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Topic: Litecoin build for noobs: 3x 7950s (1.8 MH/s) in a $10 crate case (Read 78984 times)

member
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hi can you someopne help me. in czech republic is not possible to buy 7950 or 7970 graphic cards. they are just sold out and never going to be in sale again, because of new generation of graphic cards.

for example these cards i can buy here (which is most similar to 7970 and 7950?):

http://www.alza.cz/sapphire-r9-280x-dual-x-oc-battlefield-4-d506257.htm
www.alza.cz/asus-r9280x-dc2t-3gd5-d486248.htm
http://www.alza.cz/sapphire-r9-280x-toxic-d486004.htm
http://www.alza.cz/sapphire-r9-280x-vapor-x-oc-d484427.htm

or

http://www.alza.cz/evga-geforce-gtx770-superclocked-acx-d434545.htm
http://www.alza.cz/evga-geforce-gtx770-superclocked-acx-dual-bios-d471179.htm

thanks for your tips.
newbie
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some new rig porn

https://i.imgur.com/VzfLkvw.jpg

installed a shelf in my garage, these sit up here just hashing away all day

NOTE THE SEXY PARABOLIC DOLLAR STORE WIFI ANTENNA

Old thread but one of my favs...

LOL at WIFI...did it boost your signal by much? 
newbie
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Finally sorted a photo out of my finished rig in its permanent case/open air frame.

https://i.imgur.com/8jTGtmj.jpg
newbie
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I have since switched to CGminer Wink

DDR3 Ram is so cheap though the cost of 8GB is worth it. Especially if the rig is ever repurposed Smiley

Reaper appears to be more stable and gets around the same mh\s. I was running cgminer for a couple of hours before it crashed...

Although cgminer does give a lot more info Wink

cgminer saves you money too, don't need 8g ram.
newbie
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Thank's for answer. You are rigth MSI is much cooler than Gigabyte Smiley.

But there is something strange with all my rigs (they are 2 cards per mobo) - one card is cool, and the other one is overheating.

I can't see any cause of that, both cards has same conditions. Anyone has that problem and know what to do? I heard something about dummy plug, tried this but it doesn't change anything.


Software:
AMD 12.8
SDK 2.7
Cgminer 3.3.0
It seems to be the most stable combination

Hardware:
Asrock Extreme 4 Z77
2 x MSI 7950 TwinFrozr III
4 GB Ram
650 Gold PSU
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1005
some new rig porn



installed a shelf in my garage, these sit up here just hashing away all day

NOTE THE SEXY PARABOLIC DOLLAR STORE WIFI ANTENNA
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1005
I'm quite new here so first of all I want to say hello Wink

Second thank's for great tutorial Tacotime !

But I'm wondering, is it the most cost effective way to mine litecon?
Why don't change:
1)motherboard to
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157339&Tpk=fm2a85x%20extreme6&IsVirtualParent=1
(ASRock FM2A85X Extreme6)
2)processor to http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113343
(ATI APU A4-4000)
3)hdd to http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820239405
(Kingston DataTraveler 111 32GB USB 3.0)
4)graphic card to
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125414&Tpk=gigabyte%207950&IsVirtualParent=1
(Gigabyte 7950 - it's cheaper and it has 3 fans instead of 2)

As you can see all those parts are cheaper than suggested by Tacotime.
Futhermore with ati processor we can (theoretically?) mine litecoin on extra graphic
card built-in processor Wink

So I have three questions:
1)What do you thing about those changes in configuration? (I read something that using ATI CPU decrease efficiency of GPU's but I didn't find any approval of that information)
2)Is it hard/possible to configure that stuff (3 x 7950 + APU) + installation on USB (Ubuntu).
3)Will Gigabyte cards be cooler - each has 3 fan's.

Thank's very much for your reply Smiley

P.S. A month ago I built something like Tacotime rig to check if I can mine and it's quite OK. But I am going to enhance my mining power and now it must be as cost efficient as it is possible ;] Maybe I should put my mining rig in China, i heard that they have cheap eletric power Smiley.

Avoid using APU, onboard GPU uses slower DDR3 memory
Gigabyte cards run hotter and have shitter VRM heat management (--> cards way more likely to fry from voltage fluctuations)
USB thumb drive works fine for linux and cgminer but you will lose voltage control (and thus pay about 20% more in electricity costs and will also be more likely to kill your cards with heat)
full member
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Reaper appears to be more stable and gets around the same mh\s. I was running cgminer for a couple of hours before it crashed...

Although cgminer does give a lot more info Wink

cgminer saves you money too, don't need 8g ram.
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
@fcmatt
I totaly agree what it is slow (I think 20-30 khash/sec is realistic), you should always buy stable components too Smiley.
But talking to the point:

1)You buy cheaper components (as I show examples)
2)You aren't forced to mine on APU, you do it only if you want to (I think extra 40 W (?) is worth it, I know it is less efficient that 7950 but it's extra Wink )

So why not buy such a changed rig? Are AMD motherboard chipset or CPU not stable? Or are they really immpossible to configurate well?

Thanks for your answer.

P.S. What about USB instead of HDD, and Gigabyte 7950 instead of MSI Frozen ? Smiley
legendary
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Know that the APUs are slow as crap. Think in terms of 20-30 khash/sec and you just suck up a lot of power to the cpu/apu.
I thought the same thing then realized it was better to get the vid cards nice and stable as it might have been causing crashes
early on when I built it. Now I just dont bother and never went back to it.
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
I'm quite new here so first of all I want to say hello Wink

Second thank's for great tutorial Tacotime !

But I'm wondering, is it the most cost effective way to mine litecon?
Why don't change:
1)motherboard to
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157339&Tpk=fm2a85x%20extreme6&IsVirtualParent=1
(ASRock FM2A85X Extreme6)
2)processor to http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113343
(ATI APU A4-4000)
3)hdd to http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820239405
(Kingston DataTraveler 111 32GB USB 3.0)
4)graphic card to
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125414&Tpk=gigabyte%207950&IsVirtualParent=1
(Gigabyte 7950 - it's cheaper and it has 3 fans instead of 2)

As you can see all those parts are cheaper than suggested by Tacotime.
Futhermore with ati processor we can (theoretically?) mine litecoin on extra graphic
card built-in processor Wink

So I have three questions:
1)What do you thing about those changes in configuration? (I read something that using ATI CPU decrease efficiency of GPU's but I didn't find any approval of that information)
2)Is it hard/possible to configure that stuff (3 x 7950 + APU) + installation on USB (Ubuntu).
3)Will Gigabyte cards be cooler - each has 3 fan's.

Thank's very much for your reply Smiley

P.S. A month ago I built something like Tacotime rig to check if I can mine and it's quite OK. But I am going to enhance my mining power and now it must be as cost efficient as it is possible ;] Maybe I should put my mining rig in China, i heard that they have cheap eletric power Smiley.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
i have a problem with afterburner.. i build this same exact rig as described. but every day about 2-3 times a day my computer frozes and i cant do nothing than restart. still not sure why is this happening, but today i saw that everything is working well . guiminer shows hashing in progress, but pool shows zero.. and when i clicked afterburner icon, computer frozed and was nothing possible to do than just restart.. someone have some idea?? or same problem?

Adjust your clocks and/or voltage. This happens to me when I set the voltage too high.

im just adjusting clocks, but not woltage.. some recomendation for this setup, about woltage?
i have core clock 1045 and mem clock 1400..

Make sure you adjust the woltage of the nuclear wessel while you're at it.  Cheesy
newbie
Activity: 29
Merit: 0
Reaper appears to be more stable and gets around the same mh\s. I was running cgminer for a couple of hours before it crashed...

Although cgminer does give a lot more info Wink
full member
Activity: 147
Merit: 100
switch to cgminer for better performance at same temps/speeds


Using Reaper to mine.

Cheers
newbie
Activity: 29
Merit: 0
I built my litecoin rig recently:

Mobo: Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5 AMD 990FX
Ram: Geil Black Dragon 10666 8gb
CPU: AMD Piledriver FX-6 Six Core 6300 Black Edition 3.50GHz
PSU: XFX 1250W Black Edition Pro '80+ Gold'
GPU: 4* MSI 7950s

Base cost £357 (£428 in VAT)
GPUs cost £180 (£220 in VAT) * 4

(I know its not a great photo Tongue)
http://cl.ly/image/0N2l2y2O242z

It is in an old pc case that has been hacked apart. A temporary plastic structure has been set up to hold the graphics cards above the mobo using risers to connect to the mobo. The plastic will be converted to a more permanent steal structure soon. The card that is currently horizontal will also be made vertical allow greater avg spacing between the cards.

Current output without voltage tweaking is at 2.270mh/s pulling 1170watts.

I have recently used MSI to lower the voltage 20% it is now running at 2.114mh/s pulling 850watts

Temps etc: http://cl.ly/image/1s0a3N262l1p

Any other upgrades I could do? Not running any overclocking atm. Every time I overclock I seem to get worse performance?

Using Reaper to mine.

Cheers
member
Activity: 89
Merit: 10
i have a problem with afterburner.. i build this same exact rig as described. but every day about 2-3 times a day my computer frozes and i cant do nothing than restart. still not sure why is this happening, but today i saw that everything is working well . guiminer shows hashing in progress, but pool shows zero.. and when i clicked afterburner icon, computer frozed and was nothing possible to do than just restart.. someone have some idea?? or same problem?

Adjust your clocks and/or voltage. This happens to me when I set the voltage too high.

im just adjusting clocks, but not woltage.. some recomendation for this setup, about woltage?
i have core clock 1045 and mem clock 1400..

I run 1000/1200 on all my cards, getting ~620kH/s from each one on an average. Voltage set to between 1000mV and 1100mV.
Uninstall afterburner and use Sapphire Trixx instead, even if you don't have Sapphire cards. It works better for some people, might be worth a try.
Just remember to check the "Force constant voltage"-box in the settings, makes them run more stable.

hmm great, after a while i posted that rig is running smoothly about 2 days it frozed again. so i restarted it and now it is running only about 5-10 minutes and frozes again.. grrrr.. i tried everything and now im starting to think, that is something wrong with 1 pciexpress slot at mobo.. 
one card in slot2 is all the time reseting voltage at trixx from 1100 to 1250. so i switched cards and this porblem is still the same by that card in slot 2. when i take out card from slot 2 rig is running smoothly without a problem.
so i think i need to change mobo Sad

edit: and event log is saying that there is a critical error Krenel-power id 41- did someone had same problem?? i really dont want to change mobo. still hoping, that problem is somewhere else.
member
Activity: 89
Merit: 10
i have a problem with afterburner.. i build this same exact rig as described. but every day about 2-3 times a day my computer frozes and i cant do nothing than restart. still not sure why is this happening, but today i saw that everything is working well . guiminer shows hashing in progress, but pool shows zero.. and when i clicked afterburner icon, computer frozed and was nothing possible to do than just restart.. someone have some idea?? or same problem?

Adjust your clocks and/or voltage. This happens to me when I set the voltage too high.

im just adjusting clocks, but not woltage.. some recomendation for this setup, about woltage?
i have core clock 1045 and mem clock 1400..

I run 1000/1200 on all my cards, getting ~620kH/s from each one on an average. Voltage set to between 1000mV and 1100mV.
Uninstall afterburner and use Sapphire Trixx instead, even if you don't have Sapphire cards. It works better for some people, might be worth a try.
Just remember to check the "Force constant voltage"-box in the settings, makes them run more stable.

looks like this is working well. i'm running with trixx and your recomendet setup for about 2 days, without problem.
thanks man. Smiley
member
Activity: 89
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great, thanks for tip.. i'll try .
newbie
Activity: 36
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i have a problem with afterburner.. i build this same exact rig as described. but every day about 2-3 times a day my computer frozes and i cant do nothing than restart. still not sure why is this happening, but today i saw that everything is working well . guiminer shows hashing in progress, but pool shows zero.. and when i clicked afterburner icon, computer frozed and was nothing possible to do than just restart.. someone have some idea?? or same problem?

Adjust your clocks and/or voltage. This happens to me when I set the voltage too high.

im just adjusting clocks, but not woltage.. some recomendation for this setup, about woltage?
i have core clock 1045 and mem clock 1400..

I run 1000/1200 on all my cards, getting ~620kH/s from each one on an average. Voltage set to between 1000mV and 1100mV.
Uninstall afterburner and use Sapphire Trixx instead, even if you don't have Sapphire cards. It works better for some people, might be worth a try.
Just remember to check the "Force constant voltage"-box in the settings, makes them run more stable.
member
Activity: 89
Merit: 10
i have a problem with afterburner.. i build this same exact rig as described. but every day about 2-3 times a day my computer frozes and i cant do nothing than restart. still not sure why is this happening, but today i saw that everything is working well . guiminer shows hashing in progress, but pool shows zero.. and when i clicked afterburner icon, computer frozed and was nothing possible to do than just restart.. someone have some idea?? or same problem?

Adjust your clocks and/or voltage. This happens to me when I set the voltage too high.

im just adjusting clocks, but not woltage.. some recomendation for this setup, about woltage?
i have core clock 1045 and mem clock 1400..
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