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November 25, 2023, 05:25:43 PM
Honestly, I have never met or being close with someone who is highly addicted in gambling. Or if ever they are, maybe they are keeping it to theirselves because they always think that no one will be able to understand them or help them in any way. But if ever I have a close friend who falls deeply on gambling addiction, I will not force him to open up but give him the time to think it to himself until he's ready to share his burden. And when that time comes, the best way is just to listen to him and give him advices to control his gambling urge if he still want to get relieved from that worst situation.

Family and friends are also very important factors since they will serve as a strong back ups for the addicted gambler. Otherwise, if he has no one to share, he might get into suicidal which is very common to those addicted gamblers who have never felt support and care from their loved ones.

The journey of curing addiction doesn't begin with the addicted person alone. You can begin by engaging the player with few questions, regarding his strange behavior. Because most gambling addicts, don't feel comfortable opening up to friends who don't show concern. It's important to observe the attitude of your friends. The process doesn't require force, they need help, so forcing them will only give reasons to avoid you. Keeping in touch with gambling friends can be done socially, inviting them to fun activities, as a way of distracting the addicted person from gambling. At some point he'll confide in you and decide to share his story. Waiting for him to make the first move, without your effort, isn't effective. You can wait forever, and when it gets delayed, your friend's addiction can worsen. If you notice, everyone wants to live a promising life, that's why when addicts associate with friends, or family, they still claim to be fine. While alone the depression eats them up and cause more havoc to their brain. Its heartbreaking for parents to discover such problem from their ward. Especially, when they don't understand how their wealth has been misused by their wards. 
legendary
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November 25, 2023, 04:13:32 PM
If I have a friend who a gambling addict, I will stay away against them and might cut off our relationship. Why? no one can change except themselves, if they're a good people they wouldn't become a gambling addict, as simple as that. So having a relationship with them might drag myself to become them or they will keep asking money because they already lose it for gambling.

It's a bit harsh to outright do this, but if this is what will work for you, then do it. Your mental health matters more than what other people will say.

But if I were in the situation, I will reach out and do my best to encourage my friend to get away from gambling and seek rehabilitation to completely disassociate himself in gambling. This way, I can show my concern as a true friend. I won't easily distance myself and rather try my best to let them be enlightened. For me, it's important that I at least got to try before completely giving up. That way, I can say I did what I can and will have no regrets such as having what if's and what could have been's.

It's true that they are the only one who can truly help themselves. But they also need guidance and support from those people that surround them. It's much motivating to recover if there are people cheering from you after all. Just learn to set boundaries of course. If you can't provide financial provision, then just give them moral support instead. Never ever lend them money because that's like tolerating their behavior.
Sometimes we are people who by taking care of ourselves in a moment can not distance ourselves from our true friends, I am one of those people who if someone needs me and I can help them, well I just do it, especially when it is in such a difficult situation difficult of an addiction, he needs support, he needs to be talked to, his mind to clear, to put things in his head where he does not allow him to think about gambling or doing similar things in a casino or making Sports bets , because he already has a developed mind, Maybe it's good to help a friend like that with something, maybe telling him that you're going to play soccer or something like that, maybe doing something that makes them happy, that's at least closer than that to helping a person who has an addiction. , then the things that can be done for these people are beautiful and to help I think that in the future will be given back but in other ways, let's remember that we are in a world where many times we do not understand things, but I know that things are beautiful , they bring good things.

In any of the cases, people are very constant with their actions, I have seen that some members of my own family are selfish with me, when in the end I have never been, and when they needed me, I gave them the help they needed. It was within my reach, even with money and everything, but when a person like them is cool, and they see that I teach something and that they have it or are doing something that can help me, they became silent, and that is interpreted by me as playing dirty, it's like seeing them climb to the highest point stepping on me when they could also help me climb, but like everything good is good, and brings good things, bad climbs bring bad things, they were able to climb but they came down in an impressive way, They are no longer at the top, the good thing about doing things well, especially with helping people, is that you Climb without trampling on Andie, and when you climb you don't slip, on the contrary you are still higher up.
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November 23, 2023, 06:12:44 AM
So, in all this, the biggest challenge is to first find out if a person who you know gambles is addicted to it or not, and if they are addicted, do they realize or admit it or they think they are doing okay and don't want to stop gambling or get away from it, and it's not easy to do all that at all, believe me.
It's a job for mental health counselor or doctor to find out such kind people, because there's no obligation for us to recover people from addiction, we have our own problem too. So if there's a people become a gambling addict even it's in my family, as long as he not cause any harm to me, I wouldn't care.

It's his choice to become a gambling addict.
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November 23, 2023, 03:06:10 AM
You can only change someone who wants to be changed. Trying to help someone who does not want to be changed is a waste of time. I can help someone who is almost getting addicted as an unprofessional, than someone who has become addicted. Most addicted gamblers require more professional help that what I can offer. The best I can do is to recommend them for help by telling them the need help, or I can offer to pay for the help fee for these people required by the professionals. 
Correct base on my experience. I have an uncle that is addicted in gambling despite they are poor since he is jobless and only relying to my grandparents sustain. His family including his parents always telling him to stop gambling yet he keeps doing that even though he always losing money that he can use to sustain his family properly.

Until he died, he never stop gambling even though he always create trouble to people around him. People that didn’t want to change is really a waste of time. They should be the one who realize that they are garbage because they will keep doing what they are doing when someone showing care to stop them.
That's the point, most gambling addicts won't admit that they are addicted to it and they don't want to change or leave it, which is why you can't talk them out of it or convince them that they are in a state that is bad for them and the people around them and if they don't get out of that state now, it will keep getting worse. You can only talk sense into a person who, deep inside, understands that they are in trouble and their life is going downhill and they need to find a solution to that, and they were just not being able to communicate it properly or were afraid to do it thinking that people might shame them for that.

So, in all this, the biggest challenge is to first find out if a person who you know gambles is addicted to it or not, and if they are addicted, do they realize or admit it or they think they are doing okay and don't want to stop gambling or get away from it, and it's not easy to do all that at all, believe me.
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November 22, 2023, 05:41:32 PM
 Honestly, I have never met or being close with someone who is highly addicted in gambling. Or if ever they are, maybe they are keeping it to theirselves because they always think that no one will be able to understand them or help them in any way. But if ever I have a close friend who falls deeply on gambling addiction, I will not force him to open up but give him the time to think it to himself until he's ready to share his burden. And when that time comes, the best way is just to listen to him and give him advices to control his gambling urge if he still want to get relieved from that worst situation.

Family and friends are also very important factors since they will serve as a strong back ups for the addicted gambler. Otherwise, if he has no one to share, he might get into suicidal which is very common to those addicted gamblers who have never felt support and care from their loved ones.
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November 22, 2023, 05:34:39 PM
I've never helped anyone who was addicted in gambling to stop his addiction and I don't think I can even help anyone do it because as far as I'm concerned, the only person who can stop a gambling addict from his addiction is the affected person. I've been a victim of gambling addiction before and no one was able to help me out of it until when I decided to help myself.
Hmm are you sure? You are here in the forum and you are also wearing a signature from a gambling company, which means you can mostly post on the gambling and gambling discussion boards.

And we all know that most of the topics here are about gambling addictions. So for sure, you have thrown a couple of suggestions on how can one overcome it or possibly avoid it, if they aren't an addict yet. If it's true, that we or other people (either addict or not) can't help the addicted gambler, then we shouldn't be seeing those gambling addiction threads here. We can help them actually but most of the help can only come from their selves.
Quitting gambling would really be starting from ourselves on which we could quit and involved as we do like. Addiction is something that would really be disrupting you on the time that
you are already spending up tons or on the time that you had made your finances that affected then it would really be just that right that you should really be that
mindful on quitting because if not then you would really be making yourself experience the worst things that you could really be having on your life.
You should really be that sensible on the things that you are doing or else it would really be making out such huge disaster or damage or devastation
which it would really make us regret.
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November 22, 2023, 05:27:25 PM
Communication with addicts and telling them that it's okay to share their thoughts is probably one of the best ways to start relieving them off of their pain when it comes to gambling. There simply is a lot of stigma around gambling addiction that people who are affected don't go out asking for help to other people, leaving them in the dark and more likely to continue their activities.

If you have the opportunity to make the change or help the person take the first step away from gambling addiction then do it. You'll never know how much that means to the person you're helping.
If I have an opportunity to help someone, ofcourse I will with all my heart, it doesn't matter the condition but what matters is if the victim is open to accept new changes. Addiction does exists but it's probability of hitting desperate gamblers is 90%. Besides, everyone have one or two problems he or she facing and adding another', doesn't suit the levels. Giving listening ears to addicts, who knows? You can provide solid information and alternatives of helping them. Serving aides to addicts can really improves their chances of eliminating addiction once and for all.
Addiction is something a gambler need to fight or else things might become worsen for them and which can how ever become life threatening. Gambling and winning can be two different things and it is good for us to try to keep winning so that we can earn from what we are doing and not getting disappointed when we bet. There are people that had been gambling for long without results so it is very important for us to do things that would attract winning for us not doing something illegal or something that would affect our personality as a gambler.
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November 21, 2023, 05:19:14 PM
#99
Communication with addicts and telling them that it's okay to share their thoughts is probably one of the best ways to start relieving them off of their pain when it comes to gambling. There simply is a lot of stigma around gambling addiction that people who are affected don't go out asking for help to other people, leaving them in the dark and more likely to continue their activities.

If you have the opportunity to make the change or help the person take the first step away from gambling addiction then do it. You'll never know how much that means to the person you're helping.
If I have an opportunity to help someone, ofcourse I will with all my heart, it doesn't matter the condition but what matters is if the victim is open to accept new changes. Addiction does exists but it's probability of hitting desperate gamblers is 90%. Besides, everyone have one or two problems he or she facing and adding another', doesn't suit the levels. Giving listening ears to addicts, who knows? You can provide solid information and alternatives of helping them. Serving aides to addicts can really improves their chances of eliminating addiction once and for all.
Only a few people out of this world would really be showing up something about caring someone in regarding into those unfortunate conditions or situations because most people wont really
be that mindful nor caring about others situation and would really be just minding about themselves rather than on minding others which it is really just that normal.
Its true that people would really be turning out to be secretive just because they dont really like on getting discriminated or really that frowned upon on what they have done.

This is why they would really be ending up on being quiet and would really be tending to share up on the problems that they do currently have but somewhat there are
people who doesnt really like to share up problems personally which its true that if you dont tend to voice out on your current issues or problems
then it would really be just become worst overtime.
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November 21, 2023, 05:09:17 PM
#98
Communication with addicts and telling them that it's okay to share their thoughts is probably one of the best ways to start relieving them off of their pain when it comes to gambling. There simply is a lot of stigma around gambling addiction that people who are affected don't go out asking for help to other people, leaving them in the dark and more likely to continue their activities.

If you have the opportunity to make the change or help the person take the first step away from gambling addiction then do it. You'll never know how much that means to the person you're helping.
If I have an opportunity to help someone, ofcourse I will with all my heart, it doesn't matter the condition but what matters is if the victim is open to accept new changes. Addiction does exists but it's probability of hitting desperate gamblers is 90%. Besides, everyone have one or two problems he or she facing and adding another', doesn't suit the levels. Giving listening ears to addicts, who knows? You can provide solid information and alternatives of helping them. Serving aides to addicts can really improves their chances of eliminating addiction once and for all.
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November 21, 2023, 03:26:21 PM
#97
How many people have you been able to change after they get addicted to gambling? And what is there level of addiction?

From my own experience, I get to know that those gamblers who are secretly gambling in their rooms and develop the addiction habit have the biggest problem, gambling addiction is like 'wanting more' and never getting enough, you will have all day thinking about gambling, maybe if you do this or you do that, maybe the result will be different.

I was able to talk sense into two different addicted gamblers and they also get help from family members, but the major reason why they too so long in their addiction is because they don't open up to anybody, they kept it all inside of them and it's killing them.

Things get better after they voiced out about their addiction and they are able to get help, any gambling addicts you know of? what method works for you when helping them?

If you are facing gambling addictions and you are keeping it all to yourself, you are worsening your problem, find someone who is close to you and open up to them, letting it all out will bring you some relieve and hopefully you will get better, don't wait till you hit the rock bottom before you say it all out.


I think that addictions are different for everyone. Some people have it worse than others.  As far as I understand the medical explanation, it is because of genetics.

For me personally, I have never become addicted to the point of losing more than 10% of my money in gambling. So I would call my own addiction, if it even exists, controllable. To prevent yourself from feeding your addiction, I recommend setting firm rules in place before you go into the casino. Set limits for funds, loss and wins. No more than 10% of your disposable income/month.

The thing is, the way we think about addiction might be wrong. One person might be extremely addicted to gambling, while other people barely become addicted at all and can claim that they feel their addiction is not anything serious. Of course, some people could say the same thing but lie, out of shame.

So there really is no realistic way to prevent people from becoming addicts. Unless the casino does genetic screening to filter out the people who have higher probability of becoming extremely addicted. But what kind of a casino would do that?
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November 21, 2023, 03:11:18 PM
#96
Communication with addicts and telling them that it's okay to share their thoughts is probably one of the best ways to start relieving them off of their pain when it comes to gambling. There simply is a lot of stigma around gambling addiction that people who are affected don't go out asking for help to other people, leaving them in the dark and more likely to continue their activities.

If you have the opportunity to make the change or help the person take the first step away from gambling addiction then do it. You'll never know how much that means to the person you're helping.
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November 21, 2023, 02:56:53 PM
#95
I've never helped anyone who was addicted in gambling to stop his addiction and I don't think I can even help anyone do it because as far as I'm concerned, the only person who can stop a gambling addict from his addiction is the affected person. I've been a victim of gambling addiction before and no one was able to help me out of it until when I decided to help myself.
Hmm are you sure? You are here in the forum and you are also wearing a signature from a gambling company, which means you can mostly post on the gambling and gambling discussion boards.

And we all know that most of the topics here are about gambling addictions. So for sure, you have thrown a couple of suggestions on how can one overcome it or possibly avoid it, if they aren't an addict yet. If it's true, that we or other people (either addict or not) can't help the addicted gambler, then we shouldn't be seeing those gambling addiction threads here. We can help them actually but most of the help can only come from their selves.
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November 20, 2023, 11:57:31 AM
#94
If I have a friend who a gambling addict, I will stay away against them and might cut off our relationship. Why? no one can change except themselves, if they're a good people they wouldn't become a gambling addict, as simple as that. So having a relationship with them might drag myself to become them or they will keep asking money because they already lose it for gambling.

It's a bit harsh to outright do this, but if this is what will work for you, then do it. Your mental health matters more than what other people will say.

But if I were in the situation, I will reach out and do my best to encourage my friend to get away from gambling and seek rehabilitation to completely disassociate himself in gambling. This way, I can show my concern as a true friend. I won't easily distance myself and rather try my best to let them be enlightened. For me, it's important that I at least got to try before completely giving up. That way, I can say I did what I can and will have no regrets such as having what if's and what could have been's.

It's true that they are the only one who can truly help themselves. But they also need guidance and support from those people that surround them. It's much motivating to recover if there are people cheering from you after all. Just learn to set boundaries of course. If you can't provide financial provision, then just give them moral support instead. Never ever lend them money because that's like tolerating their behavior.
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November 20, 2023, 08:56:20 AM
#93
There are families in which the members of the same family treat each other badly, leading to the isolation of other members who are much more fragile in psychological and financial terms and the part of the relatives who have good financial conditions continue to humiliate and criticize the poorer relatives. , reaching the level where poorer relatives are afraid of richer relatives and as poorer relatives know that if they get into trouble they will not be able to ask rich relatives for help, so what poor relatives do is hide everything they do in their lives. Even when poorer relatives know they are addicted to gambling, they are unlikely to ask other people for help because they are afraid of suffering reprisals.

In other cases, people suffer bullying at work, at school and in the neighborhood, so when they isolate themselves and start gambling a lot to the point of becoming addicted to gambling, they prefer to hide that they are addicted because people will criticize and laugh at them. her. That's why when everyone discovers that someone is addicted, the addiction is already at a very advanced stage and the damage done by the addict is also very great, because he goes into debt to continue gambling, he also sells other people's goods and sometimes he gets trapped. is bankrupt and that's all the relatives who pay all the bills including hospital bills to cure the addict
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November 20, 2023, 05:33:21 AM
#92
How many people have you been able to change after they get addicted to gambling? And what is there level of addiction?

From my own experience, I get to know that those gamblers who are secretly gambling in their rooms and develop the addiction habit have the biggest problem, gambling addiction is like 'wanting more' and never getting enough, you will have all day thinking about gambling, maybe if you do this or you do that, maybe the result will be different.

I was able to talk sense into two different addicted gamblers and they also get help from family members, but the major reason why they too so long in their addiction is because they don't open up to anybody, they kept it all inside of them and it's killing them.

Things get better after they voiced out about their addiction and they are able to get help, any gambling addicts you know of? what method works for you when helping them?

If you are facing gambling addictions and you are keeping it all to yourself, you are worsening your problem, find someone who is close to you and open up to them, letting it all out will bring you some relieve and hopefully you will get better, don't wait till you hit the rock bottom before you say it all out.

Personally I have not changed any gambling addict probably because bi have had little to almost no contact with most of them and aswell I don't try to change anyone because most times you trying to change may not turn out well as they may not change completely, but may temporarily stop.

I do advice they get professional help because I think that way they get to completely heal and get to recover faster and better than when been advised by a random individual, and the chances they go back are usually very small because these professional help take it upon their self since they have been paid to ensure these person don't go back to their forma habits and become better person, so personal I always refer to professional help as I see it to be the best and what will most likely work for them them.
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November 20, 2023, 03:25:28 AM
#91
On the other hand, if the level of addiction is still tolerable, there's always a chance for these people to help themselves on their own without the help of others. It now depends on how strong they are to battle their temptation to do gambling. It's tough work too but if successfully done, what a relief.
Because what we know is that bad habits that are already attached will be difficult to cure, especially if it is not with one's own intentions, no matter how strong the family and people around them try to cure an addict, it will certainly be difficult too, that's why self-awareness is needed to be able to emphasize intentions so that We can stop or at least slowly reduce our gambling activities so we don't gamble too actively.

Most people never want to realize that they are addicted and don't even care about themselves, so it's difficult to detect it if it's not too serious, but if it's still at a tolerable stage, it's possible to recover quickly, namely reducing gambling habits and activities. can help by switching to other hobbies or other activities. my friend once tried that and it worked, nothing can help us except starting from ourselves.
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November 20, 2023, 02:09:30 AM
#90
Another topic from the "golden advice series." If you feel addicted, talk to someone.
It's pretty much like telling someone, if you're getting abused by your husband, leave the house and get help.
If you feel sad, go meet some friends and you're going to feel better.
If you get addicted to drugs or alcohol, go to a rehab and they'll help you.

Thanks for saying the obvious, OP. I'm sure this saved some addicted gamblers from falling deeper into the bottomless pit of addiction.
What you just said about addicted gamblers getting help by talking to people around them is absolutely true but one big challenge that makes most of the the addicted gamblers not disclose their gambling habits to anyone is because of the fear for being harshly judged. The world of today are filled with people who would rather judge someone for his shortcomings instead of helping the person to overcome his predicaments. It's the stigmatization that comes with opening their addiction in gambling that stops a lot of addicts from telling anyone.
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November 20, 2023, 01:57:35 AM
#89
Why is it my job to change anyone? In a perfect world everything would be free, people would help each other, noone would kill anyone, no adultry, no famine, no bad shit period. We obviously do not live in a perfect world and most only care about themselves no matter who it hurts.

I haven't seen anyone in such bad shape from gambling that I should intervene. People I know gamble what they can afford and go on with life.
Well, yes, maybe you don't have a care or concern for other people, but what the OP is talking about is that if you have someone who has the case of being addicted, maybe if they reach out to you as a friend, will you not help him? Or, let's say, you don't have the ability to help your friend, but can your conscience take it? That's what the OP is referring to: that maybe a gambling addict could wake up from their addiction if someone would reach out for them and help them get back on their feet. But you are also right that in this world there's no perfect, so maybe there are addicts to gambling who also don't have a concern for the people around them who could be affected by their gambling habit. But the thing is, the person itself should help himself; without the dedication to change, there will be no change, and we can't do anything from that.
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November 19, 2023, 08:46:37 PM
#88
I was able to talk sense into two different addicted gamblers and they also get help from family members, but the major reason why they too so long in their addiction is because they don't open up to anybody, they kept it all inside of them and it's killing them.

Things get better after they voiced out about their addiction and they are able to get help, any gambling addicts you know of? what method works for you when helping them?

This is exactly why they say that the first thing an addicted person needs to do is: seek help from a professional or a family member or close friend.
If a person who really cares about the player finds out about his addiction, they will certainly "torment" him and monitor him often enough to make him stop playing or to reduce the risk and have more control over his bets. .

Often the addicted player knows he is in trouble and ends up withdrawing more and more, which clearly makes his problem more difficult.
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November 19, 2023, 07:59:14 PM
#87
If you are facing gambling addictions and you are keeping it all to yourself, you are worsening your problem, find someone who is close to you and open up to them, letting it all out will bring you some relieve and hopefully you will get better, don't wait till you hit the rock bottom before you say it all out.

If the level of gambling addiction is already at its peak and now in the stage where it's uncontrollable, how can these people be able to help their own?

These people with that high level of addiction will really keep that problem to themselves and won't talk about it to anyone, even with their family and close friends. It's hard and tough. In that particular situation, someone has to step up to help that gambler even by force if necessary.

On the other hand, if the level of addiction is still tolerable, there's always a chance for these people to help themselves on their own without the help of others. It now depends on how strong they are to battle their temptation to do gambling. It's tough work too but if successfully done, what a relief.
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