Losing $350,000 because of a friend, what would you do? - page 8.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on November 15, 2022, 11:20:28 AM

Quote from: Johnyz on November 10, 2022, 05:49:06 PM

Is it allowed for anyone to touch your bet without you giving him the consent?
Assuming you give him the consent and you agree with his idea, then probably you can’t blame him on that and losing the opportunity to win big should not be the reason of losing that friend, you still have to assess the situation. This might be a heart broken situation, but that’s how gambling works we can’t take every opportunity to win because we tend to change our emotion from time to time.

- Maybe for him, he knows that he will win and his friends don't believe him. And because of the concern of his friends, were worried about the large amount that could be lost, because of what he was going to bet, his partner thought that he should stop his big bet and hinted at a friend who changed it and made it just a small amount.

So I think God allowed that to happen to show that that big gambling win was not really for him. And maybe God is also teaching him something, that's why for me it's a sign to make me laugh at that show a lot, hehehehe

This is one of the major problem with most people when we talk about gambling. We need to be optimistic in whatsoever we are doing based of the kind of game we are betting on . Lack of trust in what we do make us lose more because we don't believe in what we do or choose. I have won a big amount of money in sport bet due to my confidence in the kind of game I choose that made many persons to castigate me of taking a bigger risk. I almost change the game but one thing assured me to leave it like that because I always prepared to either lose or win. At the end of the the match won which made many gamblers to be asking questions about my confidence.

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Almost impossible in a normal casino because in this scene a number of factors came into play. All the little things that never go as planned went like that. For instance, the casino employees not saying anything about the funds being moved when the one that placed the bet did not watch. Usually when you bet they confirm it by saying something like all bets are closed now and you know if you're participating. From that point you cannot move the chips and if they see you messing around they'll tell say it loud.
What I'd do? Probably tell my friends that they owe me now and moved on. They messed with my win they have to pay me back somehow. I wouldn't want the money but they'd be paying for alcohol that night, or would have to drive me home, something like that. I wouldn't let it slide, that's for sure Cheesy

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In real life, this kind of thing might never happen, because when betting and playing gambling I never invite my friends because it will mess with my mind, but if it really happened I would definitely be angry with him, but not scold him loudly. and hurt his heart, I think just slap him like I usually do if my friend is unconscious when he's drunk from drinking too much let alone $350k not a small amount of money

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Quote from: Johnyz on November 10, 2022, 05:49:06 PM

Is it allowed for anyone to touch your bet without you giving him the consent?
Assuming you give him the consent and you agree with his idea, then probably you can’t blame him on that and losing the opportunity to win big should not be the reason of losing that friend, you still have to assess the situation. This might be a heart broken situation, but that’s how gambling works we can’t take every opportunity to win because we tend to change our emotion from time to time.

- Maybe for him, he knows that he will win and his friends don't believe him. And because of the concern of his friends, were worried about the large amount that could be lost, because of what he was going to bet, his partner thought that he should stop his big bet and hinted at a friend who changed it and made it just a small amount.

So I think God allowed that to happen to show that that big gambling win was not really for him. And maybe God is also teaching him something, that's why for me it's a sign to make me laugh at that show a lot, hehehehe

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Quote from: Boristhecat on November 13, 2022, 01:23:30 PM

If you do not consider this situation as a simple joke, then I would demand the full winnings from the casino. "Friend" is not a legal concept and he has no right to cancel the bets that you have made, the fact that he took the chips from the table is the problems of the casino/croupier. In fact, the bet was made and after that the responsibility for its safety lies entirely with the casino, which means that the player must receive the full winnings.

It would be still situational or something that could be argued but you do actually had the point on which it would really be that final or considered to be fixed bet and when someone do really make out some changes and not the bettor itself then they dont really have the rights on doing so.Although this situation is really that something impossible to happen but still a certain friend could really punch up his friend if it turns out
that he had missed out on winning that $300k amount because of that intent on saving him up.This is why its always been that ideal on not to take involvement on someones decisions even if he's your friend.
No matter on how close you are, when it comes to money then everything could really changed up.In overall, this is really an impossible scenario and even myself cant really think off
that it could really be happening.

I don't think there's room for dispute from a legal point of view (formalities) as we have a video (hahaha) of the player making a bet and insisting on it. Outsiders (even if they are his friends) can't cancel it.
Financial actions, including advice, do lead to serious consequences, so it is wise to avoid getting involved in the financial affairs of your friends. The one who fully assumes the consequences of financial decisions should manage the money. Any problems and unsuccessful outcomes can lead to unnecessary quarrels and resentments.

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It seems a ridiculous risk to me to bet 10 or 15k on a number? Well there are a lot of strategies in roulettes, and you can bet all kinds of amounts but just to bet 10k - 15k on a number? I don't see that happening soon? And let's not forget that afterwards it is always easy to apply analyzes and conclusions to a situation. The point is that the bet has not been placed, and that seems binding to me. You don't know how it all went, it could also just be a big joke or media attention circus.

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Quote from: cabron on November 07, 2022, 11:32:16 AM

He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.

If you do not consider this situation as a simple joke, then I would demand the full winnings from the casino. "Friend" is not a legal concept and he has no right to cancel the bets that you have made, the fact that he took the chips from the table is the problems of the casino/croupier. In fact, the bet was made and after that the responsibility for its safety lies entirely with the casino, which means that the player must receive the full winnings.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on November 11, 2022, 11:01:12 AM

I wouldn't advise for a brawl to breakout, but lessons learned from mistakes as this is one to either expose your friend in true light and for you to know what you can endure.
I would advice myself next time and follow my heart.

If anyone has a brawl with a friend because he lost a bet, it shows how immature he is. Friendship should not be traded for money no matter what happens. What if he had won the bet would he be quarrelling with his friend? No. The bettor should take responsibility for his loss and not put the blame on someone else. Adults take responsibility when things go bad and not trade blames.

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One of the reasons why we are adults is for the fact of being responsible enough to make decisions irrespective of friends or family. One wouldn't really put much blame on the friend who influenced your decision because you have a brain and know better. I know the money might be small for you because of the way you put it, but I can only say, what are friends for, if not for inconveniences.
I wouldn't advise for a brawl to breakout, but lessons learned from mistakes as this is one to either expose your friend in true light and for you to know what you can endure.
I would advice myself next time and follow my heart.

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Quote from: cabron on November 07, 2022, 11:32:16 AM

He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.

This could happen in real life but if this happen to me I will be in total rage I will be like Kevin Hart uncontrollable and ready to kill Cheesy

but this is no big joke that $350k is enough to retire me and live like a king here in our country, of course this is a movie but in real casino once you made a bet you are the one who can move the bet, there should be no interference from other party, I'd like to watch the movie and see how it ends.

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If this would happen in real and reputed casino, the security guards would move that friend away from the casino, as he has touched other persons chips/money. Once bet is done, only the dealer is allowed to touch money. I even think that this round would be stopped and the dealer will restart the roulette. But, I see no big reason for Kevin Hart to be angry, in the end, he still won and have a positive balance.

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Quote from: Russlenat on November 10, 2022, 05:59:32 PM

Quote from: Jemzx00 on November 07, 2022, 11:41:50 AM

This kind of scene is unlikely to happen like someone going all in on just one number. Also, if this happened in real life, I think he (Kevin Hart) will still win the $350,000 as he is not the one who moved those chips or bet and why would the betting be closed after the spin, wouldn't it have been closed when the wheel is already spinning?

Yes, the bet is definitely closed when the wheel starts to spin so there are no moving out of chips, otherwise your bet will be forfeited. But if you are stupid enough in real life, you will do what is impossible and what is against the rules. And you will be moved out in the casino eventually. But since this is very unlikely to turn into reality, no one will certainly do things like this unless if you are not aware of the game and don’t know how to play it either.

The bet must have been closed and his friend had replaced the chips so when the result came out, he couldn't get a big win. But he was also lucky because he could win some money and we do not know if that happened in real life, we would break the rules or if it is still allowed. But since it's a video, it looks like it's allowed. Hopefully, it doesn't happen in real life because it can become a fight between friends because they have changed chips without the friend who placed the bet knowing.

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Quote from: Russlenat on November 10, 2022, 05:59:32 PM

But since this is very unlikely to turn into reality, no one will certainly do things like this unless if you are not aware of the game and don’t know how to play it either.

Moreover, this has never happened in reality, otherwise it would have appeared in the gambling news and newspapers, like other news we have seen lately.

If it had happened, it is understandable that the protagonist would feel like killing his friend, and that he did it for his own good, but I don't think it's worth getting too excited about a plot of a film.

Quote from: Viscore on November 10, 2022, 05:52:46 PM

There are always rules in certain casinos and if you are going against the rules, not only you will be kicked out but probably banned in that casino. But this scenario is impossible to happen in real life since we know once you put that chip, other people are not allowed to moved it. So this is very unlikely to happen in gambling casinos, players are more professional than we expected them to be.

So what you say it's better for my argument: not only is it extremely unlikely that such a thing would happen in reality, but it would be impossible according to the rules, so let's not give it any more thought.

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Quote from: cabron on November 07, 2022, 11:32:16 AM

He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.

I will probably do the same thing that he did when he got angry with his friend because he didn't follow what I told him to bet the 10K$, although he had good intentions for me. After all, even if I lost at least I still have a lot of money to spare. That's why it hit, of course, if I was the friend who changed his bet amount, I would feel guilty that instead of being rich, he became a stone because of me.

But anyway, everything has a reason, whether it's good or bad, whether it's in our favor or not, all of that God allowed to happen to us for a good reason, in the end, it's just that simple for me, although It's really hard to accept at first.

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Quote from: cabron on November 07, 2022, 11:32:16 AM

He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

How safe was the latter bet? Did he win? How much did it amount to? Those are things that'll make me calm down my temper, otherwise I'll just act weird like the way Kevin did ....lol . Gaming in roulette ain't no easy-peasy so if I'd have that chance to win, then I shouldn't be denied of that... that's just a formulated series cus in real life, when the game is stacked, the funds are retracted right?? ....I won't even go with someone like that.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.

This made me laugh my godammmm ass out.!!! Kevin's made a great fun in that content and that's just something that wouldn't hesitate to happen in real life.

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Quote from: Jemzx00 on November 07, 2022, 11:41:50 AM

This kind of scene is unlikely to happen like someone going all in on just one number. Also, if this happened in real life, I think he (Kevin Hart) will still win the $350,000 as he is not the one who moved those chips or bet and why would the betting be closed after the spin, wouldn't it have been closed when the wheel is already spinning?

Yes, the bet is definitely closed when the wheel starts to spin so there are no moving out of chips, otherwise your bet will be forfeited. But if you are stupid enough in real life, you will do what is impossible and what is against the rules. And you will be moved out in the casino eventually. But since this is very unlikely to turn into reality, no one will certainly do things like this unless if you are not aware of the game and don’t know how to play it either.

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It happens somewhere in real life and if that happens to me, I'll have that heavy heart to my friend. But I'll only have that feeling if it's my money that he has moved and chose to bet the others.

Well, if it's not my money and he has moved it then I'll just let it go since it's not mined. But things will change if it's my money that's being moved and that's what I'm gonna have with that replaced bet.

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Quote from: Jemzx00 on November 07, 2022, 12:30:46 PM

Quote from: Oshosondy on November 07, 2022, 11:45:42 AM

It is gambling, it can happen real life, but the chance that it would happen is very slim. But we should always advice that betting big comes with big risks.

Highly unlikely that this can happen in real life, no one are allowed to move their bets when it has already been placed whether it's the bettor or his friend. The bet can happen if that how rich you are and you just casually bet $10,000 on a single number however in this case, he is not. Also, no one can bet anymore once the wheel is already spinning not when it's about to stop.

If this scenario happens on real life, his friend will be kicked out from the casino or probably the whole bet he made will be forfeited.

Quote from: NeuroticFish on November 07, 2022, 12:06:24 PM

2. This cannot happen because afaik nobody is allowed to touch your chips, even if that one is with you/your friend. An I wrong?

You're absolutely correct.

There are always rules in certain casinos and if you are going against the rules, not only you will be kicked out but probably banned in that casino. But this scenario is impossible to happen in real life since we know once you put that chip, other people are not allowed to moved it. So this is very unlikely to happen in gambling casinos, players are more professional than we expected them to be.

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Is it allowed for anyone to touch your bet without you giving him the consent?
Assuming you give him the consent and you agree with his idea, then probably you can’t blame him on that and losing the opportunity to win big should not be the reason of losing that friend, you still have to assess the situation. This might be a heart broken situation, but that’s how gambling works we can’t take every opportunity to win because we tend to change our emotion from time to time.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on November 07, 2022, 12:06:24 PM

Quote from: cabron on November 07, 2022, 11:32:16 AM

I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

1. This is not losing 350k, it's.. not winning 350k.
2. This cannot happen because afaik nobody is allowed to touch your chips, even if that one is with you/your friend. An I wrong?

Let's not confuse movies with reality.

Yes. No one is allowed to do that unless you let him do it. Otherwise, you are not losing unintentionally, since you are really bound to lose because of wrong bet. However, not all we see in movies that show about gambling is close to reality. Some are just wild imaginations that are hard to happen in reality. If you’re not a gambler, you will really believe on it, but if you are a pro in gambling, you will know it’s impossible to happen.

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