to the Napoli match because so many persons placed a bet for Napoli to win but unknowing that the match will end that way.

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Quote from: piebeyb on November 15, 2023, 05:33:09 AM

Quote from: arimamib on November 13, 2023, 09:10:12 AM

but I dont think that sacking Rudi Garcia is a good idea, because that would put Napoli in the same situation again. They need improvement, not starting a new idea that doesnt guarantee them to be better than current form.

Yes, because it's impossible to build a better club in a short time, well, even though Napoli got a great coach from Rudi Garcia, it definitely took a lot longer, I know maybe many Napoli fans are disappointed after seeing Napoli perform this season, maybe not better like last season, not only because of Rudi Garcia's mistakes but also perhaps because the players in the current main squad are not as complete as last season.

Bringing together players with different tactics and strategies from the previous coach will certainly make Napoli players have to start adapting again to the new strategy from their new coach Rudi Garcia, this season of course there is still plenty of time to catch up and improve everything and just give Rudi Garcia time to fix it and it also all comes back to a matter of time.

Before I made a reply here I said in the same thread and I'm sure several people have also said this that the current mistake or bad situation experienced by Napoli is not only because Garcia failed to make Napoli stronger but Napoli has lost enthusiasm because of Victor Osimhen as The player who has made the biggest contribution at Napoli and is considered the best scorer, this player suffered an injury and also started to lose comfort after problems occurred with his own club, so it is natural that Napoli current performance cannot be like last time and indeed the coach plays an important role, but also Garcia for I don't have the talent to take Napoli to a higher level.

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Quote from: babo on November 16, 2023, 03:04:37 AM

here's the news of the moment
Rudi Garcia fired
Mazzarri as a replacement to finish the championship and who knows after that, we don't know who could come

this is big news for Napoli, in the end Garcia wasn't up to par, better change because he doing more damage

It's right to change coach for Napoli but honestly I see it as more of a mistake to have hired Mazzarri, I'm not enthusiastic about this change of coach but it's just my feeling. I believe he will act as a ferryman until the end of the championship and it will be really difficult to see Napoli fighting to win the championship. Rudi Garcia certainly flopped big time

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here's the news of the moment
Rudi Garcia fired
Mazzarri as a replacement to finish the championship and who knows after that, we don't know who could come

this is big news for Napoli, in the end Garcia wasn't up to par, better change because he doing more damage

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Quote from: Slow death on November 13, 2023, 12:40:15 PM

as expected from inter, they managed to win in the game against frosinone, it was a game in which inter came as the favorite while the one that came from a sequence of 3 consecutive victories and was leading the series A and needed a victory to continue in the leadership of series A, while in the case of frosinone they came to this game with mixed results, being that in the last 4 games they had 2 wins and 2 defeats and in this game they found themselves in a situation where it would be very difficult to win, probably in the At most they could get a draw, strange that a few rounds ago I remember that Frosinoni was performing well

but strangely they are falling a lot and at this rate we will see them fighting with the teams that are in the relegation zone, I sincerely hope that I am wrong about this, but seeing them having this unstable performance then they will reach the level of being competing with the teams the relegation zone. returning to inter with this victory they manage to stay at the top, but they will have to win all the remaining games because juventus is very close to them and a mistake from inter would make juventus stay at the top and start to distance themselves

I have to admit that Inter are playing with a lot of continuity and with consistent performances, I dont recognize it at all!!

However, they were very easy matches, simple to play against a team like Frosinone.

Lets see how he behaves when he faces the second in the standings, that is, a real team that can give him a hard time. Cheesy

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on November 13, 2023, 10:28:47 AM

Quote from: giammangiato on November 13, 2023, 08:53:12 AM

Quote from: Lillominato89 on November 11, 2023, 05:27:56 PM

@giammangiato I'm sorry my friend but Milan played a bad joke on us this afternoon, yet they started off great but the 0-2 wasn't wide enough to give them the victory, actually thanks to VAR they didn't lose at the last minute. eh nothing even simple bets are not friends every now and then

look dont talk to me about it, now I have stopped hating your Inter and I have started hating Napoli and Milan, really how do you do it: yet they are great teams, how can you get such poor results
and the players who take the millions, arent they ashamed of stealing the money?

I'm really pleased that Inter is no longer your most hated team Grin

honestly, I didn't even expect Napoli to lose at home against a team fighting not to be relegated like Empoli, but small teams are often bad I'm joking, I'll go back to saying that Napoli would do very well if they fired their coach, the game proposed is often among the poorest in Europe and Napoli had accustomed us to something else. As for Milan, I don't know what to say, they start well matches but then disappears from the field and in the last four Serie A matches they have achieved 2 draws and 2 defeats, only 2 points are too few and they were lucky to still be third in Serie A

Napoli's defeat was a really big surprise. No one, but me, expected this defeat against Empoli and on their own field. I guess no one placed a bet on Empoli's win, but if anyone did, they had a great odds. Congratulations to Empoli, I hope they can beat other teams like this again.

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Quote from: piebeyb on November 15, 2023, 05:33:09 AM

Quote from: arimamib on November 13, 2023, 09:10:12 AM

but I dont think that sacking Rudi Garcia is a good idea, because that would put Napoli in the same situation again. They need improvement, not starting a new idea that doesnt guarantee them to be better than current form.

Yes, because it's impossible to build a better club in a short time, well, even though Napoli got a great coach from Rudi Garcia, it definitely took a lot longer, I know maybe many Napoli fans are disappointed after seeing Napoli perform this season, maybe not better like last season, not only because of Rudi Garcia's mistakes but also perhaps because the players in the current main squad are not as complete as last season.

Bringing together players with different tactics and strategies from the previous coach will certainly make Napoli players have to start adapting again to the new strategy from their new coach Rudi Garcia, this season of course there is still plenty of time to catch up and improve everything and just give Rudi Garcia time to fix it and it also all comes back to a matter of time.

Understandable that Napoli fans are disappointed with their team's performance this season if we compare their performance to last season's impressive run to the Scudetto title. But, it's important to remember that winning the Scudetto is an incredibly difficult to achieve, so then it's not realistic to expect Napoli to do so every opportunity. It's also worth to note that Napoli has lost some key players in the transfer window, and it can take time for new players to gel with the team.

Despite these challenges, Napoli are still a tough team with a lot of talent. They are currently 4th on the table, and they are still in contention for every competition. There is still plenty of reasons to be optimistic about the future and they are still capable of competing at the top.

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Quote from: arimamib on November 13, 2023, 09:10:12 AM

but I dont think that sacking Rudi Garcia is a good idea, because that would put Napoli in the same situation again. They need improvement, not starting a new idea that doesnt guarantee them to be better than current form.

Yes, because it's impossible to build a better club in a short time, well, even though Napoli got a great coach from Rudi Garcia, it definitely took a lot longer, I know maybe many Napoli fans are disappointed after seeing Napoli perform this season, maybe not better like last season, not only because of Rudi Garcia's mistakes but also perhaps because the players in the current main squad are not as complete as last season.

Bringing together players with different tactics and strategies from the previous coach will certainly make Napoli players have to start adapting again to the new strategy from their new coach Rudi Garcia, this season of course there is still plenty of time to catch up and improve everything and just give Rudi Garcia time to fix it and it also all comes back to a matter of time.

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on November 13, 2023, 01:59:44 PM

With this victory, which was also predictable, Inter have regained the lead of the table and are back at +2 on Juventus, but now there are breaks for the national teams and after the break there will be the Italian derby between Juventus vs Inter, a very important match in Italy and could redefine the top of the table or Inter could extend their lead over second in the table. Juventus are very solid in defense but struggle to score goals, while Inter, in addition to having the best defense, also has the best attack, I think we will take part in a great match on 26/11

At the moment Inter's trend seems to be the same as Napoli's trend last year (now gone and prey to the convulsions and booing of the fans).
I believe it is a favorable year for Inter and that they can easily take the title. I honestly don't know if I would focus more on the Champions League or the championship.

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By the way did you see that penalty call by the referee in the Inter - Frosinone match? It must be a joke I mean. Grin

Thuram literally tried everything there to get that penalty. There wasn't actually any foul there. Even VAR didn't check it or called it penalty after a check. It is really a huge mistake while you have technology for this to make sure whether there is really a foul. Sad

Bad referees are like everywhere this season. I have been criticizing the English Premier League referees and now I see this. It is really sad.

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