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November 11, 2021, 01:10:24 AM
Great game on ESPN between the Heat and Lakers right now. Heading into overtime and the Lakers are looking pretty good. Carmelo is showing he’s still one of the best scorers in the game and Westbrook came through in the clutch to comeback and force overtime. Seems like they have the momentum. A great 5 minutes of basketball about to happen…
Lakers won the game, IIRC, this is the first time that they win against a legit playoff team this season, so I'm happy for them as they give the heat a tough match and they won at home even without Lebron. Melo is really valuable for the team he stepped up in the Absence of Lebron.

Also, what's noticeable in this game is Westbrooks triple-double with 21 points, 14 assists, and 12 rebounds, however, the TO is too high with 8 in this game. Congrats to the Lakers and the backers who trust them despite being the underdog in this game.
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November 11, 2021, 12:44:18 AM
Great game on ESPN between the Heat and Lakers right now. Heading into overtime and the Lakers are looking pretty good. Carmelo is showing he’s still one of the best scorers in the game and Westbrook came through in the clutch to comeback and force overtime. Seems like they have the momentum. A great 5 minutes of basketball about to happen…
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November 10, 2021, 11:01:02 PM
The Jokic situation seems worse than it is I think.  Morris hit him with a cheap shot and then turned his back.  It must have been a lapse of judgement or him trying to get away with a cheap shot on an MVP thinking he wouldn't retaliate.  Shaq said it best, "when you hit me, don't turn your head because it's coming."
I agree with Shaq there. Jokic doesn't need to feel "too bad" for what he did. That was a dirty move and as a man, it's just normal to react like that. Using the MVP card is a dirty move by basketball analysts too and now I am starting to unfollow those guys and maybe just listen to Shaq all day long.
Protecting the one who initiated the hard contact and putting the blame on those who react? What kind of logic is that? I am not Jesus to give my other cheek for you to enjoy slapping again.

This isn't a big issue at all when we were in the 90s but we have social media now where people can also join to escalate the issue and now things got complicated when everyone has their own comment about what happened. I hope they playback again normally when they finally conclude that nothing serious has happened and all of that is just because of how intense the game was.
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November 10, 2021, 10:03:52 PM
The Jokic situation seems worse than it is I think.  Morris hit him with a cheap shot and then turned his back.  It must have been a lapse of judgement or him trying to get away with a cheap shot on an MVP thinking he wouldn't retaliate.  Shaq said it best, "when you hit me, don't turn your head because it's coming."
I agree with Shaq there. Jokic doesn't need to feel "too bad" for what he did. That was a dirty move and as a man, it's just normal to react like that. Using the MVP card is a dirty move by basketball analysts too and now I am starting to unfollow those guys and maybe just listen to Shaq all day long.
Protecting the one who initiated the hard contact and putting the blame on those who react? What kind of logic is that? I am not Jesus to give my other cheek for you to enjoy slapping again.
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November 10, 2021, 09:43:25 PM
This match will definitely be difficult for the Lakers. However, if Russell Westbrook doesn't make a lot of turnovers in this match, then they will have a good chance to win the Heat. At least I hope the Lakers will prove that they can beat a strong opponent without Lebron James.

That's a big if, lol.

I'm actually a pretty big Russ fan, and I think that the energy that he brings onto the court is contagious... But I'm the first to admit that he is definitely not the most efficient scorer of the basketball.

He needs to realize that it's not all stats. Take care of the ball, and don't care about assists/points/averaging a triple double.
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November 10, 2021, 08:35:22 PM
There is a really big game this morning between Los Angeles Lakers and Miami Heat in Staples Center. It is unfortunate to see Lebron James not being able to play because of an abdominal strain. But it can still be a very competitive game with A. Davis, Westbrook and C. Anthony. Lakers didn't make a very ideal start to the season. They were able to won 6 of their 11 games so far. And Miami are one of the best teams this season considering the performances so far. They are still the leader in the Eastern Conference (7W 3L). And Miami beat Lakers away in their last two head-to-heads. We can see another victory for them.
This match will definitely be difficult for the Lakers. However, if Russell Westbrook doesn't make a lot of turnovers in this match, then they will have a good chance to win the Heat. At least I hope the Lakers will prove that they can beat a strong opponent without Lebron James.
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November 10, 2021, 08:04:12 PM
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Since there's no amount stated on how much Jokic would lose too. I made a research and I believe that he won't get paid for one game suspension. So here's the computation, Jokic is making $31,579,390 this season and in NBA they have 82 games, so we will divide his salary to 82 and he loses 385,114.51 dollars for not playing one game, bigger than what Morris and Butler lose. ...

source of salary, http://www.espn.com/nba/salaries
Yes Jokic won't get paid due to the suspension and that was already expected. He may have lost more money but that's still small compared to his million dollar contract.

I'm merely talking about Morris after throwing an elbow and walked away as if nothing happened. He deserved what he got and the fine was only a small part of it.

Yeah, it is expected that Jokic will be suspended plus fines. To show the NBA that they are really serious and no bias, even if you are the reigning MVP.

Perhaps we has trying to stay cool as if nothing happened and it almost works because the referee didn't see it until Jokic retaliate. I think the NBA should also look at Morris attitude on the play and why Jokic reacted that way.
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November 10, 2021, 07:28:58 PM
The worst game ever televised?  That's what some are saying about tonight's ESPN matchup between the Rockets and Pistons.  Safe to say I'll be avoiding this one.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/tonight-s-rockets-pistons-game-might-be-the-worst-nba-matchup-espn-has-ever-broadcast/ar-AAQyqIL?ocid=msedgntp

The Jokic situation seems worse than it is I think.  Morris hit him with a cheap shot and then turned his back.  It must have been a lapse of judgement or him trying to get away with a cheap shot on an MVP thinking he wouldn't retaliate.  Shaq said it best, "when you hit me, don't turn your head because it's coming."
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November 10, 2021, 06:24:36 PM
There is a really big game this morning between Los Angeles Lakers and Miami Heat in Staples Center. It is unfortunate to see Lebron James not being able to play because of an abdominal strain. But it can still be a very competitive game with A. Davis, Westbrook and C. Anthony. Lakers didn't make a very ideal start to the season. They were able to won 6 of their 11 games so far. And Miami are one of the best teams this season considering the performances so far. They are still the leader in the Eastern Conference (7W 3L). And Miami beat Lakers away in their last two head-to-heads. We can see another victory for them.
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November 10, 2021, 05:23:49 PM
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Since there's no amount stated on how much Jokic would lose too. I made a research and I believe that he won't get paid for one game suspension. So here's the computation, Jokic is making $31,579,390 this season and in NBA they have 82 games, so we will divide his salary to 82 and he loses 385,114.51 dollars for not playing one game, bigger than what Morris and Butler lose. ...

source of salary, http://www.espn.com/nba/salaries
Yes Jokic won't get paid due to the suspension and that was already expected. He may have lost more money but that's still small compared to his million dollar contract.

I'm merely talking about Morris after throwing an elbow and walked away as if nothing happened. He deserved what he got and the fine was only a small part of it.
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November 10, 2021, 05:07:20 PM
That's gangsta Jimmy for you, Lol, but I like the attitude though, he is the leader of the team so he is supposedly to protect everyone to the point wherein he want's to take the whole Nuggets team by himself.

Not really - it was honestly quite soft given that he had waited until Jokic was well away from him to make these moves, lol.

In either case, it would a great game and good to see some emotion from the big Serbian.

The Morris twins have certainly got themselves into this stuff, if and they are going to play tough, they should back it up.

I know the Morris brothers are tough, the reason why they are still in the NBA now but their taunting is too much, they seem like they keep that anger on Jokic on whatever team they will play with. I don't know what's gonna be like if these two teams will meet again in the future, and hopefully there's no more altercation that will happen as the NBA could impose a more serious sanction to them.
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November 10, 2021, 05:03:45 PM
That's gangsta Jimmy for you, Lol, but I like the attitude though, he is the leader of the team so he is supposedly to protect everyone to the point wherein he want's to take the whole Nuggets team by himself.

Not really - it was honestly quite soft given that he had waited until Jokic was well away from him to make these moves, lol.

In either case, it would a great game and good to see some emotion from the big Serbian.

The Morris twins have certainly got themselves into this stuff, if and they are going to play tough, they should back it up.
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November 10, 2021, 04:58:16 PM
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Nuggets' Nikola Jokic suspended one game, Heat's Markieff Morris, Jimmy Butler fined for altercation
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MIAMI — After Denver’s Nikola Jokic and Miami’s Markieff Morris hit one another, the NBA hit back. And the reigning MVP took the worst of that.

Jokic has been suspended one game for shoving Morris in the back, the league announced Tuesday night. That means Jokic won’t play on Wednesday when the Nuggets host Indiana.

Morris won’t be playing on Wednesday, either: The Heat said he has a neck injury, diagnosed as whiplash, and has been ruled out from Miami’s matchup at the Los Angeles Lakers.

Morris was fined $50,000 for his role in the mess, and Heat forward Jimmy Butler drew a $30,000 fine "for attempting to escalate the altercation and failing to comply with an NBA Security interview as part of the review process pertaining to an on-court matter," the league said.
The amount maybe small but the $50K fine and the neck injury sounds about right.
Jokic was lucky it's only one game. His behavior after the shoving helped reduce the days I think.

Since there's no amount stated on how much Jokic would lose too. I made a research and I believe that he won't get paid for one game suspension. So here's the computation, Jokic is making $31,579,390 this season and in NBA they have 82 games, so we will divide his salary to 82 and he loses 385,114.51 dollars for not playing one game, bigger than what Morris and Butler lose. ...

source of salary, http://www.espn.com/nba/salaries
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November 10, 2021, 04:48:50 PM
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What can you say about the Hawks slump though? they have been in the Eastern Conference finals last year and now they in a 5 game losing streak.
I think they are done for the season. Maybe it's too early to tell but we should probably forget about this team for now. I'm actually quite happy that Trae is struggling with the introduction of the anti-foul baiting rule. He's still a young talent but his true skills are wasted on such a cheap trick to get more points.

It's not surprising a finalist in the past season drops in the next. Eyes are usually on them by eliminated teams as they prepare strategies for the next season.

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Nuggets' Nikola Jokic suspended one game, Heat's Markieff Morris, Jimmy Butler fined for altercation
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MIAMI — After Denver’s Nikola Jokic and Miami’s Markieff Morris hit one another, the NBA hit back. And the reigning MVP took the worst of that.

Jokic has been suspended one game for shoving Morris in the back, the league announced Tuesday night. That means Jokic won’t play on Wednesday when the Nuggets host Indiana.

Morris won’t be playing on Wednesday, either: The Heat said he has a neck injury, diagnosed as whiplash, and has been ruled out from Miami’s matchup at the Los Angeles Lakers.

Morris was fined $50,000 for his role in the mess, and Heat forward Jimmy Butler drew a $30,000 fine "for attempting to escalate the altercation and failing to comply with an NBA Security interview as part of the review process pertaining to an on-court matter," the league said.
The amount maybe small but the $50K fine and the neck injury sounds about right.
Jokic was lucky it's only one game. His behavior after the shoving helped reduce the days I think.
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November 10, 2021, 04:41:42 PM
Hehe Morris acting like he was run over by a truck after giving a hard foul. He could have sent someone flying if it was someone smaller and not a bigger guy in Jokic. Call it cheap shot but I think what Jokic did was fine to send a message that he's not to be taken lightly. It would have been better if it was a push but Morris would have acted the same way.
That is something we normally see in the 90's era, but the difference is, they keep the intensity of the rivalry inside the court. Unlike what happened to this brothers who took the everything even in the social media. They kinda acting like kids quarreling in the social media lol.

However, I don't know why Jimmy Butler was so mad about it that he was willing to put his career on the line just to have a brawl with the whole Nuggets team lol.
I think Jimmy Butler has always been like that, he is a hardcore person just showing his true colors whenever something like this happens. I would LOVE to have a teammate that supports me like that, even if it is putting your career on the line (which let's be honest we all know nothing would be allowed and security wouldn't let them) it is still good to know that there is a teammate out there who is willing to go the extra mile to support me.

I know that it may look dangerous and risky and even maybe purely "bad" when he does it to our eyes, sure we may not support it and we should want everyone to be friendly with each other and not want anyone to fight at all. However if I am there, if Jokic is pushing me to ground, the thing I want to see is not "Jokic did something wrong, he should apologize" type of teammate, I want someone to wait at the gate with me.

Jimmy is the leader of the team, he is just showing his toughness too. What's important is that there was no brawl in that game although they take their fight on social media for sure the NBA will do something to stop that as it's not any more acceptable especially for the fans of both teams. And as I said, the NBA has come up with their decision regarding the incident.

Nuggets' Nikola Jokic suspended one game, Heat's Markieff Morris, Jimmy Butler fined for altercation
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MIAMI — After Denver’s Nikola Jokic and Miami’s Markieff Morris hit one another, the NBA hit back. And the reigning MVP took the worst of that.

Jokic has been suspended one game for shoving Morris in the back, the league announced Tuesday night. That means Jokic won’t play on Wednesday when the Nuggets host Indiana.

Morris won’t be playing on Wednesday, either: The Heat said he has a neck injury, diagnosed as whiplash, and has been ruled out from Miami’s matchup at the Los Angeles Lakers.

Morris was fined $50,000 for his role in the mess, and Heat forward Jimmy Butler drew a $30,000 fine "for attempting to escalate the altercation and failing to comply with an NBA Security interview as part of the review process pertaining to an on-court matter," the league said.
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November 10, 2021, 04:30:10 PM
Hehe Morris acting like he was run over by a truck after giving a hard foul. He could have sent someone flying if it was someone smaller and not a bigger guy in Jokic. Call it cheap shot but I think what Jokic did was fine to send a message that he's not to be taken lightly. It would have been better if it was a push but Morris would have acted the same way.
That is something we normally see in the 90's era, but the difference is, they keep the intensity of the rivalry inside the court. Unlike what happened to this brothers who took the everything even in the social media. They kinda acting like kids quarreling in the social media lol.

However, I don't know why Jimmy Butler was so mad about it that he was willing to put his career on the line just to have a brawl with the whole Nuggets team lol.
I think Jimmy Butler has always been like that, he is a hardcore person just showing his true colors whenever something like this happens. I would LOVE to have a teammate that supports me like that, even if it is putting your career on the line (which let's be honest we all know nothing would be allowed and security wouldn't let them) it is still good to know that there is a teammate out there who is willing to go the extra mile to support me.

I know that it may look dangerous and risky and even maybe purely "bad" when he does it to our eyes, sure we may not support it and we should want everyone to be friendly with each other and not want anyone to fight at all. However if I am there, if Jokic is pushing me to ground, the thing I want to see is not "Jokic did something wrong, he should apologize" type of teammate, I want someone to wait at the gate with me.
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November 10, 2021, 04:16:43 PM
Hehe Morris acting like he was run over by a truck after giving a hard foul. He could have sent someone flying if it was someone smaller and not a bigger guy in Jokic. Call it cheap shot but I think what Jokic did was fine to send a message that he's not to be taken lightly. It would have been better if it was a push but Morris would have acted the same way.

That is something we normally see in the 90's era, but the difference is, they keep the intensity of the rivalry inside the court. Unlike what happened to this brothers who took the everything even in the social media. They kinda acting like kids quarreling in the social media lol.

However, I don't know why Jimmy Butler was so mad about it that he was willing to put his career on the line just to have a brawl with the whole Nuggets team lol.

What can you say about the Hawks slump though? they have been in the Eastern Conference finals last year and now they in a 5 game losing streak.
Probably with most of the teams have upgraded their roster, the Hawks have difficulty now to beat any team. Plus, Trae Young is not that effective as compare to last year, maybe because of the new rule. But I've notice is that he is not that aggressive compare to last year though. Collins, Bogdan and Gallinari should step up and help Trae in offense. They can match any team up to the 3rd quarter. But entering the last quarter, they seems to falter out.
I noticed that too; they are in the game in the first 3 quarters but in the final they fell short,

Hawks are not getting the rhythm. I see that they are trying, but the new rules are making it more difficult for them to adjust.
Trae is not benefiting knowing the style of his game, he's more relying on how the ref will buy his move and make a call.

Though they try to come back but jazz played solid, Mitchel, Clarkson and Bojan towered the offense, ensuring that they will win in front of their home crowd, another amazing performance and showcasing of a good system for the entire team.



I was thinking of better Hawks this season but it looks like my expectations are wrong. Young's production is decreasing, I mean he is not anymore in the top 10 (https://www.nba.com/stats/leaders/?SeasonType=Regular%20Season). As you can see, his previous season was really good and the Hawks are competing very well against the top teams but this season, they have a lot of losses that are in a huge margin.

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November 10, 2021, 02:20:20 PM
Hehe Morris acting like he was run over by a truck after giving a hard foul. He could have sent someone flying if it was someone smaller and not a bigger guy in Jokic. Call it cheap shot but I think what Jokic did was fine to send a message that he's not to be taken lightly. It would have been better if it was a push but Morris would have acted the same way.

That is something we normally see in the 90's era, but the difference is, they keep the intensity of the rivalry inside the court. Unlike what happened to this brothers who took the everything even in the social media. They kinda acting like kids quarreling in the social media lol.

However, I don't know why Jimmy Butler was so mad about it that he was willing to put his career on the line just to have a brawl with the whole Nuggets team lol.

What can you say about the Hawks slump though? they have been in the Eastern Conference finals last year and now they in a 5 game losing streak.
Probably with most of the teams have upgraded their roster, the Hawks have difficulty now to beat any team. Plus, Trae Young is not that effective as compare to last year, maybe because of the new rule. But I've notice is that he is not that aggressive compare to last year though. Collins, Bogdan and Gallinari should step up and help Trae in offense. They can match any team up to the 3rd quarter. But entering the last quarter, they seems to falter out.
I noticed that too; they are in the game in the first 3 quarters but in the final they fell short,

Hawks are not getting the rhythm. I see that they are trying, but the new rules are making it more difficult for them to adjust.
Trae is not benefiting knowing the style of his game, he's more relying on how the ref will buy his move and make a call.

Though they try to come back but jazz played solid, Mitchel, Clarkson and Bojan towered the offense, ensuring that they will win in front of their home crowd, another amazing performance and showcasing of a good system for the entire team.

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November 10, 2021, 01:07:03 PM
Hehe Morris acting like he was run over by a truck after giving a hard foul. He could have sent someone flying if it was someone smaller and not a bigger guy in Jokic. Call it cheap shot but I think what Jokic did was fine to send a message that he's not to be taken lightly. It would have been better if it was a push but Morris would have acted the same way.

That is something we normally see in the 90's era, but the difference is, they keep the intensity of the rivalry inside the court. Unlike what happened to this brothers who took the everything even in the social media. They kinda acting like kids quarreling in the social media lol.

However, I don't know why Jimmy Butler was so mad about it that he was willing to put his career on the line just to have a brawl with the whole Nuggets team lol.

What can you say about the Hawks slump though? they have been in the Eastern Conference finals last year and now they in a 5 game losing streak.
Probably with most of the teams have upgraded their roster, the Hawks have difficulty now to beat any team. Plus, Trae Young is not that effective as compare to last year, maybe because of the new rule. But I've notice is that he is not that aggressive compare to last year though. Collins, Bogdan and Gallinari should step up and help Trae in offense. They can match any team up to the 3rd quarter. But entering the last quarter, they seems to falter out.
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November 10, 2021, 11:56:56 AM
Hehe Morris acting like he was run over by a truck after giving a hard foul. He could have sent someone flying if it was someone smaller and not a bigger guy in Jokic. Call it cheap shot but I think what Jokic did was fine to send a message that he's not to be taken lightly. It would have been better if it was a push but Morris would have acted the same way.

That is something we normally see in the 90's era, but the difference is, they keep the intensity of the rivalry inside the court. Unlike what happened to this brothers who took the everything even in the social media. They kinda acting like kids quarreling in the social media lol.

However, I don't know why Jimmy Butler was so mad about it that he was willing to put his career on the line just to have a brawl with the whole Nuggets team lol.

That's gangsta Jimmy for you, Lol, but I like the attitude though, he is the leader of the team so he is supposedly to protect everyone to the point wherein he want's to take the whole Nuggets team by himself.

What can you say about the Hawks slump though? they have been in the Eastern Conference finals last year and now they in a 5 game losing streak.
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