Topic: Legendary one day? (Read 103093 times)

OP is neither too much active nowadays nor he is trying to hunt merits, jk.
He made this awesome thread before the merit system was introduced. At present we can see some interesting threads but most of those are objective, kinda merit beggars.

You seem like a bit of a pessimist, Master of Shitcoins.

Upon superficial glance of your post history, you do seem to have a fairly decent post history and that you have made a decent amount of substantive contributions to the forum, even with few posts.

Regarding comparing yourself to OP or saying what may or may not have happened to OP, that comes off as something resembling either crying over spilled milk or just being bitter about someone earning status (rank) under previous rules...

I will concede that OP has not earned very many merits since the introduction of this new merit system, but really who gives a ratt's ass? 

As long as OP does not do anything really stupid (in the sense of forum rules, banning or suspension blah blah blah), s/he/it is going to retain his/her/its rank forever and ever and ever, and unless the forum rules change dramatically, OP can also be a lazy ass non contributor and NOT earn one more merit and still retain his/her/its rank forever and ever and ever...

In sum, OP has been grandfathered into his/her/its, legendary rank and in the end, that point is largely irrelevant in terms of conditions that are necessary for any forum members who either joined the forum after the implementation of the merit system or who was already a member of the forum without first earning or having airdropped sufficient merits for ranking up to legendary status at the time of the implementation of the merit system.

I would imagine that if you surpass the 1030 (high end of the range) activity level of the algorithm, then as soon as you reach 1000 merits, you will rank up.   After you surpass 1030, petition the forum to become a test case... (otherwise known as merit begging with a pretext   - -----   

hahahahaha.. just kidding.  I don't endorse merit begging, even if it is of the subtle sort.  If you are really interested in ranking up to legendary (and you conclude that it matters to you) (admittedly going from hero to legendary seems to have become the most challenging), I do endorse, considering various creative ways to contribute to the forum to attract members to want to merit your posts.  There are a few very high merit earning members who could serve as emulation models.. and even though it still seems likely to take (you specifically, bitart) longer than it would have taken, you still may be able to engage in posting conduct that could cause you to rank up within a year or two (others have shown that but concededly it may be that some of those high merit earners are especially talented beyond mere mortal capabilities, perhaps?). 

Honestly, if OP wouldn't have been Legendary before introduction of merit this would be almost impossible today. Since January he received 7 merits and I think this amount is above the avarage merit received per user. there are many having only 0, 1 or 2.
Merit is still distributed only in low numbers.

This means if merit is not pouring on you, you'll easily reach the required 1030 activity or even more while you will still waiting for the merits to come, so in the end nowdays the algo is not important at all... (unless you already have the 1000 merits, airdropped or earned)

No but now you need 1000 merit along with the activity requirements.

I don't know what algo are you talking about. If it is for rank, I think it's still same as it was back in the day. The only requirement which had been added to the system is merit.

Is the algo different now?

What is OP supposed to do? 

Seems that the forum algorithm is the same as it has been through the past years, and only time to worry about A-Bolt would be if his activity were to go over 1030 and if he still had not been ranked up to Legendary.  Right?   

The current activity of A-Bolt is still below 1030, so such level is still within the parameters of the algorithm about randomly when he is ranked up to Legendary.

@OP
Can you please update your list by listing  A-Bolt
He is hanging with Hero membership on 1021 activities.

Personally, I wonder if some of the information/disinformation battles within the crypto space are coming from the same newer forum members battling to become Jr. Members (and surely within some of the higher ranks too), with such exaggerations about what is actually going on?   

You know bitcoin is broken/dead, and we are going to be having alt projects (aka bitcoin 2.0, 3.0 and 4.0) flippening, rippling, cashening, dashening, and/or ICOpening?  Soon ^tm in order to remedy the bitcoin grandpa calamity situation.   Also, Legendary members don't deserve to be Legendary because they got their rank for free.. blah blah blah.

Just don't panic As long as there's no merit mentioned in the subject of the topic, they won't show up here
Anyway, according to my understanding, they (newbies) could start a topic like 'Jr. Member one day?' because now, after the merit system it's harder to become a Jr. than it was to become a Legendary before the merit system...

Nah, I just want to stop the merit discussion there before random members join the party and start whining about how merit broke their lives 

Seems to me that we are largely on topic, because there are new requirements that are present in order to aspire to becoming Legendary some day, and that is the system of merits and whether regular mortal members are going to be able to rank up to Legendary in similar time frames as they were able to previously, or how much they might have to bust their butts (or otherwise to be exceptional in order to be able to aspire to achieving such rank, which includes passing through the various levels to become Legendary).  Sufficiently on topic in my humble bumble point of view in order to post in this thread (even though such topic of merit is beaten up in a lot of other threads, too, especially in recent times (as you seem to be implying with your suggestion that we might arguably be off topic, here).

I am reflecting on what might have informed the OP back in 2015. Now, whatever would have caused the waiting is by the way. You are now a legendary. Congratulations! But a lesson l learnt is that time heals. Keep doing the right thing and it will come.

Boys stay on topic please. I can understand someone dreaming about becoming a junior member one day and made an off-topic post here or created a new topic to celebrate but talking about merit here isn't kewl.

To break down further base on post quality you need to perform some kind of qualitative analysis, selecting enough random users from each segment and looking through their posts. That would be awesome, but a hell of a lot of (subjective) work.

I did actually do the exercise with and without the date filter (but over the same 240 days accounted for), and the segments differed in both scenarios by a few decimals. To do the exercise with the newer arrivals properly though, they would need to be pondered by the amount of days they have been in the system (i.e. if someone joined a month ago, then his merits should be divided by 30 days, not 240). I could get on to that at some point and share the results, along with merit per post which may be interesting, although with some limitation (see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.46147847)).

1 Merit per day would be the equivalent I figure of the pace that needs to match the activity, and together enable a ranking-up at the same pace as before the Merit System.

The total (non date capped) amount of people that have received at least 1 sMerit is 21.235.
If we go with @Vods definition of active user (logged-in within the last three months), there are 330.600 active users. Now in the same last 3 month window, there are 7.153 distinct users that have been merited. That is 2,11% of the current active users as per @Vods definition. In reality, the figure should be less since it would be better to count those that log and post..

Hey.  Thanks DdmrDdmr for a "reality" based break down.

It would be nice to see those same kinds of break downs considering posting quantity level of the member, as well, such as if a member has an average post rate of .1 posts per day or greater.  

I am not really opposed to filtering out based on join date; however, with the passage of time, there could be greater needs to consider categories of membership based on time, such as "been a member greater than 6 months" or something like that.

My rough understanding of activity level is that each member gains the maximum of activity (14 points) if s/he posts at least 1 time in the at-issue activity period, so long as s/he has an overall average post rate of at least 1 post per day.  Accordingly, I was presuming that under the new implemented merit system, a member would need to average around 1 merit per day in order to rank up at the same rate that s/he would have ranked up under the old pre-merit system.  Am I in the ballpark, or out in left field?

By the way, when I see the numbers that you posted there, I see that the number of merited posters seems to be fairly low, even accounting for an average of .1 merits per day average or greater, still showing only in the 10% of users range while presuming that we are only looking at posters who are active enough to at least earn one merit during the period.  The Pareto principle, if it might possibly be applicable here, would at least presume a way of filtering the results in such a way to get to 20%.

The accumulation of merit is not that important to me. What is important is gaining a feel for the community opinion of my actions. Merit is one way to judge this, what is probably better is constructive comments, especially if that allow me to modify my actions or opinins.

The average of all merited users is as follows:
I’ve taken into consideration only accounts that have been merited, and that were created <= 24/01/2018, so as not to calculate a different base for every user that joined the forum after the Merit System kick-off . To calculate the average, I’ve considered the total earned sMerits divided by 240 (eight of the nine running months, so as to give some holiday time).

Note: Its a rough initial aproximation that does not take into account activity or number of posts in that period of time.