Topic: Lending board liar - Timelord2067 - page 2. (Read 1233 times)

 

I don't have much technical knowledge, but even I know that. With a basic knowledge of how transactions work you know that casinos and exchanges consolidate inputs in certain addresses and when making withdrawal payments they do them from those addresses, so for an external observer those coins are mixed, there is no need to "build in" anything.

Lol:
Every exchange, casino and bank (!!) is a "mixer" to the outside world. Not all information has to be public.

He is a liar and he continues to persevere in his errors and falsehoods

Luckily I saved and quoted in this post all the lies he wrote.

He continues to accuse without any evidence. He changed the charges against me, but still red and i'm still a scammer on his opinion

Freedom of expression is a right for everyone, but slandering a person is not part of freedom of expression.

Dear Timelord, is so hard to admit, "Sorry I made a mistake"

Oh, I understand now


He probably thought about it for a little, but the lack of medicines clouded (again) his judgement. So all he could think about was something like "Oh boy, oh boy, I escaped today again from the mental hospital! Let's get online on the forum quickly and let's see what low rank user I can harass   " -- or, at least, this is what I believe he thought about in that day.

I probably didn't express myself in the best way.
I just wanted to point out the holes in the Timelord2067 research. How realistic is it that someone who is aware (judging by the quoted HedgeFx feedback, he certainly is) of the bad sides of the Ponzi business, at the same time takes a loan to invest in another Ponzi? If he had at least thought a little before he got involved in this whole circus...

An additional thing is that it is completely wrong to tag someone for the reason where he spent borrowed money, without even researching the accuracy of this insinuation.

Welcome


I am glad to hear that! This is a good start!


This was a wise decision. Good job!

P.S.: in the future please do not quote the entire post made by someone, especially if it's a long post. Either quote line by line and reply below the text you quoted or select to quote only the relevant part

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There's a slight difference, dear examplens, between the situation you pointed out and the situation created recently by TimeLord.

First of all, HedgeFx gave a negative feedback to a Ponzi promoter. That user could make people lose money with that Ponzi scheme. For helping users not fall in such traps, marboroza opened that thread and he also created flags for each Ponzi promoter, together with giving those users negative feedbacks. Such as this case or this case. And, as far as I see, you also supported those flags so you considered them relevant (same as I do). So there should be no problem for the fact that HedgeFx gave that feedback toa Ponzi promoter.

On the other side, TimeLord accused (wrongfully) accused HedgeFx for investing in Ponzi schemes, not for promoting them. So while promoting such a scheme may lead to financial prejudices to a lot of people, investing in a Ponzi scheme is up to anyone willing to risk his money. At least, this is how I see things. If someone is dumb enough to put his money in a Ponzi, so be it -- it's his money, not mine. That person does not do any harm to others excepting him, since he is only investing in a Ponzi scheme and not promoting it.

Furthermore, HedgeFx did not even do that, as TimeLord's accusations were hallucinations determined by the fact that he did not take his pills for a week. So even if the accusations were true, HedgeFx could not harm anyone by investing his money in a Ponzi scheme; he could only harm himself. But he did not promote a Ponzi. Anyway, he did not even invest in a Ponzi.

So I think the situations are very different...

P.S.: in case someone is curious, I don't know HedgeFx. This is first time I interact with him and I only did it after fillippone told me about his situation. Probably if it wasn't fillippone I would have missed all the circus done once more by TimeLord (and I would have been very upset if that happened, lol; but, fortunately, I didn't miss the clown show he made again ).

You are missing one important thing: Timelord accused me of investing in ponzi but I do not invest and promote any ponzi.
Ponzi and MLM are scam. I also reported the user to moderator (this guy made lot of post that was deleted by moderator after my report: https://bpip.org/Profile?id=3546817).


Did you notice that HedgeFx left a negative tag to member @N30W_414 for promoting Ponzi, a month before the Timelord accused him of investing in a Ponzi scheme?   What kind of Pantomime of truth is involved in TL analysis?

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I hope you have learned that there is no place for emotions when you are in a discussion with an unknown person on the Internet. Emotions most often influence the making of wrong decisions.


Did you notice that HedgeFx left a negative tag to member @N30W_414 for promoting Ponzi, a month before the Timelord accused him of investing in a Ponzi scheme?  What kind of Pantomime of truth is involved in TL analysis?

Thank you Gazeta for your suggestion,

I am a very emotional person, passionate like most of those who live on the Mediterranean coasts. Yes, i understand how trust works, and from my last mishap I have learned further things.

I changed trust on PS34 (using more appropriate words ) . My apologies  to him and to all people i could have offended for my inappropriate words. My judgment of his actions remains negative.

About flags, as Loycev said, the only thing i can do is withdraw it. And it was done. I made a mistake opening it, due to my inexperience.

You are right! I edited my earlier post, deleting the quoted part.

That's not possible. All he can do is withdraw it, which he did.

HedgeFx, please make sure you follow LV's guide for correct use of Marketplace Trust system. This is not a system for retaliatory feedbacks. It should be used for financial deals when giving positive and negative ratings. When you have to share anything else you can use a neutral feedback.

In case you simply do or don't trust someone's judgement you can add that person to your trust list or remove the user from your trust list.

Be aware that trust lists and Marketplace Trust system are two different mechanisms and you properly understand them if you want to use them.

Scammer flags are another mechanism, different than the 2 ones mentioned above and you should also make sure you understand this system prior using it. For more information about how Flag system works please follow this thread.

In case you'll use these 3 mechanisms incorrectly you'll only risk to look as ridiculous as the baboon looks. And I don't think you want that, do you?

For example, regarding this:


You should make sure that you changed the type of your feedback not because LV asked you to, but because you actually understood how the system works. And, if you actually understood all these, then besides changing your previous feedback from negative to neutral you should also modify these ones:



1. Your flag against TimeLord is incorrect, as he did not scam anybody. Furthermore, the flag was already opposed by multiple DT users.

2. The second highlighted feedback from the picture is another example that you misused Marketplace Trust system. You gave a negative feedback to a spammer. The spammer is spamming, not scamming. Therefore, since there is no financial loss, that feedback should be a neutral one, not negative.

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As LV already stated, the community sided with you and undid the damage. I personally also involved in this conflict, after fillippone brought it to my attention, and I exposed (again) TimeLord's idiocies, hypocrisy and misuse of forum mechanisms. As you probably observed, he has already about 8 DT exclusions or so.

You should make sure you are not making same mistakes he did. If you'll do it, you'll looks like a clown, just like he does.

I hope this will help you understand that you really need to study well Marketplace Trust, Flags and Trust list systems, in order to use them wisely and correctly.

I'm offended by people who say they're offended! Being offended is a choice. Why torture yourself?

Nice to see that you are the bigger man here HedgeFx and changed color of the feedback. Don´t let Timelord get under your skin, I think that´s his goal and he´s not worth it.
This is good for the future of the trust system.

No, I'm not stubborn. I just feel very offended and let the anger take over.

I understood and I followed your advice: I changed the color of trust.

Thanks. The more people use the Trust system correctly, the more useful it is.

Be more like the The Thick-Skinned Gang. Don't let the opinion of people who's opinion you don't value get to you.

I think he's a stubborn person and won't listen to other users' opinion. When someone make a mistake, I can still forgive him because it might his first time react to this situation. But if he still stand with his opinion when everyone already told him, the problem is his behavior, not his ignorance.

I'm going to distrust both of @OP and @Timelord2067.

Edit:
Even @OP decided to change his feedback, I will wait for next few months to see his progress as he can easily change it back to red color.

I respect you ( like I respect many others here) : I’ll go to change color.

Thank for suggestions: anger drive me into this kind of mistake, sorry.

Agreed.

Negative feedback is meant for scammers. You've removed your previous BS tag, but unfortunately added a new one. With that, you're abusing the Trust system to complain about someone who abuses the Trust system:
No it's not! The only reason I haven't excluded you from my Trust list yet is because because you're far from DT already. In the past days, you've gotten yourself several DT1-exclusions already. And that's exactly how the Trust system is supposed to work: if you use it incorrectly, your feedback will never mean anything.

Why go down this road? I really don't get it! Someone did something bad to you, the community sided with you and undid the damage. Now you're only making yourself look bad.

Agreed.

@HedgeFX: the wording of your current feedback is accurate, it's only the color that's wrong (and damages your own reputation).

It's not. Read this clarification from theymos. If you suppose that someone misuses the Trust system you should distust this user (add him with ~ in your Trust list), but not misuse the Trust system by yourself (not incorrectly tag anyone). Otherwise you'll be distusted by others, because of your own mistakes.