Let's get the facts straight about Apple. - page 3.

kokojie

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Quote from: kokojie on April 08, 2014, 09:36:34 AM

Who cares, if you use Apple products, then you hate freedom period, therefore you do not need to know why Apple banned this or that, because you already submitted to their role as your master. Apple will decide what you are allowed to see, hear and use.

I have no interest in knowing why Apple banned this or that, since I have zero Apple products and will keep it that way

Well, looks like not only Apple will decide what you see, hear and use. Apple will also monitor what you see, hear and use:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/07/22/every-iphone-has-a-security-backdoor/

bitsmichel

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Once your information goes online its very hard for it not to be abused by companies, criminals and governments.
Strong encryption can make the line secure for some years;

Swordsoffreedom

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This just proves my point. You love Google / MS so much that you can't see they too, sell your data. Your also blind to the fact that there are backdoors in the Galaxy series and the Nexus One.
No wonder there are no "bad news" articles about Google/MS. If there were, the poster would be called a fucking idiot.

Or maybe they don't burden of proof is with you when you make accusations Wink

Ok I'll admit they probably do lol

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This just proves my point. You love Google / MS so much that you can't see they too, sell your data. Your also blind to the fact that there are backdoors in the Galaxy series and the Nexus One.
No wonder there are no "bad news" articles about Google/MS. If there were, the poster would be called a fucking idiot.

Yes, these companies all sell your data behind your back. Apple, Microsoft, Google, Facebook and many others.
You can live a perfect life without them.

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Quick lineup! It's time for the new Iphone 6 with improved Siri, twin selfie cameras, and butthole sensor!

SolarGalaxa

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Quote from: coinits on April 09, 2014, 12:21:18 AM

Quote from: SolarGalaxa on April 08, 2014, 10:17:40 PM

Quote from: bitpop on April 08, 2014, 10:14:23 PM

Libre office, free

iLife / iWork: Free.
OS X Upgrades: Free

Quote from: coinits on April 08, 2014, 08:43:37 PM

Apple is fucking disgrace. All of the tech giants and social media are a fucking disgrace.

Why?

For the backdoors they created for N.o S.uch A.gency.

Fuck Apple

Yep, and your beloved Google / MS / Other doesn't, right? LMAO LMAO. You are fucking pathetic and so stupidly naive to think that Google / MS / Other don't sell your info and have backdoors. Hell, didn't Relient OS developers find a "backdoor" in the Galaxy line of phone and the Nexus One? Yep! They did. Wow, I wonder who uses it. Let me guess; some three letter ass hat office call the NSA.

You obviously can't read what i wrote so I must conclude that you are a fucking idiot!

This just proves my point. You love Google / MS so much that you can't see they too, sell your data. Your also blind to the fact that there are backdoors in the Galaxy series and the Nexus One.

No wonder there are no "bad news" articles about Google/MS. If there were, the poster would be called a fucking idiot.

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I forgot to mention they removed podcasts for iOS 6 (which is any Apple phone below version 4)
Give power to a single person and it will be misused

bryant.coleman

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Should we organize an Apple boycott? How many people will join?

Personally, I have never used any of the Apple products. But I know plenty of people who are addicted to them. So will any of the "addicts" will be ready to switch to another brand?

meawleir21

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I agree that apple is trying to avoid any unnecessary fines/concerns but this too caused them to lose any popularity among most BTC users. Though they might have their products I think they are more possible to change now than before.

jonald_fyookball

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Had a MacBook once. Hated it. On the other hand,
I do like my iPad. But I don't like that I can't buy a
New battery for it and install it myself, that is bs.
And I definitely don't like the fact that Apple is
Blocking bitcoin apps, so next time I want to buy
A tablet, I will try to avoid apple.

coinits

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Quote from: SolarGalaxa on April 08, 2014, 10:17:40 PM

Quote from: bitpop on April 08, 2014, 10:14:23 PM

Libre office, free

iLife / iWork: Free.
OS X Upgrades: Free

Quote from: coinits on April 08, 2014, 08:43:37 PM

Apple is fucking disgrace. All of the tech giants and social media are a fucking disgrace.

Why?

For the backdoors they created for N.o S.uch A.gency.

Fuck Apple

Yep, and your beloved Google / MS / Other doesn't, right? LMAO LMAO. You are fucking pathetic and so stupidly naive to think that Google / MS / Other don't sell your info and have backdoors. Hell, didn't Relient OS developers find a "backdoor" in the Galaxy line of phone and the Nexus One? Yep! They did. Wow, I wonder who uses it. Let me guess; some three letter ass hat office call the NSA.

You obviously can't read what i wrote so I must conclude that you are a fucking idiot!

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Quote from: ArticMine on April 08, 2014, 11:03:26 PM

Quote from: genjix on April 08, 2014, 10:46:59 PM

how anyone can talk about freedom and use apple is beyond me.

Many people who care about freedom and civil liberties are not knowledgeable about technology, software and computers at all. So they end up using Apple of Microsoft products because they are not even aware of the issues and alternatives. They may be experts in other areas such as organic farming and the evils of GMOs. In some cases it can be as simple as "Free Software" is to "Organic Seeds" as "Apple" is to 'Monsanto".

True enough an unawareness of these sort of privacy issues is a problem in my opinion towards a truly open society, then again what you don't know can hurt you

But I like to put it in rap form so people can understand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o66FUc61MvU

SIRI sure is a nice software cough or should I say IRIS Wink

ArticMine

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Quote from: genjix on April 08, 2014, 10:46:59 PM

how anyone can talk about freedom and use apple is beyond me.

Many people who care about freedom and civil liberties are not knowledgeable about technology, software and computers at all. So they end up using Apple or Microsoft products because they are not even aware of the issues and alternatives. They may be experts in other areas such as organic farming and the evils of GMOs. In some cases it can be as simple as "Free Software" is to "Organic Seeds" as "Apple" is to "Monsanto".

SolarGalaxa

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Quote from: bountygiver on April 08, 2014, 10:55:34 PM

Quote from: SolarGalaxa on April 08, 2014, 10:11:27 PM

Quote from: hodlmybtc on April 07, 2014, 06:46:27 PM

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And Mac OS upgrade is not free, the 10.5.x upgrades are equivalent to service pack in windows which costs the same, $0

And I want to laugh at the 'future part upgrades' that you don't account for Apple Computers, oh wait! Apple computers lock the hardware up so you can't upgrade!

10.9 was released to the world for $0.

There are guides on how to upgrade your Mac Mini's storage. Oh, the latest Mac Pro is also "upgradable". It's just the "consumer-aimed" machines that aren't upgradable.

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Quote from: SolarGalaxa on April 08, 2014, 10:11:27 PM

Quote from: hodlmybtc on April 07, 2014, 06:46:27 PM

Fuck Apple and their overpriced products

Overpriced? Yeah, right.

HTC One (M8) 32GB: $829
Samsung Galaxy S5: $649 - $749
Apple iPhone: $649 - $849 (32GB is $749 which is actually CHEAPER then HTC One M8)
Nexus 5: $450 total for a 32GB ($50 shipping. Meanwhile, Apple charges $0 for orders over $50)

Computers:

Windows PC: $799 + Blacktop Protection (consumers) + Anti-Virus (5 yrs, $200+ total) + Microsoft Office / 365 Subscription (5 yrs, $99/year $500 total) = $799 + $100 + $200 + $500 = $1599. You need to factor in Windows 9, which will undoubtedly cost $119, and then future part upgrades, which would cost at least $300. So, in total, $1599 + 119 + 200 =2018. Even if you take out the 365 subscription, the total cost over five years is $1518, give or take part upgrades, OS upgrades, and even monitor upgrades.

iMac: $1299 + AppleCare + iWork/iLife (Free) + Free OS Upgrades = $1299 + 99 = $1398.
Mac Mini: $799 + Monitor = $999, $1099 with AppleCare.

So, in reality, you actually pay more when buying a PC, albeit over five years.

Also office 365 $99/years is 5 PCS/Macs + 1 iPad which all gets newest upgrade when Office 2016 is released (and android tablet in the future) and 1 hour international call to non-internet phone + 20 GB cloud storage + is totally optional because not everyone needs the full feature hence they can use free alternatives like Office Web Apps/Google Docs
And free antivirus smokes paid anti virus big time

And Mac OS upgrade is not free, the 10.5.x upgrades are equivalent to service pack in windows which costs the same, $0

And I want to laugh at the 'future part upgrades' that you don't account for Apple Computers, oh wait! Apple computers lock the hardware up so you can't upgrade!

genjix

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how anyone can talk about freedom and use apple is beyond me.

kokojie

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Quote from: SolarGalaxa on April 08, 2014, 10:11:27 PM

Quote from: hodlmybtc on April 07, 2014, 06:46:27 PM

Fuck Apple and their overpriced products

Overpriced? Yeah, right.

HTC One (M8) 32GB: $829
Samsung Galaxy S5: $649 - $749
Apple iPhone: $649 - $849 (32GB is $749 which is actually CHEAPER then HTC One M8)
Nexus 5: $450 total for a 32GB ($50 shipping. Meanwhile, Apple charges $0 for orders over $50)

Computers:

Windows PC: $799 + Blacktop Protection (consumers) + Anti-Virus (5 yrs, $200+ total) + Microsoft Office / 365 Subscription (5 yrs, $99/year $500 total) = $799 + $100 + $200 + $500 = $1599. You need to factor in Windows 9, which will undoubtedly cost $119, and then future part upgrades, which would cost at least $300. So, in total, $1599 + 119 + 200 =2018. Even if you take out the 365 subscription, the total cost over five years is $1518, give or take part upgrades, OS upgrades, and even monitor upgrades.

iMac: $1299 + AppleCare + iWork/iLife (Free) + Free OS Upgrades = $1299 + 99 = $1398.
Mac Mini: $799 + Monitor = $999, $1099 with AppleCare.

So, in reality, you actually pay more when buying a PC, albeit over five years.

What the heck is this? how do you compare price without mentioning any hardware specs?

Windows has built in AV, plus many freely available AV product. What the heck is blacktop protection?

MS Office is not a requirement for using windows. You could use LibreOffice. Both are better than the shitty "iWork", even most Mac users prefer LibreOffice over iWork.

Remove these bullshit $800 from the PC equation, now the Mac suddenly seem expensive, huh?

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Quote from: cryptoanarchist on April 08, 2014, 10:27:18 PM

iphones are for old people, little girls, and toddlers.

Age has nothing to do with this. By the way I first developed my loathing for DRM in the 1980's when it consisted of deliberatively creating bad sectors on 5.25in floppy diskettes. Ever heard of the term "Defective by Design".

ArticMine

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Quote from: SolarGalaxa on April 08, 2014, 10:11:27 PM

Quote from: hodlmybtc on April 07, 2014, 06:46:27 PM

Fuck Apple and their overpriced products

Overpriced? Yeah, right.

HTC One (M8) 32GB: $829
Samsung Galaxy S5: $649 - $749
Apple iPhone: $649 - $849 (32GB is $749 which is actually CHEAPER then HTC One M8)
Nexus 5: $450 total for a 32GB ($50 shipping. Meanwhile, Apple charges $0 for orders over $50)

Computers:

Windows PC: $799 + Blacktop Protection (consumers) + Anti-Virus (5 yrs, $200+ total) + Microsoft Office / 365 Subscription (5 yrs, $99/year $500 total) = $799 + $100 + $200 + $500 = $1599. You need to factor in Windows 9, which will undoubtedly cost $119, and then future part upgrades, which would cost at least $300. So, in total, $1599 + 119 + 200 =2018. Even if you take out the 365 subscription, the total cost over five years is $1518, give or take part upgrades, OS upgrades, and even monitor upgrades.

iMac: $1299 + AppleCare + iWork/iLife (Free) + Free OS Upgrades = $1299 + 99 = $1398.
Mac Mini: $799 + Monitor = $999, $1099 with AppleCare.

So, in reality, you actually pay more when buying a PC, albeit over five years.

Start with Windows PC: $799.00 Defenestration $0, Install GNU/Linux $0 Keep for 10 years or so $0. Upgrades over 10 years $0 Over 10,000 Floss Applications $0 Total cost over 10 years $799.00.

SolarGalaxa

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on April 08, 2014, 10:19:35 PM

How much do you get paid at the Apple store, MAC Genius? Cheesy

I swear. Every time I spit out the truth people say this.

Quote from: cryptoanarchist on April 08, 2014, 10:27:18 PM

iphones are for old people, little girls, and toddlers.

Weird....... The iPhone users I see are adults..

Oh, and according to a recent survey: http://www.piperjaffray.com/private/pdf/Taking_Stock_Teach-In_Spring_2014.pdf (http://www.macrumors.com/2014/04/08/iphone-still-popular-with-teens/)

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