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legendary
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May be your statement is much better and correct but now I am feeling without Virat Kohli Indian team is going to struggle very badly because in current squad no one is able to handle this all right now so its most chances this test series is going to be in Australina favour.

With or without Virat, India is going to struggle in Australia. Last time it was an exception, because the Indian players (especially Pujara) was in such terrific form and Australia was missing two of their best players. But it is not all doom and gloom for the Indians. Their recent form has been terrific and the pace bowlers have been in top form. If their batsmen also live up to the occasion, then we may see a repeat of 2017.
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Well India could be in the same situation like how Australia was when the two teams last played in Australia where Australia were missing Smith and Warner which had a huge impact on the outcome because if them two players were playing then I think the series would of been different. I really do hope that we see two full strength teams for this upcoming test series in Australia as this series could be one of the biggest in the past 10 years.

Back then the Australian batting was quite weak and the Indian pacers did a lot of damage. This time the challenge will be tougher for the Indian bowlers. Also this time, the Australian pacers are in top form, especially Pat Cummins and Mitchell Starc. Without Virat Kohli, it is not going to get any easy for the Indian batsmen. Can we expect another miracle from Cheteshwar Pujara this time?

@bryant.coleman this series is an excellent opportunity for other Indian player’s to step up while Virat’s away, and secure their spot in the team for the long term. Lastly BCCI has another big issue to handle as to who’ll lead the team in Virat’s absence, will it be Ajinkya Rahane or Rohit Sharma, and it’s pertinent to note that the former is the current vice captain of Indian cricket test team.

Source:

https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/sports-news-india-vs-australia-who-will-be-indias-test-match-captain-in-virat-kohlis-absence/363915

I agree with you as this gives other players the chance to step up and take lead and show us all what they can do against a strong Australian team with a very good pace attack. I still think the series will be a close fought series as I think both teams will need to get the feel of test match cricket again.
May be your statement is much better and correct but now I am feeling without Virat Kohli Indian team is going to struggle very badly because in current squad no one is able to handle this all right now so its most chances this test series is going to be in Australina favour.
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Well India could be in the same situation like how Australia was when the two teams last played in Australia where Australia were missing Smith and Warner which had a huge impact on the outcome because if them two players were playing then I think the series would of been different. I really do hope that we see two full strength teams for this upcoming test series in Australia as this series could be one of the biggest in the past 10 years.

Back then the Australian batting was quite weak and the Indian pacers did a lot of damage. This time the challenge will be tougher for the Indian bowlers. Also this time, the Australian pacers are in top form, especially Pat Cummins and Mitchell Starc. Without Virat Kohli, it is not going to get any easy for the Indian batsmen. Can we expect another miracle from Cheteshwar Pujara this time?

@bryant.coleman this series is an excellent opportunity for other Indian player’s to step up while Virat’s away, and secure their spot in the team for the long term. Lastly BCCI has another big issue to handle as to who’ll lead the team in Virat’s absence, will it be Ajinkya Rahane or Rohit Sharma, and it’s pertinent to note that the former is the current vice captain of Indian cricket test team.

Source:

https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/sports-news-india-vs-australia-who-will-be-indias-test-match-captain-in-virat-kohlis-absence/363915

I agree with you as this gives other players the chance to step up and take lead and show us all what they can do against a strong Australian team with a very good pace attack. I still think the series will be a close fought series as I think both teams will need to get the feel of test match cricket again.
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Pakistan Cricket Board is still doing some experiments and trying to upset good career of Babar Azam after appointing him as Test Captain replacing Azhar Ali its really frustrating and poor management from them as they can give this spot to Sarfraz as Babar could be his deputy and have some good lessons for this format but personal likes and dislikes and poor politics is around here which is killing careers of good players and nothing good happening to Pakistan Cricket.
There is nothing wrong in giving Babar Azam the captaincy and you never know how players will perform with added responsibility and the prime example was Misbah Ul Haq the present coach, he was not the best player and i was surprised when he was given the captaincy but he elevated his game and became one of the best players in the shorter format as well.

If you look in the past players like Clive Lloyd and Viv Richards performed well even while leading the team and so does Hansie Cronje, Steve Waugh, Ricky Ponting and MS Dhoni became a finisher from a stroke maker after becoming the captain of the side and Virat Kohli also elevated his game after becoming the captain and Babar Azam has the talent and only with experimentation you will understand whether the added responsibility will make or break him.
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Pakistan Cricket Board is still doing some experiments and trying to upset good career of Babar Azam after appointing him as Test Captain replacing Azhar Ali its really frustrating and poor management from them as they can give this spot to Sarfraz as Babar could be his deputy and have some good lessons for this format but personal likes and dislikes and poor politics is around here which is killing careers of good players and nothing good happening to Pakistan Cricket.
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Well.. the problem in India is that they have an oversupply of talent. For each slot in the playing XI, you have 6-7 different players competing for it. And the competition is the most fierce, for the position of wicket keeper batsmen. Rishabh Pant is being preferred by Kohli. But other players such as Sanju Samson and Ishan Kishan are also in the probable list. And then we have players such as Dinesh Karthik and Wriddhiman Saha, who want to make comeback to the national team.
It is a good problem Indian team is facing, having a competition to secure a spot is not easy and i think the IPL has given all the players the exposure to play alongside the best players and that would help them elevate their career. There was a time when Australia and South Africa had this problem of more talents that are competing to get a place in the team and now India is dominating because of this competition.

Selection related controversy was always present with the Indian national team. MSK Prasad was known to have a bias in favor of players from his state, such as Hanuma Vihari. But that is how the system in India works. Everyone will be having a certain amount of bias, either towards his state side, or towards his IPL franchise (or both).
There might be bias in selection but if the player is not able to perform then he will not be back in the team, Rohit Sharma was not performing for a long time but the selectors trusted his skills and he proved that after giving a lot of opportunities.
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Why is Ajinkya Rahane even in contention for the spot of captain? I would go with Rohit Sharma, as he has captained the side in a better way whenever Virat is not available. Anyway, Rohit is being considered as the no.2 in the Indian squad, and therefore naturally he should be considered for captaincy whenever Virat is not available. Personally I don't have any issues with Ajinkya, but I feel Rohit is far more acceptable to the other team members.
- Rohit never made into Test squad regularly. He's No 2 in the limited over cricket but not in the red ball cricket.
- Ajinkya is Virat's deputy in Test format for quite some time.
- Every time Virat miss any Test game, Ajinkya leads the national team.
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Why is Ajinkya Rahane even in contention for the spot of captain? I would go with Rohit Sharma, as he has captained the side in a better way whenever Virat is not available. Anyway, Rohit is being considered as the no.2 in the Indian squad, and therefore naturally he should be considered for captaincy whenever Virat is not available. Personally I don't have any issues with Ajinkya, but I feel Rohit is far more acceptable to the other team members.
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Well India could be in the same situation like how Australia was when the two teams last played in Australia where Australia were missing Smith and Warner which had a huge impact on the outcome because if them two players were playing then I think the series would of been different. I really do hope that we see two full strength teams for this upcoming test series in Australia as this series could be one of the biggest in the past 10 years.

Back then the Australian batting was quite weak and the Indian pacers did a lot of damage. This time the challenge will be tougher for the Indian bowlers. Also this time, the Australian pacers are in top form, especially Pat Cummins and Mitchell Starc. Without Virat Kohli, it is not going to get any easy for the Indian batsmen. Can we expect another miracle from Cheteshwar Pujara this time?

@bryant.coleman this series is an excellent opportunity for other Indian player’s to step up while Virat’s away, and secure their spot in the team for the long term. Lastly BCCI has another big issue to handle as to who’ll lead the team in Virat’s absence, will it be Ajinkya Rahane or Rohit Sharma, and it’s pertinent to note that the former is the current vice captain of Indian cricket test team.

Source:

https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/sports-news-india-vs-australia-who-will-be-indias-test-match-captain-in-virat-kohlis-absence/363915
legendary
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Well India could be in the same situation like how Australia was when the two teams last played in Australia where Australia were missing Smith and Warner which had a huge impact on the outcome because if them two players were playing then I think the series would of been different. I really do hope that we see two full strength teams for this upcoming test series in Australia as this series could be one of the biggest in the past 10 years.

Back then the Australian batting was quite weak and the Indian pacers did a lot of damage. This time the challenge will be tougher for the Indian bowlers. Also this time, the Australian pacers are in top form, especially Pat Cummins and Mitchell Starc. Without Virat Kohli, it is not going to get any easy for the Indian batsmen. Can we expect another miracle from Cheteshwar Pujara this time?
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The Indian team now has problems with selection. Without Virat Kohli, it will be very difficult to fight against a big team like Australia. Although the Indian team has many talented and experienced players. On the other hand BCCI finds talented players through IPL. Hopefully we can see more new and talented players in the Indian squad. Overall the series between India vs Australia will be very competitive. Both teams are going to play an international match after a long break. Both will have the expectation of victory.

Whatever the analysts say, the truth is that Virat Kohli is the only consistent batsmen for India in surfaces that support pace and bounce. If he is not available for most of the matches, then it can have a large impact on the outcome. Also, the first-class season in India is delayed due to COVID 19. So most of the players are without match practice, as far as the longer format is concerned.

Well India could be in the same situation like how Australia was when the two teams last played in Australia where Australia were missing Smith and Warner which had a huge impact on the outcome because if them two players were playing then I think the series would of been different. I really do hope that we see two full strength teams for this upcoming test series in Australia as this series could be one of the biggest in the past 10 years.
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It seems to me that heavy workload in the IPL has resulted in a number of injuries. But the players are not going to care much, as playing for the national team nowadays is not as rewarding for playing for their franchises. However, players such as Varun Chakravarthy would be disappointed as he was about to make his debut for India. BTW, Kohli's case is different. He is taking a delayed paternity leave.
If we go by players statements then this is one of the stress free IPL edition due to lack of travel, when it schedule in India teams used to travel on the crazy schedule but that's not the case this year as all stadiums are not far.

The only thing i can think of is covid break was major reason of so many injuries due to lack of match practice.

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The Indian team now has problems with selection. Without Virat Kohli, it will be very difficult to fight against a big team like Australia.
In test match, yeah! Good for Kohli-Anuska duo tho..

In limited over cricket India can afford to loose him but he's there.

BCCI seems confused on Rohit and other players due to injury, they should have wait to finish IPL first to avoid any confusion, or at least disclose the squad one week before the Finals. Anyways here are more changes and update on Indian squad.
Rohit is not in the best of form and he is injured and they should not force him back, Virat is not going to play the entire Test series and it will be an advantage for Australia as the highlight of the series would have been Smith Vs Virat and who is going to score the most runs because in the last series Smith was leading with the runs and i was expecting a great battle.
I am not in favor of Rohit when featuring in Whites, he sucks really bad in the test cricket. I have no shame to admit that he's home track bully when it comes to Red ball cricket but only on middle order and home series. He might give 1-2 50's here n there but he's not a game changer in Test, if i have to pick then will prefer Pant over him everytime. BCCI should do Indian cricket a favor by offering him opening slot if he successed like Sehwag then its good for India, if not then tell him to focus on fitness and White ball cricket only.
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The Indian team now has problems with selection. Without Virat Kohli, it will be very difficult to fight against a big team like Australia. Although the Indian team has many talented and experienced players. On the other hand BCCI finds talented players through IPL. Hopefully we can see more new and talented players in the Indian squad. Overall the series between India vs Australia will be very competitive. Both teams are going to play an international match after a long break. Both will have the expectation of victory.

Whatever the analysts say, the truth is that Virat Kohli is the only consistent batsmen for India in surfaces that support pace and bounce. If he is not available for most of the matches, then it can have a large impact on the outcome. Also, the first-class season in India is delayed due to COVID 19. So most of the players are without match practice, as far as the longer format is concerned.
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BCCI seems confused on Rohit and other players due to injury, they should have wait to finish IPL first to avoid any confusion, or at least disclose the squad one week before the Finals. Anyways here are more changes and update on Indian squad.
Rohit is not in the best of form and he is injured and they should not force him back, Virat is not going to play the entire Test series and it will be an advantage for Australia as the highlight of the series would have been Smith Vs Virat and who is going to score the most runs because in the last series Smith was leading with the runs and i was expecting a great battle.
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It seems to me that heavy workload in the IPL has resulted in a number of injuries. But the players are not going to care much, as playing for the national team nowadays is not as rewarding for playing for their franchises. However, players such as Varun Chakravarthy would be disappointed as he was about to make his debut for India. BTW, Kohli's case is different. He is taking a delayed paternity leave.
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BCCI announced their complete squad for upcoming Australia tour. Rohit Sharma and Ishant Sharma names are missing due to injuries.

In T-20 Mayank Agarwal, Sanju Samson, Varun Chakarvarthy reaping some rewards due to their IPL form. Rishab Pant and Kuldeep out...
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Team India T20I squad: Virat Kohli (Captain), Shikhar Dhawan, Mayank Agarwal, KL Rahul (vice-captain and wicket-keeper), Shreyas Iyer, Manish Pandey, Hardik Pandya, Sanju Samson (wicket-keeper), Ravindra Jadeja, Washington Sundar, Yuzvendra Chahal, Jasprit Bumrah, Mohd. Shami, Navdeep Saini, Deepak Chahar, Varun Chakravarthy

In ODI, again Rishab Pant out and Kedar Jadav is missing so its safe to say his international career is almost finished. Shubman Gill in..
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Team India ODI squad: Virat Kohli (Captain), Shikhar Dhawan, Shubman Gill, KL Rahul (vice-captain & wicket-keeper), Shreyas Iyer, Manish Pandey, Hardik Pandya, Mayank Agarwal, Ravindra Jadeja, Yuzvendra Chahal, Kuldeep Yadav, Jasprit Bumrah, Mohd. Shami, Navdeep Saini, Shardul Thakur

This is more or less same squad as last tour except inclusion of Siraj and Shubman Gill. KL Rahul back in the test squad, i still remember his last performance in the last tour  Angry Cry Sad
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Team India Test squad: Virat Kohli (Captain), Mayank Agarwal, Prithvi Shaw, KL Rahul, Cheteshwar Pujara, Ajinkya Rahane (vice-captain), Hanuma Vihari, Shubman Gill, Wriddhiman Saha (wicket-keeper), Rishabh Pant (wicket-keeper), Jasprit Bumrah, Mohd. Shami, Umesh Yadav, Navdeep Saini, Kuldeep Yadav, Ravindra Jadeja, R. Ashwin, Mohd. Siraj

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BCCI seems confused on Rohit and other players due to injury, they should have wait to finish IPL first to avoid any confusion, or at least disclose the squad one week before the Finals. Anyways here are more changes and update on Indian squad.


https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/30284064/virat-kohli-play-only-one-test-australia,-rohit-sharma-added-squad
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Is this the same issue with South African cricket as they are providing quota rather than looking for skills but Indian team has a good composition of talents and without talent and performance you cannot hang on to the team for a long time.

Selection related controversy was always present with the Indian national team. MSK Prasad was known to have a bias in favor of players from his state, such as Hanuma Vihari. But that is how the system in India works. Everyone will be having a certain amount of bias, either towards his state side, or towards his IPL franchise (or both).
legendary
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Is this the same issue with South African cricket as they are providing quota rather than looking for skills but Indian team has a good composition of talents and without talent and performance you cannot hang on to the team for a long time.

Well.. the problem in India is that they have an oversupply of talent. For each slot in the playing XI, you have 6-7 different players competing for it. And the competition is the most fierce, for the position of wicket keeper batsmen. Rishabh Pant is being preferred by Kohli. But other players such as Sanju Samson and Ishan Kishan are also in the probable list. And then we have players such as Dinesh Karthik and Wriddhiman Saha, who want to make comeback to the national team.
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Some of them want Virat Kohli to be replaced with Rohit Sharma.
Is it because of religion, region or because of performance as captain. I am not aware of these finer things as majority of the things are strange which is hard to understand.

But will that resolve everything? What if we get the "MI quota" after Rohit becomes the captain? Nepotism and favoritism are hot topics in India right now, and Virat needs to be careful here. His dramatics during the match against MI yesterday did him no good.
Is this the same issue with South African cricket as they are providing quota rather than looking for skills but Indian team has a good composition of talents and without talent and performance you cannot hang on to the team for a long time.
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I have no beef if selectors neglecting Unadkat for limited over cricket, he suck in White ball cricket anyway but selecting test team on basis of IPL is kinda stupid IMO. Unadkat regularly perform well in Ranji and he was highest wicket taker in the last season. Another name is leading run scorer Rahul Dalal from Arunachal. What kind of msz they are sending to domestic players here? Forget about red ball cricket and try white ball cricket then perform only in IPL?

Well.. ideally that should be the case. Test players should be selected based on their Ranji performance. But no one is quite sure about this year's Ranji season. The pandemic situation in India is still quite serious and I am not sure whether the BCCI will get the required permission to stage such a massive tournament with 38 teams and hundreds (if not thousands) of players. So for now, the selection will be based on the IPL performance.

BTW, I disagree with you on Rahul Dalal. Most of his runs came against teams such as Manipur and Mizoram. So I am not going to give much attention to him.  
This is not the first time they selected Test team based on IPL. Last time they selected KL Rahul on same criteria and he failed royally. Somehow BCCI doesn't follow the idea of specialist in any format completely. in odd days they are pro specialist and do selection based on performance if they like any individual, on even days they go bonkers and continue with the limited over cricketers in the test.

Its not Rahul Dalal mistake tho.

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Here i feel that Selection committee see IPL performance is kinda benchmark, which is ridiculous IMO.
You cannot neglect that brilliant spell he bowled against KKR and if given the chance where the pitch would help the fast bowlers he might do wonders, i am not judging his performance in T20 and it will be entirely different in seam pitches and in different formats. Looks like selection was made based on the IPL performance which is ridiculous but there is no other benchmark to select players during this period.
I don't understand this, Siraj performs in IPL and instead of selecting him in T-20 against Australia, he gets the spot in the Test Format. I am not against his selection in Test squad, he's much better bowler in Red ball cricket in comparison of White ball but selection logic is stupid IMO.

Not worry about Warner that much  
Well Warner does play a lot better in Australia so I am expecting him to play well.
I agree that he does perform better in home condition but deep down i have some doubt if he can face Shami or not and if Bumrah gets going then it would be very tough for him.
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