Topic: [LIST]Open Merit Source Applications,waiting list. - page 6. (Read 3965 times)

We've had some discussion about the merit distribution in our local board before. Before the cryptotalk campaign where many high ranked members woke up and became active again, merits coming from the local community were not that high. Without other merit sources like Darkstar_ who frequently visits our local board before, we would not be exceeding a hundred per week.  

Philippine merit stats

@Cabalism13 is one of the local merit sources with one of the biggest monthly allocation (100 smerit) that's why your local board is very active in regards to him meriting you guys. Most local sources don't have as much. In as much as I buy into the idea of supporting local boards I don't think we should turn those boards into merit farming grounds where native users just use to rank up.

We have recieved numerous report on the forum of favoritism been the order of the day in most of these local board, which is then used to increase their voting power to elect DT members etc until that can be put under controlled, giving more power might just be a wrong move.

Merit source in each local boards is beneficial if "ranking members" will be the basis. Base on my observations, our local board, "Pilipinas," has a lot of merit activity. Because each local member is supporting each other and we have our own merit source, which is Cabalism13, He is good in terms of giving merit in our local members.

And again, based on my observation. Other international boards have a small merit activity, I think we need to boost the merit source assignments in terms of boards. The local community is beneficial if you want to rank up and gain some merits (for me). Still, other boards seem to be a lack of members giving merits. I think that is our problem right now.

We have debated this topic severally and the stats shows, lower ranked users are those getting the fairest share of the merit system. Most of the high merited members you see now were once lower ranked users and merit earned contributed to our ranking up. When you see one or two merit given to legendary or hero member you don't consider that a waste especially as every rank deserve to be merited for their post quality. Every rank gets merited for funny memes at time not just legendary accounts.

I earned more merit as a lower ranked users compared to now that I'm a higher ranked user. That along should give you an idea, generally people tend to merit lower ranked users more but it's up to this guys to put in efforts into constructing their posts and contribution positively and I'm quite positive they won't go unnoticed.


It's not mandatory to make a new application but they can try that, @Coolcryptovator did exactly that and it worked for him since your timing could be a key factor to influence theymos's decision making. That their applications hasn't been accepted doesn't automatically means they're less qualifed to be source since most of them are quite quality contributors.

If the forum and the merit system have worked and supported each other well enough since late of the January of 2018, I don't think we really need more merit sources. More sources is good but not vital thing to maintain the forum's and the merit system's performance.

Recent months, I have seen very little complaints on users who got troubles with the merit system and unable to rank up just because lack of merit sources.

Merit sources do boost post quality of some users and do not affect post quality of others. I meant post quality depends mainly on users themselves and not depends on the merit system or any merit source or how many merit sources the forum has in total.

Shit posters or bounty reporters are among types of users who do not affect by the merit system and merit sources. They are kind of unchangeable users who don't care anything (post quality, rank, total merit sources, their potential to earn merits) except their daily/ weekly annoying bounty reports.

For old applications, if theymos had to pick, he would have done so already. No need for him to wait 1 year. And 1 year old applications are irrelevant by now as well. Alex and Pugman, if they are not merit sources yet, should make new applications.

This list will definitely increase best candidates chances and forum admin could check all open applications easily here. Best part is that old application's will also come under selection process again. It will be much easier for theymos to pick best applicants one by one from the list. Hopefully we will get more new merit sources soon who will encourage quality posters by giving a good amount of merit.

Low rank members have got the short end of the stick. undoubtedly. More than Heros like us.
I've seen some times merit is passed around among high ranking accounts when they have already reached the topmost levels of their accounts.

What's sad is they're doing it by posting memes and jokes while the low rank members are making really unique posts.
Yet they're either getting bogged down by negligence, ignorance, or by signature spammers.

I can see some have applied in 2018 February, why can't these people be informed that they are basically rejected? For whatever reasons. No need to keep them hanging and waiting around for more than a year. Specially speaking of Pugman and Alex_Sr.

I am not sure if they are already a MS, if they are then my rant is useless.

Beyond that Meriting low ranked users has increasingly been becoming a tough job that even the moderators are not doing diligently these days.

I get it, I only said in the past that "Getting Merit isn't a right, it's a privilege" - but right now its becoming a circle-jerking club.

When I initially applied for being the merit source to support my local board, none were really aware that there was already a merit source dedicated for my local board since they were really very busy with their real life and haven't logged in the forum for quite some time. Probably around August - September this year, they became active after a 8 month long inactivity time frame and have confirmed that they were indeed a source but had been allocated negligible source merits each month. They were really a great poster, but once I got to know about they being a source I thought of taking back my application, but considering their inactivity I have once again started bumping it back to support the fellow forum members. My smerits are not really enough and I have been too stingy in giving away my smerits.

Quite a handful of them have ranked up (from Newbie - Full Member) solely by posting in my local board and when they didn't receive enough merits I recommended their topic to the merit sources. Since for majority of the time we speak only English throughout the country as well as in the forum, merit sources and global moderators find it easy to merit the worthy posts as well as handle my reports. English is the only primary reason that we are still functioning as a better non-spammy board even without any help from theymos either for the appointment of a merit source or for the appointment of the moderator.

I can't believe that some application for merit source are from last year!
After my own application for merit source I had to wait 3-4 months and I was thinking it's to long but some people waiting almost 2 years!
I can't understand why.
Any way, good luck to everybody!
I think that specially local sections needs more merit source since some users write only in their own languages and deserve equal chance to receive merit for god quality posts. 

@iasenko made a creative and helpful thread for all merit source applicants. The thread is nearly same as list of ban appeal (months ago) created by Alex_Sr ([BAN APPEAL]UPDATE: Total table + Ban status (Need feedback from Global mods)). They both help admins, and moderators have one place to pay attention on.

Nevertheless, there is at least one adverse effect from it, and somehow goes beyond core vision of theymos when he launched the merit system.

There is another thread has nearly same purpose but it focuses on merit sources, not applied merit sources (from @Coin_1, as I remembered).

Basically, despite the fact that such threads go beyond theymos' core vision but they do not negatively affect the forum, and as I saw merit sources or merit source applicants nowadays do no longer care too much about their privacy or secret to be sources.

Anyway, @iasenko did not make anything wrong and I believe most of the thread's viewers do not. Moreover, good merit sources will do reject any sort of merit-begging efforts that chase or attack them when merit beggars know they are already merit sources.

What’s pretty amazing is that nearly all applicants have a Local Board backbone, besides being well known on the main English boards. It’s good to have candidates that would perform on multiple boards, whilst looking over Local Boards in the event.

Thanks iasenko.
This thread is better than a bump.
I hope theymos will review pending applications and give at least a small amount of smerit to those who will do a good job

You can remove me from the list, I don't want to be a merit source any longer and as such I did not proceed with my application thread (will archive it now, thanks).

Thanks @Vispilio and @iasenko.
Yes this is my Merit source application:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/march-2020-update-kalemder-merit-source-application-for-the-turkish-board-5183702

exactly that's the one, I think @Kalemder eventually turned it into an official application, if not on that particular thread, then elsewhere, and he addressed his post to theymos,

let's see if he (Kalemder) comes to confirm it here...

Suggestions:
1.Sort by date of applications
2.Collection of 10 Posts if achieved or not. (Ex. Hhampuz haven't started a single thing on his own application until now, so 10 posts has not been filled yet)

Its also necessary IMO. That's all.

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🤔🤨 I thought Hhampuz, pugman and bitmover was already a Source?...

According to the link given by suchmoon, he is already a MS> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/march-2020-update-kalemder-merit-source-application-for-the-turkish-board-5183702


Are you talking about this post : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52424104
I wend trough it but I didn't find really an application or request to theymos, althow it can be used as one for sure.

I think you're correct.

Theymos really should make a decision on these guys who applied to be merit sources--I know at least one member, Jet Cash, expressed much frustration at being a merit source and seemed to be losing enthusiasm for the position.  He may have changed his mind since, but I bet he isn't the only one.  I think the forum needs members who really want to be merit sources, because they're the ones who'll take it seriously and will probably do a good job. 

Theymos made a bunch of new merit sources last September, some of which hadn't even applied.  I don't know if they ever turned out to be good ones or not, because I don't even know who they all are.  I was one of them, and I'm glad he made me a merit source but I think it would be a good idea to tap at least some of those who applied in 2019.  There aren't many, and more circulating sMerits might ease the difficulty of ranking up a little bit.

OP, thanks for listing them.  I had been wondering how many applications there were that hadn't been decided on.