Losing $350,000 because of a friend, what would you do? - page 9.

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Quote from: Maestro75 on November 10, 2022, 06:42:27 AM

Quote from: gantez on November 07, 2022, 12:19:24 PM

If it didn't happen that he won this can go as far as causing some problem for the both pals when the bettor will think the friend should think he would be crazy betting with that huge amount and couldn't change the bet. He may say he was high while doing the betting that he should know. What I'm saying is just that he is angry because it happen to be a win but losing he could have realized what help got from the friend.

Eventhough Op said this was just an drama, it can still happen in real life. If that type of thing has not happened before but was only acted, nothing says it can not still happen in future. And you are correct about what you said when it comes to our reactions to winning and losing money in betting. If we stay out or bet small and the bet loses, we are happy. But if we did not play a bet and it wins, we feel sad. This is to show you that man always loves winning but forgetting that when you win, someone loses.

No one would really care if someone losses on the other side as long they do really able to win the that what matter most.They dont really care as long they do won but on the time you would really be the one who losses

then it would really be basically be showing that kind of common reaction.In the situation where op had been saying about being altered on the way or on the time you do make bets and suddenly it won
and you have seen that it could give out that huge winning amount the pretty sure you would really get angry.

Relationships could really be make out to be affected whenever we do talk about huge sums of money.People could really change with that.

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Quote from: acroman08 on November 09, 2022, 12:01:01 PM

Quote from: cabron on November 07, 2022, 10:32:16 AM

He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

what I would do would depend on how it happened. I mean, if I agreed with my friend to place it on a "safer bet" then I'd blame myself but I'd also blame him and be pissed at him, but If my friend suddenly moved my bet to a much "safer bet" at the last second, then I'd extremely pissed at him.

Why would you blame your friend when you also agree on it at the first place? And what if he will put the blame back at you? He have the right to do it. The second thing that you said will also depend. We don't know what if your friend is only concern at you and he doesn't want you to lose big?

But, a friend can also lie and will make that as an alibi while his true intention is to mess with you. He doesn't want you to win big. I don't know if there is a way to prove this but maybe a lie detector test will do? But before we end up there, we need to see our results first. All this will only happen if we win but if we lose then we will not take it seriously.

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Quote from: gantez on November 07, 2022, 12:19:24 PM

If it didn't happen that he won this can go as far as causing some problem for the both pals when the bettor will think the friend should think he would be crazy betting with that huge amount and couldn't change the bet. He may say he was high while doing the betting that he should know. What I'm saying is just that he is angry because it happen to be a win but losing he could have realized what help got from the friend.

Eventhough Op said this was just an drama, it can still happen in real life. If that type of thing has not happened before but was only acted, nothing says it can not still happen in future. And you are correct about what you said when it comes to our reactions to winning and losing money in betting. If we stay out or bet small and the bet loses, we are happy. But if we did not play a bet and it wins, we feel sad. This is to show you that man always loves winning but forgetting that when you win, someone loses.

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Quote from: cabron on November 07, 2022, 10:32:16 AM

He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

what I would do would depend on how it happened. I mean, if I agreed with my friend to place it on a "safer bet" then I'd blame myself but I'd also blame him and be pissed at him, but If my friend suddenly moved my bet to a much "safer bet" at the last second, then I'd extremely pissed at him.

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Quote from: Reid on November 09, 2022, 06:42:09 AM

We have that one friend who decides for you and regrets it for the rest of his life. Grin

That's a funny clip though.
What would I do if a friend of mine did it to me? That's actually a difficult question unless you are in the exact situation as what is shared.
I will get mad, that's first, for sure. Maybe next to it is the question of, why? (with an angry tone)
But I doubt there's a good answer for that, he will be silent for most of the hysterical shit that you will say.

Yes, there could never be a good answer to this but getting mad is reasonable. I will be hysterical at the chance to have $350,000 but slips away. I will drink a whole bottle of brandy just to forget the day.

I was expecting some mad answers in the thread actually but maybe it can only happen when it literally happens to you in a gambling den. You may really have a big fight.

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Quote from: Reid on November 09, 2022, 06:42:09 AM

We have that one friend who decides for you and regrets it for the rest of his life. Grin

That's a funny clip though.
What would I do if a friend of mine did it to me? That's actually a difficult question unless you are in the exact situation as what is shared.
I will get mad, that's first, for sure. Maybe next to it is the question of, why? (with an angry tone)
But I doubt there's a good answer for that, he will be silent for most of the hysterical shit that you will say.

I laughed while watching the clip but still took a lesson from it. We will always have friends who want to protect us from too much gambling. They're the ones who knows us very well that they tend to take control when they could feel that we aren't doing right. It's just so happen that on the video, the lucky guy's day was ruined because of his friend's control. If I were that bettor, I will surely get mad and will be filled with regrets for a long time but I will still forgive my friend but I won't go along with him to a casino.

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Quote from: gantez on November 09, 2022, 05:58:31 AM

Quote from: arwin100 on November 09, 2022, 05:19:00 AM

This is why we shouldn't bet while our friends watching us because they could disturb us and ruin our play since somehow they will give their own opinion which is doesn't meet to our game plan towards the games we are playing. Don't want to get dictated since my money my rules so if this case happen and I wasted a lot of money because of his bad interference well I will just dump him and find another friend which doesn't bother me when I am in focus doing something.

No not that because this just happened or is video because sometimes the imput of a friend can be helpful to the game that we want to play. Having our friends stay around can be good too when we doing wrong decision to selecting the type of game, odd or betting options to play. This incident that occurred isn't only to the negative but can be to the positive also.

Having friends who accompany us to play is not a problem because we can ask them for advice and although the final decision is still ours, we can use their advice as our consideration.
And as good friends, they will always remind us to be careful in placing bets in every spin because they don't want to see us suffer a big loss.
And they will also definitely ask us to stop if we have lost or gained a lot of money from gambling.
A good friend doesn't want to see his friend lose a lot of money in gambling and because of that, they will pay attention to us.

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We have that one friend who decides for you and regrets it for the rest of his life. Grin

That's a funny clip though.
What would I do if a friend of mine did it to me? That's actually a difficult question unless you are in the exact situation as what is shared.
I will get mad, that's first, for sure. Maybe next to it is the question of, why? (with an angry tone)
But I doubt there's a good answer for that, he will be silent for most of the hysterical shit that you will say.

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Hilarious scene right there and something that will not happen in real life unless in the movies Tongue

! But this being a game of chance I think the friend made the right call..imagine if Kevin's 15 Black didn't land Huh

That would have been a - 15k on his bank account and he would have blamed his buddies for not stopping him from that bad decision but what I missed from this scene is did the safer bet land or lost?

Quote from: Wakate on November 08, 2022, 06:40:16 PM

I don't really know the possiblity of this happening but if it could happens then it will be rare. Gambling can be very different from the way we look at it on a daily basis.

Totally agree with you! But what's not unusual is that most of us do pick numbers based on past events or special dates but winning based on this its a probable chance tbh.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on November 08, 2022, 10:10:34 PM

Quote from: cabron on November 07, 2022, 10:32:16 AM

He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.

This is called betrayal if you are betting with your own money your friends do not have the right to replace your bet, I can only advise my friend to not proceed but physically manipulating the bet is something I will not do, because it might backfire, he is the one who put the bet so he should be the one to replace it, I don't know if the video you show me happens in real life there's the possibility that it has but not documented, If this happen to me I will unfriend the guy he does not deserve to be in my circle of friends.

Betrayal ? Kevin Hart should have set limits then on what his friends can do or can not do. I think that this friend, that took money from the bet is more loyal than others. As he showed that he cared about his friend, showed that he cared about his friends future. While others stood there like "ok let him make a bet, if he lose, it is ok, if he wins, it is ok". In fact, this is just money, they can be earned. Not everything should be measured with money. What if he did not win? Other friends will be same bunch of people around, but that friend who took the bet will be his saver.

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Quote from: arwin100 on November 09, 2022, 05:19:00 AM

This is why we shouldn't bet while our friends watching us because they could disturb us and ruin our play since somehow they will give their own opinion which is doesn't meet to our game plan towards the games we are playing. Don't want to get dictated since my money my rules so if this case happen and I wasted a lot of money because of his bad interference well I will just dump him and find another friend which doesn't bother me when I am in focus doing something.

No not that because this just happened or is video because sometimes the imput of a friend can be helpful to the game that we want to play. Having our friends stay around can be good too when we doing wrong decision to selecting the type of game, odd or betting options to play. This incident that occurred isn't only to the negative but can be to the positive also.

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That's hilarious. Kevin Hart, authentic comedian.
I might react the same as Kevin Hart did. Maybe worst. I felt it, I will bet for it, so all my friend should do is believe in my forecast.

It made me miss the feeling of being in a physical casino although not that type of casino, just poker tables with many players chatting on the sides and waiting to get a chair.
That's the best part of it, making friends who understand you and your hobbies.

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Quote from: arwin100 on November 09, 2022, 05:19:00 AM

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Quote from: cabron on November 07, 2022, 10:32:16 AM

He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

If it is happening to me, I wont let anyone take my bet and move it to other bet. Simple, it is my own money not his/her and he has no right to move my bet unless he is responsible for what he is doing. Responsible here means that the he is ready to pay me if my bet is a winning bet but he moved it that make it a lose bet or win less than what I should win.

This is why we shouldn't bet while our friends watching us because they could disturb us and ruin our play since somehow they will give their own opinion which is doesn't meet to our game plan towards the games we are playing. Don't want to get dictated since my money my rules so if this case happen and I wasted a lot of money because of his bad interference well I will just dump him and find another friend which doesn't bother me when I am in focus doing something.

I disagree though, I'm not seeing this happening in real life, I usually play with my friends in roulette and this doesn't happen because we know that we can't touch each other bet unless we really tell him to do that.

In this case this is for the movie itself and it just so happen that this became a discussion here but many of us know that again, this is not going to happen, maybe there are few cases in real life, but I guess friendship will still take over here.

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Quote from: Bitinity on November 09, 2022, 04:48:33 AM

Quote from: cabron on November 07, 2022, 10:32:16 AM

He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

If it is happening to me, I wont let anyone take my bet and move it to other bet. Simple, it is my own money not his/her and he has no right to move my bet unless he is responsible for what he is doing. Responsible here means that the he is ready to pay me if my bet is a winning bet but he moved it that make it a lose bet or win less than what I should win.

This is why we shouldn't bet while our friends watching us because they could disturb us and ruin our play since somehow they will give their own opinion which is doesn't meet to our game plan towards the games we are playing. Don't want to get dictated since my money my rules so if this case happen and I wasted a lot of money because of his bad interference well I will just dump him and find another friend which doesn't bother me when I am in focus doing something.

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Quote from: cabron on November 07, 2022, 10:32:16 AM

He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

If it is happening to me, I wont let anyone take my bet and move it to other bet. Simple, it is my own money not his/her and he has no right to move my bet unless he is responsible for what he is doing. Responsible here means that the he is ready to pay me if my bet is a winning bet but he moved it that make it a lose bet or win less than what I should win.

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Quote from: _act_ on November 08, 2022, 03:56:15 AM

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We never know if we have a chance to make 350k dollars and that's what we try but apparently, our friends always warn us not to bet more than we can. They are good friends who always remind us not to gamble with a lot of money. And even if we didn't win a lot of money, at least we did and I think that's enough for us to be able to hold back the anger to punch him in the face because it could later result in a fight between us and the end, we will lose good friends.

One of the rules of having fun while gambling is to use low amount of money, $10000 is too much, using just very tiny amount of money is the best. I too do not see anything done wrong at all. In reality, he will likely lose that money, if the money is lost, it will result to regret. I see a friend like that to be a good friend, I can never fight with him. But if I actually nwọn that money, it will really be a pain in the ass for me.

I also think so because that much money is used as an unwise bet. After all, we are taking such a big risk too. There is no guarantee we can win a very large amount of money. That's why if we get a warning from our friends about not betting too much, we might as well comply. After all, it's also for our own good and we don't need to lose a lot of money even though there will be potential for luck to come our way.

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Quote from: cabron on November 07, 2022, 10:32:16 AM

He particularly chose Black 15 for $10K on roulette which he could have won $350,000 but a friend took the $10K and replace a safer bet. I know this is likely not to happen in real life. But let's say it did. What would you do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT4GcK6Dpkk
I was trying to look for Kevin Hart movies on Netflix so I found one. Turns out one scene is an unsatisfying win.

This is called betrayal if you are betting with your own money your friends do not have the right to replace your bet, I can only advise my friend to not proceed but physically manipulating the bet is something I will not do, because it might backfire, he is the one who put the bet so he should be the one to replace it, I don't know if the video you show me happens in real life there's the possibility that it has but not documented, If this happen to me I will unfriend the guy he does not deserve to be in my circle of friends.

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Quote from: harizen on November 08, 2022, 04:53:24 PM

Quote from: jostorres on November 08, 2022, 03:30:21 PM

Ah, so it's only fictional? I really thought that it was real but I think the same scenario can happen for real especially if you are a kind of friend which is scared. There's always one friend who are like that where they will discourage their other friends to do risky things.

Those people defy the rules of roulette because that's for comedy purposes.

In most cases, the chosen numbers are locked once the spin is now in motion. Even if there's a forced attempt to move those chips, either just honors the first pick or the bet of that specific gambler on that round will be totally voided.

Agree the scene was just fiction, they break tons of rules on that scene, in real life that would be impossible to see because if a user place a bet other user can't remove the chips, even if he is a friend. Just can't happen.

But let's suppose it's possible and it happen to me, i would blame the casino fro letting other user take my chips and fight for the full payment of my original bet. And about the friend i would call can uber and send him to his home.

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For the sake of answering OP, I'd probably be malding really. I mean he had good intentions, yes, but the result was a win in the end, so really it was his fault. The answer can be pretty skewed imo since it's a "win", if it was a "loss" then we'd probably be thanking the friend instead.

In reality, though I don't think you're allowed to change bets when the roulette has basically started as others have said, so the scenario isn't really going to happen. Even if someone did change the bet, pretty sure the dealer will still honor the original one since, well, another person changed it midway which is not allowed in the first place.

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Although he could blame his friend for taking the $10,000 for another bet, the decision was still really his. It was his money and his friend cannot insist on another bet if he made it clear that it was his money and therefore it was also his decision to make where the money is bet.

This is very unfortunate if this happens in real life. I guess wouldn't be talking to my friend for days or weeks or even months. This is also the reason why I would rather not suggest too much in gambling. I might take the blame in the end.

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