Topic: Lemon - defaulted loan - page 3. (Read 18675 times)
Lemon, Are you still reading this? Any plans on refunding?
I'm actually interested in this situation. I'm especially curious to see if any legal avenues against Lemon turn out better than the ones against me. XD
But I thought you never did anything wrong? 
Of course not! I'm as legit as they come.
Poor guy. Has a "heart attack" and people stalk him. That's messed up.
Are you suggesting Lemon basically lifted a scam idea from an episode of Only Fools & Horses?
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For anyone who missed out on the fun while it lasted (on IRC), here's the summary.
..., ninja/black belt in everything, US army trained, designed and built the UK faster payment system, was the first man on the moon, has met absolutely any important person or celebrity you might care to name, etc, etc...
For 27, quite a list of accomplishments. For those of you inspired by Lemon's successes in life and wanting to be more like him, remember that you can't change overnight; set yourself some more modest goals, or you'll only disappoint yourself. May I suggest you would-be Lemons:
- finish something you've solicited money for (alternatively: promise somebody a refund, and then actually pay it --- even to just one person)
- deliver on an ambitious target or promise (alternatively: fail to deliver, but be honest about why; certainly don't fabricate car accidents, car trouble, family problems, illness, muggings, unexpected visits from in-laws, inexplicable-yet-repeated communications outages or any other dog-ate-my-homework-type patheticness)
- repay someone, anyone, some money you borrowed from them (alternatively: be honest and communicative and say you're not going to be able to, and/or repay what you can)
- be modest about your achievements (alternatively: make barely credible claims matching your amazing achievements, but back them up with something falsifiable/verifiable)
- watch Shattered Glass to see what happens to, and how the rest of the world sees, the types of people who fail to achieve any of these things
- be honest enough with yourself to accept that you may have a problem and seek help for it
I'm actually interested in this situation. I'm especially curious to see if any legal avenues against Lemon turn out better than the ones against me. XD
But I thought you never did anything wrong?
I'm actually interested in this situation. I'm especially curious to see if any legal avenues against Lemon turn out better than the ones against me. XD
So, Lemon...
Where are we now with ref to return of funds or allocation of Bitcoin?
I think we've given you quite enough time. I don't *really* want to go down the legal avenue but I guess with all things considered it might be the only method of getting some funds back.
I guess if you want to pursue the legal route you'd need to give me your valid address - a PM is fine, of course.
Being a Solictor/Lawyer I think you'll understand that a mail forwarding address isn't really appropriate as I would be sending all correspondence as signed for. Audit trail and all that, eh?
Where are we now with ref to return of funds or allocation of Bitcoin?
I think we've given you quite enough time. I don't *really* want to go down the legal avenue but I guess with all things considered it might be the only method of getting some funds back.
I guess if you want to pursue the legal route you'd need to give me your valid address - a PM is fine, of course.
Being a Solictor/Lawyer I think you'll understand that a mail forwarding address isn't really appropriate as I would be sending all correspondence as signed for. Audit trail and all that, eh?
I would like to suggest anyone involved to take it easy, those stalking calls are indeed very creepy and unnecessary.
Poor guy. Has a "heart attack" and people stalk him. That's messed up.
BTW Lemon - I have an amazing investment opportunity, if you're interested. You seem to have a few spare BTC laying around.
You don't get hospital bills in the UK unless you use private healthcare. He probably uses the NHS.
pretty sure that NHS would cover that... so it should be free.. would love to hear his excuses though.
He might as well just be saying "I don't feel like paying you back now"
He might as well just be saying "I don't feel like paying you back now"
I have no dog in this battle. But if he is in hospital it does get VERY expensive. BUT they dont make you pay it then. It goes as a debt owed to them (assuming your insurance does not cover). Is reason he cant pay lost wages due to being in hospital or hospital expense?
Lemon lives in UK. 
I have no dog in this battle. But if he is in hospital it does get VERY expensive. BUT they dont make you pay it then. It goes as a debt owed to them (assuming your insurance does not cover). Is reason he cant pay lost wages due to being in hospital or hospital expense?
Is that the case in the UK? Because in Australia, you do not get hit with a hospital bill. 
I have no dog in this battle. But if he is in hospital it does get VERY expensive. BUT they dont make you pay it then. It goes as a debt owed to them (assuming your insurance does not cover). Is reason he cant pay lost wages due to being in hospital or hospital expense?
I can't help but notice that he didn't even touch the subject of investments going to Satoshi Dice, as it was found out some weeks ago when the investors revealed the deposit address(es).
For anyone who missed out on the fun while it lasted (on IRC), here's the summary.
Quote from: Lemon
<+Lemon> I was born in the US, moved away over 2 decades ago.
< Lemon> I grew up in Japan.
< Orbixx> Lemon: You grew up in Japan huh?
< Lemon> 2 years in Tokyo, 6 in Kyoto.
<+Lemon> Japan, then the UK!
< Lemon> No, I have a Japanese sports car.
<+Lemon> 39% return on my automated trading algorithm thus far. Muahahahaha.
< Lemon> FATTY is turning over a solid 1% per hour now, was at 39% profit after 36 hours.
< Lemon> 1% per hour thus far.
<+Lemon> a5m0, I'm setting FATTY loose to see if it can build up a pre-launch reserve.
< Lemon> I want to feed FATTY a good 100BTC.
< Lemon> Feed it in to the "FATTY".
< Lemon> It all goes in to FATTY anyway.
< Lemon> iwilcox, join FATTY when it's ready.
< Lemon> FATTY had a good run.
< Lemon> I'm a lawyer by original trade :-).
< Lemon> (I'm platform architect and the law guru).
< Lemon> I'm an accredited lawyer.
< Lemon> Free, I'm a friendly lawyer. :-)
< Lemon> As an idea, I generally charge a good £6k per month minimum.
< Lemon> I was the good kind of lawyer.
< Lemon> We lawyers are all evil after all.
<+Lemon> I'm the worst (qualified) lawyer in the world.
< Lemon> coingenuity, I'm the worst lawyer in the world.
< Lemon> Graduated Oxford Law many a year ago.
< Lemon> As your lawyer.
< Lemon> I can do the whole scary lawyer thing.
<+Lemon> And my super lawyer sense is telling me this.
<+Lemon> As a lawyer, I was taught not to believe in coincidences.
< Lemon> I'm his lawyer, I'll recommend it to him.
< Lemon> I STILL AM A LAWYER
<+Lemon> My background is law.
<+Lemon> Part of my original speciality in law was dealing with people with depression, anxiety and a wide range of mental health issues.
<+Lemon> We say lawyer, solicitor or barrister. As I am no longer giving representation in court and provide advisory services - a "lawyer" is what I am referred to as.
< Lemon> Source: I'm a fucking lawyer.
< Lemon> coingenuity, I'm actually a lawyer.
< Lemon> zveda, I'm a lawyer by trade.
< Lemon> designdream, I'm a lawyer. Somebody requested me to.
< Lemon> blognewb, I'm a lawyer - stalking people is something I'm good at.
<+Lemon> Half16, drop me a PM. As a lawyer, I can help you confirm - you don't want to mistakenly post the wrong information.
< Lemon> Azelphur, my background is law - let me know if you want any advice. I've dealt with shitty landlords and HMRC far too many times for my liking.
< Lemon> phantomcircuit, I can tell you from several years of law school, experience, and working in the financial industry.
<+Lemon> scrybe, I'm a lawyer - that means you can trust me. Give me all your Bitcoins.
< Lemon> Yes, the lawyer who has offered to meet each and every investor in person is totally a scammer.
< Lemon> You should have just invested in mine.
< Lemon> Investment itself is a gamble.
< Lemon> All investors are gamblers at heart.
< Lemon> But as per any investment, always assume risk.
< Lemon> Companies in the UK, certain parts of Europe - generally safer investments.
<+Lemon> I do tech/investment crap now.
<+Lemon> Aside from that, I invest in tech and start-up crap.
<+Lemon> Lawyer by qualification, tech/invest crap by practice.
<+Lemon> Lawyer who ended up in tech/investments.
< Lemon> I went from law in to tech/investments.
<+Lemon> I'm an investor.
<+Lemon> Dabble, I'm a tech investor now.
< Lemon> Technologov, FIAT investment comes directly from me - and I've got plenty to burn.
<+Lemon> Had an interesting suggestion in regards to investing directly in to the exchange via BTC in order to offset costs. Not sure if it's worth pursuing though, hrmm.
<+Lemon> Want to turn 1 BTC in to a predicted $14,000 within a year? Take a look at the following page of pure sexiness. -- https://crypto.pm/invest
< Lemon> But we're looking at a public share based investment for 40% of what we need.
< Lemon> iwilcox, I was approached by a chinese investor.
< Lemon> bitnumus, potential investors are more than welcome to meet with the team in person.
< Lemon> dabble, we have a considerable amount of investment - this is not my first start-up by a long shot.
< Lemon> mythan, https://crypto.pm/invest
< Lemon> a5m0, https://crypto.pm/invest
< Lemon> csc`, we're offering up 40% of the crypto.pm profits to the general public to test public BTC investment amongst other things. :-)
< Dabble> Lemon, I thought you had the money/backers already
< Lemon> If it doesn't work, we have money.
< Lemon> Selling up to 800 BTC at current market rate. Highly trusted buyers only.
< CaptainBlaze> hey lemon, why the 800btc sell? Thought you had it all tied up in cold storage/long term hold?
< Lemon> That's just some of it.
<@Lemon> If as a result of these changed profit projection you would like to retract your investment, please let me know. We thought we would give you the chance since this calculation issue rests entirely with us. I can only apologize for any confusion caused. If you would like to continue with your investment, please let me know - and Crytography LTD will send out your dividend agreement later today.
< Lemon> Selling 3 of the last 17 nuPlay Arcturus Prototypes ( https://nuplay.co/ ) at 2 BTC per device. Retails for £149.99 normally, shipping included.
< Lemon> Drop an email to [email protected] and Ellie will send you one however.
< Lemon> Selling 10 x nuPlay Arcturus prototype devices ( https://nuplay.co/store/prototype ) for 10 BTC total, retail value of £149.99 each (£1,499.99 total) - these are the last devices available on the market. You can either have the devices shipped to you, or have us sell them on your behalf at full price on the site.
Then suck it up, have someone drive you to your house, and spend the 2 minutes it takes to send out people's btc? You seem to be finding every reason not to. If you know you may end up in the hospital again in 2 days, why not make things right today?
For a worldwide martial arts champion/lawyer/gaming industry tycoon, you sure do lack commitment and common sense.
For a worldwide martial arts champion/lawyer/gaming industry tycoon, you sure do lack commitment and common sense.
That makes too much sense. It's clear he is just going to string you guys along and then he will probably make a new account that posts up a fake obituary claiming that he is dead.
People seem to think that my BTC is stored on my phone, which it is not. Food poisoning was caused by salmon, and independent of heart issues. The fact you are mocking severe health complications says a lot about your character, sadly.
You are welcome to take whatever steps you want to, though right now the only beneficial avenue would be to wave a magic wand to make me feel better. I am now out of the hospital - but am /not/ at home due to the fact being alone right now would be dangerous.
I have had 2 people ask for my recovery location, but I quite frankly find this creepy - and will not be responding to it. Following on from prior phone harassment (which I have asked to be looked in to) - you can see why I have zero intent to disclose.
crypto.pm will be going ahead - but likely without my involvement. My plan is to hand control of the framework and everything else to a willing third party following due dilligence. This is unless my health suddenly improves, which is unlikely.
In other news, how the hell do t-waves flip?
All this type, full of accusations and 'woe is me', and not one single shred of effort to explain or even hint at when you might make things better again. This is why people make humor of things, as it saves them from really speaking their minds in a malicious manner. You are welcome to take whatever steps you want to, though right now the only beneficial avenue would be to wave a magic wand to make me feel better. I am now out of the hospital - but am /not/ at home due to the fact being alone right now would be dangerous.
I have had 2 people ask for my recovery location, but I quite frankly find this creepy - and will not be responding to it. Following on from prior phone harassment (which I have asked to be looked in to) - you can see why I have zero intent to disclose.
crypto.pm will be going ahead - but likely without my involvement. My plan is to hand control of the framework and everything else to a willing third party following due dilligence. This is unless my health suddenly improves, which is unlikely.
In other news, how the hell do t-waves flip?
Let's see if your next post is any different.
It is hard to give a timescale when I have no way of predicting the future of my health, there's a better than even chance that I will end up back in hospital within the next day or two.
For a worldwide martial arts champion/lawyer/gaming industry tycoon, you sure do lack commitment and common sense.
People seem to think that my BTC is stored on my phone, which it is not. Food poisoning was caused by salmon, and independent of heart issues. The fact you are mocking severe health complications says a lot about your character, sadly.
You are welcome to take whatever steps you want to, though right now the only beneficial avenue would be to wave a magic wand to make me feel better. I am now out of the hospital - but am /not/ at home due to the fact being alone right now would be dangerous.
I have had 2 people ask for my recovery location, but I quite frankly find this creepy - and will not be responding to it. Following on from prior phone harassment (which I have asked to be looked in to) - you can see why I have zero intent to disclose.
crypto.pm will be going ahead - but likely without my involvement. My plan is to hand control of the framework and everything else to a willing third party following due dilligence. This is unless my health suddenly improves, which is unlikely.
In other news, how the hell do t-waves flip?
All this type, full of accusations and 'woe is me', and not one single shred of effort to explain or even hint at when you might make things better again. This is why people make humor of things, as it saves them from really speaking their minds in a malicious manner. You are welcome to take whatever steps you want to, though right now the only beneficial avenue would be to wave a magic wand to make me feel better. I am now out of the hospital - but am /not/ at home due to the fact being alone right now would be dangerous.
I have had 2 people ask for my recovery location, but I quite frankly find this creepy - and will not be responding to it. Following on from prior phone harassment (which I have asked to be looked in to) - you can see why I have zero intent to disclose.
crypto.pm will be going ahead - but likely without my involvement. My plan is to hand control of the framework and everything else to a willing third party following due dilligence. This is unless my health suddenly improves, which is unlikely.
In other news, how the hell do t-waves flip?
Let's see if your next post is any different.
It is hard to give a timescale when I have no way of predicting the future of my health, there's a better than even chance that I will end up back in hospital within the next day or two.
Satoshi Dice, anyone?
People seem to think that my BTC is stored on my phone, which it is not. Food poisoning was caused by salmon, and independent of heart issues. The fact you are mocking severe health complications says a lot about your character, sadly.
You are welcome to take whatever steps you want to, though right now the only beneficial avenue would be to wave a magic wand to make me feel better. I am now out of the hospital - but am /not/ at home due to the fact being alone right now would be dangerous.
I have had 2 people ask for my recovery location, but I quite frankly find this creepy - and will not be responding to it. Following on from prior phone harassment (which I have asked to be looked in to) - you can see why I have zero intent to disclose.
crypto.pm will be going ahead - but likely without my involvement. My plan is to hand control of the framework and everything else to a willing third party following due dilligence. This is unless my health suddenly improves, which is unlikely.
In other news, how the hell do t-waves flip?
All this type, full of accusations and 'woe is me', and not one single shred of effort to explain or even hint at when you might make things better again. This is why people make humor of things, as it saves them from really speaking their minds in a malicious manner. You are welcome to take whatever steps you want to, though right now the only beneficial avenue would be to wave a magic wand to make me feel better. I am now out of the hospital - but am /not/ at home due to the fact being alone right now would be dangerous.
I have had 2 people ask for my recovery location, but I quite frankly find this creepy - and will not be responding to it. Following on from prior phone harassment (which I have asked to be looked in to) - you can see why I have zero intent to disclose.
crypto.pm will be going ahead - but likely without my involvement. My plan is to hand control of the framework and everything else to a willing third party following due dilligence. This is unless my health suddenly improves, which is unlikely.
In other news, how the hell do t-waves flip?
Let's see if your next post is any different.
It is hard to give a timescale when I have no way of predicting the future of my health, there's a better than even chance that I will end up back in hospital within the next day or two.
People seem to think that my BTC is stored on my phone, which it is not. Food poisoning was caused by salmon, and independent of heart issues. The fact you are mocking severe health complications says a lot about your character, sadly.
You are welcome to take whatever steps you want to, though right now the only beneficial avenue would be to wave a magic wand to make me feel better. I am now out of the hospital - but am /not/ at home due to the fact being alone right now would be dangerous.
I have had 2 people ask for my recovery location, but I quite frankly find this creepy - and will not be responding to it. Following on from prior phone harassment (which I have asked to be looked in to) - you can see why I have zero intent to disclose.
crypto.pm will be going ahead - but likely without my involvement. My plan is to hand control of the framework and everything else to a willing third party following due dilligence. This is unless my health suddenly improves, which is unlikely.
In other news, how the hell do t-waves flip?
All this type, full of accusations and 'woe is me', and not one single shred of effort to explain or even hint at when you might make things better again. This is why people make humor of things, as it saves them from really speaking their minds in a malicious manner. You are welcome to take whatever steps you want to, though right now the only beneficial avenue would be to wave a magic wand to make me feel better. I am now out of the hospital - but am /not/ at home due to the fact being alone right now would be dangerous.
I have had 2 people ask for my recovery location, but I quite frankly find this creepy - and will not be responding to it. Following on from prior phone harassment (which I have asked to be looked in to) - you can see why I have zero intent to disclose.
crypto.pm will be going ahead - but likely without my involvement. My plan is to hand control of the framework and everything else to a willing third party following due dilligence. This is unless my health suddenly improves, which is unlikely.
In other news, how the hell do t-waves flip?
Let's see if your next post is any different.
T-Wave inversion can suggest multiple issues although it depends on which lead.
I think if we had a magic wand we would wave it. You'll see the people owed funds are quite sympathetic however you, of all people, must realise what a motivator owed funds can be.
I, for the record, wish you no harm, however, I do want mt BTC or GBP back and I would imagine this is the opinion of all parties involved.
What do you think their due diligence will suggest when they find any donations/funding to previous ventures went straight to satoshi dice, though?
Or should that be considered a personal avenue and not one appropirate for full disclosure under due diligence?
I think if we had a magic wand we would wave it. You'll see the people owed funds are quite sympathetic however you, of all people, must realise what a motivator owed funds can be.
I, for the record, wish you no harm, however, I do want mt BTC or GBP back and I would imagine this is the opinion of all parties involved.
What do you think their due diligence will suggest when they find any donations/funding to previous ventures went straight to satoshi dice, though?
Or should that be considered a personal avenue and not one appropirate for full disclosure under due diligence?
People seem to think that my BTC is stored on my phone, which it is not. Food poisoning was caused by salmon, and independent of heart issues. The fact you are mocking severe health complications says a lot about your character, sadly.
You are welcome to take whatever steps you want to, though right now the only beneficial avenue would be to wave a magic wand to make me feel better. I am now out of the hospital - but am /not/ at home due to the fact being alone right now would be dangerous.
I have had 2 people ask for my recovery location, but I quite frankly find this creepy - and will not be responding to it. Following on from prior phone harassment (which I have asked to be looked in to) - you can see why I have zero intent to disclose.
crypto.pm will be going ahead - but likely without my involvement. My plan is to hand control of the framework and everything else to a willing third party following due dilligence. This is unless my health suddenly improves, which is unlikely.
In other news, how the hell do t-waves flip?
You are welcome to take whatever steps you want to, though right now the only beneficial avenue would be to wave a magic wand to make me feel better. I am now out of the hospital - but am /not/ at home due to the fact being alone right now would be dangerous.
I have had 2 people ask for my recovery location, but I quite frankly find this creepy - and will not be responding to it. Following on from prior phone harassment (which I have asked to be looked in to) - you can see why I have zero intent to disclose.
crypto.pm will be going ahead - but likely without my involvement. My plan is to hand control of the framework and everything else to a willing third party following due dilligence. This is unless my health suddenly improves, which is unlikely.
In other news, how the hell do t-waves flip?
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