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Topic: AMD Rebrand - RX570 / RX580 - Official Thread - page 16. (Read 173462 times)

newbie
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Hey guys, after sleepless night I really need your help.
Setting up 2nd rig: 6 cards mixed brands. One was even "like new" condition and I found out somebody played with bios already, It is GB Aorus XTR 8GB and its LED is not working and bios timings were changed.
Can anyone post his original BIOS for this card? If it helps I will be really thankful.

Also second problem - was flashing BIOS and PC crashed or freezed and card which was in progress seems to be dead...PC just never turn on with that one. It is GB Gaming G1 8GB. Any idea what to do?

Thanks!
Do you use patcher before flashing any card?
legendary
Activity: 1281
Merit: 1003
me too i don't understand why they not build a mining gpu, could perform lot better than a gaming gpu

here to all amd gpu's are out of stock
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 505

Bahaha...
Called a few webshops today.

They are completely drowning in gpu orders from miners.

I asked him if they sold much to gamers.
His answer was : "every now and then a person buys 1 card, but most of them order 10-50 gpus"


Even me personally covers the eq. of 100s of gamers...
Those saying mining didnt affect the gpu market are way off....

AMD should made a mining card 1 year ago ... so much market to drain.

Idiots.

One year ago, the mining market was not so good.

It was even better... I remember waiting for the r9 390s quite a while.
The profits were crazy
newbie
Activity: 53
Merit: 0

Bahaha...
Called a few webshops today.

They are completely drowning in gpu orders from miners.

I asked him if they sold much to gamers.
His answer was : "every now and then a person buys 1 card, but most of them order 10-50 gpus"


Even me personally covers the eq. of 100s of gamers...
Those saying mining didnt affect the gpu market are way off....

AMD should made a mining card 1 year ago ... so much market to drain.

Idiots.

One year ago, the mining market was not so good.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 505

Bahaha...
Called a few webshops today.

They are completely drowning in gpu orders from miners.

I asked him if they sold much to gamers.
His answer was : "every now and then a person buys 1 card, but most of them order 10-50 gpus"


Even me personally covers the eq. of 100s of gamers...
Those saying mining didnt affect the gpu market are way off....

AMD should made a mining card 1 year ago ... so much market to drain.

Idiots.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 505

To conclude the pos:
All agrees on hard tanking.
Most agrees on something new evolving.

Its a phase.. not a permantent state.





This EPOCH thing would be nice to figure out and have a def. answer to.

Wolf, will you need a testnet or something to simulate?
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
As I  ordered 570 4gb and dag getting bigger will the 4gb enough for eth mining or newer cards like 570 won't have any problem?

Its going to reach 4GB in around 2 years at current rate but it doesn't really matter. Be it the burst of the current bubble or eth switching to PoS or the difficulty bomb, eth mining will be over way before that anyways.
I think ETH won't be profitable with GPU mining in 2 years.

In 2 years? Foolish, it's gonna be much sooner...

Its most likely going POS this year.
Theres been talk about everything from this summer to november.

Unless they keep the same reward and a pos/pow hybrid, it WILL be the death of gpu mining.

You keep telling yourself that bullshit. :3

Which part?

The unly uncertain one is the POS question.

GPU profits will plummet immensly as most of the hash is caught up in ETH.
Thats just simple math...


Take ETC for example.  1 GH today pays about 200 $
With ETHs hashrate 1 GH will pay around 10$ .. but at avg. you will spend 14-17$ on power.

There simply aint enough value to absorb all that hash and make it profitable.

But this is based on if nothing changes. I do expect a lot of changes once the ETH plan is clear.
I dont think people understand how much 43.57 Th/s ethash is in power.
ETC, UBQ, MC, EXP, ZEN, ZCL, ZEC, HUSH and all those can NOT absorb that power without plummeting in profits. Even combined.


But as i said... i expect new actors or other changes to keep this going.


Dude, you're parroting the same trash people said when Scrypt ASICs were coming, then it was repeated about X11 ASICs, and so on. The death of GPU mining has been predicted so many times that it's almost a comical statement.

Let me tell you what's gonna happen, that way you can prepare yourself. Eth is going to go PoS eventually, or just kick the bucket - for the purposes of this discussion, it doesn't matter which. Mining profitability will tank EXTREMELY hard - and there will be people selling GPUs (often at a loss) for half MSRP or less on fleabay, Craigslist, anywhere they can find someone to take them. I'll be snapping 'em up quick, by the by. There will be a while where people bitch, moan, and whine about making only a few USD a day off of a six-GPU rig, and then, slowly, new shit will emerge. They will slowly bring the profitability back up, not to current level (at first), but enough that the whining slows down. Then, likely, one of those newfangled profit generators (coins) will explode like Eth is now, and we'll be right about... here. Rinse, repeat.

There is another possibility to consider. What if etherum's PoS is a huge success and delivers on being much cheaper and faster for transactions? It might just suck all the money out of other coins and PoS would become the new norm, changing the cryptocurrency scene forever.

Personally I see some flaws with PoS and think its somewhat worse for securing the network than PoW but who knows, I might be wrong.
legendary
Activity: 1510
Merit: 1003
It is an AMD difficulty bomb ... Vega is coming )))))
legendary
Activity: 1510
Merit: 1003
Cause Claymore's benchmark shows significant performance degradation, only 17mhs on 199 epoch

On Polaris cards? I'm curious now, but SGMiner doesn't have an option to use a commanded epoch, dammit.
You already can see it, try some shit-dagger-coin with low epoch and current eth. With claymore it is ~0.2mhs loss. Then on epoch 150 and later it becomes huge.
R9 390 is effected also but not much.
gtx1070 practically not effected.
Maybe it is a miner problem or some driver issue ... that is why I ask.
legendary
Activity: 1510
Merit: 1003
Cause Claymore's benchmark shows significant performance degradation, only 17mhs on 199 epoch
legendary
Activity: 1510
Merit: 1003
2 Wolf0

Can you benchmark some Polaris card 8gb with your private ETH miner with current epoch, epoch 150 and epoch 199?
Will you see performance degradation?
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 505
As I  ordered 570 4gb and dag getting bigger will the 4gb enough for eth mining or newer cards like 570 won't have any problem?

Its going to reach 4GB in around 2 years at current rate but it doesn't really matter. Be it the burst of the current bubble or eth switching to PoS or the difficulty bomb, eth mining will be over way before that anyways.
I think ETH won't be profitable with GPU mining in 2 years.

In 2 years? Foolish, it's gonna be much sooner...

Its most likely going POS this year.
Theres been talk about everything from this summer to november.

Unless they keep the same reward and a pos/pow hybrid, it WILL be the death of gpu mining.

You keep telling yourself that bullshit. :3

Which part?

The unly uncertain one is the POS question.

GPU profits will plummet immensly as most of the hash is caught up in ETH.
Thats just simple math...


Take ETC for example.  1 GH today pays about 200 $
With ETHs hashrate 1 GH will pay around 10$ .. but at avg. you will spend 14-17$ on power.

There simply aint enough value to absorb all that hash and make it profitable.

But this is based on if nothing changes. I do expect a lot of changes once the ETH plan is clear.
I dont think people understand how much 43.57 Th/s ethash is in power.
ETC, UBQ, MC, EXP, ZEN, ZCL, ZEC, HUSH and all those can NOT absorb that power without plummeting in profits. Even combined.


But as i said... i expect new actors or other changes to keep this going.


Dude, you're parroting the same trash people said when Scrypt ASICs were coming, then it was repeated about X11 ASICs, and so on. The death of GPU mining has been predicted so many times that it's almost a comical statement.

What? No?
Yeah... what would happen to asics if BTC went POS?

Edit:
Does ppl still mine x11 with GPUs?  Shocked
I amended my post - have a look.

So basicly my point stands.

If BTC had gone POS... asics would be useless.
x11 asics killed x11 gpu mining.

Point:
Thing will probably evolve or someone new will show up with a lot of cash  Cool

(im a miner.. dont believe for a second that i dont want to keep at this joy)
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 505
As I  ordered 570 4gb and dag getting bigger will the 4gb enough for eth mining or newer cards like 570 won't have any problem?

Its going to reach 4GB in around 2 years at current rate but it doesn't really matter. Be it the burst of the current bubble or eth switching to PoS or the difficulty bomb, eth mining will be over way before that anyways.
I think ETH won't be profitable with GPU mining in 2 years.

In 2 years? Foolish, it's gonna be much sooner...

Its most likely going POS this year.
Theres been talk about everything from this summer to november.

Unless they keep the same reward and a pos/pow hybrid, it WILL be the death of gpu mining.

You keep telling yourself that bullshit. :3

Which part?

The unly uncertain one is the POS question.

GPU profits will plummet immensly as most of the hash is caught up in ETH.
Thats just simple math...


Take ETC for example.  1 GH today pays about 200 $
With ETHs hashrate 1 GH will pay around 10$ .. but at avg. you will spend 14-17$ on power.

There simply aint enough value to absorb all that hash and make it profitable.

But this is based on if nothing changes. I do expect a lot of changes once the ETH plan is clear.
I dont think people understand how much 43.57 Th/s ethash is in power.
ETC, UBQ, MC, EXP, ZEN, ZCL, ZEC, HUSH and all those can NOT absorb that power without plummeting in profits. Even combined.


But as i said... i expect new actors or other changes to keep this going.


Dude, you're parroting the same trash people said when Scrypt ASICs were coming, then it was repeated about X11 ASICs, and so on. The death of GPU mining has been predicted so many times that it's almost a comical statement.

What? No?
Yeah... what would happen to asics if BTC went POS?

Edit:
Does ppl still mine x11 with GPUs?  Shocked
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 505
As I  ordered 570 4gb and dag getting bigger will the 4gb enough for eth mining or newer cards like 570 won't have any problem?

Its going to reach 4GB in around 2 years at current rate but it doesn't really matter. Be it the burst of the current bubble or eth switching to PoS or the difficulty bomb, eth mining will be over way before that anyways.
I think ETH won't be profitable with GPU mining in 2 years.

In 2 years? Foolish, it's gonna be much sooner...

Its most likely going POS this year.
Theres been talk about everything from this summer to november.

Unless they keep the same reward and a pos/pow hybrid, it WILL be the death of gpu mining.

You keep telling yourself that bullshit. :3

Which part?

The unly uncertain one is the POS question.

GPU profits will plummet immensly as most of the hash is caught up in ETH.
Thats just simple math...


Take ETC for example.  1 GH today pays about 200 $
With ETHs hashrate 1 GH will pay around 10$ .. but at avg. you will spend 14-17$ on power.

There simply aint enough value to absorb all that hash and make it profitable.

But this is based on if nothing changes. I do expect a lot of changes once the ETH plan is clear.
I dont think people understand how much 43.57 Th/s ethash is in power.
ETC, UBQ, MC, EXP, ZEN, ZCL, ZEC, HUSH and all those can NOT absorb that power without plummeting in profits. Even combined.


But as i said... i expect new actors or other changes to keep this going.
legendary
Activity: 1510
Merit: 1003
According to Claymore benchmark Polaris card even with 8gb mem is doing only 17mhs dagger-hashimoto with epoch 199 ))
R9 390 is doing 30.5 mhs
gtx1070 - 31.5 mhs

Time to sell your polaris cards while the demand and price are high ))
sr. member
Activity: 661
Merit: 250
Certainly too high default voltage and frequency !
newbie
Activity: 32
Merit: 0
Hi guys I just fired up my new out of the box RX 580 to mine ETH and with the card running stock I'm getting 22 mh/s and it's running at 88c temp with 61% fan. Are the RX 580's known to run this hot?
hero member
Activity: 1274
Merit: 556
What do you mean by X Server?
If I don't use a dummy plug I can't get temp and fan info from the cards and teamviewer rez is limited to 640x480... :-/

An X server... you know, the thing that makes a GUI for you, that fglrx requires before it'll get you temp/fan info and allow changing clocks?

But... you say you're using Teamviewer... to control... a Linux rig... you're gonna need more help than I can provide.


Where did I say I was using Linux? Wink

I did back in 2014. PimP rig. Windows wouldn't allow 6 GPUs back then. And even then I didn't need any dummy plugs with PimP.

These new rigs I run now are on Win10... and they give me headaches every fucking day! Cheesy
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 505
As I  ordered 570 4gb and dag getting bigger will the 4gb enough for eth mining or newer cards like 570 won't have any problem?

Its going to reach 4GB in around 2 years at current rate but it doesn't really matter. Be it the burst of the current bubble or eth switching to PoS or the difficulty bomb, eth mining will be over way before that anyways.
I think ETH won't be profitable with GPU mining in 2 years.

In 2 years? Foolish, it's gonna be much sooner...

Its most likely going POS this year.
Theres been talk about everything from this summer to november.

Unless they keep the same reward and a pos/pow hybrid, it WILL be the death of gpu mining.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 102
As I  ordered 570 4gb and dag getting bigger will the 4gb enough for eth mining or newer cards like 570 won't have any problem?

Its going to reach 4GB in around 2 years at current rate but it doesn't really matter. Be it the burst of the current bubble or eth switching to PoS or the difficulty bomb, eth mining will be over way before that anyways.
I think ETH won't be profitable with GPU mining in 2 years.

In 2 years? Foolish, it's gonna be much sooner...
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