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Quote from: uneng on June 24, 2021, 02:51:42 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on June 23, 2021, 09:15:28 AM

I agree with you. I can believe in corruption and various undercover games of large corporations, but the mafia is a matter of days gone by. In a sense, the mafia lost the fight not only to the police, but also to large corporations that are interested in the competition being fair.

I think it depends on the influence the mafias have inside a niche of the industry. Maybe it still exists nowadays. If they are the main sponsors of a championship, for an example, there are serious chances they will use this influence to abuse the competition's legitimacy. And in fact there are lots of mafias around the world operating in different countries, under different leaderships. It's hard to know the range of influence each of these groups keep, also because people under their rule can't talk freely about the subject, especially athletes and those who work with them daily.

I am sure that the mafia, in its classical sense, has no influence in any even slightly serious area of the sports business. Everything belongs to large corporations, they are very similar to the mafia, but they operate in a legal field and any smaller crime has no chance against them.

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Quote from: harizen on June 24, 2021, 04:02:01 PM

It's more related to Michael Jordan's gambling habit which is no secret that during that time, he is addicted too much to gambling and finds ways to gamble alongside his basketball activity.

Michael Jordan had a serious gambling addiction and what we still do not know is that whether he placed a bet on the matches he played and it is not public yet but i am certain that he would have placed a bet on almost all of the matches he played.

There are other stars that were gambling addicts like Charles Barkley, Pete Rose and even Wayne Rooney and the question that bugs is that whether these players played differently because they placed a bet on the game and most certainly they did.

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I would not be surprised if there will be some big fights that are fixed considering how this has been going on for decades. On exhibition matches however, I don't think bookies will ever consider a "draw" line since some of matches really have a disparity in terms of experience, skill, and some other stats. Since this is just an exhibition match, the organizers would be fine to just turn it into a draw for most of the time and applaud the participants for showing up and giving a "great" fight.

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Really interesting story, I enjoy reading about the Mafia. It is probably the only criminal organisation where it is cool to be a member off. But how can you just go public and write about your book about the gold old days? Isn't it too dangerous? Always thought that the Mafia has a code of silence, and if you violate it than the Don will send his guys over for a visit. Also, I think you need to very secretive when fixing matches, because if it comes out you will be banned for life. If too many people know about the fixed match than the bookmaker will notice the proportional high number of winners and the bets might be cancelled.

There are a lot of Mafia whistleblowers who are still alive right now.

I agree with @harizen that the tragedy has nothing to do with Mafia though.

@bitterguy28 - I don't think that the Pacquiao vs Spence is going to be fixed or at least the Mafia will be involved on it.

And this sort of game fixing is really hard to see, unless the personalities involved really claim it to be.

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Quote from: livingfree on June 24, 2021, 02:07:20 PM

I thought that this is no longer existing so as he retires, it means that there are still ongoing operations with these fixed matches.

That won't end. The organization is so big and they can influence even the top individuals.

Quote from: livingfree on June 24, 2021, 02:07:20 PM

I remember the story of Michael Jordan when he's approached by a mafia to let the game lose but he declined, and then, a tragedy happened.

Based on "The Last Dance", that tragedy is not related to where Chicago Bulls should lose to a certain game.

It's more related to Michael Jordan's gambling habit which is no secret that during that time, he is addicted too much to gambling and finds ways to gamble alongside his basketball activity.

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Quote from: livingfree on June 24, 2021, 02:07:20 PM

I thought that this is no longer existing so as he retires, it means that there are still ongoing operations with these fixed matches. Well, the money is big and they can live happily by just sitting while watching their money comes to them with those matches that they fix.

Aside from fight fixing, I remember the story of Michael Jordan when he's approached by a mafia to let the game lose but he declined, and then, a tragedy happened.

Those are the things that this mafias can do, aside from offering huge amounts of money, they are also using kinds of things that players/fighters are unable to resist.

Those past headlines that includes MJ's father are really controversial, some might not been reported but it's really happening.

Those fixers and those mobs are circling around the gambling places waiting for the next target that will generates huge amounts
of money that will move anyone once they've start working on it.

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 23, 2021, 09:15:28 AM

Quote from: ene1980 on June 22, 2021, 05:48:12 PM

The Mafia might have had influence in the 1970 and 1980 to fix fights in the US but now it is impossible that the mafia could control anything by force, they might influence the judges by paying them well and usually these things will not come out in the public unless there is a serious heat to catch these manipulators.

I do not think Manny fight was fixed and nor does Mayweather and Logan Paul exhibition fight, these mafia takeover in sports is possible in Japan but not in the US.

I agree with you. I can believe in corruption and various undercover games of large corporations, but the mafia is a matter of days gone by. In a sense, the mafia lost the fight not only to the police, but also to large corporations that are interested in the competition being fair.

I think it depends on the influence the mafias have inside a niche of the industry. Maybe it still exists nowadays. If they are the main sponsors of a championship, for an example, there are serious chances they will use this influence to abuse the competition's legitimacy. And in fact there are lots of mafias around the world operating in different countries, under different leaderships. It's hard to know the range of influence each of these groups keep, also because people under their rule can't talk freely about the subject, especially athletes and those who work with them daily.

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I thought that this is no longer existing so as he retires, it means that there are still ongoing operations with these fixed matches. Well, the money is big and they can live happily by just sitting while watching their money comes to them with those matches that they fix.

Aside from fight fixing, I remember the story of Michael Jordan when he's approached by a mafia to let the game lose but he declined, and then, a tragedy happened.

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Quote from: just_Alice on June 19, 2021, 03:59:17 PM

Hahaha, amazing. Just this moment at 20:35 made me laugh so hard: "I wish I would've done more of it". It's really impressive how open Farrell is about it. Fight fixing is a serious illegal activity, one can be put in jail for that and be charged with a substantial fine.

I also found another interview from 2017 with him, it's not as informative as the new one, but I found it also quite entertaining.

This is common with criminals, most of them will eventually be caught and be on prison or worst but there is a small amount that will escape that fate through luck alone and then instead of actually being happy they were able to escape their fate they instead think that they should have committed even more crimes, fixing a boxing match is a crime almost everywhere and I do not know if he is going to escape the jail now that he is basically confessing about doing it.

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Mafia in a match in any sport is a concern so far, because for now it looks like the athletes involved are also doing well so it is not easy to uncover. There have been several cases of arrangements like this that were exposed quickly in the past because the athletes involved were not so professional in doing so that they were easily dismantled, but for athletes who are good at hiding cheating then of course cases like this must be destroyed because they damage the morale of the athletes themselves.

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Really interesting story, I enjoy reading about the Mafia. It is probably the only criminal organisation where it is cool to be a member off. But how can you just go public and write about your book about the gold old days? Isn't it too dangerous? Always thought that the Mafia has a code of silence, and if you violate it than the Don will send his guys over for a visit. Also, I think you need to very secretive when fixing matches, because if it comes out you will be banned for life. If too many people know about the fixed match than the bookmaker will notice the proportional high number of winners and the bets might be cancelled.

All Mafia stories are interesting! And when too many people know about the fixed match and they place a bet, be sure that Mafia took care and it will happen otherwise... people will lose, bookmakers (Mafia) will win!
I guess it's dangerous to reveal these things, but some people are brave enough to do it, probably for all sorts of reasons they can decide to share their story! In this interview, Charles Farrell looks very relaxing while he talks about his life, we can only guess that he covered himself somehow!

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Quote from: ene1980 on June 22, 2021, 05:48:12 PM

The Mafia might have had influence in the 1970 and 1980 to fix fights in the US but now it is impossible that the mafia could control anything by force, they might influence the judges by paying them well and usually these things will not come out in the public unless there is a serious heat to catch these manipulators.

I do not think Manny fight was fixed and nor does Mayweather and Logan Paul exhibition fight, these mafia takeover in sports is possible in Japan but not in the US.

I agree with you. I can believe in corruption and various undercover games of large corporations, but the mafia is a matter of days gone by. In a sense, the mafia lost the fight not only to the police, but also to large corporations that are interested in the competition being fair.

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Quote from: ene1980 on June 22, 2021, 05:48:12 PM

Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

~all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

The Mafia might have had influence in the 1970 and 1980 to fix fights in the US but now it is impossible that the mafia could control anything by force, they might influence the judges by paying them well and usually these things will not come out in the public unless there is a serious heat to catch these manipulators.

I do not think Manny fight was fixed and nor does Mayweather and Logan Paul exhibition fight, these mafia takeover in sports is possible in Japan but not in the US.

lots of mobs during those times from rich jews, russians, italians, cubans, irish but the chinese i think still are still active. somehow from the business news i've read they own part of hollywood businesses. when there is money to make, mobs are somehow there in the background.

that farell guy must have only tried fixing in boxing sports. but he also mentioned in the interview about the horse race which he said theres also fixing in that sport.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

~all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

The Mafia might have had influence in the 1970 and 1980 to fix fights in the US but now it is impossible that the mafia could control anything by force, they might influence the judges by paying them well and usually these things will not come out in the public unless there is a serious heat to catch these manipulators.

I do not think Manny fight was fixed and nor does Mayweather and Logan Paul exhibition fight, these mafia takeover in sports is possible in Japan but not in the US.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

he is now retired but he gave an example of a fight that he thinks was a fix fight particularly the match between Pacquiao vs Bradley and he says here that in the mind of Pacquiao was that everyone can see that I will win this fight so it's not going to hurt him. Manny will still be the best money maker after this loss. It does mean like Manny was also being arranged.

Pacquiao being robbed by judges parallels GGG being robbed vs Canelo, twice.

Manny Pacquiao stopped fighting in Las Vegas for years after his controversial loss to Bradley and controversial coverage of his fight vs Floyd. Which seems like silent protest on his part towards how he was treated.

Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting.

The way Logan Paul unloaded everything he had on Floyd in round 1 says it wasn't a fixed fight.

Floyd didn't hold back, either. Logan Paul's 40 pound weight advantage on Floyd helped him survive. He denied Floyd the chance for a finish with the constant holding and clinching.

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Quote from: bitterguy28 on June 22, 2021, 06:46:01 AM

What about the Pacquiao vs Spencer fight this August? will this be involving Mafia also? sorry I'm curious if that person is a legit part of mafia then He'll be on this one also.

That question can't be answered now. There is no way a match can be determined if it will be influenced by the Mafia or not.

And even how legit that person, do you really think that he will give a statement for an upcoming match?

If there are obvious flaws in that upcoming match, we can all see it. Let's wait for that day.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

this is just an interview of this man named Charles Farrell whom he claimed to be a fight fixer. he is there to promote his book "low life" which is about this mob who arrange some fights which they bet and the boxer they'd be rooting has to win. so they'd be talking to the referee and the boxers secretly like thugs. interesting discussion actaully. and it's funny somehow.

He is so brave to expose these anomalies, maybe he is not afraid anymore because he already has a lot of money to protect himself from the mobs and from authorities that he will expose, but it's a risky move, or the authorities might take him as a joke because of his reputation, either way, he just proves that the world of sports are open to manipulation and authorities can only do little to stop it.

No longer secret for sure, but most of the time there's no evidence even the fight are obviously being rigged, not related to any fight but last few months ago there's a basketball league which been investigated due to game fixing, those players that involved get their sanctions,.

If there's really solid proof that those fight his claiming that being rigged by mobs he can get drag on it , though since those things happened before and there none who can prove anything, this kind of statement will simply ignored and passed by.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on June 22, 2021, 06:08:00 AM

I think it really happens most of the time but aren't these are all just conspiracy theories from him? Good thing he wasn't sued for this from the things he did? I guess there will be people out there watching this was truly upset especially those matches that mentioned here.

I think the side that was mentioned by him doesn't want to bother although, I find it kind of a defamation lawsuit is appropriate for this one since he tries to say that the fights are fixed but I guess they don't want to do anything with it because they might be hiding something besides that.

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Match fixing by the high level bookies is not new to the market and it is becoming one of the main profits generating illegal activity in many games like cricket, fighting,racing as you can easily trick the people with some twists and keep them interested till the last moment.You turn out the coins for which high bets have been made and people think that it was just their bad day.He has exposed some dark secrets through this and hope everybody learn some things to keep in mind later on.As said by others also I am interested who will be winning the upcoming fight between Logan Paul and Mayweather which is one of the most hyped fight this time.Maybe match fixers already knows who's gonna win.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

Mafias Most Wanted Fight Fixer - Charles Farrell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DIX9ZvDkFc

he is now retired but he gave an example of a fight that he thinks was a fix fight particularly the match between Pacquiao vs Bradley and he says here that in the mind of Pacquiao was that everyone can see that I will win this fight so it's not going to hurt him. Manny will still be the best money maker after this loss. It does mean like Manny was also being arranged.

What about the Pacquiao vs Spencer fight this August? will this be involving Mafia also? sorry I'm curious if that person is a legit part of mafia then He'll be on this one also.

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