That was unexpected! We can definitely rule out Topalov, Nakamura, Aronian and Ivanchuk now. They would have tried to wipe us off the board with c4.
Nb8 seems very positional and a move that Carlsen or Karpov might prefer. Too bad they are not on the list.
My first idea is 17. Ne5
That way we can capture on c6 before his knight can get to b4 or d4
17. Be3 will stop c4 now but after Nc6 his knight seems very well placed and he can always close the diagonal with Nd4 later
edit: I don't mean to insult Topalov, Nakamura, Aronian and Ivanchuk or imply they cannot play positional moves. I am just saying that they are aggressive players and c4 looked like a very natural (and good) aggressive move.
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It's late because I fell asleep. Sue me
Your move bitcointalk. You have the white pieces
The current position is updated below:
1. Nf3 d5
2. c4 e6
3. g3 Nf6
4. Bg2 dxc4
5. Qa4+ Nbd7
6. Qxc4 c5
7. 0-0 a6
8. d3 b5
9. Qc2 Bb7
10.Nc3 Be7
11.Bf4 0-0
12.Rfd1 Qb6
13.a4 Rfd8
14.a5 Qa7
15.e4 Rac8
16.h3 Nb8
It's late because I fell asleep. Sue me
I saw a lot of discussion leaning towards b3 but you have it behind, can you tell me who voted for which in the above graph please?
I did the queries 
, here are the candidates:
2816 Veselin Topalov
2814 Hikaru Nakamura
2808 Fabiano Caruana
2793 Anish Giri
2784 Dmitry Jakovenko
2782 Liren Ding
2777 Vladimir Kramnik
2773 Wesley So
2771 Alexander Grischuk
2765 Levon Aronian
2762 Sergey Karjakin
2758 Evgeny Tomashevsky
2744 Maxime Vachier-Lagrave
2742 Michael Adams
2741 Radoslaw Wojtaszek
2738 Teimour Radjabov
2737 Pendyala Harikrishna
2736 Shakhrivar Mamedyarov*
2734 Yi Wei
2732 Leinier Dominguez Perez
2728 David Navara
2727 Peter Svidler
2726 Vassily Ivanchuk
2725 Nikita Vitiugov
2721 Yangyi Yu
2720 Dmitry Andreikin
2717 Pavel Eljanov
2712 Hao Wang
2707 Peter Leko
2705 Ian Nepomniachtchi
2700 Anton Korobov
* Maimdiarove's name is butchered horribly all the time and the correct spelling is unknown
, here are the candidates:2816 Veselin Topalov
2814 Hikaru Nakamura
2808 Fabiano Caruana
2793 Anish Giri
2784 Dmitry Jakovenko
2782 Liren Ding
2777 Vladimir Kramnik
2773 Wesley So
2771 Alexander Grischuk
2765 Levon Aronian
2762 Sergey Karjakin
2758 Evgeny Tomashevsky
2744 Maxime Vachier-Lagrave
2742 Michael Adams
2741 Radoslaw Wojtaszek
2738 Teimour Radjabov
2737 Pendyala Harikrishna
2736 Shakhrivar Mamedyarov*
2734 Yi Wei
2732 Leinier Dominguez Perez
2728 David Navara
2727 Peter Svidler
2726 Vassily Ivanchuk
2725 Nikita Vitiugov
2721 Yangyi Yu
2720 Dmitry Andreikin
2717 Pavel Eljanov
2712 Hao Wang
2707 Peter Leko
2705 Ian Nepomniachtchi
2700 Anton Korobov
* Maimdiarove's name is butchered horribly all the time and the correct spelling is unknown
A good candidat for OP is Giri Anish.
Young (21yo) from Netherlands where Bitcoin is quite popular there. He played many times Magnus Carlsen when junior, >2700, is very deep now in the Baku Tournament... and lived in Japan during 2002-2008
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anish_Giri
I'd like to thank whoever it is because this thread is highly valuable (OP is world top best player !!), due to this thread for a week now I'm learning from zero Chess and it's a real blow, I like it very much spending a lot of time to learn openings and play. I was also digging a lot of information about the best players, their games, the history of Chess and when doing this I fell on this player and thought... well it could really be him !
BTW, the best free and ad-free chess website I've found is http://www.lichess.org have a look (they also have an app).
It's late because I fell asleep. Sue me
I Have a good multiplayer two player Chessgame that can wager in BTC. If you want i can set a room.
If your idea is to eventually play d4 (or dxc4 after c4) opening the queen and then e5 hoping the f6 knight will move so you can play Qxh7 check, it wont work. If it does work it will prove we are not really playing a GM.
I don't think that such kind an attack is a bad idea. Look at beautiful king's gambit in Morozevich-Anand http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1018654, for example, both of them are GMs.)
Now there is only 1 black figure at the king side. So if we could manage to place or direct 3-4 our figures to that side and could not afraid to spend 1-2 figures for the pawns during an attack, it could be nice game.)
That's why I like h3, when we will open b1-h7 with e5, we will simultaniously force black knight to move out of the kingside.) But I'm afraid it will be difficult to force community to try the attack with sacrifices and without clear perspective.
How true that is.
If your idea is to eventually play d4 (or dxc4 after c4) opening the queen and then e5 hoping the f6 knight will move so you can play Qxh7 check, it wont work. If it does work it will prove we are not really playing a GM.
I don't think that such kind an attack is a bad idea. Look at beautiful king's gambit in Morozevich-Anand http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1018654, for example, both of them are GMs.)
Now there is only 1 black figure at the king side. So if we could manage to place or direct 3-4 our figures to that side and could not afraid to spend 1-2 figures for the pawns during an attack, it could be nice game.)
That's why I like h3, when we will open b1-h7 with e5, we will simultaniously force black knight to move out of the kingside.) But I'm afraid it will be difficult to force community to try the attack with sacrifices and without clear perspective.
OP are you willing to confirm or deny that you are Eljanov?
https://chess24.com/en/read/news/baku-world-cup-qf-eljanov-on-the-rampage
Instead of Nakamura why not his opponent live right now?
http://en.chessbase.com/post/interview-with-pavel-eljanov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavel_Eljanov
Nakamura vs Eljanov started 30 min ago
https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/baku-world-cup-2015#live
Some evidence:
http://www.chessbomb.com/arena/2015-worldcup/04-3-Jakovenko_Dmitry-Eljanov_Pavel (look at first 6 moves and compare to our game)
Exact same opening today in Nakamura vs Eljanov except he played Bd7 instead of Nbd7 on move 5?
If he afraid Nakamura is reading this thread and getting all his ideas (and switched his 5th move to throw him off)?
Will many GMs start following this thread now?
WTF!
I am watching it. OP is playing in it! We don't know who he is but he has provided a few clues
ow nice. And who do you think it is? OP still playing at the last 16?
Your guess is as good as mine. These are the clues I have seen so far
1. He is not Magnus Carlsen:
3. He is not Bruzón Batista (impossible per #4)
It also looks like our esteemed opponent does not wish to confirm or deny that he is Bruzón Batista. I figured I was right.
I prefer not to confirm or deny every guess or I may reveal myself quickly. However I can deny in this case since I already provided a clue that eliminated him as a possibility (based on current ratings):
4. Rated over 2700
5. He won round 1 in Baku
We don't know how he did in round 2 or 3 but most (maybe all?) people rated over 2700 were paired down in round 2 implying he had a >50% chance of advancing past round 2.
6. He is not Viswanathan Anand because he decided not to play in Baku
7. He is not Gata Kampsky (upset in round 1) but his current rating is below 2700 anyway (impossible per #4). From the top of my head I am not aware of any more major upsets of people in round 1 or people over 2700 who did not show up (aside from Carlsen and Anand already mentioned).
8. He is not satoshi (we don't know if Satoshi is a chess player or not but it would be funny if letsplayagame and satoshi played each other and were unaware of each others identities):
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3lj2t9/long_term_goal_promoting_bitcoin_usage_for/cv757pc
If I am right it means that letsplayagame (Eljanov) just took out world #2 Nakamura (won yesterday and drew today to win 1.5-.5) and has advanced to the World Cup Semi Finals
http://www.bakuworldcup2015.com/content/26
https://chess24.com/en/read/news/baku-world-cup-qf-eljanov-on-the-rampage
I did the queries , here are the candidates:
2816 Veselin Topalov
2814 Hikaru Nakamura
2808 Fabiano Caruana
2793 Anish Giri
2784 Dmitry Jakovenko
2782 Liren Ding
2777 Vladimir Kramnik
2773 Wesley So
2771 Alexander Grischuk
2765 Levon Aronian
2762 Sergey Karjakin
2758 Evgeny Tomashevsky
2744 Maxime Vachier-Lagrave
2742 Michael Adams
2741 Radoslaw Wojtaszek
2738 Teimour Radjabov
2737 Pendyala Harikrishna
2736 Shakhrivar Mamedyarov*
2734 Yi Wei
2732 Leinier Dominguez Perez
2728 David Navara
2727 Peter Svidler
2726 Vassily Ivanchuk
2725 Nikita Vitiugov
2721 Yangyi Yu
2720 Dmitry Andreikin
2717 Pavel Eljanov
2712 Hao Wang
2707 Peter Leko
2705 Ian Nepomniachtchi
2700 Anton Korobov
* Maimdiarove's name is butchered horribly all the time and the correct spelling is unknown
I feel like Nakamura would be the bitcoin contender on this list. I don't know if that's our secret grandmaster, but I can hope , here are the candidates:2816 Veselin Topalov
2814 Hikaru Nakamura
2808 Fabiano Caruana
2793 Anish Giri
2784 Dmitry Jakovenko
2782 Liren Ding
2777 Vladimir Kramnik
2773 Wesley So
2771 Alexander Grischuk
2765 Levon Aronian
2762 Sergey Karjakin
2758 Evgeny Tomashevsky
2744 Maxime Vachier-Lagrave
2742 Michael Adams
2741 Radoslaw Wojtaszek
2738 Teimour Radjabov
2737 Pendyala Harikrishna
2736 Shakhrivar Mamedyarov*
2734 Yi Wei
2732 Leinier Dominguez Perez
2728 David Navara
2727 Peter Svidler
2726 Vassily Ivanchuk
2725 Nikita Vitiugov
2721 Yangyi Yu
2720 Dmitry Andreikin
2717 Pavel Eljanov
2712 Hao Wang
2707 Peter Leko
2705 Ian Nepomniachtchi
2700 Anton Korobov
* Maimdiarove's name is butchered horribly all the time and the correct spelling is unknown
Instead of Nakamura why not his opponent live right now?
http://en.chessbase.com/post/interview-with-pavel-eljanov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavel_Eljanov
Nakamura vs Eljanov started 30 min ago
https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/baku-world-cup-2015#live
Some evidence:
http://www.chessbomb.com/arena/2015-worldcup/04-3-Jakovenko_Dmitry-Eljanov_Pavel (look at first 6 moves and compare to our game)
Exact same opening today in Nakamura vs Eljanov except he played Bd7 instead of Nbd7 on move 5?
If he afraid Nakamura is reading this thread and getting all his ideas (and switched his 5th move to throw him off)?
Will many GMs start following this thread now?
WTF!
Some of you guys also follow the World Chess Cup?
There are some very nice games already be played an there will also be a lot of nice games. I follow the games by Chessbomb.
There are some very nice games already be played an there will also be a lot of nice games. I follow the games by Chessbomb.
I am watching it. OP is playing in it! We don't know who he is but he has provided a few clues
ow nice. And who do you think it is? OP still playing at the last 16?
Your guess is as good as mine. These are the clues I have seen so far
1. He is not Magnus Carlsen:
I am not Ed Trice.
3. He is not Bruzón Batista (impossible per #4)
It also looks like our esteemed opponent does not wish to confirm or deny that he is Bruzón Batista. I figured I was right.
I prefer not to confirm or deny every guess or I may reveal myself quickly. However I can deny in this case since I already provided a clue that eliminated him as a possibility (based on current ratings):
4. Rated over 2700
OP, are you a GM, IM, ranked on 2700chess, etc?
Yes I am a GM and ranked on that list. 5. He won round 1 in Baku
Quote from: letsplayagame link=topic=1148538.msg12409552#msg12409552
Another small hint regarding my identity. I won my round 1 match in Baku:
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Another small hint regarding my identity. I won my round 1 match in Baku:
[url
http://www.bakuworldcup2015.com/[/url]
I don't plan to announce my results from my round 2 match because that would significantly narrow down the number of people I could be.
I don't plan to announce my results from my round 2 match because that would significantly narrow down the number of people I could be.
We don't know how he did in round 2 or 3 but most (maybe all?) people rated over 2700 were paired down in round 2 implying he had a >50% chance of advancing past round 2.
6. He is not Viswanathan Anand because he decided not to play in Baku
7. He is not Gata Kampsky (upset in round 1) but his current rating is below 2700 anyway (impossible per #4). From the top of my head I am not aware of any more major upsets of people in round 1 or people over 2700 who did not show up (aside from Carlsen and Anand already mentioned).
8. He is not satoshi (we don't know if Satoshi is a chess player or not but it would be funny if letsplayagame and satoshi played each other and were unaware of each others identities):
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3lj2t9/long_term_goal_promoting_bitcoin_usage_for/cv757pc
If I am right it means that letsplayagame (Eljanov) just took out world #2 Nakamura (won yesterday and drew today to win 1.5-.5) and has advanced to the World Cup Semi Finals
http://www.bakuworldcup2015.com/content/26
How about f4e3? Pin that pawn. I like that better.
Fit's in with my plans, I change my vote for this round to f4e3.
I was going to use the Queen to take that pawn, but the Bishop is good too.
Use your queen to take what pawn? We are discussing the pawn on c5 that would be pinned by the bishop after Be3. Have you decided to give up your Nxb5 sacrifice idea now in favor of sacrificing your Queen or Bishop for a pawn on c5?
What are you trying to accomplish? It seems like you want to give away our pieces on purpose
I take that back, f4e3 is bad. Still working on this. Guess we could cheat and use some programs and see what the ai's choices are.
Lets ask Big Blue. Our opponent admitted he would probably lose if we did that. Instead lets just try our best on our own and see how well we can do.
I was making a joke, last thing I am is a cheater.
I'd rather lose with Honor. I edited my last post. I will not vote this turn and think we should be thinking about getting the rooks into play.
I knew you were joking:) My comment was directed to others who may wonder the same thing and have not read the entire thread.
I agree with you that getting our rooks active is important. The harder question is finding the best way to activate them. The c and d files still seem like the most likely place they will see action.
Is anybody else interested in Ng5?
If it was a local game, I would have played it. I am not sure if it is the right move against a Grand Master.
If it was a local game, I would have played it. I am not sure if it is the right move against a Grand Master.
Black can just play h6 and force you to retreat.
If your idea is to eventually play d4 (or dxc4 after c4) opening the queen and then e5 hoping the f6 knight will move so you can play Qxh7 check, it wont work. If it does work it will prove we are not really playing a GM.
Fair point. It was a long shot.
I will change my move to h3.
How about f4e3? Pin that pawn. I like that better.
Fit's in with my plans, I change my vote for this round to f4e3.
I was going to use the Queen to take that pawn, but the Bishop is good too.
Use your queen to take what pawn? We are discussing the pawn on c5 that would be pinned by the bishop after Be3. Have you decided to give up your Nxb5 sacrifice idea now in favor of sacrificing your Queen or Bishop for a pawn on c5?
What are you trying to accomplish? It seems like you want to give away our pieces on purpose
I take that back, f4e3 is bad. Still working on this. Guess we could cheat and use some programs and see what the ai's choices are.
Lets ask Big Blue. Our opponent admitted he would probably lose if we did that. Instead lets just try our best on our own and see how well we can do.
I was making a joke, last thing I am is a cheater.
I'd rather lose with Honor. I edited my last post. I will not vote this turn and think we should be thinking about getting the rooks into play.
I knew you were joking:) My comment was directed to others who may wonder the same thing and have not read the entire thread.
I agree with you that getting our rooks active is important. The harder question is finding the best way to activate them. The c and d files still seem like the most likely place they will see action.
How about f4e3? Pin that pawn. I like that better.
Fit's in with my plans, I change my vote for this round to f4e3.
I was going to use the Queen to take that pawn, but the Bishop is good too.
Use your queen to take what pawn? We are discussing the pawn on c5 that would be pinned by the bishop after Be3. Have you decided to give up your Nxb5 sacrifice idea now in favor of sacrificing your Queen or Bishop for a pawn on c5?
What are you trying to accomplish? It seems like you want to give away our pieces on purpose
I take that back, f4e3 is bad. Still working on this. Guess we could cheat and use some programs and see what the ai's choices are.
Lets ask Big Blue. Our opponent admitted he would probably lose if we did that. Instead lets just try our best on our own and see how well we can do.
I was making a joke, last thing I am is a cheater.
I'd rather lose with Honor. I edited my last post. I will not vote this turn and think we should be thinking about getting the rooks into play.
How about f4e3? Pin that pawn. I like that better.
Fit's in with my plans, I change my vote for this round to f4e3.
I was going to use the Queen to take that pawn, but the Bishop is good too.
Use your queen to take what pawn? We are discussing the pawn on c5 that would be pinned by the bishop after Be3. Have you decided to give up your Nxb5 sacrifice idea now in favor of sacrificing your Queen or Bishop for a pawn on c5?
What are you trying to accomplish? It seems like you want to give away our pieces on purpose
This is me shrugging my shoulders...
...and reminding you I changed my vote... f4e3 please.
My comment was not about your f4e3 move (Be3) but about your comment of using your bishop to take that pawn (do you mean the pawn on c5?)
How about f4e3? Pin that pawn. I like that better.
Fit's in with my plans, I change my vote for this round to f4e3.
I was going to use the Queen to take that pawn, but the Bishop is good too.
Use your queen to take what pawn? We are discussing the pawn on c5 that would be pinned by the bishop after Be3. Have you decided to give up your Nxb5 sacrifice idea now in favor of sacrificing your Queen or Bishop for a pawn on c5?
What are you trying to accomplish? It seems like you want to give away our pieces on purpose
I take that back, f4e3 is bad. Still working on this. Guess we could cheat and use some programs and see what the ai's choices are.
Lets ask Big Blue. Our opponent admitted he would probably lose if we did that. Instead lets just try our best on our own and see how well we can do.
How about f4e3? Pin that pawn. I like that better.
Fit's in with my plans, I change my vote for this round to f4e3.
I was going to use the Queen to take that pawn, but the Bishop is good too.
Use your queen to take what pawn? We are discussing the pawn on c5 that would be pinned by the bishop after Be3. Have you decided to give up your Nxb5 sacrifice idea now in favor of sacrificing your Queen or Bishop for a pawn on c5?
What are you trying to accomplish? It seems like you want to give away our pieces on purpose
I take that back, f4e3 is bad. Still working on this. Guess we could cheat and use some programs and see what the ai's choices are.
Lets ask Big Blue. OK, I take back my votes but think we should try to get those rooks into play. I'll wait for the next move to vote. So I will do no vote this move as I don't want to hurt the effort.
How about f4e3? Pin that pawn. I like that better.
Fit's in with my plans, I change my vote for this round to f4e3.
I was going to use the Queen to take that pawn, but the Bishop is good too.
Use your queen to take what pawn? We are discussing the pawn on c5 that would be pinned by the bishop after Be3. Have you decided to give up your Nxb5 sacrifice idea now in favor of sacrificing your Queen or Bishop for a pawn on c5?
What are you trying to accomplish? It seems like you want to give away our pieces on purpose
This is me shrugging my shoulders...
...and reminding you I changed my vote... f4e3 please.
How about f4e3? Pin that pawn. I like that better.
Fit's in with my plans, I change my vote for this round to f4e3.
I was going to use the Queen to take that pawn, but the Bishop is good too.
Use your queen to take what pawn? We are discussing the pawn on c5 that would be pinned by the bishop after Be3. Have you decided to give up your Nxb5 sacrifice idea now in favor of sacrificing your Queen or Bishop for a pawn on c5?
What are you trying to accomplish? It seems like you want to give away our pieces on purpose
How about f4e3? Pin that pawn. I like that better.
Fit's in with my plans, I change my vote for this round to f4e3.
I was going to use the Queen to take that pawn, but the Bishop is good too.
How about f4e3? Pin that pawn. I like that better.
Fit's in with my plans, I change my vote for this round to f4e3.
I think that is the idea of most of the people voting for h3. They are worried about Ng4 attacking the Bishop after Be3 (f4e3 like you say) and want to prevent it by playing h3 first.
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