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Quote from: magneto on June 20, 2021, 04:24:15 AM

It may well be the case that this Farrell guy isn't legit, though. I highly doubt that actual high profile fight-fixers would willingly expose themselves due to potential trouble with law enforcement and retaliation from the underworld who lost money on bets, but they are certainly out there.

If it is about all book that he is promoting and to make money out of it, it's not even worth it, he will be in trouble all his life, from the authorities from organizations and from the syndicate, he is limiting himself for this and he will be targeted for liquidation at worse, there are many rumors about mafia involvement but no one's coming out to expose this, until this one, hope he has all the means to protect himself.

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Quote from: madnessteat on June 20, 2021, 03:35:04 PM

I think Charles Farrell may be in trouble now because of this interview.

I believe that what he said if proven then it is a crime, at least in my country and in many countries, it is a crime to manipulate in fights or in any other sport and also people who lose money thanks to manipulated games may want to do justice by physically hurting those responsible for manipulating the games. I doubt that anyone would be happy to lose a bet on a rigged game, I talked about my country's sport, one of the reasons why I do not like to bet on my country's soccer games Is because I suspect that there are rigged games

we need to put an end to this kind of misbehavior of manipulating games, Is bad and cruel to profit from that sort of thing. imagine someone spending time doing game analysis and spending money to find out that the game was manipulated in the end, this destroys the person who lost bet and money

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we know all, very well, that every sport event can be rigged.

about the option "draw" not available, this is a fault of gambler. If you don't see an option for bet you're playing with an handicap.
What about exchange market like betfair? if it was available in exchange probably Mayweather was quoted at @1.02 Cheesy

crazy odds...
with such odds, and these types of "events" (no real tournament) I will never try the obviously bet....

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

It could very well be fixed, I won't deny such a possibility because a colossal amount of money was involved. But I don't think it was fixed because look from what I know, all the sportsbooks, at least the crypto ones I play at, removed the lines and voided all such bets because the fight had no official judges to determine a winner.

If no book accepts betting on the event how come it would be fixed because the bettors can't win anything from the fight. Maybe some books accepted wager but since there was no winner then how would the bets be settled? Did the bettors bet on under/over for rounds? Only those bets can be settled I mean.

Fixing happens in all sports so very well could happen in boxing and MMA too but I think this is one of the least rigged sports from my observation because if you fight for losing, you will look awkward since the opponent is always coming for your head.

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Where there is a lot of money, there will always be all kinds of collusion and manipulation. We are all human beings and want to get by in life, so I am not at all surprised that many famous athletes and referees agree to participate in this kind of manipulation.

I think Charles Farrell may be in trouble now because of this interview.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on June 20, 2021, 05:46:31 AM

In any case, Pacquiao already avenge his defeat.

A sweet revenge indeed.

I don't know if the fight between pacman and the aussie boxer is a fixed fight but that was robbed as hell or just the judges is sleepy to compute their score cards.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

Mafias Most Wanted Fight Fixer - Charles Farrell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DIX9ZvDkFc

this is just an interview of this man named Charles Farrell whom he claimed to be a fight fixer. he is there to promote his book "low life" which is about this mob who arrange some fights which they bet and the boxer they'd be rooting has to win. so they'd be talking to the referee and the boxers secretly like thugs. interesting discussion actaully. and it's funny somehow.

he is now retired but he gave an example of a fight that he thinks was a fix fight particularly the match between Pacquiao vs Bradley and he says here that in the mind of Pacquiao was that everyone can see that I will win this fight so it's not going to hurt him. Manny will still be the best money maker after this loss. It does mean like Manny was also being arranged.

all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

should this be a big win if we pick DRAW for the exhibition fights? sadly we can't see listing of them in crypto sport

It's always fascinating getting a brief glimpse of the underworld and it most often comes after the people involved no longer have anything left to lose. In this case the guy is retired and probably has enough money to live the comfortable life he wants. It goes to show that even at the very top level of sports that it can be fixed in different ways, who knows if the fighters are involved when the judges can be fixing the scores regardless. There might be multiple different levels to it and it could change in-play based on fighter performance or signals. Lots of money is paid to host events with these fighters, so if the organizer was able to somehow rig it (much more acceptable in "friendly" matches) then they could recoup huge costs.

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Quote from: Darker45 on June 20, 2021, 05:18:32 AM

Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

That Bradley-Pacquiao match sounds more realistic, though.

Yeah, I still remember that fight, remember the date and where am I watching it because I was stun by the results. It was a clear victory for Pacquiao but the judges watches a different fight.

In any case, Pacquiao already avenge his defeat. I would say even the exhibition match between Tyson and Roy Jones is fixed, not sure if Mafia is involved though. Mayweather vs Logan is one scam fight.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

It is funny how you think the Mafia is actually stooping so low as to fix an exhibition fight. And not just any exhibition fight at that, it was an exhibition fight between an undefeated boxer, who has also gone cheap by fighting against anybody just for the money, and a Youtuber. I don't know, your suspicion may have some truth but I think the Mafia has a very poor taste if they had chosen to fix that trash of a battle.

That Bradley-Pacquiao match sounds more realistic, though.

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Not sure what you expected out of Logan vs. Mayweather. The fight was planned to be a money grab for both parties involved from the very start.

In terms of match fixing in actual fights, I think that it's probably a lot more widespread than people think.

It may well be the case that this Farrell guy isn't legit, though. I highly doubt that actual high profile fight-fixers would willingly expose themselves due to potential trouble with law enforcement and retaliation from the underworld who lost money on bets, but they are certainly out there.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

he is now retired but he gave an example of a fight that he thinks was a fix fight particularly the match between Pacquiao vs Bradley and he says here that in the mind of Pacquiao was that everyone can see that I will win this fight so it's not going to hurt him. Manny will still be the best money maker after this loss. It does mean like Manny was also being arranged.

I think most of us saw the match, it's obvious that the game was one-sided and Manny won that game. As a Filipino who is proud of Manny being a boxer, I know in my heart he won that fight without using any stat sheet.
Mayweather was also recognized in the video and just as we thought, he ain't going to lose any game for the money to keep on coming in.
Many gamblers will keep on betting against him just to see how he will react when he loses 1 match, but if the Mafia let's him lose, his market will go down substantially and making him worthless when he enters the ring.
There is one way to defeat him, knock him down without waking up until the referees is forced to stop it. Grin

Even with the payroll of Mafia if it's live television there is no way they can stop that.

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Quote from: bL4nkcode on June 19, 2021, 06:59:15 PM

Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

should this be a big win if we pick DRAW for the exhibition fights? sadly we can't see listing of them in crypto sport

That is obviously a yes, as there are many mayweather fights that looks like a fix fight to me especially for split decisions and its an obvious one.

Even its just an exhibition fight when we talk about the logan and mayweather

This is why there is no reading of winner nor judges in this exhibition fight. They arranged this fight merely for the purse that they can get.

But talking about Pacquiao vs Bradley fight, do you really think that they fix this match? Hard to fathom that Pacquiao will agree a fix match. Or was it about the judges? Because as far as I remember, even unofficial scorecards from various agencies were giving the fight to Pacquiao. But anyway, I believe that there are indeed fights that are fix. And we may never know about them til years later.

Also, just to add on this Pacquiao-Bradley fight -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manny_Pacquiao_vs._Timothy_Bradley

WBO review
After the decision the WBO ordered a video review of the bout. The five judges on the WBO's committee all scored the fight in Pacquiao's favor — 118–110, 117–111, 117–111, 116–112 and 115–113. However, the WBO cannot overturn the result of the fight.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

should this be a big win if we pick DRAW for the exhibition fights? sadly we can't see listing of them in crypto sport

That is obviously a yes, as there are many mayweather fights that looks like a fix fight to me especially for those not KOed fight and its an obvious one.

Even its just an exhibition fight when we talk about the logan and mayweather, also its too obvious, how can a youtuber can win against a pro boxer.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

he is now retired but he gave an example of a fight that he thinks was a fix fight particularly the match between Pacquiao vs Bradley

Not checking the link yet but that fight between Pacquiao and Bradley is controversial and Arum showing disappointment about the result is not seems generic. That's why it was suspected as a rigged fight in favor of Bradley.

I able to watch the PPV of the fight and it's no doubt that Bradley is playing more defense the whole match so even he is surprised with the result and no choice but to hug the reward and just accept the result.

After that, the issue is slowly forgotten and the talk about the match being a rigged match is now just a part of the history.

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Hahaha, amazing. Just this moment at 20:35 made me laugh so hard: "I wish I would've done more of it". It's really impressive how open Farrell is about it. Fight fixing is a serious illegal activity, one can be put in jail for that and be charged with a substantial fine.

I also found another interview from 2017 with him, it's not as informative as the new one, but I found it also quite entertaining.

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Apparently, match fixing is not something new even in the fight between Mayweather and Logan I have my doubts. It's something that you know but you ignore. That's how the mafia makes money even in cricket (a very popular sports among South Asians and British ) there is fixing at some level , not particularly international but club level. But who cares.
There are very less people who talk about such stuff openly, I would definitely watch it , + in most countries match fixing gives you a direct ticket to jail so be aware of the fraudulent people who might give you points on that and do not engage in such stuff.

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Mafias Most Wanted Fight Fixer - Charles Farrell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DIX9ZvDkFc

this is just an interview of this man named Charles Farrell whom he claimed to be a fight fixer. he is there to promote his book "low life" which is about this mob who arrange some fights which they bet and the boxer they'd be rooting has to win. so they'd be talking to the referee and the boxers secretly like thugs. interesting discussion actaully. and it's funny somehow.

he is now retired but he gave an example of a fight that he thinks was a fix fight particularly the match between Pacquiao vs Bradley and he says here that in the mind of Pacquiao was that everyone can see that I will win this fight so it's not going to hurt him. Manny will still be the best money maker after this loss. It does mean like Manny was also being arranged.

all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

should this be a big win if we pick DRAW for the exhibition fights? sadly we can't see listing of them in crypto sport

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