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Topic: Let's get the facts straight about Apple. - page 6. (Read 6629 times)

legendary
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Fuck you and Fuck Apple. Fuck off.
sr. member
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maybe they know of a better coin (AppleCoin) and don't want people to lose any more money in BTCitcoin
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
1) Closed Ecosystem
2) They didn't allow the Blockchain app on purpose it doesn't do anything but have a QR code to download a Bitcoin Wallet
3) Read only apps are work-arounds made by the community to help apple user who want to use Bitcoin
4) Apple wants to maintain its monopoly 30% revenue share from the App store and does not see Bitcoin giving it a share of the cut

In conclusion Apple is just protecting its monopoly status and does not give a damn about the end user especially after Jobs died.

1) I agree.
2) So, they let this app slide by for two years and 100k+ downloads. Yeah, right.
3) So, if I develop a reader service, I'm creating a "work-around" even thought that's not my original intention?
4) Does Apple get a 30% cut from the PayPal API? Nope.

I do NOT agree with your conclusion. If Apple wanted to protect it's monopoly status, then why allow the PayPal API? I would argue that it's easier for end users to just use iTunes for IAP and not have to worry about their purchases becoming "lost" or damaged. I certainly find it easier not having to worry about all that stuff.

2) Bitcoin simply put did not get much attention until recently so its possible they were unaware of it hard to tell
3) Not necessarily if you read the other thread you can see what I meant by that  its from the coindesk article more or less
http://www.coindesk.com/unofficial-apple-ios-store-to-allow-bitcoin-wallet-apps/
4) Incorrect they do get a cut just not directly
While consumers can send payments to each other and link PayPal to fund their iTunes account, developers selling in the App Store are forbidden in accepting PayPal directly due to Apple’s 30% cut.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/06/13/why-apple-is-afraid-of-bitcoin/

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PayPal is a unique and interesting exception. Having been in the App Store since the very beginning, PayPal has the volume and clout to the point of where rejecting it would harm Apple more than PayPal. Also, PayPal holds consumer accounts and processes only national currencies so they are more like a bank and card company combined. However, Apple still hugely regulates what can be done via PayPal. While consumers can send payments to each other and link PayPal to fund their iTunes account, developers selling in the App Store are forbidden in accepting PayPal directly due to Apple’s 30% cut.

So back to my original conclusion
Apple is just protecting its monopoly status and does not give a damn about the end user especially after Jobs died.
newbie
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1) Closed Ecosystem
2) They didn't allow the Blockchain app on purpose it doesn't do anything but have a QR code to download a Bitcoin Wallet
3) Read only apps are work-arounds made by the community to help apple user who want to use Bitcoin
4) Apple wants to maintain its monopoly 30% revenue share from the App store and does not see Bitcoin giving it a share of the cut

In conclusion Apple is just protecting its monopoly status and does not give a damn about the end user especially after Jobs died.

1) I agree.
2) So, they let this app slide by for two years and 100k+ downloads. Yeah, right.
3) So, if I develop a reader service, I'm creating a "work-around" even thought that's not my original intention?
4) Does Apple get a 30% cut from the PayPal API? Nope.

I do NOT agree with your conclusion. If Apple wanted to protect it's monopoly status, then why allow the PayPal API?

I would argue that it's actually easier for end users to use iTunes for IAP and not have to worry about their purchases becoming "lost" or damaged. I certainly find it easier not having to worry about all the stuff that could go wrong with 'independent' in-app-purchase systems.
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
1) Closed Ecosystem
2) They didn't allow the Blockchain app on purpose it doesn't do anything but have a QR code to a Bitcoin Wallet through blockchain
3) Read only apps are work-arounds made by the community to help the apple user who want to use Bitcoin
4) Apple wants to maintain its monopoly 30% revenue share from the App store and does not see Bitcoin giving it a share of the cut

In conclusion Apple is just protecting its monopoly status and does not give a damn about the end user especially after Jobs died.

But I'll link to another thread to back me up
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6100672
newbie
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I've seen some posts (here & on reddit) which bash Apple for their Bitcoin app ban. Firstly, Apple has not banned Bitcoin. If they did, then why are "read-only" Bitcoin apps still allowed? That has no logic in it at all. Secondly, according to the Developer Guidelines, the app's content and/or service(s) must be legal everywhere the App Store serves apps. Thus:

1) Bitcoin has shady legal status in several overseas countries. India has declared Bitcoin an Ponzi scheme (yeah, right!), and others have outright banned Bitcoin. Thus, if Apple were to offer these apps in those countries, then because Apple is the world's most valuable billion dollar company category and thus, the largest then those governments have the opportunity to sue Apple.

2) The reason why Blockchain was removed is because Blockchain updated the app and provided false screen shots. Providing screen shots that do not match the app itself is against the Developer Guidelines. Another violation of the guidelines is the fact that the Blockchain's app description made no mention of the sending and receiving Bitcoin.

In conclusion, Apple is just protecting their collectively large asses from money hungry governments.
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