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Quote from: ene1980 on June 28, 2021, 06:48:59 PM

The person is trying to sell his book and make money out of it and everyone is thinking that what he said is inside information, but from the words the only thing i could understand was that he is speculating whether Pacquiao vs Bradley was a fix which means he is throwing names out so that he could attain the controversy he is looking for to sell his book.

I am sure that if he is sued for libel, he will only be happy as it will draw noise and attention to his book. But everyone understands everything, so they just ignore him (at least I have not heard of lawsuits against him). I am sure that if the court asks him about the facts, he will not be able to provide anything but will refer to freedom of speech and opinion.

Freedom of speech has its limits and it seems to me that this is grounds for a libel lawsuit, after all Manny has a reputation to take care not only as an athlete but also as a politician, and to say that one of this fights was fixed is probably one of the worst things you can say to a professional athlete, however if this is not really a big publication and no one really cares about it then it could be better to ignore it. as not doing so will just help this person to sell more books.

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Quote from: ene1980 on June 28, 2021, 06:48:59 PM

The person is trying to sell his book and make money out of it and everyone is thinking that what he said is inside information, but from the words the only thing i could understand was that he is speculating whether Pacquiao vs Bradley was a fix which means he is throwing names out so that he could attain the controversy he is looking for to sell his book.

I am sure that if he is sued for libel, he will only be happy as it will draw noise and attention to his book. But everyone understands everything, so they just ignore him (at least I have not heard of lawsuits against him). I am sure that if the court asks him about the facts, he will not be able to provide anything but will refer to freedom of speech and opinion.

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Quote from: yazher on June 25, 2021, 01:06:04 PM

This guy has all the answers that we were asking about the sports industries. So it's all about the money, fans are just some props to make everything sets. that's why before the start of the fight, both fighters have some kind of short talk to make things more exciting which is obviously part of the plan. no matter how serious they are in their conversations it's ready to set up and the reporter who gonna ask some questions is already scripted. I wonder if the NBA games are also part of this thing.

The person is trying to sell his book and make money out of it and everyone is thinking that what he said is inside information, but from the words the only thing i could understand was that he is speculating whether Pacquiao vs Bradley was a fix which means he is throwing names out so that he could attain the controversy he is looking for to sell his book.

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What about the Pacquiao vs Spencer fight this August? will this be involving Mafia also? sorry I'm curious if that person is a legit part of mafia then He'll be on this one also.

And even how legit that person, do you really think that he will give a statement for an upcoming match?

Why not ? he did even admit about what happened in the past so what is the difference between old and the upcoming ?

if he is truthful in His confession then he will reveal everything from the past to present and future.

You clearly didn't get what I'm pointing out in that quote.

If there's an upcoming match, like Pacquiao vs Spence this August, do you really expect that you can have a statement from him about that match becoming rigged or fixed?

No one will know until it happened.

No one will ever televised that the match will be a fixed match because the money wont come to them, they have to do this in contract to silence both parties and just play the game until someone recognize as a winner and the loser will get a higher reward. We can only sure that the match is not fixed if they are going to publish the contract which I doubt to happen ever on any matches.

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What about the Pacquiao vs Spencer fight this August? will this be involving Mafia also? sorry I'm curious if that person is a legit part of mafia then He'll be on this one also.

And even how legit that person, do you really think that he will give a statement for an upcoming match?

Why not ? he did even admit about what happened in the past so what is the difference between old and the upcoming ?

if he is truthful in His confession then he will reveal everything from the past to present and future.

You clearly didn't get what I'm pointing out in that quote.

If there's an upcoming match, like Pacquiao vs Spence this August, do you really expect that you can have a statement from him about that match becoming rigged or fixed?

No one will know until it happened.

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Quote from: livingfree on June 24, 2021, 02:07:20 PM

I thought that this is no longer existing so as he retires, it means that there are still ongoing operations with these fixed matches. Well, the money is big and they can live happily by just sitting while watching their money comes to them with those matches that they fix.

Aside from fight fixing, I remember the story of Michael Jordan when he's approached by a mafia to let the game lose but he declined, and then, a tragedy happened.

Match fixing has always existed but the more popular the sport and the bigger what is at stake the more difficult it is to do so, however we know this happens, there are many cases of some of the biggest sport events being fixed and the worst part is that is only what we know, what percentage is that from the overall number of matches that are fixed? Is it the majority or it is just a drop on the ocean and in fact a great deal of the sporting competitions that we see are in fact fixed? No one really knows the answer to that.

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It's all about connection and money. Many athletes agrees with it (even he'll lost) as their agreement of a fixed match because he'll get more money than the agreement amount, it's a win win of course and a practical way of giving titles to someone who needs it, unlike giving it for free. Mayweather and Pacquiao matched before was also fixed in my opinion, I mean, if you already watched it, you'll noticed that their moves is scripted and not giving all their might to defeat one of them.

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Quote from: bitterguy28 on June 22, 2021, 06:46:01 AM

What about the Pacquiao vs Spencer fight this August? will this be involving Mafia also? sorry I'm curious if that person is a legit part of mafia then He'll be on this one also.

And even how legit that person, do you really think that he will give a statement for an upcoming match?

Why not ? he did even admit about what happened in the past so what is the difference between old and the upcoming ?

if he is truthful in His confession then he will reveal everything from the past to present and future.

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Quote from: just_Alice on June 19, 2021, 03:59:17 PM

Hahaha, amazing. Just this moment at 20:35 made me laugh so hard: "I wish I would've done more of it". It's really impressive how open Farrell is about it. Fight fixing is a serious illegal activity, one can be put in jail for that and be charged with a substantial fine.

I also found another interview from 2017 with him, it's not as informative as the new one, but I found it also quite entertaining.

If Charles Farrell is not lying, then this is terrible! Gambling should not be controlled by the mafia!

It is disgusting that psychological pressure is exerted on boxing athletes. Gangsters should not control sports and gambling.

I remember well the match between Pacio and Bradley. Both athletes are excellent boxers. However, I am in favor of fair competition. Match fixing is disgusting.

Bradley is a great boxer with good striking technique.

He has no reason to participate in the match fixing.

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Mafias Most Wanted Fight Fixer - Charles Farrell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DIX9ZvDkFc

this is just an interview of this man named Charles Farrell whom he claimed to be a fight fixer. he is there to promote his book "low life" which is about this mob who arrange some fights which they bet and the boxer they'd be rooting has to win. so they'd be talking to the referee and the boxers secretly like thugs. interesting discussion actaully. and it's funny somehow.

he is now retired but he gave an example of a fight that he thinks was a fix fight particularly the match between Pacquiao vs Bradley and he says here that in the mind of Pacquiao was that everyone can see that I will win this fight so it's not going to hurt him. Manny will still be the best money maker after this loss. It does mean like Manny was also being arranged.

all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

should this be a big win if we pick DRAW for the exhibition fights? sadly we can't see listing of them in crypto sport

I don't think what he says is true. Of course, it is probable, but probably it will never be verified, because certainly none of the players will admit it. On the other hand, I doubt anyone publicly admits to illegal things. In my opinion, it's just literary fiction.

The truth is we do not know that and we could only speculate. Only people involved in that match will know because if that match is fixing, they will hide that thing from the public. If that is right, maybe it needs investigation from the officers and association to solve the problem and not happen in the future. I think gambler does not care about that and if they win from that match, they will get their money.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

Mafias Most Wanted Fight Fixer - Charles Farrell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DIX9ZvDkFc

this is just an interview of this man named Charles Farrell whom he claimed to be a fight fixer. he is there to promote his book "low life" which is about this mob who arrange some fights which they bet and the boxer they'd be rooting has to win. so they'd be talking to the referee and the boxers secretly like thugs. interesting discussion actaully. and it's funny somehow.

he is now retired but he gave an example of a fight that he thinks was a fix fight particularly the match between Pacquiao vs Bradley and he says here that in the mind of Pacquiao was that everyone can see that I will win this fight so it's not going to hurt him. Manny will still be the best money maker after this loss. It does mean like Manny was also being arranged.

all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

should this be a big win if we pick DRAW for the exhibition fights? sadly we can't see listing of them in crypto sport

I don't think what he says is true. Of course, it is probable, but probably it will never be verified, because certainly none of the players will admit it. On the other hand, I doubt anyone publicly admits to illegal things. In my opinion, it's just literary fiction.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

should this be a big win if we pick DRAW for the exhibition fights? sadly we can't see listing of them in crypto sport

Well we all knew that mob fixed fights but that is not really something we should be shocked about, is it? I mean let's face it we are talking about something that is just way too obvious and was nearly open to public as well, we all knew it. However, I do not believe that the same thing is going on these days, it is just not the same thing and the top level fighters in boxing and in UFC are getting paid huge bucks these days and I do not think that they would be looking at mobs that much.

You really think that "rocky" is just a movie? There was a point in the history where almost all the boxers came from mob background because someone who fights well usually didn't get paid much in boxing when they first start, they get beaten up and they just get very tiny amount of money whereas when we are talking about mobs? They paid you very big bucks when you beat people for them. Not like that anymore, fighters are getting good amount even at the lowest end nowadays.

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Exhibition fights in general are fixed fights. Not in a sense then somebody really had to fix them as the mob did, but in a sense that in most cases fighters will not treat it like a real fight, and will not go in for the kill, agnowlaged by both fighters, it usually is only for show and that's it. The same principle applies to Mayweather vs Paul.

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Quote from: yazher on June 25, 2021, 01:06:04 PM

So it's all about the money, fans are just some props to make everything sets. that's why before the start of the fight, both fighters have some kind of short talk to make things more exciting which is obviously part of the plan. ..

I don't think that both players/fighters/teams knows about such kind of scheme on their very fight, I'm convinced that one of them is just a victim of more powerful people who's behind of such scheme. But some times maybe both parties knows, they just let their fans look like a fool.

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Quote from: Saisher on June 24, 2021, 06:23:59 PM

It's a very long video over one hour but game-fixing do exist it's an industry secret I don't know much about the guy but he is inviting controversy I don't know his book but could be a compilation of past big fights that are fixed and what methods they are using to manipulate those fights, but I don't like the part that Pacquiao is also bribed to fix the match, the man is fighting for the legacy he already had a lot of money and going to make a lot more if he wins, I don't think he can be bribe.

Fixing happens in every other sport but people usually avoid talking about it because it is such a thing that once you talk about it, you have to get dirty. I can tell you that even the biggest leagues fix games and even the matches in sports like tennis at the highest level are fixed as even Djokovic revealed he was contacted by one such guy. Imagine how one is able to get in touch with Djokovic let alone whether he failed to fix the game.

If one follows NBA, they must have seen how home teams are given a certain advantage in terms of referee decision making and in the biggest games, NBA will always ask their officials to favor the calls towards the team that is crowd favorite because it brings them more views and hence more revenue.

To get an idea of how much home-court advantage might exist in the NBA, you should visit this article: https://pudding.cool/2017/03/home-court/

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Quote from: harizen on June 24, 2021, 04:02:01 PM

Quote from: livingfree on June 24, 2021, 02:07:20 PM

I thought that this is no longer existing so as he retires, it means that there are still ongoing operations with these fixed matches.

That won't end. The organization is so big and they can influence even the top individuals.

Yeah, that's for sure and it's not just a secret organization that people won't know. Although they've been exposed, there's no way to stop them and even the top officials of these sporting events, they can't do something with it or they'll put their lives on the line.

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Quote from: livingfree on June 24, 2021, 02:07:20 PM

I remember the story of Michael Jordan when he's approached by a mafia to let the game lose but he declined, and then, a tragedy happened.

Based on "The Last Dance", that tragedy is not related to where Chicago Bulls should lose to a certain game.

It's more related to Michael Jordan's gambling habit which is no secret that during that time, he is addicted too much to gambling and finds ways to gamble alongside his basketball activity.

Thanks for that, I haven't watched the film yet.

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This guy has all the answers that we were asking about the sports industries. So it's all about the money, fans are just some props to make everything sets. that's why before the start of the fight, both fighters have some kind of short talk to make things more exciting which is obviously part of the plan. no matter how serious they are in their conversations it's ready to set up and the reporter who gonna ask some questions is already scripted. I wonder if the NBA games are also part of this thing.

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the people involve don't wanna talk about it either. if they do they are not just disappointing the mobs but the people watching the fights. the fans will feel like they are fooled.

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Quote from: just_Alice on June 19, 2021, 03:59:17 PM

Hahaha, amazing. Just this moment at 20:35 made me laugh so hard: "I wish I would've done more of it". It's really impressive how open Farrell is about it. Fight fixing is a serious illegal activity, one can be put in jail for that and be charged with a substantial fine.

I also found another interview from 2017 with him, it's not as informative as the new one, but I found it also quite entertaining.

This is common with criminals, most of them will eventually be caught and be on prison or worst but there is a small amount that will escape that fate through luck alone and then instead of actually being happy they were able to escape their fate they instead think that they should have committed even more crimes, fixing a boxing match is a crime almost everywhere and I do not know if he is going to escape the jail now that he is basically confessing about doing it.

in that interview, link dropped by Alice, Farell named few boxers he actually fixed which he did go to such length like managing a boxer himself and then adjusted an 8round match to 10rounds when he sees his man isn't winning. jezz if he'd do this today he'd be in big trouble.

i didnt really googled Farrell but he seem to be around for awhile talking about fixing fights in some article sites.

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Quote from: just_Alice on June 19, 2021, 03:59:17 PM

Hahaha, amazing. Just this moment at 20:35 made me laugh so hard: "I wish I would've done more of it". It's really impressive how open Farrell is about it. Fight fixing is a serious illegal activity, one can be put in jail for that and be charged with a substantial fine.

That interview and book are going to be like a pandora's box, there are organizations and gangster that will be put in the spotlight and he could be in big trouble unless he got the consent of these people and organizations, game fixing is an open secret, there's a lot of allegations but no concrete evidence because people do not want to cooperate and they want solid evidences.

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It's a very long video over one hour but game-fixing do exist it's an industry secret I don't know much about the guy but he is inviting controversy I don't know his book but could be a compilation of past big fights that are fixed and what methods they are using to manipulate those fights, but I don't like the part that Pacquiao is also bribed to fix the match, the man is fighting for the legacy he already had a lot of money and going to make a lot more if he wins, I don't think he can be bribe.

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