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July 24, 2021, 04:00:41 PM
They got lucky Irving and harden is hurt, with Irving in those match up, bucks might have not made it to the finals, durant alone is not enough, but the experience of Irving is very important if they face Brooklyn again and the team is still intact, I think it will be a different result, it's just unfortunate for the nets, even though giannis won a championship he should be still down to earth.
I guess the Suns also were lucky in the playoffs. I mean, if the Lakers and the Clippers had been fully healthy, the Suns wouldn't have been able to reach the final series. Regarding Giannis, he definitely will be down to earth in the next playoff imho.

That's correct, both the Suns and Bucks are lucky that their opponent has an injured star, in the first round, I'm sure the Suns will not be able to win against the Lakers if Davis was healthy. So even if they have a good record, they might have an early exit, they are just hype because they beat the Lakers and the Clippers that's why going to the NBA Finals they are the favorites, but as what we say, they are not the better team in that series.
I do agree on this but its pointless on making out argumentation because main supporters or fans of these teams would just surely oppose with this sentiment.

Im not really seeing for them to be better compared into those superteams that had  been defeated or beat up.Considering those factors or events do happen then majority of those star players

aren't able to play due to injuries or some  other reason.If they were just healthy on that time then we wont really be seeing different teams in  the finals but well its too late to make out
some comparison.
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July 24, 2021, 03:51:41 PM
They got lucky Irving and harden is hurt, with Irving in those match up, bucks might have not made it to the finals, durant alone is not enough, but the experience of Irving is very important if they face Brooklyn again and the team is still intact, I think it will be a different result, it's just unfortunate for the nets, even though giannis won a championship he should be still down to earth.
I guess the Suns also were lucky in the playoffs. I mean, if the Lakers and the Clippers had been fully healthy, the Suns wouldn't have been able to reach the final series. Regarding Giannis, he definitely will be down to earth in the next playoff imho.

That's correct, both the Suns and Bucks are lucky that their opponent has an injured star, in the first round, I'm sure the Suns will not be able to win against the Lakers if Davis was healthy. So even if they have a good record, they might have an early exit, they are just hype because they beat the Lakers and the Clippers that's why going to the NBA Finals they are the favorites, but as what we say, they are not the better team in that series.
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July 24, 2021, 01:44:10 PM
They got lucky Irving and harden is hurt, with Irving in those match up, bucks might have not made it to the finals, durant alone is not enough, but the experience of Irving is very important if they face Brooklyn again and the team is still intact, I think it will be a different result, it's just unfortunate for the nets, even though giannis won a championship he should be still down to earth.
I guess the Suns also were lucky in the playoffs. I mean, if the Lakers and the Clippers had been fully healthy, the Suns wouldn't have been able to reach the final series. Regarding Giannis, he definitely will be down to earth in the next playoff imho.
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July 24, 2021, 01:13:02 PM
I think Giannis has to respect Lebron and Durant, they join a team because they want to win a championship and it's not illegal, if he does not want to be criticized, he should not talk sh*t about other superstars, did Giannis want to hear that he only won because his team was playing against an injured Brooklyn Nets?
That's true. He should not boast about it too much since it's only his first championship.
What if it will also be the last? Then he will swallow his own words.

With respect to others who have won it even like Danny Green, Robert Horry, and even Steve Kerr.
Those guys may have been lucky or Steve just going for a winning shot but those are still efforts.
Any player in one team who won a championship has gone thru rigorous training with them off-camera so they also had their share of a team being a champion.
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July 24, 2021, 09:37:23 AM
What kind you say about Giannis post game interview, he somewhat throw some on KD and Lebron winning rings with other super stars (super teams).

So would you rather have Giannis 1 ring against KD 2 with the GSW or Lebron's 2 with Miami?

It's a whole lot of debate that I have been hearing around social media now.
Not that impossible they got the momentum now. For sure they'll restore the present roster they got by now but these other teams will surely create another one that may challenge them. Well, social media is somewhat overhyped and it's the way it used to be but it's a bold statement from the Greek Freak to be honest.

Just a heads up, we will be hearing superteam news on social media in the coming months until we get onto the next season, another interesting things to follow. Never gets old.
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July 24, 2021, 09:35:44 AM

I think Giannis has to respect Lebron and Durant, they join a team because they want to win a championship and it's not illegal, if he does not want to be criticized, he should not talk sh*t about other superstars, did Giannis want to hear that he only won because his team was playing against an injured Brooklyn Nets?

Respect indeed, he may be the man of the moment after winning the title but the question is how long he will

hold this, knowing that there are many rivals in this coming new season, better to stay humble and prove your worth without saying
against anyone, you'll be love by the fans more. Look how MJ kill all those rivals stars from his era, by simply climbing without any
self claimed he destroy everyone to bring himself at the very top!

Exactly, the chance of the Bucks to win the NBA Finals or even advance in the NBA Finals is not high if they were able to face a healthy Brooklyn Nets, and if they got lucky and advance in the NBA Finals, they might struggle against a healthy LA Clippers.

That's just my opinion, and I really believe Bucks would not win.

Look, I'm not a hater of Giannis, in fact I bet on the Bucks to win against the Suns, I'm just telling the reality.
They got lucky Irving and harden is hurt, with Irving in those match up, bucks might have not made it to the finals, durant alone is not enough, but the experience of Irving is very important if they face Brooklyn again and the team is still intact, I think it will be a different result, it's just unfortunate for the nets, even though giannis won a championship he should be still down to earth.
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July 24, 2021, 09:20:12 AM

I think Giannis has to respect Lebron and Durant, they join a team because they want to win a championship and it's not illegal, if he does not want to be criticized, he should not talk sh*t about other superstars, did Giannis want to hear that he only won because his team was playing against an injured Brooklyn Nets?

Respect indeed, he may be the man of the moment after winning the title but the question is how long he will

hold this, knowing that there are many rivals in this coming new season, better to stay humble and prove your worth without saying
against anyone, you'll be love by the fans more. Look how MJ kill all those rivals stars from his era, by simply climbing without any
self claimed he destroy everyone to bring himself at the very top!

Exactly, the chance of the Bucks to win the NBA Finals or even advance in the NBA Finals is not high if they were able to face a healthy Brooklyn Nets, and if they got lucky and advance in the NBA Finals, they might struggle against a healthy LA Clippers.

That's just my opinion, and I really believe Bucks would not win.

Look, I'm not a hater of Giannis, in fact I bet on the Bucks to win against the Suns, I'm just telling the reality.
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July 24, 2021, 09:14:51 AM

I think Giannis has to respect Lebron and Durant, they join a team because they want to win a championship and it's not illegal, if he does not want to be criticized, he should not talk sh*t about other superstars, did Giannis want to hear that he only won because his team was playing against an injured Brooklyn Nets?

Respect indeed, he may be the man of the moment after winning the title but the question is how long he will

hold this, knowing that there are many rivals in this coming new season, better to stay humble and prove your worth without saying
against anyone, you'll be love by the fans more. Look how MJ kill all those rivals stars from his era, by simply climbing without any
self claimed he destroy everyone to bring himself at the very top!
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July 24, 2021, 08:57:37 AM
What kind you say about Giannis post game interview, he somewhat throw some on KD and Lebron winning rings with other super stars (super teams).

So would you rather have Giannis 1 ring against KD 2 with the GSW or Lebron's 2 with Miami?

It's a whole lot of debate that I have been hearing around social media now.

For me all rings are created equal, it's not the first time that we have heard about this super teams.

If I remember correctly, the Boston Celtics has super teams in the 60's, Bill Russell, Bob Cousy, KC Jones and other future hall of famers.

So for me, I don't have an issue with KD joining the GSW for a title run, or James teaming up with DWade in Miami.

I think Giannis has to respect Lebron and Durant, they join a team because they want to win a championship and it's not illegal, if he does not want to be criticized, he should not talk sh*t about other superstars, did Giannis want to hear that he only won because his team was playing against an injured Brooklyn Nets?
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July 24, 2021, 08:17:55 AM
The documentary is about the famous brawl in the league, "Malice in the Palace". I like to see some inside stuff and never-before-seen information and untold stories on the 5 week run of the documentary.

The premier will be on August 10.
Thank you for this harizen. We have only seen what the NBA allowed to be televised but most probably there are a lot which they buried in secrecy for viewers 18 below. I would love to see this documentary too and will even purchase a pay-per-view if needed.
I was watching that game live while I was still underage and they cut the game and get back with Ron Artest lying on administration table (the one they get their powders at and substitution) until a fan threw a bottle of water to him. Then it was cut again. They thought it all calmed down until that bottle.  Grin
Want to hear some insights with the players too or if they can get their hands on that fan who threw the bottled water.
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July 24, 2021, 03:29:44 AM
What kind you say about Giannis post game interview, he somewhat throw some on KD and Lebron winning rings with other super stars (super teams).

I can't find the part of the interview about that. Is this the post-game interview of him in front of the media?

Or is this the video about a debate between analysts Stephen A. Smith, Max Kellerman, and Kendrick Perkins whether they would want to have Kevin Durant’s two rings with the Golden State Warriors by joining a super team or have Giannis Antetokounmpo’s one ring? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFhcZ1Miluo

I try to search it in Youtube mate,

Here is what I got: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBOGG0EiDV8

Go forward 1:22, (audio is shit though), he basically says that this is the hard way to do it. He can go to other teams to form a super team and it's easy - that's according to Giannis. Well Nowitzki did in in Dallas winnings against a Lebron lead Miami. And then now Giannis, but this is going to be a long debate for NBA fans whether super teams are bad or not.
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July 24, 2021, 03:19:42 AM
What kind you say about Giannis post game interview, he somewhat throw some on KD and Lebron winning rings with other super stars (super teams).

I can't find the part of the interview about that. Is this the post-game interview of him in front of the media?

Or is this the video about a debate between analysts Stephen A. Smith, Max Kellerman, and Kendrick Perkins whether they would want to have Kevin Durant’s two rings with the Golden State Warriors by joining a super team or have Giannis Antetokounmpo’s one ring? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFhcZ1Miluo
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July 24, 2021, 02:39:07 AM
What kind you say about Giannis post game interview, he somewhat throw some on KD and Lebron winning rings with other super stars (super teams).

So would you rather have Giannis 1 ring against KD 2 with the GSW or Lebron's 2 with Miami?

It's a whole lot of debate that I have been hearing around social media now.

For me all rings are created equal, it's not the first time that we have heard about this super teams.

If I remember correctly, the Boston Celtics has super teams in the 60's, Bill Russell, Bob Cousy, KC Jones and other future hall of famers.

So for me, I don't have an issue with KD joining the GSW for a title run, or James teaming up with DWade in Miami.
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July 23, 2021, 10:15:17 PM
Could this be the end up super teams? Likely not but we shall see.

The idea of building a superteam will always be associated with the league while it's moving forward. As I mentioned before way back here, having a set of good role players is much better compare to having 2-3 superstars on a team so I don't really mind these superteams.

I really don't take it as superteams are unbeatable and a sure win to the championship due to several factors such as;

a) injuries and we all saw it these playoffs creating lots of "what if" scenarios
b) underperforming (choke)
c) big adjustment by the opposing team
d) sudden chemistry problem

and many more..
Jealousy.  Road to MVP contest in one team.

Superteams are like villains of the game. It also takes out the fun and balance of the whole association. They input a salary cap for that reason.
They can't go hiring every star player out there then end up with just 5 players who can really play basketball.
A team needs someone to back him up whenever one needs a breather or an accident happens. I think Bobby Portis Jr. is a good example of this event.
Whenever Giannis needs a breather he is always ready and he stepped up his game when he was injured.
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July 23, 2021, 10:08:17 PM
What kind you say about Giannis post game interview, he somewhat throw some on KD and Lebron winning rings with other super stars (super teams).

So would you rather have Giannis 1 ring against KD 2 with the GSW or Lebron's 2 with Miami?

It's a whole lot of debate that I have been hearing around social media now.
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July 23, 2021, 10:02:38 PM
You are probably right that Paul might be able to play at least three more seasons. However, it is worth noting that Paul has a player option in his contract for next season. It means he can stay with the Suns for one more season, or he might become an unrestricted free agent. So I won’t be surprised if he decides to join the lakers. The trio of Paul, James, and Davis would look very strong.
Well... that's an interesting subject, I don't know if CP3 would leave the Suns, because he was the first team he made it to the NBA Finals, if CP3 goes to the another team they'll probably call him a cupcake.
The Suns are a good team, but I think some adjustments need to be made.
I don't know what Antetokounmpo's contract with the Bucks looks like, but I believe it's easier for Antetokounmpo to go to the Lakers or Warrios than CP3.
Antetokounmpo kept his word and he with other players, they brought a title for Bucks

Ayton and Booker played in the NBA Playoffs for the first time last playoffs so maybe there is a bit of a problem there especially the experience factor but now that they've already experienced it and they know the feeling, they will come back stronger this year.

Let the core players stay like Paul, Booker and Ayton. Trade some players especially their bigs. I'm thinking right now if they might get Howard or Love into the team. For sure that would be a great addition to their inside defense or even just another big that isn't prone to injuries. They will improve for sure Smiley
I think it will be interesting for the Suns to bring tall and experienced player to help Ayton. A PF or C would make a big difference. Some players I believe would be a good fit... Drummond, Brook Lopez, Steve Adams, Myles Turner and others.
But for that, the Suns will have to propose a very interesting offer for these players.

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July 23, 2021, 07:28:16 PM
The Lakers rumors are already heating up. Today’s word on the street is that Demar Derozan and Kyle Lowry want to team up on the Lakers. I could see them both taking a lot less money to make that happen given Derozan’s desire for a ring as well as playing in Los Angeles, while Lowry definitely wants to play with his friend again and see him succeed. My only question is if those players are really the catch they were several years ago… Personally, I’d take Dame over them both without question.

Actually as early as the beginning of last year season, Lowry wanted out of Toronto and there are news that he is heading to Lakers already. But the deal fizzled out, and eventually Lowry has to play in Toronto's jersey's again for the remainder of the regular season and obviously they suffered with Lowry not playing.

Yeah, Dame is an easy pick, good addition and Lakers can do a trade, any players at their roster not name Lebron and Davis.
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July 23, 2021, 06:35:35 PM
The Lakers rumors are already heating up. Today’s word on the street is that Demar Derozan and Kyle Lowry want to team up on the Lakers. I could see them both taking a lot less money to make that happen given Derozan’s desire for a ring as well as playing in Los Angeles, while Lowry definitely wants to play with his friend again and see him succeed. My only question is if those players are really the catch they were several years ago… Personally, I’d take Dame over them both without question.
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July 23, 2021, 06:11:10 PM
The next season is so far away and I saw on social media that people are already praying and telling that Clippers will win next year. Now , let me be very clear when I say that Clippers will struggle again and it might be the last year for Kawhi there.

Its there fans asking that to happen and its pretty normal.

But I don't like the idea of leaving if they didn't win a championshio since if kawhi like that to happen well he should help his team if not on stats maybe to helo them increase there morale in the game but this championship winning is kinda not gonna happen for then next year since solid teams are still intact to their team and he will strugle if he just rant and asking for good perfornance to his teammates.

Clippers do struggle because of the injury of Leonard, if he was healthy, then we might see a different result in the NBA Finals as they will be likely the favorites to win the championship. let us not forget that Kawhi beat Giannis' team when he was still playing with the Toronto Raptors and on the same year, he led the Raptors to achieve their first championship.

Yeah the game will be totally different if Kawhi is healthy but it looks like he always got injured in crucial games   Cheesy maybe he need to adjust on the game so that he can last on his play off run. Also we cannot compare the  raptors rooster to bucks before since even then Raptors have solid players which can able to win a champ without Kawhi, Siakam and Vanvleet also got huge contribution to that past championship compare to know where seems the Clippers rooster are so relying to Kawhi since George is a season player.

I would nor.ally agree with you but George played great.  If kahwi was healthy it certainly been a different series with the Suns.  Suns might have still won but kahwi going down was huge.
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July 23, 2021, 06:04:32 PM
The next season is so far away and I saw on social media that people are already praying and telling that Clippers will win next year. Now , let me be very clear when I say that Clippers will struggle again and it might be the last year for Kawhi there.

Its there fans asking that to happen and its pretty normal.

But I don't like the idea of leaving if they didn't win a championshio since if kawhi like that to happen well he should help his team if not on stats maybe to helo them increase there morale in the game but this championship winning is kinda not gonna happen for then next year since solid teams are still intact to their team and he will strugle if he just rant and asking for good perfornance to his teammates.

Clippers do struggle because of the injury of Leonard, if he was healthy, then we might see a different result in the NBA Finals as they will be likely the favorites to win the championship. let us not forget that Kawhi beat Giannis' team when he was still playing with the Toronto Raptors and on the same year, he led the Raptors to achieve their first championship.

Yeah the game will be totally different if Kawhi is healthy but it looks like he always got injured in crucial games   Cheesy maybe he need to adjust on the game so that he can last on his play off run. Also we cannot compare the  raptors rooster to bucks before since even then Raptors have solid players which can able to win a champ without Kawhi, Siakam and Vanvleet also got huge contribution to that past championship compare to know where seems the Clippers rooster are so relying to Kawhi since George is a season player.
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