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June 22, 2021, 07:08:00 AM
#37
I think it really happens most of the time but aren't these are all just conspiracy theories from him? Good thing he wasn't sued for this from the things he did? I guess there will be people out there watching this was truly upset especially those matches that mentioned here.
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June 22, 2021, 05:36:33 AM
#36


this is just an interview of this man named Charles Farrell whom he claimed to be a fight fixer. he is there to promote his book "low life" which is about this mob who arrange some fights which they bet and the boxer they'd be rooting has to win. so they'd be talking to the referee and the boxers secretly like thugs. interesting discussion actaully. and it's funny somehow.




He is so brave to expose these anomalies, maybe he is not afraid anymore because he already has a lot of money to protect himself from the mobs and from authorities that he will expose, but it's a risky move, or the authorities might take him as a joke because of his reputation, either way, he just proves that the world of sports are open to manipulation and authorities can only do little to stop it.  
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June 22, 2021, 03:33:16 AM
#35
this guy has the guts to public his name and sell his books despite of what he did because what he did was a crime and its illegal .
 isnt he scared that police will hunt him but for the boxers and referee its hard to say no because number 1 , there must be a big money offered to them and number 2 if they refused to this , their life would be in great danger .


sometimes it's just the two fighters who fix themselves according to him somewhat in this part. i couldn't imagine how the discussion will go. it's illegal but there is no one there to prosecute because basically, the fight is real.

a well-known Chinese politician for example who has the connection known for goons sits in the corner of a fighter. the goons probably had already paid each fighter a visit before the fight. they all will just put a show because someone is going to be in distress if the fight doesn't end the way they want it. most of the time these politicians and popular individuals stay close to the money maker/crowd's favorite fighter too.
popular individual  that sits beside the fighter makes the match real ? but if its fixed its fixed .  real match are only the match that was not fixed . fixed matches will look real if the watcher dont have an idea that the match was fixed .
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June 22, 2021, 12:01:34 AM
#34
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I am not saying it isn't real. But how do you know that it is real? If we are not to conclude that something does not exist because it is not openly revealed or is beyond the knowledge of anybody, then how do we know that it is real?
What do you mean by imagination and conspiracy theory though? I would say that you pretty much said that it isn't real. I do know that it is real because there are cases that people got caught fixing matches and racketeering, that's the reason why I know it's real.

It is self explanatory. Like I said, the mentioning of Pacquiao-Bradley and Mayweather-Logan, for example, as Mafia-fixed matches are true only insofar as our imagination and speculations are concerned. Do we have anything to put on the table as hard and undeniable proofs that both matches are indeed arranged according to the preference of the Mafia? Nothing. We have nothing. We can only offer our suspicions and conspiracy theories.

I also know match fixing is real based on what you've said. But outside of those, baseless rumors of Mafia-fixed matches are cheap talks.
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June 21, 2021, 11:23:35 PM
#33
all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting.

That is different if we compare it to Pacquiao vs Bradley fight which is a title match. On that exhibition match between Mayweather and Logan Paul, there's no need for any Mafia's presence just to fixed and rigged that match. Both parties surely have an agreement prior to the fight.

should this be a big win if we pick DRAW for the exhibition fights? sadly we can't see listing of them in crypto sport

I don't see it that way. I'm expecting the odds of DRAW in the future exhibition match involving Mayweather won't be that attractive.

Odds provider knows that already so they are sure to make adjustments. And besides, official rules of the said match are surely released before they will release an odds.

would you say the mafia is present if it was Mayweather who won against Logan?  to me and most probably the rest who watched the fight could say Floyd got it.

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June 21, 2021, 10:56:57 PM
#32
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I am not saying it isn't real. But how do you know that it is real? If we are not to conclude that something does not exist because it is not openly revealed or is beyond the knowledge of anybody, then how do we know that it is real?
What do you mean by imagination and conspiracy theory though? I would say that you pretty much said that it isn't real. I do know that it is real because there are cases that people got caught fixing matches and racketeering, that's the reason why I know it's real.
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June 21, 2021, 10:23:39 PM
#31
Also, Mafia-arranged games are mostly just imaginations and conspiracy theories. It is either there is a clear evidence and legal conviction of the perpetrators or everything is purely just speculations.
I don't think so, there are some reported cases of these events and they aren't just public knowledge because the fighters involved just wants to keep it under wraps because they have a reputation to uphold. Just because you don't know anything or you don't know it exists doesn't mean that it isn't real.

I am not saying it isn't real. But how do you know that it is real? If we are not to conclude that something does not exist because it is not openly revealed or is beyond the knowledge of anybody, then how do we know that it is real?

For example, OP mentions Pacquiao-Bradley and Mayweather-Logan fights. Are they really arranged fights? Does Mafia have a hand in the results of these two fights? What do we know of it? What do we have to prove that these matches are indeed fixed by the Mafia?

I'm saying that without clear evidences, legal decisions on such cases, proven testimonies, and so on, these talks are all speculations.
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June 21, 2021, 06:37:18 PM
#30
The thing I don't get is why is he doing that anyway? What's the point?

He will sell his book about his experience in a fixed match. A good exposure indeed to promote his product Smiley

“(Low)life: A Memoir of Jazz, Fight-Fixing, and The Mob”

You can check here: https://amzn.to/3weP2e1 - Costing at $27 with 312 pages. The release will be on June 29, 2021.
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June 21, 2021, 06:30:53 PM
#29
This news is not new anymore because I've seen a lot of fight that is so unbelievably rigged. Even in other sports it do exist not just in boxing and I find it too dirty since it's like manipulating the people's money. They might be changing odds here if they want so that people would bet on the highest odds yet they will bet on the losing one because they already know the fight is fixed. I don't like this though because it seems that everyone who got involved could just easily run away after they were getting paid e.g. judges or the referee.
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June 21, 2021, 06:25:09 PM
#28
all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

should this be a big win if we pick DRAW for the exhibition fights? sadly we can't see listing of them in crypto sport
You really think Floyd Mayweather needs dirty money from mafia?  Huh This guy doesn't need to take risks of ruining his reputation for some dollars, he certainly doesn't even need the money of the fight against Logan Paul. He did it just for the fun. Mayweather doesn't live in a third world country like Pacquiao so there is no need for him to deal with mafia to be able to practice his sport and to earn money.

And BTW, no his fight against Logan Paul didn't end in a draw, if there were judges, Mayweather would have won by unanimous decision.
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June 21, 2021, 06:13:28 PM
#27
Why does this topic or news comes out even before the incoming fight of Manny pacquiao ? is this some kind of advertising ?

and is He dying that's why he is making his last statements ? i know how Mafia moves and surely they will kill Him from exposing this if it is true.
He obviously has made some arrangements and has everything covered, he said it himself. The thing I don't get is why is he doing that anyway? What's the point? Even having everything covered doesn't quite guarantee your safety because..well because it's mafia. Is it just to become popular, and, if so, is it really worth it?
Or maybe he's just making this up because without exposure of some more detailed info there's no guarantee he's telling the truth.
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June 21, 2021, 04:38:22 PM
#26
all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting.

That is different if we compare it to Pacquiao vs Bradley fight which is a title match. On that exhibition match between Mayweather and Logan Paul, there's no need for any Mafia's presence just to fixed and rigged that match. Both parties surely have an agreement prior to the fight.

should this be a big win if we pick DRAW for the exhibition fights? sadly we can't see listing of them in crypto sport

I don't see it that way. I'm expecting the odds of DRAW in the future exhibition match involving Mayweather won't be that attractive.

Odds provider knows that already so they are sure to make adjustments. And besides, official rules of the said match are surely released before they will release an odds.
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June 21, 2021, 03:52:49 AM
#25
~ we need to put an end to this kind of misbehavior of manipulating games, Is bad and cruel to profit from that sort of thing. imagine someone spending time doing game analysis and spending money to find out that the game was manipulated in the end, this destroys the person who lost bet and money

Firstly, we can never completely get rid of manipulations in sports, as it is a hidden business, and secondly, when participating in betting a person must be aware of the risks and the money he can lose. It is always necessary to take into account that any match can become a sham.
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June 21, 2021, 03:07:31 AM
#24
this guy has the guts to public his name and sell his books despite of what he did because what he did was a crime and its illegal .
 isnt he scared that police will hunt him but for the boxers and referee its hard to say no because number 1 , there must be a big money offered to them and number 2 if they refused to this , their life would be in great danger .


sometimes it's just the two fighters who fix themselves according to him somewhat in this part. i couldn't imagine how the discussion will go. it's illegal but there is no one there to prosecute because basically, the fight is real.

a well-known Chinese politician for example who has the connection known for goons sits in the corner of a fighter. the goons probably had already paid each fighter a visit before the fight. they all will just put a show because someone is going to be in distress if the fight doesn't end the way they want it. most of the time these politicians and popular individuals stay close to the money maker/crowd's favorite fighter too.
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June 21, 2021, 12:44:50 AM
#23
 this guy has the guts to public his name and sell his books despite of what he did because what he did was a crime and its illegal .
 isnt he scared that police will hunt him but for the boxers and referee its hard to say no because number 1 , there must be a big money offered to them and number 2 if they refused to this , their life would be in great danger .
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June 21, 2021, 12:16:37 AM
#22
Fixed or not, it really doesn't matter to be honest because in the end, they got what they need which is people watching the fight which is enough for them plus organized crime in 21st century is not that active anymore and the law enforcement agency will probably catch up to them.

Also, Mafia-arranged games are mostly just imaginations and conspiracy theories. It is either there is a clear evidence and legal conviction of the perpetrators or everything is purely just speculations.
I don't think so, there are some reported cases of these events and they aren't just public knowledge because the fighters involved just wants to keep it under wraps because they have a reputation to uphold. Just because you don't know anything or you don't know it exists doesn't mean that it isn't real.
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June 20, 2021, 11:54:02 PM
#21
Why does this topic or news comes out even before the incoming fight of Manny pacquiao ? is this some kind of advertising ?

Nope, I don't think this is a form of advertising. This has nothing to do with the upcoming fight of Manny Pacquiao against Errol Spence Jr. The Pacquiao-Bradley fight was only made as an example by the OP probably because it was a fight that seemed to heavily favor Pacquiao in the eyes of many spectators, both ordinary boxing fans and sports commentators and boxing analysts. But it was given to Bradley. It was a rub out. That is why speculations were rising that the Mafia was involved.
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June 20, 2021, 11:15:47 PM
#20
Why does this topic or news comes out even before the incoming fight of Manny pacquiao ? is this some kind of advertising ?

and is He dying that's why he is making his last statements ? i know how Mafia moves and surely they will kill Him from exposing this if it is true.
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June 20, 2021, 10:53:56 PM
#19
should this be a big win if we pick DRAW for the exhibition fights? sadly we can't see listing of them in crypto sport

I don't even make bets on exhibition fights. I am not that interested in them. I think it is not worth gambling. The stake between fighters are very low. They are mostly doing their thing for the sake of entertainment or mainly for money. So if the fight has also professional judges giving the official decision as to who wins and who loses, they will probably score it in a way not as serious as judging a professional match.

Also, Mafia-arranged games are mostly just imaginations and conspiracy theories. It is either there is a clear evidence and legal conviction of the perpetrators or everything is purely just speculations.
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June 20, 2021, 10:24:47 PM
#18

It may well be the case that this Farrell guy isn't legit, though. I highly doubt that actual high profile fight-fixers would willingly expose themselves due to potential trouble with law enforcement and retaliation from the underworld who lost money on bets, but they are certainly out there.

If it is about all book that he is promoting and to make money out of it, it's not even worth it, he will be in trouble all his life, from the authorities from organizations and from the syndicate, he is limiting himself for this and he will be targeted for liquidation at worse, there are many rumors about mafia involvement but no one's coming out to expose this, until this one, hope he has all the means to protect himself.

you just said it yourself no one coming out because authorities, not just the mafia members will soon come after this whistleblower. they protect each other much like how bike gang members protect each other.

we just see them in movies these days. if you watch the full video he actually said he was in hiding from this sports mafia and in the interview he also said he isn't naming anyone. of course, can' verify these to be true. chances are that he goes out now because the old folks he once associated with are dead.

for someone old as this guy, i'm not sure if he will still lie. probably just need legacy.
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