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Quote from: fillippone on March 13, 2024, 07:20:44 PM

A couple of additions

I added both Portal and Bitkey hardare wallets.
Source codes can be found on their github pages but I would wait to see if this is actually reproducible.
Portal is still in pre-order phase, so I think we are going to wait few months for main release.

Quote from: satscraper on March 14, 2024, 04:50:43 AM

To reflect the hard reality, I think, there is a need to refresh the foot-note to Passport device in HW list.

Updated and modified slightly, but I don't think this was so important Wink

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Portal by TwenyTwo

Quote from: https://store.twenty-two.xyz/products/portal-hardware-wallet

Yes. Portal is still in the preorder phase.
I do anyway believe it is an interesting product to be aware of. At least for his innovative approach to mobile environment and UX, based on NFC contacts.

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Quote from: fillippone on March 13, 2024, 07:20:44 PM

Portal by TwenyTwo

Quote from: https://store.twenty-two.xyz/products/portal-hardware-wallet

@dkbit98, To reflect the hard reality, I think, there is a need to refresh the foot-note to Passport device in HW list.

The current one states "using old ColdCard code". I would suggest something like this "using the forked ColdCard code with many changes already made and envisaged afterward".

Grounds for this : "An Open Letter to NVK and Coldcard", Passport Firmware Releases, , "Coinkite's BBQr: A Troubling Development in Bitcoin Airgapped Wallet Standards"

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A couple of additions:

Portal by TwenyTwo

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Portal: Mobile-native Hardware Wallet by TwentyTwo Devices
Portal is a mobile-native hardware wallet designed to keep your keys safe and seamlessly integrate into any mobile wallet app. It uses NFC technology to safely and effectively connect with any modern smartphone and doesn't need cables or batteries - it's completely powered by the NFC.

BitKey

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Bitkey brings together software, hardware, and advanced security to modernize bitcoin ownership

The code is open source

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Quote from: thebitcoinhole on July 27, 2023, 12:59:09 PM

According to its license, CoolWallet seems to be source-available, not open source: https://github.com/CoolBitX-Technology/coolwallet-pro-se/blob/main/LICENSE

It seems that you are correct about this, it looks something similar like ColdCard license, but they only made changes few days ago so let's wait and see if they add proper Open Source license.
I asked CoolWallet for explanation and I will update list when I get official reply from them, but for now I am adding special note for CoolWallet Pro.
This is still better than closed source license, but it's not good to call something open source if it's not.

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Hi.

We have a section in our website comparing all the open source wallets: https://thebitcoinhole.com/wallets/firmware/open-source and another with all the wallets with source available: https://thebitcoinhole.com/wallets/firmware/source-available

According to its license, CoolWallet seems to be source-available, not open source: https://github.com/CoolBitX-Technology/coolwallet-pro-se/blob/main/LICENSE

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List of Open Source hardware wallets is updated today with few new additions.
CoolWallet yesterday release Open Source code for their Coolwallet Pro SE hardware wallet and they posted it on their github page, so you can report any bugs you notice.
Note that this device is based on Java Card OpenPlatform, but some crypto algorithms can't be open source due to license constraints.
At this moment we have no information if firmware for CoolWallet S regular version will also be released as open source or not.

Coolwallet Pro SE source code:
https://github.com/CoolBitX-Technology/coolwallet-pro-se

Coolwallet blog article explaining this decision:
https://www.coolwallet.io/coolwallet-will-open-source-its-hardware-wallets-secure-element-chip-code/

OneKey Touch was added along with other two models from OneKey (CLassic and Mini).
Another addition is upcoming Keystone3 devices, that includes both regular and pro version.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on February 09, 2023, 04:02:40 PM

I don't own OneKey hardware wallet so I can't answer everything you want, but I know they are forked from Trezor wallet with added secure element ATECC608A.
They are making regular updates for their native OneKey app, but not all of their devices have battery, only OneKey Classic 100 mAh and OneKey Touch 800 mAh.
I am not going to recommend any hardware wallet, you have the list with more information, and you can make your own decision based on your needs and coins your use.

oh sorry I was convinced you had a OneKey, thanks anyway for answering some of my questions. I'll take a closer look at your list, I've been getting paranoid about closed source hw lately and was hoping to get some advice on the buying an open source one

If you are paranoid, honestly get yourself a Passport batch 2. It is on the expensive side, but it's worth its price, since the hardware (and of course, software) is all open source and verifiable, so it has no hidden mini chips in the camera, display or elsewhere running closed firmware. It is also just very convenient to use.
Click the hyperlink for my full review, otherwise I'll start repeating myself.. Wink

I had never heard of this hardware wallet passport batch 2, thank you for letting me know, I saw the prices and they are a bit high but obviously you pay for the quality, as soon as I have two free minutes I read your review carefully so don't ask questions you may have already answered in the thread. Thanks again

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Quote from: dkbit98 on February 09, 2023, 04:02:40 PM

I don't own OneKey hardware wallet so I can't answer everything you want, but I know they are forked from Trezor wallet with added secure element ATECC608A.
They are making regular updates for their native OneKey app, but not all of their devices have battery, only OneKey Classic 100 mAh and OneKey Touch 800 mAh.
I am not going to recommend any hardware wallet, you have the list with more information, and you can make your own decision based on your needs and coins your use.

oh sorry I was convinced you had a OneKey, thanks anyway for answering some of my questions. I'll take a closer look at your list, I've been getting paranoid about closed source hw lately and was hoping to get some advice on the buying an open source one

If you are paranoid, honestly get yourself a Passport batch 2. It is on the expensive side, but it's worth its price, since the hardware (and of course, software) is all open source and verifiable, so it has no hidden mini chips in the camera, display or elsewhere running closed firmware. It is also just very convenient to use.
Click the hyperlink for my full review, otherwise I'll start repeating myself.. Wink

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Quote from: dkbit98 on February 10, 2023, 05:37:46 AM

Quote from: Lillominato89 on February 09, 2023, 05:20:27 PM

oh sorry I was convinced you had a OneKey, thanks anyway for answering some of my questions. I'll take a closer look at your list, I've been getting paranoid about closed source hw lately and was hoping to get some advice on the buying an open source one

I wanted to buy one for my testing when it was dirt cheap, but I gave up on that idea and I didn't want to wait for delivery from China.
Open source doesn't automatically mean that something is more secure, it's easier for secure experts to inspect the code to find bugs, but that can also be done by malicious actors.
You might want to read up the latest post I wrote about OneKey wallet:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/onekey-hardware-wallet-hacked-5439320

you are absolutely right, open source is not synonymous with security, but in some ways it is always safer than a closed source, which you must necessarily trust! by that I don't mean that there are malicious companies to steal funds, but scams are always around the corner. that's why I got paranoia 😅. I've had a look at your new thread and I have to say it's a good thing that OneKey commissioned this bugbounty. they fixed quite a bit of a problem

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on February 09, 2023, 05:20:27 PM

oh sorry I was convinced you had a OneKey, thanks anyway for answering some of my questions. I'll take a closer look at your list, I've been getting paranoid about closed source hw lately and was hoping to get some advice on the buying an open source one

I wanted to buy one for my testing when it was dirt cheap, but I gave up on that idea and I didn't want to wait for delivery from China.
Open source doesn't automatically mean that something is more secure, it's easier for secure experts to inspect the code to find bugs, but that can also be done by malicious actors.
You might want to read up the latest post I wrote about OneKey wallet:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/onekey-hardware-wallet-hacked-5439320

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Quote from: dkbit98 on February 09, 2023, 04:02:40 PM

I don't own OneKey hardware wallet so I can't answer everything you want, but I know they are forked from Trezor wallet with added secure element ATECC608A.
They are making regular updates for their native OneKey app, but not all of their devices have battery, only OneKey Classic 100 mAh and OneKey Touch 800 mAh.
I am not going to recommend any hardware wallet, you have the list with more information, and you can make your own decision based on your needs and coins your use.

oh sorry I was convinced you had a OneKey, thanks anyway for answering some of my questions. I'll take a closer look at your list, I've been getting paranoid about closed source hw lately and was hoping to get some advice on the buying an open source one

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on February 09, 2023, 03:22:54 PM

I think it's time for me to change hardware wallet, this time I would like to take an Open source hardware wallet that doesn't cost much, I looked at your list and the onekey classic caught my attention, it looks like a good device but I would like to ask what do you think? Are the updates regular? does the battery have a long life? Or would you recommend a different wallet?

I don't own OneKey hardware wallet so I can't answer everything you want, but I know they are forked from Trezor wallet with added secure element ATECC608A.
They are making regular updates for their native OneKey app, but not all of their devices have battery, only OneKey Classic 100 mAh and OneKey Touch 800 mAh.
I am not going to recommend any hardware wallet, you have the list with more information, and you can make your own decision based on your needs and coins your use.

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I think it's time for me to change hardware wallet, this time I would like to take an Open source hardware wallet that doesn't cost much, I looked at your list and the onekey classic caught my attention, it looks like a good device but I would like to ask what do you think? Are the updates regular? does the battery have a long life? Or would you recommend a different wallet? thanks to whoever replies

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Quote from: kkdao on January 02, 2023, 11:27:43 PM

Should add Jade DIY hww to the list. Blockstream has a repo on their github specifically for esp32 related devices. See here for visuals: https://twitter.com/notgrubles/status/1355209508335841280

Jade hardware wallet is already in this list for some time and I know it's open source.

New hardware wallet added today is called Hito.
They are still in pre-sale phase, and they promised to release open source code when they complete pre-sale, but I would be careful and wait for github links to be released.
Additionally, someone (like WalletScrutiny) should verify if code is going to be reproducible or not inreality.

I'm just saying Jade has retail, and DIY device options

Not really interested in a shitcoin hww, but thanks?

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Quote from: kkdao on January 02, 2023, 11:27:43 PM

Should add Jade DIY hww to the list. Blockstream has a repo on their github specifically for esp32 related devices. See here for visuals: https://twitter.com/notgrubles/status/1355209508335841280

Jade hardware wallet is already in this list for some time and I know it's open source.

New hardware wallet added today is called Hito.
They are still in pre-sale phase, and they promised to release open source code when they complete pre-sale, but I would be careful and wait for github links to be released.
Additionally, someone (like WalletScrutiny) should verify if code is going to be reproducible or not inreality.

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Should add Jade DIY hww to the list. Blockstream has a repo on their github specifically for esp32 related devices. See here for visuals: https://twitter.com/notgrubles/status/1355209508335841280

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Quote from: hZti on November 27, 2022, 11:36:52 AM

Very weird hardware wallet if you ask me, since it depends on a splitted seed that is only stored at four cards. If you need to set up a new hardware wallet you can not put on the seed in just any device but you have to hope that they are still on the market in that moment. Also you are lost if the card is not readable anymore in maybe 20+ years.

I think this approach is much safer than what most other hardware wallets are using today, especially if they are closed source black boxes.
Some DIY signing devices are also using this approach of not storing keys and secrets on device, but you import them quickly with QR codes, or slower manually.
I am not supporting or defending Cypherock, but they are doing something in a differently and I applaud for that.

Quote from: Tibu on November 29, 2022, 03:15:06 AM

By the way, thank you for this very helpful thread.

This information should still be verified, don't trust me aka some random geek on internet that could be wrong

I just wanted to know this information myself and I couldn't find it anywhere, so I decided to collect everything in one topic.

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Hardware and open source software solutions.

Hardware wallet ecosystem can be a jungle for newcomers... And it's even more true when the marketing kicks out (fancy screen, +10000 (shit)coins supported, finger print sensor...)

Imho, the best security is the one you can manage from A to Z, knowing the risk on each steps and how to mitigate it. No need the latest high end, fully equiped hardware wallet that will soon or later no more working because of a poor camera or a poor finger reader, right ?

I'll keep on eye on this thread...
By the way, thank you for this very helpful thread.

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Quote from: hZti on November 27, 2022, 11:36:52 AM

Very weird hardware wallet if you ask me, since it depends on a splitted seed that is only stored at four cards. If you need to set up a new hardware wallet you can not put on the seed in just any device but you have to hope that they are still on the market in that moment. Also you are lost if the card is not readable anymore in maybe 20+ years.

The device should work, no matter if they're still on the market or not.
If a card is broken, it shouldn't matter either, since you have multiple ones and only need 2 to sign, as far as I know.

I personally just find it inconvenient having to carry 2 cards or 1 card + the device around to quickly sign a transaction. For me, hardware wallets are all about convenient, secure Bitcoin usage - cold storage can be done very securely and reliably with paper and / or metal.

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